• Roger Mills

    What a load of nonsense. There is no war on “religion”. The Right is all about hyperbole (look it up) and creating controversy where none exists. Nice racist allusion too with the “no riots” comment too.

    • Wyndle

      Guess you have been asleep for 20 years or totally Brain dead

      • Roger Mills

        Brilliant retort Wyndle. Speaks directly to your intellect. Keep up the good work as silly personal insults are sure way to discuss issues and learn something for your efforts.

        • DR

          I’ll chime in with some intellect… Equality isn’t awareness of how ones race treats another insomuch where the minority race has privilege and freedom to take away from the truths and facts of the majority race. No person, especially the minority, has rights privileges or moral support to tear down the foundations of absolute truth that exist because of a supreme being, even a God who says so; just because they view things differently or object. They have the right to be objective, they have the free agency to chose; win or lose. Yet they do not have to be accepted, supported or even permitted to tear down the very truth that has been established thousands of years ago; regardless, if you believe or not. Regardless, if you have not faith or wish not to follow, that does not permit any person to cause contention, hate or anger. The prime minister from Israel said it best with his enemies, “If they put down their weapons we will have peace, if we put down our weapons we will be destroyed.” I ask, who’s God should we follow then? Should we follow the God of the enemies of Israel or should we follow the God of peace? Even the God of the Egyptians during the time of Moses did not have the power to keep the Israelite s captive. That God that saved those slaves was the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, even those prophets who prophesied of the coming of Jesus Christ, born in Bethlehem. There is no hate or discrimination in claiming to the world Jesus was a Jew, a carpenter and a Man with skin color that was tan and not of a color we call today “Black” today; this is fact, absolute truth, not to discriminate or hurt or to tear down of ones culture, but to rejoice in truth and knowledge that we know he lives, and he died for all Gods children.
          Most important item to take away from this is…only those who seek attention in the name other than Jesus the Christ, seek out to destroy his truth and cause contention. “Anyone who is an advocate of contention is of the devil!” There is good and evil,there is right and wrong and there are those who wish to cause peace, love and harmony with their rejoicing and proclamation, and then there are those who wish to stir the hearts of men to anger, contention and confusion. “Those people are not of Me” sayeth the Lord of Host, even the Savior of the World.
          Since the restoration of the true gospel of Jesus Christ occurred, even by his chosen prophet in 1830, all truth has been restored and all men have been called to repentance and asked to “Come unto him.” Since this restoration of the true gospel of Jesus Christ, even true Christianity, has permitted only; peace, love, service and harmony turning the other cheek. With that said, his kingdom is upon the earth today and will be here until he comes again.
          You’re either on board or you’re not, the freedom to choose is yours, with no taking off of your head or riots to cause contention if you disagree, not even a film to stir the hearts of men to anger one with another. Since the restored gospel of Jesus Christ, his true word walks the earth and we can use his perfect example to follow and put down the sword in our mouth and in our hand.
          If and when I see any person speak or claim those things I just spoke of, then will I know them for their fruit is sweet and good for the soul and provideth nutrients to the spirit and love to the heart which conquers all contention, confusion, fear or doubt.

          • Marilyn5555

            I was flipping through channels early this morning, and happened on “Black Jesus”……it’s PURE TRASH. And there’s NO WAY….you’re ever going to convince me that were Jesus walking in the physical body right now, that he’d be using the “F” word. PLEEEEASE!

          • Roger Mills

            Actually he would have used a Hebrew term for the same … HA! Every carpenters yelled that once in a while. Damn hammers.

          • Marilyn5555

            Are people like you born an ASS? Or do you have to go to school for that?

          • Uzoozy

            The prime minister of Israel words are just hollow and hypocritical and full of hate.

          • disqus_pNhkHlXhCQ

            God loves you Uzoozy. He is reaching out to you through Christians who would love to see you accept him as your Savior. Don’t keep putting people down, it gets you no where, just reach out to Christ. His gift is free if you accept it.

          • Roger Mills

            God doesn’t love or hate or have any thoughts about your choice of clothing for the day. God never reaches out. Only people who so desperately WISH there was a “heavenly father or mother” to care for them, a savior in other words, because the darkness behind the campfire is scary.

          • RobertNorwood

            “God never reaches out”. Actually God does, but what would you know as one who purports a knowledge of God.

            “darkness behind the campfire is scary”. Jeezus, couldn’t come up with a better metaphor?

          • RobertNorwood

            Uzoozy might be a muslim – he could get his head cut off for that. Well, we all could if muslims got their way.

          • RobertNorwood

            Huh, wha…how’d the Prime Minister of Israel get dragged into this? Oh, that little sentence back there – which happens to be true. Here’s mine, when all muslims are gone we will have peace.

          • Uzoozy

            There was no show of any intellectual matter at all.

          • DR

            Same said those who had Jesus Christ killed. You may want to consider what weight your intellect carries, especially when the Savior extends his hand to you out of great love when your in the worst state known to man.

          • Roger Mills

            Darn those Jews and yes, be afraid, very afraid that “god” is going to send you to hell for eternity. HA! Of all the gods to chose, the Christian one seems a silly choice. You will die. I will die, and the cosmos rolls on as our molecules just float around until the next opportunity to coalesce into some other form, and make up religions. I’d prefer to be an eagle but god never really grants any wishes.

          • RobertNorwood

            Wow, where does one get all this knowledge?

          • Roger Mills

            Actually read your whole diatribe. I shake my head and laugh. Your religious fantasies are entertaining but so is HBO. Intellect is not part of this discussion, it’s all about “belief” and the nonsense it spawns. There’s no god, but there are lots of great stories made up by man to calm his fears. When you are talking with people who believe “god” wrote the bible, it’s a Star Trek episode. It’s no more real than that. And nothing gets “believers” more riled up than to question their myths and fantasies, then get bombarded with bible quotes. No discussion of the reality of this world, no discussion about why a “god” would be so “man-like” except for the “snake eating itself” explanation of “well, he created man in his own image” nonsense. Most religious people have no clue about the “other” religions and just parrot the beliefs from their historical/ geographical/social position. Eskimos believe in snow, jungle natives believe in the biggest carnivore in their world. No “god” has ever shown up. Just stories of such nonsense. When you invest so heavily in “belief” that when something new, something game changing shows up … you refuse to see as it threatens your “world” No Jesus. No Allah, No Buddha (and actually he’s not a god, but few people understand that philosophy in this group) , no god living on a Mormon planet. It’s just all …. wait for this …. made up. Now go stamp your feet.

          • DR

            I spoke to a Muslim man once teaching him about Jesus Christ, I asked him. ” Suppose as we sit here together a bright light appears, and two images appear that depict all that we speak of concerning God and his power and glory. And the one standing on the right says, “behold this is my beloved son, hear him” pointing to the other, what would you think about Jesus being not only real but the son of God?” The Muslim man said he would think he was seeing Satan, even a state of delusion or being possessed. So, with this experience I learned at a young age that preconceived thoughts or feelings about “What could be real or what could be true is only a demonstration of the extent of ones faith, testimony, belief combined with knowledge and wisdom at that time in their life.” Not taking into consideration that the appearance of God standing before you is a form of education where one will feel of his love, his power and his wisdom. Because one lacks faith and is even brain washed by the society or culture they were brought up in they would of course have a preconceived notion, thought or belief other than to not believe or except, especially from the Muslim faith where Free Agency is not sustained by that man made religion. I also learned that day, patience and tolerance for ignorance to those who do not exercise faith nor have any understanding of absolute truth.

            See, Roger… Until you exercise your faith, even attempt to believe and live your life in a manner that would follow the perfect example of Jesus Christs life you will never understand absolute truth for your eyes have not been opened. I cannot discuss with you things that the heavens reveal to me because of the faith I have exercised. Nor do I condemn thee, however, call thee to repentance insomuch that you seek out the Love and Power of God to the degree where you can know all things with surety. See, I know God not only exist, but that he is our father in heaven, who loves us more than we can comprehend. God is not only real but he established a plan for all of us to be just like him and live with him, again.

            Now, so that you can digest some truth, please comprehend the reality that the Bible is not only the word of God, but without the Bible you would not exist. Stay with me on this… this is something you haven’t heard before. See, your mere existence, the fact that you come from a lineage of people, a race and ethnic or labeled cultural background, which you accept and live by, is all the evidence man needs to know there is a God. For as you believe in those things that are factual to your ancestor upbringing/heritage so too you must believe in the Bible. For the only reason you believe you are a human being is because it is written in the Bible, yes Written only by men who were inspired and communicated with God, who is in the image of man. So Roger, unless you defer to stating you are not a human, than you do believe in God. ON that note, you also believe and understand and perhaps even use the concept of Sacrifice. This term and word cannot be performed by any human with out the belief in it’s purpose and foundation that came from God commanding Adam to offer Sacrifice. No man or culture came up with the term and motion of Sacrifice, yet all men believe in it and value the term and it’s benefits when performed.

            In conclusion, you may start to recognize your hypocrisy in living by terminology or concepts only taught first by the word of God in the Bible (And other True Scriptures). I will leave you with these two examples: Your heritage or mere existence as a human and the practice and meaning of Sacrifice.

            Now, at this time you may want to consider how much you do that testifies that there is a God. See you follow God already, you just lack faith in him. You know God is real, but to accept him means you have to follow him, and to follow him means you have to obey his word. All men know the importance of following truth once found, so it’s easier for you to denounce truth so you don’t have to follow it. No worries though, with repentance, and asking God for help in your transition to follow him make sure you ask him to not give you more than you can handle, but to help you learn line upon line and precept upon precept, just as a little child learns. This is how you can show humility and develop into a faithful man who not only will know God but with help others to build their faith, which is the greatest joy any person can ever receive while on earth. That’s another discussion about why the human being obtains more joy than anything material or any other accomplishment received or reached. We are chemically developed and created in a way that the greatest joy our emotions can grasp onto is the joy of helping others, even LOVE for one another.

          • kcruzette7

            Good response and big answer….

        • Wayne Cook

          LOL…no it speaks directly to the level of arrogance you hold. As you are unable to respond intellectually yourself, you crease the border of slander, in order to obfuscate your own….well, 20 year sleep. Go back to sleep.

        • kcruzette7

          I agree with you Wyndle – Another liberal illiterate. I like the way he slams your view as nonsense and hyperboles…then comes back about ways to discuss issues…
          Did he just create controversy with his remark ..that controversies don’t exist. Hmmm sounds like he has a controversy with this issue.

        • RobertNorwood

          Don’t get snippy Roger. Wyndle merely lowered himself to your level for your benefit. It’s not always easy getting through to a ten year old.

      • Evermyrtle

        You are right but, you know the WORD OF GOD tells us that the world will be at a very point in the last days, described just as are the present days, where there is to be no respect of decency or GODLINESS. By what is being pushed we can be sure that we are in the last days of the existence of the universe. There ar millionsof peopl who will be very surprised with the return of JESUS CHRIST for HIS people. By that time there will be no time to change.

        Matthew 24:21 For there shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be

        Mark 13:13 And you shall be hated of all men for my name ‘s sake, but he that shall endue unto the end, the same shall be saved.

        • Roger Mills

          Roger 1:1 It’s all made up. Just like every culture before us. However the Egyptians had some very cool gods.

          • RobertNorwood

            Personally I think their notion of a Ba and a Ka may have some merit. And no, before anyone asks, I don’t think it smacks of dualism at all. You should spend some time learning about religion rather than running it down. As a science guy I believe there’s a lot there but that would all be way beyond your comprehension.

      • RobertNorwood

        He’s a liberal which automatically puts him in a class with people like Susan “it was a video” Rice. Useful idiot, willing stooge – samo samo G.I.

      • Roger Mills

        Oh ouch…. that’s some really cutting response … only one CAP? What’s wrong with you? You own a gun don’t you? Believe in Jesus? Now get down to the Texas border and save us from those brown children.

    • Cynic

      Oh, so you’ve come here to troll.

      Arguing with a troll is such a waste of time.

      • Akmed Bernie Madoff IV

        You get the feeling these Old Timer
        leftists are on some serious meds!
        You know all of them are really
        hideous insignificant human beings.
        NIHILISTIC MORONS WHO COME
        TO MAKE POINTS ONLY APPARENT
        TO THEMSELVES OF COURSE.
        LOL

        • disqus_pNhkHlXhCQ

          I wouldn’t call them that. I just think they know not what they do because they believe the devils lies. Jesus said of the ones who spit on him and beat him and tore his beard skin and all and who laughed at him and played dice for his clothing at the foot of the cross, “Forgive them Father for they know not what they do.”

          • Roger Mills

            Made up story. Like the characters though. Oh yeah, and that “devil” guy, what a troll. Sounds like Jesus forgot he was god when the bullies picked on him. Bad bullies. Same story on cable all the time.
            Quick, pull the blanket over your eyes and hide. By the way, while you’re talking to God, ask why all the horrible pain and suffering bestowed on children around the world. Sounds like your God” a bit of a bully himself.

        • Roger Mills

          Ooooo…. I’m so mad I’m going to write in CAPS! That’ll show them. Nice Christian words Akmed. By the way, to actually be a “nihilist” one would probably require a little more smarts than what a “moron” is and that is a sad thing that nature has perpetrated upon some. Get your CAPS out.

      • Roger Mills

        Cynic eh? Quite a title to give oneself. Leaves little to consider but doubt is healthy.

    • sturgis

      No war on religion! Your head must be up barry soetoro’s ass.

      • Marilyn5555

        He’s got his head up someone’s ass. Guess all the kids in high school and college who are told not to wear clothing that depicts a scripture or religious icon…that’s not an attack? They’re told not to speak of their religion or pass out any pamphlets….that’s not an attack? Military members told to not even READ a Bible or religious books in front of others…..that’s not an attack?

        • Uzoozy

          Because the military personnel are not allowed to read their own Holy book.

          • disqus_pNhkHlXhCQ

            but if there are any muslims in the service, you can absolutely bet that they have their time of prayer or anything else they want to do. The president makes sure of that. Our country is going down the tubes because we are allowing for him to be taken out of everything.

          • Roger Mills

            “tubes” ?? That was George W. Bush’s description of the internet. There is no tube to go down. HA! Muslims, Jews, Jesus people… dumb doesn’t discriminate. I’m a vet and never met as many idiots as I did in the military. We should have a draft again so it’s not all people who see military service as the only option. A paycheck followed by government dole. Smart people don’t do military, except those who just have to have a uniform and gun. Go figure.

        • Roger Mills

          Hardly an attack. It’s a request to keep your religion to yourself, as did the founding fathers of this nation

          • Marilyn5555

            It’s one of the RIGHTS the founding fathers provided me with. soooooo STHU

        • Roger Mills

          Your info is suspect. “PUT THAT BIBLE DOWN Private! We’re here to kill people, not save them” Often heard in military groups. Pretty sure you’re not a vet, or unless the cat avatar is a vocational thing.

          • Marilyn5555

            It’s suspect to YOU. I don’t value the opinions of people I have ZERO respect for. And whether I’m a vet doesn’t pertain to anything here, and is certainly NONE of your business.

      • Roger Mills

        Uh Stugis … I’ll try and use small words for you. War is what’s happening in the Middle East where that “war” has been going on for a millennium. It’s tribal war period. Please notice that I’ve not made crude suggestions as to where your head is. However the smell is an indicator.

        • sturgis

          what ever shit head

    • QuisPercusit

      You evidently have been taking too many naps under the GEICO Billboard in your neighborhood.
      Islam hates Hebrews (Jews), Islam hates Christians, Blacks hate whites, Hispanics hate whites, Yet Jesus loves us all.. ESAD liberal turd burper.

      • Uzoozy

        Jesus was a great messenger of God NOT an incarnate son of God Noah, Moses Abraham were prophets so was Jesus noting extra ordinary.

        • QuisPercusit

          Every one is entitled to their opinion. Yours happensbe made of prejudicial ignorance.

          • Uzoozy

            Just stating facts I have studied bible every week .very disappointing book full of porno killing,hate and bigotry.
            Read Gods book like billions do.

        • kcruzette7

          Jesus was not only a messenger He was and still is the Son of God. And because He is the Son of God, the only one qualified to give himself as a sacrifice for mankind’s sins. Of course, only those who believe that and can accept that will inherit the Kingdom of Heaven. Regardless of what man does, trying to downplay who Jesus is and expressing that another is just as qualified; Jesus is the only Son that God qualified to be that sacrifice, thus our Savior. You can compromise, hedge and theorize anyway you like, …it doesn’t make it the truth.

          • Uzoozy

            When God says be and it happens. Then when would he need a helper,makes no sense. Christians have faith and will believe in anything in the manwritten bookBible.
            Jesus was the higest prophet that had come to earth is not demeaning him.
            Jesus was made god in Nicia in 325 . The only Saviour is God and will remain that way. He does need a son or helper.
            May the Lord Show you the correct way. Thou shall not pray to anyone other than God.

          • kcruzette7

            As the Commandments teach us, “Thou shalt have no other Gods before me.” Thou shalt love the Lord your God, with all your heart, with all your soul and with all your might. The Bible was written by men inspired by the Holy Spirit. I asked you earlier, who did God reveal the message of the Quran to, how did He do it and who scribed it?

          • Uzoozy

            God revealed the words of the Quran thru angel Gabriel to Prophet Mohammed , who memorized it and then passed the revelation to his wife and followers.
            The entire Quran was revealed in 23 years, in pieces and as per the requirements .
            The prophets words were then written down and eventually formed into one volume.
            Hope I have passed you the information you need.
            God bless

          • kcruzette7

            Did the angel speak the Quran to Prophet Mohammed? How much time did he spend with Gabriel? After Prophet Mohammed memorized the Quran he shared it with his wife and followers. Who wrote it down? Gabriel is one of God’s angels mentioned in the Bible. Where did one get the name of Gabriel if the bible is written by man and not true. You acknowledge therefore that Gabriel is an angel. But how can you do that when you state the bible is written by man and full of falsities.

          • Uzoozy

            Thank you for your thoughts.
            As far as I am concerned the three religions came from One God, There are common guidance in the big three.
            As time went by people edited the books to suit their needs.
            The Gospels are supposed to be dictated by God, however they were amended.
            I try and seek the truth, in my belief there is one God no one else attached.
            All the best.

          • kcruzette7

            You say Christians have faith and believe in a man written book..
            The same is said about you..You have faith and believe in the Quran. You believe the Quran is the Word of God; but obviously man had to write it. As I asked you before, in what way did God reveal the message of the Quran and who scribed it?

          • Roger Mills

            Truth. Pretty sure that’s not part of this discussion. I do love the inherit the “kingdom” thing. So 12th century. I thought this country was about not having kings or kingdoms. Makes me thinks these might be mercenaries working on behalf of Satan (who was French and actually in cahoots with the English throne.) That would be in the bible if it were updated.

          • kcruzette7

            Roger you’re a riot…!

        • disqus_pNhkHlXhCQ

          Oh Dear Uzoozy, please go to God and ask for forgiveness and truth.

          • Uzoozy

            I have already found what I need, I ask God for forgiveness snd mercy for everyone.

          • Roger Mills

            I was in Salt Lake City and spoke with him. He’s not happy.

        • Roger Mills

          Love this deeper discussion of ancient myth. Hey, let’s all practice the same level of medicine and science as when this stuff was written.

        • kcruzette7

          Who taught you that Jesus was not incarnate of God, in other words, not the Son of God?

      • Roger Mills

        WWJD? Pretty sure he’d not call someone a “turd”. Now just which “Jesus” are you referring to? The Catholic? Mormon? Fundamentalist? So many, it’s hard to know which one’s talking.

    • Frederick Fargher

      Wake up & smell the camel dung, Mills! There IS a war on religion, especially Christianity & Judaism!! In this country & around the world, but especially in the Middle East!!! Christians are being slaughtered by the hundreds of thousands in the Middle East, even women & little children!!! Either your head is buried in the sand or you choose to remain ignorant! The only war on religion that is should be taking place is the world against radical Islam because they are the only religion that is beating, raping, torturing & murdering the innocent!!! To deny there’s war on religion is just downright stupid!!

      • Uzoozy

        We need not have to go to any Muslim country to be raped, there is a rape in USA every 7 second do you know how many per year.
        Clean your backyard first.

        • Frederick Fargher

          Oh, & I suppose you are such a perfect, moral & righteous person that you don’t need to clean up YOUR backyard, right? Go eat a pig’s butt Mr.Clean!

          • Uzoozy

            I am not perfect because I am human. I was talking about the thingy you follow.

          • Roger Mills

            Now, now… don’t lower yourself to the language of these “good Christians”. HA!

        • disqus_pNhkHlXhCQ

          That is why you should turn your heart to Christ. The devil is alive and well and he knows that his time is short, so he is working triple time. The Bible tells us that these things will take place before Jesus returns for his children. “Come soon Lord Jesus”

          • Uzoozy

            Jesus was supposedly to come since the time he was raised to heaven. His disciples waited in vain since day one.
            You are waiting for the impossible miracle. Move on , like Santa which is not reall.
            Whats the hurry the Satan is not coming soon.
            This is typical preachers pulpit scare tatics. Pray to God and be blessed.

      • Roger Mills

        The only wars going on, are going on for the same reasons they’ve been going on for a thousand years. It’s just that you’ve only been around for a couple of decades so they seem new and as so many of your ilk, history is not your strong suite. And always the “feces” comments. Don’t recall that in the bible. OH, but that doesn’t matter actually as it’s all made up. Go ask god, and wait for an answer …. in your language …. from himself …. in person. (So weird that that never happens … it’s ALWAYS in code. HA! Oh look, a burning bush. What’s it saying?)

    • disqus_pNhkHlXhCQ

      You are truly trying to pull someones chain aren’t you Roger? All you have to do is listen to the president on a routine bases to know that you are not truthful about this, or else you are not in your right mind. You don’t look like a guy who is dumb or crazy, that is, if that is your picture.

      • Uzoozy

        Simple answer Islam is the only true religion

        • kcruzette7

          Islam is a religion, but with Jesus it is a relationship not a religion.

      • Roger Mills

        Yes, I’m a rather handsome old coot … and who do you know that’s in their “right mind” HA! Darn this half-negro President. Such a bad guy. Why is God letting him do so many bad things? Oh, wait a minute… I think the devil is running Fox News and causing all this stir. The devil is from Australia you know.

      • Roger Mills

        The toilet reference is a bit old, (FYI the chain thing) but just listen to that President’s words, as described and edited by Fox news, he’s just SO terrible. What? Be specific? Uh….. can’t. But I now he’s bad and from Africa.

    • RobertNorwood

      Thank you for that, all the atheists working at fever pitch to remove anything even remotely symbolic of Christianity are waging what, a pancake breakfast?
      If the Right is all about hyperbole then it is fair and accurate to say the Left is all about absurdity? Nice to know the left could never be guilty of an absurd exaggeration – like a war on women.

  • Darrell Murray

    Trash for the liberal like minded trash.

    • Roger Mills

      Yeah. That’s it. Good comment. Maybe use CAPS next time for the trash thing.

  • DonRL

    Remember it was Cain who when his sacrifice was rejected by God because of His unrighteousness and rebellion against God killed his brother who was accepted by God because he obeyed God and offered the prescribed sacrifice. Cain would not be told he was wrong so he killed his brother.
    This is the same reason Muslims kill when rebuked for their false religion. It is a religion that was made up by Mohammad because of his ego and accept by its adherents because of their ego. When ego is challenged, ego cannot stand criticism due to pride so they kill and silence all opposition.
    Christians on the other hand have the truth (Jesus said, “I am the way, the truth, and the life and no man comes unto the father but by me”. There is not ego in accepting Jesus and what He did for us by dying an paying for our sins. We can go to heaven because of what He did for us rather than trying to get to heaven by what we do (like the Muslims do). When they are told they are wrong and can never get to heaven by what they do they want to kill the on who tells them they are wrong just like Cain killed Able. Christians have no ego involved. They are not on an ego trip trying to get to heaven their own way. They are going to heaven because they are depending on what Jesus did for them. They have the truth and do not need to kill anyone who disagrees with them. They only try to help that person to see the truth. Christians want all to go to heaven by trusting in Jesus because there is no other way.
    The false religion of Cain, which kills all who criticize and all the disagree has been brought into the modern world by Islam. It is Satan who is the murder as Jesus said. and his followers are also killers.
    Trust in Jesus for there is no other name given among men whereby you must be saved. Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you WILL be saved. Try any other way and you WILL NOT be saved.

    • Uzoozy

      MY ANSWER to your question what would a Muslim say about, black Jesus, I would say if it is offence to Christians then the show should NOT go on.
      So one believes in Jesus and is a serial killer the person goes to heaven.
      Cannot happen, one has to do what is required to get to heaven, prayers, charity and believe in ONE God, no Jesus as one of the triune.
      Jesus the highest honored prophet of God did NOT die on the cross he was lifted to heaven with a replacement on the cross.
      We, each one of us are born free of all sins, no such thing as Original sin.
      Is every woman cursed(according to Christianity ).
      Don Rl you have no knowledge about Islam so lay off the subject.
      All your holy books are man made concoctions.
      Jesus the messenger of God was a mighty person in the eyes of God.
      Mother Mary was a pious and holy person.
      You must be from the blood of Cain.

      • While I don’t know much about Islam and, Don’s comment is partially right, “Your Answer” is totally NONSENSE!!! AND you know very little about “Christianity” and almost NOTHING about CHRIST!!!! You may want to pick up a Bible and STUDY some more!!! (A LOT more)…..

        • disqus_pNhkHlXhCQ

          Stealth, Uzoozy would not believe what he read even if he picked up the Bible. He has already said that it is just written by man made concoctions. It is very sad because he will see one day that God’s Word is true and powerful and that it was inspired by our Almighty God who sent it as a book to live by and it is his love letter to us. Jesus Christ is God. He came to earth as a man born of a Virgin and had no sin. He lived as man to show that he knows what we go through. He loved us so much that he died on a cruel rugged cross for us. It will not do any good to tell this man anything, however we do have the responsibility to tell him once. My advice to anyone is to ask God for the truth of His Word. If we sincerely are seeking truth, he will tell us in one form or another and we will know that it is him.
          Our heart and mind has to be sincerely seeking the truth. Anyone can be saved if they truly repent and give their heart to the one and only Savior. Too many times we have too much pride to admit that we were wrong. What is having to be right compared to spending eternity with our God?

          • Roger Mills

            There is no god. Get used to it. AND besides who’d want to spend eternity with a character that allows such incredible pain and sorrow to exist for his own entertainment? That’d be crazy.

          • kcruzette7

            The FOOL hath said in his heart there is no God…Psalms…14:1…God’s way ahead of you Roger…He has a word for every lie, distortion and excuse.. to not believe Him…for the sole purpose you will not have an excuse why you didn’t believe, why you didn’t know, why you didn’t accept His gift of salvation…. Everyone is given the chance and opportunity to seek, inquire and find out if its true….You sound like you don’t have the ‘guts’ to seek if its true but make little dribble remarks that amount to nothing…..Conscientiously you’re afraid that there is a God and you will find out..that’s why you don’t (speaking about brain power) explore or seek if by chance its true…..

          • You say: “There is no God. Get used to it”???….Tell me. What do YOU believe in?… You obviously have no clear comprehension of “History” (Whether by man or the Bible). So, Explain to me. HOW did “Everything” come into exsistence??? (As you KNOW it, OR as you have been “taught”)….Did someone “teach” you that there is “No God” OR, Did you just (by your lonesome), decide that; It’s not Possible???? I’m just curious….When i get “curious”, I research as to the “WHY” people think or believe what they “believe”…. No offense intended and believe me, during MY “researches”, I can understand why a lot of folks believe what they do. Even some atheists. I’d just like to get YOUR take on things….You do seem to have a way of needling others….Just ONE small thing:….”Science compliments Creation”…..

          • I agree!!! I started out homeless with a duffle bag of clothes and my Bible. Read it back and forth until it was falling apart. BUT, I did not “UNDERSTAND” all that i read!! Some things “sounded good” but a few verses later, I became totally confused all over again. Until i came across a verse where Christ said:…”But when YOU pray, Go into your closet and pray to The Father in secret, and He shall reward you openly”..(Paraphrasing)..Since i loved to read and had majored in English (and my raggedy Bible was all i had), I “ASKED” (in secret. in prayer), Not for material things (given my then current situation), But i asked for “Wisdom & Understanding” of His written Word!! This was back in 1983. I have since been blessed in the subject of “History” and the “Wisdom & Understanding” of what it TRULY says throughout Scriptures. His Holy Spirit settled on me and the Bible came alive!!! I have seen PROPHECY come to pass and is still unfolding today!!! I now understand the “reasons” behind the MANY DIFFERENT RELIGIOUS “Beliefs”!! “Ever learning but, never coming to the Truth”… It hurts when i read comments like Uzoozy but; I know that he/she is not being “called” at this time. Many truly believe that they are called or that they are “born again” or “saved”….As it is written: “You believe in God, you do well. The Demons believe and tremble”….We must remember that it’s an on going battle on a “daily basis”. We are not “saved” just yet but; some of us are “protected”!!! Those so-called “Christians” need to take to heart what Paul wrote to the brothers at Ephesus!!!! Eph 6:10-18!! We are in constant “SPIRITUAL WARFARE”!!!! Be at peace and may God be with you!!!!

        • Roger Mills

          The bible is good for exercise. Get a really big one and pick it up in multiple reps. Does wonders for the abs. Little for your mind however, as it’s ancient myths written by those seeking power and wealth.

      • ReneeTru

        If you do some deep study you will find that even Mohammed knew Jesus died on the cross. Your religion came around hundreds of years after Christ. Many writings of your Imams conflict significantly. Just ask those who used to be Muslim. They grew up memorizing the Quran and praying five times a day, and helping the poor. They believed that Jesus was a Prophet but that Muhammed was a greater prophet. Once they really studied with a teachable mind, they could see all the untruths in the teachings of Islam. You are still stuck according to what you are writing here.

        • Uzoozy

          Renee, Jesus did not die on the cross, it has been revealed in the Quran not written by any human.
          Muslims believe that Jesus was a holy prophet sent by. GOD to salvage their lives and show them the correct way. Ie pray to one God.
          I see wholesale corruption deceit incest in the Bible.
          Islam is the true religion of God. I have read the Bible many times, have you read and understood the bible, the problem is which bible to believe.
          Leaves you to your reading.

          • ReneeTru
          • Uzoozy

            Like the Gospel the narrative is written by a professional crook.
            The follower of IIslam are blessed by God directly . No need for black or green Jesus.
            Jesus was a messenger of God like other prophets.
            His mission was carried out on a donkey May God bless him.

          • ReneeTru

            Sir you are brain washed. According to your answers you are stuck without the ability to think and reason for yourself. I wish you well in life.

          • Uzoozy

            I have studied the bible and the Gospels fot the padtt few years and my responses reflect that.
            One cannot serve two masters at the same time. Quran is the true word of God reading it with open your mind . The book is full of wisdom . Read and be blessed

          • ReneeTru

            Oh I am blessed Sir, but mos def not by Allah. I do know this for sure. I have been on this earth for sixty years. In my lifetime, I have observed much and gained insight and wisdom and plan on continuing to do so. In my search of Truth I examined many belief systems. What I know without a doubt are the systems to stay away from and Islam is number one followed by Satanism. Those who are killing innocents in mass i.e. terrorist activity are usually Muslim Not all Muslims are terrorists by any means, however the majority of terrorists are Muslim. Any who would do harm to babies are evil.

          • kcruzette7

            How did you find out Jesus was a messenger on a donkey? If you read that part and accept that- what causes you not to accept the rest? it sounds like you’re taught to do a lot of picking and choosing to whatever fits.. What message did Jesus give on the donkey?What steps led up to Him being on a donkey? What kind of blessings is God giving directly to the followers of Islam?

          • Roger Mills

            HA! We’ve discovered the source of war! My god’s better than yours!! I say we get this on a cable pay-for-view wrestling match and have ALL THE GODS show up and duke it out.

          • Roger Mills

            “wholesale corruption deceit INCEST” ?? You’ve got a great TV idea there. Quick, get an agent. We’ll call it, “MY GOD IS BETTER THAN YOURS” Has a ring of success.

          • Uzoozy

            God is God the same for the entire worlds and all persons.
            Your statement has a ring of hatred.

          • kcruzette7

            If the Quran is not written by human, who wrote it?

          • Uzoozy

            Unlike the bible Quran wasrevealed by God.

          • kcruzette7

            How did God reveal it and to who? And, once it was revealed who scribed it?

        • Roger Mills

          Yeah, they’re lying about starving and miserable. The mountain air is good for you.

    • Where in Scripture does it state that when a person “passes on” they go to heaven??? AND what would one be doing for all eternity?? (IF this is what Scripture says happens upon death)….Not trying to be funny. ALL religions seem to teach that we “go” somewhere after death. But upon further examination, Scripture doesn’t teach that!….Just a thought in passing…..Don’t mean to offend……

      • ladyhenry

        It talks about if you believe you will be with God.

        • I believe that GOD will be with “US”…… 😉

          • foxxybey

            He is in Born Again Believers today and someday we will go to be with HIm.

          • beeta

            If you are raptured with the saints you will be with God, but if you do not you will be left to try to live through the tribulation. If you except Christ you will be in the mellinial Reign of Christ and the saints ruling over the earth . And yes he will be with those on earth that did not make the rapture.. I prefer going in the rapture for is is going to be VERY hard to live through the ant-Christ and the Hell that is going on this earth during that 7 yrs. You have a choice to not be here during that time. REpent , serve Him and go up in the Rapture and be with God..Nothing on this earth is worth missing heaven for.. It is a world of satan rules.. SIN. No evil will be allowed in heaven. No pain , no grief, no sadness and no tears. This is hell on earth. I am going to be with Jesus and leave this old sinful world behind for He has prepared a place for those that believe on him..

      • Edward Priest

        We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.

        • Did Christ not say that HE shall return??? No need to go to Heaven….We will be “Changed” from mortality to immortality. And after all is said and done, There will be a “New Heaven” and a “New Earth”….We will become sons and daughters of the Living God!! Co-heirs with our Elder Brother Christ!! There is a vast, ever expanding universe “out there” that needs “tending to”. Therefore, I don’t believe that we will be sitting around in Heaven or on clouds playing harps!! Don’t you know that we shall judge the Angels??? There is much to see of our future that is written in Scripture if we just take the time to look!!!…You can even find “TWO” Resurrections in the Book of Revelation…(Rev 20)…I suspect that some of us will NOT be “up in Heaven”…. 😉

          • foxxybey

            Christ returns after a 7 year period of tribulation and rules on earth for a thousand years or the Jewish Kingdom on earth, you going to be around? I don’t think so. Enoch was raptured alive, Elijah was raptured alive and neither died as yet. Born Again Believers John 3:3 who are trusting in Christ John 14:6 will be caught up to heaven and those of us who are alive shall be caught up with them alive. 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17, and those who are in Christ shall not see the wrath of God and the tribulation is the Wrath of God. Seems you play a duel game accusing in one comment and all knowing in the other, make up your mind.

          • I am NOT all knowing and i accuse no one!! ALL Scripture is for “Correction” and “Reproof”….I agree with the Scriptures that you and others wrote. My “POINT” in all this is my “Understanding” of Scriptures. Rev 21 CLEARLY states where we shall “be” (God willing)…Pay close attention to the first 3 verses….Now then, Can you point to me where it says in Scriptures that Christ returns after a 7 year period of Tribulation??? As for Christ’s thousand year rule on the earth, That is True but; No mention of a “Jewish Kingdom”. You might want to read Rev 20 again. Pay close attention to verses 4 thru 6 and tell me “Are YOU going to be around”???? ;-))

          • foxxybey

            I read very well and discern very well and the Book of Revelation from the first verses of chapter 4 is the rapture of the church represented by John who was a Born Again Believer and the church is not mentioned again until chapter 19 and all the symbols are Jewish in the judgments, and the tribulation is the time of Jacobs trouble and where in scripture does it say the Jews had a kingdom on earth after Jesus predicted his return after building on to His Fathers House. Jesus was asked when the Jews would have their kingdom promised in the Covenant to Abraham in Genesis, also to Isaac and Jacob and it has never come about as yet. All in Matthew 24 along with the signs that will take place before the tribulation. I will be in heaven at the marriage supper of the Lamb and will return with Him to rule on earth. Know anything about the Jewish wedding in history? The Father and the future Groom went to the father of the bride to be and paid the price for the wedding, with us it was the death, burial and resurrection and Jesus paid that price for His bride. Then the son went to build on to the fathers house and returned for his bride at a time not expected, then they went to the fathers house and celebrated the wedding feast for 7 days, in our case 7 years. When Christ returns he rules from Jerusalem and sits on the throne of David as a rightful heir to the throne, his linage in both Matthew and Luke show His mother in the line of David and Joseph His step father was also from the line of David and Jesus sits on that throne and rules the Jewish Kingdom for a thousand years as promise in the Old Testament. So the answer is I won’t be around for the tribulation but will be there for the thousand years.

          • WOW!! You are all over the place but; Okay. God Bless You!!!

          • Roger Mills

            It’s a great fairy tale. Like the part where you are scared into believing BECAUSE otherwise it’s burning in hell for eternity. That’s a long, long time. Think even this bad ass god would be that cruel? 100 billions (+/-) humans have lived on this dirt ball and ONLY ONE came back from the dead? And a Mexican at that. (I have brown skin.)

          • Mark Clemens

            Are you in charge? Foxxy says God has a “Work Economy” I thought it was a layed back vacation like place, lots of mansions, gold streets nice things like that. Nothing about working for ever! That would be Paradise Lost……..
            Do you have the Popes phone number. I want to talk to someone official.

          • DCW16

            Guess we will ALL find out one day Roger . . . and won’t you and the mooooslimes be surprized !

            Did your Mexican friend that came back from the dead sneak across the border too?

          • kcruzette7

            You’re thinking black n’ white…Obviously Christ is in heaven to come back. Where are all those that have died before he returns? I Thessalonians 3:13 -“To the end he may stablish your hearts unblameable in holiniess before God, even our Father at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ with all his saints. ”

            So if you need not go to heaven, if you pass out of this life before Christ returns, where do you as a believer go?

          • Where are all those that have died before He returns??? Well, They are “asleep” and await the “Promise” (Which is the First Resurrection)…Both Peter & Paul confirms this!!! Peter confirms this in Acts 2:29-36!!! Paul confirms this in Hebrews 11th Chap. concerning the Great Patriarchs of the Old Testament (see verse 13)…And Paul further confirms this in I Corinthians 15:50-58…Where do you go when you pass out of this life??? You are “dead” (asleep) in Christ awaiting for His return!!! WHEN??? Paul says: “At the LAST Trump”!! (verse 52-54)….You can then follow the order of events written in the Book of Revelation!! It’s the only book that is written in chronological order!! And if by chance your eyes are opened, You will be able to compare Christ’s version (Matt 24) that He tells to His disciples (about the Great Tribulation) to the “vision” that He shows John in the Book of Revelation….

          • kcruzette7

            How do you get around the scripture to be absent from the body is present w/the Lord and the thief went into paradise that same day w/Christ…that’s not asleep. When the bible states there is no life in the grave…that means the spirit of man is gone because it is the spirit of man that indicates life. That is where God’s breath is in man.

            The Word teaches us man cannot teach us the meaning of scripture but the Spirit of the living God teaches the meaning of scripture which is by revelation knowledge. The patriarchs of Old did not have Jesus who is the Resurrection. They went to ‘sleep’. in the bosom of Abraham, (taken out of circulation in this life). Remember the passage about the rich man and poor man passing. The rich man could see the poor man – but there was a great expanse between them. .When Jesus came He said, “I am the Resurrection!” So Christ being in you – you have been given resurrection power.

            We live in Christ now as the Word teaches us our lives are hid in Him. Through the power of the Holy Spirit we are taught and revealed the truth of the Word of God which is (again) spirit-taught. It is according to our level and measure of faith what we are able to grasp to believe. The Spirit of God has to open our eyes or understanding.

            Jesus showed He was and is the resurrection by the raising of Lazarus. Romans 8:ll-“But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, He that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by His Spirit that dwelleth in you. vs 12 – “Therefore, brethren we are debtors, not to the flesh to live after the flesh.” vs 13 -“For if we live after the flesh, YE SHALL DIE; but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, YE SHALL LIVE ! Live full of His Spirit – that is life. Before that we are considered dead to God in our trespasses.

            The Holy Spirit ‘opens up the scriptures’ so that we understand them. You are not in the same category as those that have not accepted Jesus. You are not in the same category as the Jews who did not accept their Messiah, but will soon acknowledge who He is. You are baptized in the Holy Ghost, receiving the power that Jesus has, who Jesus said, “The Holy Spirit will bring us into all truths”..
            So you’re understanding is this: Heaven has been empty and still is empty of all mankind, civilization, since the beginning of time; God and His spiritual ‘staff’ (if you will) has been waiting all this time before anyone can enter heaven.

            The Word is not black n’ white. How do you know that God hasn’t resurrected some already. There are people being resurrected from the dead now in meetings. What does that mean?

            When the Word states it’s appointed unto man to die once and then judgement. It doesn’t say that He waits for all mankind to die then He judges. Judgement -which is the determination where you go is made after you die.

          • The Word is not in black and white. I never insinuated that. How do i know that God hasn’t resurrected some already??? I have posted Scriptures and verses…Christ Himself said that: “No man has seen The Father except Him who has come from The Father”…You mean to tell me that King David is “up in Heaven” right now?? OR, Abraham, Moses, Issac, Jacob etc… THESE are the GREAT Patriarchs of the OLD TESTAMENT that were able to “talk with God”! Some on a personal level. YET, Paul states in Hebrew 11 chap that: “These all died in “FAITH”, NOT having received the “PROMISES”, But, “having SEEN them AFAR off, (envisioned them), And were PERSUADED of them (the visions), And EMBRACED them, And CONFESSED that they were “STRANGERS and PILGRIMS “on the earth”….(Read the whole chapter): Verse 40…”And these all, having obtained a good report “through faith”, received NOT “The Promise”!!… God having provided some BETTER thing for US, that THEY without US should not be “made perfect”……What is “The Promise” you might ask?? Well, That WE become “Sons & Daughters” of The Living GOD!! The FATHER GOD has ALWAYS wanted a “FAMILY”!!! Therefore you will find Him (or The “Word” CHRIST) saying: Let “US” create man in “OUR IMAGE”, after “OUR LIKENESS”!!! Gen 1:26-27 and Gen 2: 20-25…..And if you would know Jesus, and WHO HE REALLY IS/WAS and STILL IS, You will notice John 1:1-14 which states that, “In the Beginning was The Word”, and The Word was with God and The Word (or God’s SPOKESPERSON) was GOD….ALL things were MADE (created) by Him! (The Word)….And The Word “became” (or was made) flesh and dwelt among us…. This SAME JESUS is found all throughout the Old Testament!!! He confirms this when He said “No man has seen The Father nor Heard His Voice”!!! SO WHO did the GREAT ONES of the OT talk to????

          • kcruzette7

            Face to face, no one can look upon Him. When Elijah fled when Jezebel was after his life, he laid down wanting to die. An angel woke him up-had him eat to fuel him for his trek would be forty days and forty nights to get to Horeb. Behold the Word of the Lord came to him told him to Go forth and stand upon the mount before the Lord. and, behold the Lord passed by, and a great and strong wind rent the mountains, but the Lord was not in the wind. After the an earthquake, but the Lord was not in the earthquake. After the earthquake a fire, but the Lord was not in the fire: and after the fire a still small voice. Elijah heard the voice of the Lord when he was told to go forth and afterwards.

            Romans 8:14 – identify who the sons & daughters are now…”For as many as are led by the SPIRIT OF GOD, they are the SONS OF GOD. This is not a future event. It is those that are led by the Spirit of God.

            The way we become sons (no longer children) John 1:12-“But as many as received Him, to them gave He power to become the Sons of God. even to them that believe on his name. vs 13 -“Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man but of God.
            The Word was made flesh and dwelt amongst us as is written…so too, when we receive His Spirit He has adopted us into Him and we show we are His sons & daughters, by hearing His voice, reading His Word, growing up to be more and more in the likeness of His image. We can’t attain understanding without His Spirit.
            The Old Testament God had prophets who heard and knew God’s voice. After Christ with the dispensation of the Holy Spirit the ability to hear God was made available to all who received Him.

            What was the full promise? Old Testament, the promise of the coming King – the Messiah! The New Testament promise – to see the King coming in His full glory and receiving His kingdom.

            They died in their faith – believing what they heard was true. You have believed God without seeing! You had to believe to accept Jesus…And you did it by believing without seeing. You hear God by the inner voice of the Lord and reading the scriptures.

            Yes I do believe the Patriarchs of old are with our Lord now. As Hebrews 12:1 states we are compassed about with a great cloud of witnesses. Remember Moses and Elijah appeared with Jesus on Mount Transfiguration…They were not sleeping…

            Everything is conceived in the spirit realm first.

          • You “twist” Scriptures to suit what you believe. You “add to” one Scripture and “take away” from another. You have “missed” the “message”…..I leave you in peace…:-) GOD (The Word) Be with you….

          • kcruzette7

            Bless you for leaving me in peace…I don’t twist scripture is as how my Heavenly Father has taught me..You’re right there will be a famine of the Word and that is why we are to do -Hide the Word of God in our heart…to know the Word, practice walking in the Word, every day and to continue fellowshipping as we see that day approaching. No doubt you’re a believer.!!

          • I mean no harm here. I was just trying to point out this: “what’s the point of having a “Judgement Day” if we automatically go to heaven or hell upon death”??? That’s called “Pre-Judgement”…..But i digress…I’ve seemed to have upset a few people and that was NOT my intentions…..Grace be unto you and peace from God our Father and from our Lord Jesus Christ!!!…..

          • kcruzette7

            I can tell you are passionate about the things of God and that is very commendable..and you are forthright…the Word teaches us ‘to come and let us reason together’…remember the Apostle went to the House of Cornelius-who was a Godly man, but He didn’t have the fullness of the revelation of Jesus and the Holy Spirit. They went to Cornelius’es house and expounded more about Jesus and The Holy Spirit; having been in His company. .

            It isn’t automatically going to heaven or hell. A judgment from the Lord has to be made to send you to hell or heaven. Hell with all its demons and tormentors is like holding tank…until Satan is going to be cast into the Lake of fire and brimstone. Then Hell and it’s occupants with satan will go into the Lake of Fire and Brimstone. That’s the final judgment!

          • YES!!….”Come, and let us reason together”!!!!…. THAT, is all i was asking…..The book of Isiah is very eye opening as paul & Christ Himself quotes from it…..God Bless You….

          • kcruzette7

            God bless you too! You are a ‘stealth fighter’ for the Lord !!

          • I never insinuated that Heaven is “empty”…The Book of Revelation CLEARLY shows that there is a whole lot of “activity” going on!!! The Books of Isaiah, Ezekiel, Jeremiah, & Daniel Also confirm that there is PLENTY going on “up in Heaven”!! It’s just that WE (as humans) can’t see it!!! It’s called another “Dimension” OR the “Spirit” world. Paul stated: “There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial”; But the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another…(I Cor 15:39-41)….Again Paul “Identifies” what (Humans) as “TRUE CHRISTIANS” must deal with on a daily basis!!! Ephesians 6:10-18. Verse 12 makes it “PLAIN”!!! So, It is not me that disagrees with you. And I am not your enemy. My job is to shed a “little bit of light” in a dark world! NOT as we have been taught according to the “Traditions” of Scriptures that has been passed down by men…I do not Judge…I will leave you with Matt 7:13-27…

          • One more thing (referring to your post). I do not “Get Around” Scriptures… The Bible answers itself. I’m not a minister or pastor or whatever that “pulls a quote” from the Bible and creates a religion…As it is written in Isaiah 29:9-14……Then again>> “Behold, the days come Saith The Lord God, that I will send a famine in the land. Not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of the hearing of the words of the Lord: And they shall wander from sea to sea, and from the north even to the east, they shall run to and fro to seek the word of The Lord, and shall not find it!!! (Amos 8:11).

          • Scott M Sykes

            Isaiah 29:9-14

            New King James Version (NKJV)

            The Blindness of Disobedience

            9 Pause and wonder!
            Blind yourselves and be blind!
            They are drunk, but not with wine;
            They stagger, but not with intoxicating drink.
            10 For the Lord has poured out on you
            The spirit of deep sleep,
            And has closed your eyes, namely, the prophets;
            And He has covered your heads, namely, the seers.

            11 The whole vision has become to you like the words of a book that is sealed, which men deliver to one who is literate, saying, “Read this, please.”

            And he says, “I cannot, for it is sealed.”

            12 Then the book is delivered to one who is illiterate, saying, “Read this, please.”

            And he says, “I am not literate.”

            13 Therefore the Lord said:

            “Inasmuch as these people draw near with their mouths
            And honor Me with their lips,
            But have removed their hearts far from Me,
            And their fear toward Me is taught by the commandment of men,
            14 Therefore, behold, I will again do a marvelous work
            Among this people,
            A marvelous work and a wonder;
            For the wisdom of their wise men shall perish,
            And the understanding of their prudent men shall be hidden.”
            Just stop talking Stealth. Your IGNORANCE IS SHOWING!

          • I was about to post the same Scripture but, I was tired. AND, I assure you that i am far from ignorant… You have read my comments just like most people read Scriptures. The two just can’t seem to “connect”…..I will refrain from name calling because that solves nothing.

          • Scott M Sykes

            Really Paul in Hebrews? I what I have read it is supposed that Paul MAY HAVE written Hebrews but it is not sure of.

            Acts 2:29-36 New King James Version (NKJV)
            29 “Men and brethren, let me speak freely to you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his tomb is with us to this day. 30 Therefore, being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him that of the fruit of his body, according to the flesh, He would raise up the Christ to sit on his throne,[a] 31 he, foreseeing this, spoke concerning the resurrection of the Christ, that His soul was not left in Hades, nor did His flesh see corruption. 32 This Jesus God has raised up, of which we are all witnesses. 33 Therefore being exalted to the right hand of God, and having received from the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit, He poured out this which you now see and hear.
            34 “For David did not ascend into the heavens, but he says himself:
            ‘The Lord said to my Lord,
            “Sit at My right hand,
            35 Till I make Your enemies Your footstool.”’[b]
            36 “Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly that God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ.”

            Hebrews 11 speaks of Faith and not of the “sleep”.

            1 Corinthians 15:50-58 New King James Version (NKJV) Our Final Victory
            50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; nor does corruption inherit incorruption. 51 Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed— 52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54 So when this corruptible has put on incorruption, and this mortal has put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written: “Death is swallowed up in victory.”[a]

            55 “O Death, where is your sting?[b]
            O Hades, where is your victory?”[c]

            56 The sting of death is sin, and the strength of sin is the law. 57 But thanks be to God, who gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.

            58 Therefore, my beloved brethren, be steadfast, immovable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, knowing that your labor is not in vain in the Lord.
            Stealthfighter don’t know what book you are reading from but it is not God’s Word.

          • You are correct!!! Hebrews writer leans toward “Paul” but, Not sure. Hebrews 11 points to the FACT that the Great Patriarchs of old “died in Faith” not yet receiving the “Promises” (of eternal life) but; “having seen (the promises) them afar off”…..MEANING that they are STILL dead awaiting the “RESURRECTION” spoken/written by Paul in I Cor 15: 50-58!!! These will take part in the FIRST resurrection mentioned in Rev 20 along with those who have been persecuted in the name of Christ!! We read the SAME BOOK! It’s just that some of us have been blessed to be able to connect the dots! This is the reason that the book of Hebrews seems to be written by Paul. Now concerning “Spiritual Gifts”…I Cor 12….I would not have you ignorant…..

          • Scott M Sykes

            Ah but you forget that story of Lazarus and the rich man now don’t you? You see, they are not dead or sleeping they await judgment in the place that they are doomed to serve in or praise in for eternity. We will all be called up in the end days as the Lamb calls His own and those who bear false testimony and doctrine will suffer their fate for misguiding the faithful

          • There are some who believe that when a person dies that they “automatically” go to heaven. Or hell for that matter. I beg to differ and you made my point. You wrote: “they await judgement”…..(The rest of your sentence makes no sense). Solomon wrote “The dead know not anything”…I agree…If one DID automatically go to heaven or hell upon death, Then “Judgement Day” is meaningless!!!!….

          • beeta

            To be absent from the body is to be present with the lord.. I believe we are with Christ immediately in paradice and he told the thief on the Cross.”Today you will be with me in paradice” . When my mother passed in April we had a pack . The one that died first to come back if they could and tell the other where they were in death. She did just that.. She went to a friend she had not seen in 2 yrs because her health she no longer lived where the friend lived. She attended church with this family and loved them and they loved her.. While my mother lay dying her spirit appeared to this friend at 3 a.m awoke him and said to him with her hand out stretched to him.. : “Bro Joe, take my hand , I am with my Savior , I am in Heaven..” Bro Joe woke up his wife and told him that Mrs. Howard came to me just now in a vision. She woke me and he repeated what she said to him to his wife. He did not know my mother had passed away till that evening late. He came to the funeral home at visitation with tears running down his face broken . He told us what had happened at 3 a.m. that morning. He repeated to us what she had said. Bro Joe did not know that my mother ALWAYS refered to Jesus as “MY SAVIOR” This also validated to me that what my mother had said to him was real.. MY MOTHER WAS ABLE TO SEND ME BACK THE WORD THAT SHE WAS IN HEAVEN .. There is a heaven and there is a hell. My mother is in heaven and I will go there when I die or in the Rapture.. I pray I see you all there..

          • Sorry. You cannot find the word “Rapture” anywhere in Scriptures. Read what Christ said to His disciples in Matt 24. Pay close attention to verses 8-10 AND verses 20-22. Not too many will escape the Great Tribulation….

          • beeta

            The believer leaves the body and goes immediately to be with the lord. ” To be absent from the body is to be present with the lord”. Christ.. The body goes to the grave and the spirit and soul goes to God if you are a child of God. The wicked dead will remain in the grave to be resurrected at the Great white throne judgement at the end of the Mellineial Reign. The saints will be raptured to be with Christ. Those that died and their souls and spirits are in heaven will return to the grave and rise with a glorified body as the living will be .. The living at the rapture will be raised in glorfied bodies after the dead in Christ rise.. BUT this ALL happens in less than a blink of the eye. That is .02 of a second. God is fast.. What a day that will be when our Jesus we shall see and we look upon his face the one who save us by his grace.. He will take us by his hand and lead us to the promised land… What a day , a glorious day that will be.

        • Roger Mills

          Mmmm….. hocus pocus is so cool… I’m (secretly) with God and you’re not. Oh that’s good. Let’s put that in our new “bible” that’s the real word of God… Thinking we should rise price on salvation too. People are getting away with murder by the name of God. OH! How about… there are TWO hells? A second for people who are posting mockery of this discussion by the bugs presently living on this dirt ball in space. Let it sink in.

      • kcruzette7

        III Corinthians 5:vs 6 -We are always confident, knowing that while we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord – vs 8-“We are confident, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.” (Where is the Lord?) John 20:17…”I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God”. (Where is the Father?) Matthew 5:48- “Be ye perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.”

        From that we know that Jesus ascended into heaven to be with God the Father who is in heaven. Therefore when we leave our bodies we are present with him.

        Luke 23:43-(The thief crucified on the cross along side Jesus was told…)”Verily I say unto you, Today you shall be with me in paradise.”

        So we know if we have a relationship with Christ we do go to heaven.

        Matthew 10:28- teaches us….”And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

        • Ever read Acts 1:7-11???

          • foxxybey

            I teach Bible twice a week and you point is? God has a work economy and if you read in Genesis you will see that, I’m sure there will be jobs in heaven but, without sin around a person will enjoy what they are doing, no illness, no pain, no sadness and in the presents of God Himself.

          • Okay. So you teach (the) Bible twice a week. That doesn’t mean that you “Understand or Know” it!! “Jobs in Heaven”??? Most likely. There was/is a PURPOSE for God “Creating” the heavens and the earth!! And there was/is a PURPOSE for God “Creating” Mankind!! The REASON is in the book of Genesis!! Which I HAVE read many times…My “Point”??? Once you come to the understanding of WHY God “Created” IN THE FIRST PLACE, You just might see “my point”. And we agree on this: You will definitely ENJOY what you will be doing. With no pain, no illness, no sadness, no sin etc… That’s a given….I leave you with this tidbit: Rom 11:33-36…Be at peace foxxy…

          • Mark Clemens

            No! No! It can’t be! Jobs in heaven??!! Exactly what did the Devil do? Call in sick? Want a raise? Start a union? Organize a strike? No wonder there are more Muslims, they get virgins. This aint right! I heard you got a mansion and love sit around exchange great thoughts, be around God. The damned did all the work.

          • **snicker** :-))

          • madmemere

            “They get virgins”; that IS a laugh. No one has come back to tell them their 72 virgins are 36 lesbians and 36 very angry nuns!

          • madmemere

            Yes, my intent was to get you to lighten up and laugh a bit; we all need some laughter.

          • Mark Clemens

            Nuns are Catholics, not Islamist. Nor does Islam condone homosexual stuff. Are you religiously confused? Seventy virgins forever sounds better than working for ever!

          • madmemere

            Of course, nuns are Catholic; judging by what’s going on in the world today, just “why” do you suppose they’re “angry”? How many nuns, priests and other “religious” have been tortured and killed by islamist. Even for a nun, “revenge” can be sweet!

          • john millican

            A “virgin” by definition is something untouched by man. If they get 72 “virgins” forever; (which is wrong BTW) that would mean they do not get to “touch” them. ROFLOL

          • Mark Clemens

            Well you won’t be man in heaven, What ever heaven you go to, you’ll be angelic. So by your logic they will never loose their virginity.
            I’m telling the Pope on y’all for accidentally promoting Islam.

          • john millican

            I don’t think I’m promoting Islam. I’m exposing the truth. I don’t think many will be very happy that they can “look but not touch”. lol

          • Mark Clemens

            IDK about all of that……..
            If you couldn’t touch what would be the point in getting them? Plus according to your logic, they never loose their virginity. Why is it wrong? Your in paradise. The rules charge after death……….

          • beeta

            While in Heaven we will have glorified bodies like Christ. Our thoughts will be on Christ and worship of Our father and his Son.. We were created to procreate on earth according to the plan of God for earthly man.. That is not the case in heaven. We are there because we put down sin , per our reason for being on earth, and have reached the status of righteous or we will not be in heaven.. The nature of earthly man will be changed to that of a heavenly body. While in heaven we are only spirit and soul after death. When he returns in the rapture the spirit and soul return to the grave and is resurrected in a glorified body. There will be no procreating there. He has the population there that were saved by grace. To bring more into heaven would put us back to square one. Only the redeemed will be in heaven. They are redeemed because they excepted his sacrifice for their sins. a new person there would not have taken that path. when Christ returns with the saints to do battle with the enemies of Israel at the end of the seven yr tribulation, we as saints will rule over the earth with Christ for a 1000 yrs while satan is bound and can temp no one. There will be people that survive the tribulation and except Christ. These people will not be resurrected but in their earthly bodies continue to live in the millenial Reign of Christ and the saints for that 1000 yrs. There will be children born , marriage etc.during this age. . If they sin then without the tempter they will be beheaded and stand before the great white throne judgement at the end of the 1000 yrs. They will be cast into hell with satan and all the sinners raised from the dead and cast into hell. That is the resurrection of the dead that has laid in the grave till the great white throne judgement. This is serious stuff people.. Your soul lays in the balance here.. Hell is real and eternity is without end. This life holds no pleasure compared to what God has prepared for his saints. Satan sinned and tainted 1/3 of heavens angels belonging to God and were cast out of heaven.. There will be only thoughts of purity and worship in the seven yrs we are in heaven with God at the marriage supper with Christ. Heaven will not be polluted with mans earthly thoughts. He will return for man and woman that belong to him and are following his commandments with pure thoughts and lives . Raised to profection in Christ. What awaits the saints in heaven is beyond mans earthly imagination.. God’s ways are so much higher than ours. He is perfect. and a perfect place awaits us. we want have to be entertained . God in all his Glory and the heaven prepared for the saints will be so awesome your mind cannot wrap around it . We will be saints of leisure and worship to God. This life is not worth missing heaven for. To be absent from this body means to be present with our lord.. He is returning soon. Pray , repent , read his word andlive for him and be ready to meet him in the rapture…happening soon.!. Signs of the times he gave us in his word point to his soon return..If he don’t come in your life time be ready to meet him at your death.. You will still be raptured to be with him at the marriage supper of Christ , the lamb, his bride will be the raptured saints…BE READY THIS LIFE OFFERS NOTHING THAT IS WORTHY OF MISSING HEAVEN FOR.. We are on God’s time table not ours.. It will happen when the time is right as God knows only..

          • phil62

            Uh Mark, no we will not be angelic. Angels are angels and humans are humans. We don’t get wings and wear long white robes (well – I don’t know about the robes) but we can’t be angels and don’t want to be. Humans are considered higher than angels by God. That is what started the Sin Wars many, many eons ago in Heaven. That is where Lucifer got all this junk started. Men and women will still be male and female but we will all be brothers and sisters united to Jesus. So — forget it folks but we won’t be having sex in heaven. You won’t have the desire to do so. Boy I bet that ticks off a heck of a lot of Moooselms.

          • Mark Clemens

            Maybe I used the wrong word. My point, you will no longer be human, your dead. There for the virgins will be untouched by man. Why would you not have sex in paradise? God did give us those parts. Point me to a verse were Jesus says no hankey pankey in heaven. I thought heaven was full of love. Don’t we refer to sex as “Making Love”? What more appropriate place to make love, than were love was created, heaven……..
            I think it would please God.

          • phil62

            Have you ever read or heard of the wedding and the wedding feast. We will ALL be as BROTHERS and SISTERS IN GOD and WE ALL will be the BRIDE OF CHRIST. Please take time to read just the book of Revelations and Jeremiah. Get on the internet and type in any key words relating to the end times and Heaven and the great Wedding Feast. It is easy to find a great deal of resources that explain what is being said and it can be used side by side with the Bible. Don’t take my word for any of this: study and learn for yourself.

          • There will be no SEX in paradise!! No need for it…..

          • Mark Clemens

            Yea there is………
            I checked.

          • I’d sure like you to point that out in Scripture….Thank You in advance!!!..

          • Mark Clemens

            Your welcome. I’ll show it to you right after you show me were Jesus, or some important person like that in the bible, who says there is no sex in heaven…..

          • Mark Clemens

            If not, why do you get a spirit/ body that is equal to your prime……?

          • Oldlady25

            Sorry, the apostle Paul makes it clear, we will not be sexual beings. We were made sexual beings for companionship on Earth and to continue outside of Eden we had to reproduce. In heaven neither situation will apply.

          • Mark Clemens

            Paul is one of my favorite characters do you have a specific verse?

          • Oldlady25

            No, there will be no male or female in heaven, but we will all be “like” the angels in heaven, who evidently do not have a sexual identity at all, to use a current phrase. Most of your other statements I agree with, though.

          • Humans? White robes? Wings? Angelic?…..Okay. Let’s start at the beginning. GOD (Elohim) said: “Let US create MAN in OUR IMAGE and after OUR LIKENESS”!!….(Gen 1st Chap). What was The Father’s INTENTION????…….The Father & The WORD (John 1:1-14) are “SPIRIT BEINGS”!!! …..My friends, This is NOT hard to understand….Adam failed the test. We ALL get a “Second Chance” through Christ who LEFT HIS HEAVENLY REALM AND GLORY (John 17 Chap), To come to this earth and pick up where He left off at!!! SO that whoever “BELIEVES IN HIM, MIGHT BE SAVED” (John 3:16).. His “INITIAL PLAN” (Along with The Father), was to CREATE A FAMILY!!! NOT of Flesh and Blood; BUT of SPIRITUAL SONS & DAUGHTERS!!!!! >>> In other words, “CREATORS LIKE HIM”!!!! CAN’T YOU SEE THAT THROUGHOUT THE SCRIPTURES????? I keep getting replies for me to READ the NT!!! Well that goes without saying!!! I have been “RESEARCHING” Scriptures since 1983!!! AND WHAT (pray tell) SCRIPTURES did the APOSTLES STUDY???? Because they surely didn’t have the NT!!! Christ Himself quoted Scriptures from the OT!!!!
            That is why PAUL was moved to remind Timothy that: “ALL SCRIPTURE IS FOR CORRECTION & REPROOF” (proving all things)!!!! NO & NO….
            There are WAY BETTER THINGS waiting ahead than we can’t even begin to imagine!!! And being a MALE or FEMALE is certainly NOT going to be of any concern of the Father’s or Yours…(If you make it)…..

          • phil62

            Uh – just exactly why are you addressing this comment to me? You rant and rave too much. If you would settle down and talk after you think, then people would be far more likely to listen to you. But I still fail to see why you directed all of the ranting at me?

          • My mistake!!! 🙁 Meant for the nut case Mark Clemens…. I’ll try not to “rant & rave” next time….I actually agreed with YOUR response to Mark… Sorry…..

          • phil62

            Thank you and I also need to apologize about the ranting and raving statement. We ALL get heated up and rant and rave at times. Unfortunately it is in our sin nature. God Bless and keep asking questions of everyone – it is good learning for all of us.

          • There is no marriage in the next life……The Bible says so….

          • Oldlady25

            I love it!

          • Uzoozy

            I know for sure there will be hamburgers in heaven.’

          • Mark Clemens

            I like mine w/lettuce and tomato, Heinz 57 and french fried potatoes. Some bacon would be good too.
            Looks like we’re dining w/Jimmy Buffett in paradise!!!!!

          • DR

            Creating worlds beyond number is a job, actually a lot of work. Money and evil do not exist nor have any involvement with work or jobs in heaven.

          • EXACTLY!!!!

          • Uzoozy

            First get to the destination, then you look around for a job.
            Jobs in hell are dirty ones.
            Shalom

          • It depends on what you mean as “HELL”!! In Hebrew it simply means “pit” or “grave”…..(I.E. Hades)…Then you have “Gehenna Fire” an ever-burning flame reserved for the fallen angels!!! (or “Tartaroos” in the greek)…The muslims always have an “ever-burning fire” to burn trash or waste… I bet that Christ was referring to “Gehenna Fire” on at least ONE occasion….. There are no “Jobs” in said “hell”…..

          • Oldlady25

            Our “job” in heaven is to praise God. Our work will no longer be needed.There will be no need for work. Since time as we know it won’t exist, there will be no need to fill it in with activity outside of God’s commandments. The Apostle Paul says we will “reign” with Christ and we will “judge angels”.I don’t know what all that means, but I am sure I will like it.

          • Mark Clemens

            Aw Dang!
            We gotta work in heaven?
            I was expecting a vacation like place were you don’t need money, just wish it poof! There it is. Come on! Who wants to rise from the grave and go to work!? That sounds like hell to me.
            I wanna talk to the Pope, or someone important in charge!!!!!!

          • Consultant

            What you lack is Faith….You seem to have skipped over that part….It would appear your sarcasm is intended to be a damnation of foxxybey’s belief system.
            I have to ask you; What business is it of yours, this person has a belief system, yet unfortunately you have none….Now, who’s the Fool? Seems like a Rhetorical Question, now doesn’t it?
            Perhaps you could write to the Pope, that is if you really wish to query him. I’m certain he’d reply.
            Oh, I get it, you are merely a Sarcastic Believer in Islam….That’s it, or maybe you just believe in Hell. Now, you talk of Promise and Faith, you can bet there exist a Hell, but you’ll know soon enough. Now, let that give you something to think about. If all what foxxybey is right, well Pal, you doomed, now aren’t you.
            This could be your Curse’
            In any case, I wouldn’t want to be you….

          • Mark Clemens

            Kind of judgemental there hoss. Try First Timothy Just the first versus will do. You judge me, knowing i was poking sport at that. I judged nobody.

          • foxxybey

            God says Born Again Believers will judge angels someday and we can judge right and wrong in this world or this world would be in worst scape then it is now, can’t tell a person they are wrong? The left wing seems to do it everyday and they aren’t judges? We judge from the Bible, the Word of God and don’t judge if we are doing the same as those we are telling they are wrong. God Bless and Shalom:

          • beeta

            By your fruits ye shall be known.. that is scripture also.. The world will know you by the fruits you bear… It is for the world to see and it judges itself..

          • foxxybey

            Work here is to support one’s self, in heaven in will be a pleasure to do it, you don’t want to see the pope he is going the other direction and doesn’t have a clue. Ask Jesus, he is the most important person in charge. Shalom:

          • Mark Clemens

            You can’t say if the Pope or anybody else is going to glory or hell, I think doing that is a sin. Somewere in First Timothy? If you start judging people, you’ll put God out of a job. I think Jesus looked down on the practice of man judging man.
            Exactly why is the Pope going to Hell? What kind of dirt do you have on his Holiness? Gambling? Drugs? Girls?
            I think Pope John Paul II was a great pope, Pope Frances looks like he might be on track.

          • foxxybey

            God says you will know them by their fruit and there is only one Gospel and I have never heard the pope say that is the way to heaven, as a matter of fact I belonged to that religion for 46 years and know their doctrines better then most of them do. They believe you work your way to heaven and that is wrong, people are saved by Grace (free gift from God) through Faith (In Jesus, God come in the flesh to die for our sins by HIs death, burial and resurrection). When we ask Him into our lives He gives us a new spirit (Born from Above or Born Again) John 3:3 and read John 14:6,we receive the Holy Spirit who comes to live in us so we can know the things of God as He is a teacher of God and His Word. I once witnessed the Gospel the best friend of pope John Paul 23 as I spend a week with him while he was putting on the popes 20 celebration of being pope together and I’m sure he told the pope the way of salvation. We are all sinners everyone born into the world and that includes popes, priest, nuns, and everyone of every religion on earth and if a person die’s in that sinful state they go to hell period, the only salvation is in Christ (Messiah) Jesus (Savior) no other way and is a gift and not a religion of any type. I don’t practice religion, I have a relationship with God through His Son and has taught this old sinner His Word, have travelled the world preaching the Gospel in many countries as a evangelist, have seen hundreds come to the Lord by faith and seen lives changed, hookers, pimps, drunks, rich, poor, homosexuals and all walks life. pope Francis is leading people into a one world religion and will become a the False Prophet of the end times. Sorry they have captured you thoughts and idea’s, I pray for people like you each night. God Bless and Shalom:

          • phil62

            AMEN!

          • beeta

            Thank you for that truth… If the foolish Do not recoginize their state of lost they are doomed to an eternity in hell.Only a fool says in his heart there is not God.. We are hear for a purpose to put down sin created by Satan.. God is going to raise to him a perfect people and NO one else. Those are the people who will follow his commandments and do his will and NOT THEIR own in this sinful world.. Be wrong and be left , be right and go to live with God.. The choice is laid out for all mankind to make.. I choose to serve God and spend eternity with him..,

          • madmemere

            Pray we have NOT seen the “Last Pope”, at least, not in our time.

          • Where did the word or title “POPE” come from???? Can’t find it in Scriptures…..

          • madmemere

            You are correct, it did not come from the Scriptures. Do some research and I think you’ll find it originated with the Disciple Peter; the word itself originates in the Greek word for “papa”, or, in this case, Father, meaning Father of the Church. There’s a lot more to it, but that’s the shortest explanation I can give you.

          • nimvin

            Well said, Mark. The Apostle Paul, the guy who actually wrote the New Testament, said that he hesitated even to judge his own self!! Judging others’ hearts is one of the biggest no-nos in the bible. Romans says: “For that which I would, I do not. And the thing which I would not, that I do…..” LOL!!! Sound familiar?? No way to get out of being a messy, imperfect human.

            BTW, I’m personally hoping for beer and pizza with Peter (who I imagine as being kinda like Jack Nicholson) when I get to heaven – AND I want to look really, really good in a bikini. LMAO!!!

          • Mark Clemens

            …….Smiling back attcha

          • phil62

            I think what foxxy is trying to say is that the Catholic religion, which of course is controlled by the Popes is not all it claims to be and misleads a lot of people. 1. NO human being can forgive you of your sins (absolve) 2. Mary is not our Savior and Jesus said to pray and look ONLY to Him for that job 3. The Pope stands in for God here on earth???? That would mean he is more important than Jesus. NO ONE can stand in GODS place. OH and 4. If you get excommunicated (thrown out) of the Catholic religion you will automatically burn in hell forever. Now just exactly where in the Bible does it say that????

          • beeta

            That would be setting himself up on earth as God. NO one can forgive you of your sins except the man that died on the cross for your sins.. For this reason he will not be in heaven and there is only one man that is holy and that is God. Pope is an earthly man that man has set up on a pedestal that God does not recognize.. He recognizes his son only. not man! We are told in the bible that people are judged by their fruits.. This we can see as our daily lives play out. If you are not living a life unto God clean and pure your fruits will bear witness of your life before the world .By this you are judged by man according to God’s word. The catholic church is sending millions of people to hell by having them to repent to him and him stating to them they are forgiven go say 100 hail marys.. Only Christ can forgive you.NO MAN on earth can do that. God said that NO MAN can come to the Father in Heaven except through his son Jesus.. That is pretty plain I think. No earthly man can be raised to the status of Christ.. The Catholic church is damning people to hell with their doctrine..And by the way you are not to pray to statues or Mary… They are dead and have no power… If they followed Gods commandments for that day and time their soul and spirit is in heaven but have NO power.. Same with Mary. She was a vessel used by God to bear the son of God. She gets to heaven the same way others did at the time.. A sinless life..No sin will enter heaven. Christ was the only sinless man that lived on this earth.. The cross is the only way to God.. Repentance to Christ our heavenly Father…Don’t be fooled by man made doctrine.. Read the word of God for the truth..

          • Mark Clemens

            The word of God was written by man. Y’all shouldn’t judge, it’s wrong, and it’s only Jehovah’ s place to judge the righteous and the damned, not yours. You may have mistaken the word by accident and damn others. If I were you, I’d leave the judging to God, and keep my opinions to myself.

          • Uzoozy

            I understand that the Jewish people do not believe in after life. So no heaven.
            Shalom

          • foxxybey

            Many people around the world don’t believe in a after life, wow, will they ever be shocked, many have died and came back and they swear there is a after life, one place good and the other hot, God Bless and Shalom;

          • beeta

            I have two stories that made me know without a doubt there is a heaven . when my mother died and when my father died. They left us with a message on their death bed that was undeniable to those witnessing it.. Nothing can take my faith in God. Or my knowing that they are in heaven and there definitely is a heaven and no doubt hell for there are accounts to be heard by NDE ‘s from people who died and were brought back to life . They are on the internet for all to read is sites dedicated to that subject. Many have gone to hell and it changed their lives. many atheist have died and went to hell and it changed their lives after they returned to life. Your doubt will get you hell …your belief in God will save you from Hell.

          • beeta

            They will when he returns to the mount of Olives and sets foot there.. They will see him and see he is the one they pierced in his side.. The jew has scales over their eyes . This happened when they denied Christ and the Gentile was given Salvation through the blood of Christ. If they read the whole bible they would see that he is the messiah they are waiting to come.. He will come at the end of tribulation to rescue his people from the attackers all over the world. Israel will stand alone in that time. Christ and the raptured saints will come back there to do battle with the enemies of Israel and spare his people of destruction. He and the saints will slay the enemies at he battle of armmegadon.. (sp) The Jews will realize then they were wrong and will turn to him . They will fall to their knees and call him lord their messiah. Most Jews are receive Christ today. They will go in the rapture and be in heaven with Christ for the 7 yr tribulation. all saints who except Christ and follow his word will be raptured in death and in life no matter the race.

          • Uzoozy

            This passage seems to imply that if you do not believe in Jesus you are in trouble.
            Jesus Christ was a messenger of God, he came to preach good things in the world.’
            He was crucified but he did not die on the cross ,
            Who so ever prays t/worships ONE God will have salvation, He is the forgiver cherisher of mankind. Do good and go to heaven.
            Simple message.

          • Not true…..

          • You understand wrong…..

          • beeta

            Those in heaven will not work ,per se, . We will have heavenly bodies of spirit and soul..that is if we die before he returns and you are a child of God . At the rapture we go back to the grave where we go back into our body where it is glorified . Our earthly thoughts will not be in heaven.
            Those living when he returns rise to meet him in glorified bodies. A serious situation for eternity.. not a joke unless you think burning in hell for eternity is a joke… Do not mock God..

          • Uzoozy

            It is not that complicated, do good and pray to God and you get to go to heaven.

          • Christ said: “If you would enter into Life, “Keep The Commandments”!!!….. Do good & pray???….What is “good”???…..

          • Uzoozy

            If you keep the first commandment, There is one God, you will do good to yourself.

          • Yehoshuafriend

            Isa 65:21 ” They shall build houses and inhabit them; They shall plant vineyards and eat their fruit.
            22 They shall not build and another inhabit; They shall not plant and another eat; For as the days of a tree, so shall be the days of My people, And My elect shall long enjoy the work of their hands. 23 They shall not labor in vain, Nor bring forth children for trouble; For they shall be the descendants of the blessed of the LORD, And their offspring with them.” Shabbat shalom!

          • foxxybey

            In context that will happen during the Jewish Kingdom on earth and that hasn’t arrived as yet, if you think so give me the time that it happened? I know the history of Israel pretty well and can’t think of a time that your quotes took place but, I’m waiting for the day that they will and that is coming soon, God Bless and Shalom:

          • Yehoshuafriend

            Yes it is future. Shabbat shalom!

          • beeta

            But the messiah has already come.. You deny the one true messiah..Yes in the future you will see him , the one you denied and fall down and worship him.. FACT. bible FACT

          • Uzoozy

            Keep on waiting and waiting and waiting. Nothing will happen.
            They call it fools paradise.

          • foxxybey

            If they knew God and His Word they wouldn’t think the way they do, that is for everyone who doesn’t have a relationship with Him. God Bless and Shalom:

          • Uzoozy

            Keep on waiting, nothing is going to happen.
            Shalom

          • Uzoozy

            Horse sh…

          • beeta

            This was God dealing with the Jew in the Old testament.. The new testament is for today for it offers Salvation through Christ who the Jew rejected. Yes we are all decendants of God for we are made by his hands.. Jew and Gentile.. But the Gentile recognizes that Jesus is the Messiah and our salvation. The hope of the Jew and Gentile is to except the salvation of Christ to be raptured to Glory with him or be left to go through the Tribulation as discussed in Daniel and Revelations.. The Jew has a mind set because of the scales placed on their eyes at the death of Christ.. It will be removed when they see him return and fall at his feet and repent for their sins against him.. I love the Jew.. but they have missed the messiah .. the only true messiah . The old bible they follow tells of Christ coming in many places. It. DEscribes Jesus perfectly. and told of the path he would take to crucifiction. They will one day see the truth… I love them just as Christ loves them also…

          • Religion should die, not God.

            Your a idiot.

          • foxxybey

            And you don’t know God so go jump in a lake somewhere. I agree religion should die but, what religion have I mentioned that has your shorts in knots? I referred to a false religion and not mine by the grace of the real God.

          • beeta

            No your are wrong.. Foxxybey knows the word of God.. He is right on..Study to show yourself approved..

          • kcruzette7

            What’s your point? How do those scriptural references null and void what I just wrote you?

          • Scott M Sykes

            and that is relevant to your first question about Scripture and where we go when we die how?
            Acts
            1:7-11
            New King James Version (NKJV)
            7 And He said to them, “It is not for you to know times or
            seasons which the Father has put in His own authority. 8 But
            you shall receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you; and you shall
            be witnesses to Me[a] in
            Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth.”
            Jesus
            Ascends to Heaven
            9 Now when He had spoken these things, while they watched, He
            was taken up, and a cloud received Him out of their sight. 10 And
            while they looked steadfastly toward heaven as He went up, behold, two men
            stood by them in white apparel, 11 who also said, “Men of
            Galilee, why do you stand gazing up into heaven? This same Jesus, who
            was taken up from you into heaven, will so come in like manner as you saw Him
            go into heaven.”

            and as far as your second scripture reference?

            Romans
            11:33-36
            New King James Version (NKJV)
            33 Oh, the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge
            of God! How unsearchable are His judgments and His ways past finding
            out!
            34 “For who has known the mind of the Lord?
            Or who has become His counselor?”[a]
            35 “Or who has first given to Him
            And it shall be repaid to him?”[b]
            36 For of Him and through Him and to Him are all things,
            to whom be glory forever. Amen.
            Truthfully I tell you this, that you Stealthfighter are just a name dropper and ignorant of the Word of God. You perceive not for your spirit is not with the Lord’s. To truly understand and be given revelation one must actually sit down and spend time with God. You dear boy, do not. And as so many people today have shown just how ignorant and belligerent you are of God’s word. I hope and pray for your sake that you actually take time to read and understand God’s word.

          • USAGunsmith

            What if that light at the end of the tunnel and everyone standing around you welcoming you is you being pushed out a vagina and being born again. Just another perspective.

        • beeta

          Excellent !

        • Uzoozy

          So complicated man written horse s…..
          Pray to the Lord of the world and be blessed.

      • Roger Mills

        Don’t worry Stealthy, someone will show up real quick with “Proof” from the bible. Now about Noah.

      • Opinari

        Questions are not offensive. How else do we find out answers or information (even when we are not happy about what we learn). John 14:2 indicates that Christ was going to prepare a place for us…

      • phil62

        Yes it does, Revelation tells us that after the reign of the antichrist Jesus will come back in full power for 1000 years. During the 1,000 years the earth will be totally cleansed of all sin and made perfect for God and that is when God will bring Heaven to earth and both will be united into one. “…Heaven and earth shall be as one… What will you do in Heaven? Anything and everything you have never been able to do here on this present earth. For myself; I love animals and I will be able to love on and be with all the animals that God has ever created. Again: read Revelation as many times as it takes for you to see and understand what Jesus said God has in store for us. Bottom Line: what difference does it make exactly what we will be doing? I know for certain I won’t be doing what the people in hell are doing. God Bless

      • tk-atty

        I don’t find someone asking a question to be offensive. When Jesus was dying on the cross to pay the sin penalty of all people, beside him was two thieves being crucified. The one mocked Jesus, but the other looked at Jesus and knowing that he was a just man, and at that time the Christ, said Lord have mercy on me, and Jesus said” Today you will be with me in paradise.’ Jesus also taught that in heaven there were many mansions prepared for his people, as well as I go to prepare a place for you. Please read the NKJV New Testament, Jesus did talk about Heaven but he talked much more about hell, because he does not want any to perish, but is our choice, God gave us free will. Jesus is not like the false god/satan allah who forces conversion, he does not have to. His sheep hear his voice and follow after him. Also, please look at how much Jesus reaffirms the old testament during his speaking about the times of Noah, etc. Jesus came to fulfill the law of the old testament, but as Christians we are not under the law, but live under the grace and mercy of Jesus Christ.

      • daledor

        “Set before you this day is the path of life and the path of death — choose life and live.” We create our own destiny by whether we accept or reject God when He deals with us. It is our way or His way. Our way separates us from God and mankind. God’s way, Jesus, unities us with God and others (unless they are evil and defy God – then a godly person is rejected). Choose life and live. All who believed and trusted God will pass through the gate Jesus. When confronted with the purity of God when we encounter Jesus we will run towards the light or be afraid. The fearful condemn themselves. The godly will know Jesus and love Him and not be afraid because they received the truth God revealed to them and did not reject it. All who ever entered Heaven and ever will must go through the gate – Jesus.

      • Oldlady25

        uhhh…to which religion are you referring? Christianity? Take a look in the New Testament, friend.

    • Roger Mills

      Hello… repeating the nonsense in the bible doesn’t make it any more true. I love being “threatened” by the “believers” and their tales of bad dudes hiding in the pews. Satan is the boogyman for grownups who stopped wondering about the world and choose myth to be comfortable. (He’s under your bed right now.)

      • kcruzette7

        There is always some little kind of pest nagging at good conversation. Where’s your ability to have sound discussion?

        • Consultant

          You’re statement is so Valid. Roger Mills, is a person that is skewed to criticism of all Christianity.
          Roger has no direct knowledge relating to any of his rants. He’s the same person that would support the siege against Christians, more than likely Voted for Obama….So I will ask him, How’s that Change working for you Roger?

      • None Of Yourbusiness

        Who threatened you asshole?? Fucking trolls, you just need a good ass beating …..

        • Lougjr1

          Hey business man, you just don’t know it but you designed your password to pass through the gates of Hell. you can now add yourself to the Hell family !!

      • jim_wright

        How about taking your athist nonsense somewhere else and let the grown ups continue our discussion. I really get tired of athist who just have to try to force their nonsense on everyone else.

      • Consultant

        Ah, Roger, alas, you reap what you sow….Your cynicism, sarcasm, and criticism, all relate to your inability to allow others to believe as they wish. You have nothing you have offered that would indicate there is no GOD. All you have is your Rhetoric, rhetoric with no foundation or fact.
        As for me; I have experienced contact with the Divine, I choose to call GOD. I’ve been at Death’s Door on several occasions, while serving my country. I’ve experienced that feeling of being alone at what could have been my last moments. Suddenly as I drifted towards that reality, the Presence of GOD was there, his letting me know, by his way in a voice, internally that said, I already have, there is a time to Live and a time to Die, Breathe, Breathe, like you’ve never before, soon this will pass…This occurred while I was in a Coma. Then while in a serious situation in a very dangerous part of the world, again, he showed me the Light of way to escape into safer surroundings.
        Oh, sure, you’ll have more to say Roger, but we really have to pray for you, as Christ once said; “Forgive Them Father, for they know not what they do”
        You probably should be looking under your bed, you may be feeling the Heat of Hell.
        Then we all must ask; Roger, what have you done for your Fellow Man, your Country or for that matter for anyone but yourself? Are you so embroiled in Hate, Distrust and lack of Faith, all you can do is criticize others for theirs? Christianity, for Christ is your Savior too.

        • DR

          Amen, very well put and thank you for your testimony of truth.

        • jcdfms

          I have had my prayers answered many times. The Holy Ghost speaks to me, Mostly when I’m about to think of doing something bad. We are told from the bible to ask, if the person we ask, is not interested in hearing the Gospel. We are told to leave that person, shake the dust off out shoes and keep no company with those who don’t accept the Holy Ghost. “Not keeping company with” is not the same as hating any person. We are told to love everyone no matter, My personal opinion of those who do not believe is that (And this is only my thought’s, you can take it or leave it) but I think people that don’t believe are afraid of what they do not understand.

      • Lougjr1

        Hey roger, you just recited the password to pass through the gates of hell, keep it up because you will have plenty of friends there !

      • DR

        Again Roger with your claim to the Bible being nonsense, you must disregard everything that has come from it as factual, hence your claim is you are not a human nor do you ever make sacrifices.

      • jcdfms

        I’ll pray for you Roger.

      • splooshman

        Sorry you feel so threatened by Christians Roger. As for Satan I can tell you from personal experience he’s very real and scary as… well, you know. The problem here is everyone attacking each other for believing one way or another. Yet true Liberty let’s me be me without interference or persecution from you, and vice versa, so long as what we do is lawful and socially moral/ethical. Christianity can be summed up in the golden rule…”Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.” Peaceful co-existence and respect for the rights of others regardless of our differences. That’s the crux of the Constitution as well, having been founded on Judeo-Christian Principles. So, you believe what you want, and I’ll believe what I want and leave it at that. Someday though, you’re going to realize something is missing in your life. When you do, pick up the Bible and read the New Testament. You’ll find a whole lot of common sense in it.

        • Opinari

          I have always thought the Golden Rule sums it up. You cannot go wrong following it. Too bad those, who do not believe as you, feel the need to convert others to their disbeliefs.

    • omegaman

      DonRL — Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, ad nausea, puke.

      • Lougjr1

        omegaman, you don’t it but your statement is nothing more than the password to pass through the gates of Hell !!

        • nimvin

          OMFG – STFU you moron. Quite soaking your head in the Old Testament and read the New one for a change. “there is therefore now no condemnation…” “all things are lawful, but not all things are expedient…” “hast thou faith? Have it to thyself before God.”
          I could go on and on all day, but I won’t cast my pearls before swine. It’s a shame that I must call “Lougjr1” who is apparently my Christian brother/sister, a “swine” in the biblical sense, but I do believe it applies here. READ ROMANS you lazy idiot, and quit being mind-controlled by a denominational pastorate whose only goal is keeping ITSELF going with YOUR money so it can build more churches and control more lives. Do your own thinking for a change.

          • splooshman

            Gee NIMVIN, that was such great Christian response. I’m wondering what you know about pearls at this point. Somehow, I doubt this is the kind of response Jesus what endorse. Lougirl1’s response isn’t any a better. If you’re going to defend the Christian faith, do it with a Christ-like attitude and behavior. Otherwise you’re simply providing the contention Satan wants of you.

          • Lougjr1

            Hey nimvin, you are obviously not my Christian brother. your use of expletives leads me to believe that you are beyond the benefit of prayer !

          • nimvin

            My use of expletives? Really? So if I say a “dirty” word or express a point in a strong manner, this leads you to believe I’m “beyond the benefit of prayer?” Where is that idea in the bible? Can you give me chapter and verse please?? So you are apparently accustomed to withholding prayer as an expression of your spite?? I’ll tell you something, brother. Your smugness is an affront to Christ. You should be ashamed of yourself. You need to actually READ your bible and learn what exactly constitutes a “brother” in Christ and who is and is not “beyond the benefit of prayer.” Meanwhile, I WILL be praying for YOU to get your shit together.

    • countryfarmlady

      PERSONALY I pray to god the father and his son Jesus

    • alclown

      I say excellent DonRL . Very well written I never knew it or put it together as you did so well . I am going to save it and use it . You know you have these people no matter what you write they will find fault with it maybe they don’t agree with it out of ignorance or they are lost . Keep writing Brother you did very well you educated me or opened my eyes . Proud to have you as my brother in Jesus Christ .

      • DonRL

        Thanks so much for your kind encouragement. It is greatly appreciated.
        We need to encourage one another – as we see the day approaching.
        Keep the faith. Be faithful unto the end and receive a full reward.

    • DR

      Amen and well said!

      • DonRL

        Thanks for your kind words they are encouraging.

    • jcdfms

      Thank you, Well said, And even though we may not look it EVERY person on earth has some Jewish blood or ancestry.

    • john millican

      It is hilarious to see all these naysayers trying to denigrate you, but in doing so, PROVE your point

      • DonRL

        Yes John God’s word is true and reliable as as you say it proves itself by the reaction to it.
        When you base your thinking and your life on what God says the outcome proves it to be God’s word.
        He is ever faithful to those who trust in Him.
        Thanks for your insight and reply!

  • adrianvance

    Can Santa Claus be far behind?

    Google “Two Minute Conservative” and when you speak they will salute.

    • disqus_pNhkHlXhCQ

      It is sure hard to follow some of these posts.

    • Roger Mills

      Ah. Santa. Now theres a good god.

  • Frederick Fargher

    A show that portrays the first black Jesus as a sinful, foul-mouthed, sick, twisted, evil, nasty & funky PUKE must be so popular because our first black President is even more of a foul, sick, twisted, evil, nasty, & funky PUKE than he is!!! WHOOP, THERE IT IS!!!

    • Uzoozy

      One thing is for sure Jesus was not white with flowing blond hair. He had curled hair and kept a beard.

      • ladyhenry

        You saw Him?

        • disqus_pNhkHlXhCQ

          Uzoozy, if for no other reason, you lose all respect of what you say because you have no clue what Jesus looked like other then what is portrayed in pictures and there are many different pictures of him. It does not matter if he has blond, black, brown, red or green hair or whether he had any hair at all. He is our one and only Jesus.

          • Roger Mills

            That’s right. He was Mexican. And for the past two thousand years he’s been doing NOTHING but trying to sneak into other’s lives and live off their money. Just ask the Tpots with their guns on the Texas border.

          • kcruzette7

            Be not deceived God is not mocked…He laughs w/derision at the ‘fools who mock Him and His ways, ..After all He and only He determines the end for all…and you get that by your choice…..

          • Uzoozy

            I do not agree with you I guarantee if Jesus was black no one would pray to him, you cannot stand a black president who is doing a great job.

        • Roger Mills

          I did. He was in a Mormon temple. Tall, white with long hair and a beard, like a Norwegian lumberjack. Myths are so much fun. But let’s not kill each other over this nonsense.

        • Uzoozy

          Christian scholars say that. Please do not be sarcastic.
          Jesus was a great prophet a simple humble person and used to move around on a donkey.

      • David in MA

        Jesus was a Jew, so would you not think he has a “family” resemblance to the Jews?
        He taught the TORAH… Not “Christianity”
        Christianity is the outcome of the Conference at Necia in 425 at the direction of the Emperor Constanople, some even think the Emperor Constanople’s mother had a lot to do with the “finalization” of Christianity……..
        Jesus was a dark haired bronze skinned person…..and definitely more white than black. Blacks are the descendants of Cain. …….ever heard the name ben Pantera?

        • Roger Mills

          Jesus Jewish?? Don’t be silly. If he were he’d have a big nose, kinky hair and short with glasses. He’s tall, cute, long hair like the bands in the 80’s. Rock on!

          • You must be bored……Carry on.

          • Uzoozy

            Says who jesus was a jew , short curly hair and definately no blue eyes and no blond hair

    • disqus_pNhkHlXhCQ

      There is only one Jesus, whether he be black, white, brown or purple, he is the one and only and he is all good, pure,. kind, loving and merciful.

      • Roger Mills

        No pN, I think we should decide what he looked like. Makes the story telling more… real? and Frederick, that’s not very Christian-Judeo of you. What a bunch of kooks here. I love it. Purple Jesus? I’m down with that.

  • Sephtis8

    The show is disgusting and Christians are rightly angry at the nature of this show. But, of course, there will not be riots from us. Why? Because through Christ, the REAL Christ and not the disgrace on this program, we are better than that. We do not harm our fellow brothers and sisters just because we are angry. Vengeance belongs to God, not to us.

    • disqus_pNhkHlXhCQ

      I have not seen this movie and do not intend to, but from what I am hearing it sounds like they are putting black people down. Isn’t that racist? Jesus is a Jew and he could be black in skin color, but he is not associated with garbage.

    • Roger Mills

      Yeah! Let’s riot like Jesus would!! KILL KILL KILL…. oops. Wait a minute. It’s a tv show. Not a REAL VENGEFUL GOD! They are in the movies. People are so nasty to each other. Guess it’s the Christian thing to do.

  • barb patton

    I wonder how many “Cackas” are watching this trashy show?

    • disqus_pNhkHlXhCQ

      HUH?????

  • Never heard of the show and don’t care to. Why a “Black” Jesus??? What’s next? A Chinese Jesus???? Totally STUPID title to a STUPID show (I suspect)…If people really KNEW who JESUS (The Living Christ) was, (Yesterday, Today and Forever)…They would totally change their tune and show nothing but the utmost respect!!! But, that will come at a future date…People will become very thankful that He “Forgives & Forgets”……

    • disqus_pNhkHlXhCQ

      Only those who have ask forgiveness and accept Christ as their Savior will be thankful. Everyone has that chance and one day they will either be beyond happy or completely devastated and separated from God forever.

    • Roger Mills

      Yeah that’s right. JESUS is white darn it! Chinese??? Just Totally STUPID. STUPID, STUPID… oops, ran out of capital letters. And you better hope he doesn’t fry your butt for not believing! I am so scared for most of you, cause you don’t believe what I believe and that’s STUPID! (Found a few more capitals on the floor of my truck… oh look, a doobie, cool._

  • kcruzette7

    This show isn’t going to last. People watched it out of curiosity…It has no holding power. The ‘shock’ value that keeps springing up through these networks is so predictable.

    • Roger Mills

      Oh what about those Duck boys in the swamp? They be good Christians too. (but I wonder about bearded men spending so much time together in the garage) Sort of creepy.

  • DCW16

    Jesus never commanded an army, Mohammad did……….
    Jesus never ordered people to be killed, Mohammed did……….
    Jesus never banished other religions from the land, Mohammed did……….
    Jesus never ordered amputation, binding or torture, Mohammed did……….
    Jesus did not have 11 wives, Mohammed did……….
    Jesus did not take his stepson’s wife, Mohammed did……….
    Jesus did not order the assassination of his critics, Mohammed did……….
    Jesus did not terrorize unbelieving tribes, Mohammed did……….
    Jesus did not ask a father if he could marry his 6 year old daughter when he was 53, Mohammed did……….
    Jesus saved an adulterer from stoning, Mohammed reintroduced it……….
    Jesus was a teacher and healer, Mohammed was a warlord and conquerer.

    Christians don’t riot because they are Civilized . . . in times of Conflict, ALWAYS side with the Civilized Man !

    • Roger Mills

      Good get the blame thing figured out here. Now about the Noah thing. Really 600 years old and took all the animals with him. Ah, maybe that’s where all this use of poop words got started. That boat would have had load full.

      • drattastic

        Sounds like you wasted your money on a bad movie .

      • Kim Marsch

        Why do we quibble over theology?/it’s all made up by men trying to avoid The Holy One’s Covenant! If we don’t worship The Great King Yah the way He proscribed and revealed through Moses and Yeshua came to restore– then we are clueless! Aren’t you tired of religion and preacher’s telling us how to be saved!!!! All they focus on is the milk which is the salvation message!!!! For the faithful to the great King Yahw-h, Heaven will be on earth and Yeshua will be the vassel king to His Father Yahw-h. He will rule and reign. And those who are not keeping faithful to Yahw-h’s covenant are not going to get there! I think it’s called weeping and nashing of teeth. Heaven forbid.
        Bottom line… who do you serve? Who do you walk with? If it’s religion ànd what your pastor is telling you and what you learn on Sunday then you are not serving The Holy One of Israel. Keep His Covenant (you’ll find it in the Old Testament-the bible of Yeshua and his disciples) and He will be pleased with you and deliver you.
        Yes YOU are SAVED by faith and faith requires your faithfulness to the Covenant of Yahw-h. Repent. I pray that all of us as believers who know Yeshua repent…and may we not have the sword and plague and pestilence come to this country. Not my will but Yours Great King Yahw-h. Shalom.
        May what You have revealed to all in Your Scriptures be obvious to all who are trusting in You.

      • DCW16

        If you knew anything about the ancient earth . . . you would know that plants and animals got to be very large. It has been proven that the content of the atmosphere was quite different, more oxygen, more CO2 etc. Where do you think ALL the Fossil Fuels came from?
        is it possible that in Noah’s day this atmosphere was still present?
        Was it possible that many of the animals were infants?
        Is it possible that Roger does not have a clue?

    • drattastic

      Give mohammad a little credit he waited till that little girl was 9 yrs old before he consummated the marriage , you see he was no savage . (sarcasm)

      • Uzoozy

        They marry girls 3 years snd one day in Usa.

    • Uzoozy

      These are bigoted view of Chtistians .
      Don’t wwasre your time bro

  • David in MA

    Another BS story.
    When will the black people understand the children of light and the children of darkness?

    • Roger Mills

      Yeah! Uh… watcho saying Willis?

    • Which child are you???

      • David in MA

        A child of the Creator and Heavenly Father through human propagation, and you?

  • DenverKitty

    God will do something to this pos who dares to defame Jesus.

  • drattastic

    I’m going out on a limb here and say that Jesus looked just like the rest of the Semitic people of his era , no different than they do today . He wasn’t Anglo or Negro .

    • You are probably right… The Great Prophet Isaiah spoke/prophesied of Him….”He hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see Him, there is no beauty that we should desire Him”. “He is despised and rejected of men; A man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief; and we hid as it were “our” faces from Him”; “He was despised, and we esteemed Him not”……Isa 53….Totally different picture than man’s “made up” picture……..

      • drattastic

        Had he looked of a different race I think the authors of the scrolls that made up the Bible would have noticed , especially his disciples.

    • Uzoozy

      Did zNOT HAVE BLUE EYES

  • subee7

    Wouldn’t sand too close to them…lightening might get you too……. “God will not be mocked”

  • Geri D

    Haven’t seen the show. Wouldn’t watch it anyway. Sounds like another brainless tool being used to appeal to the low life stupid people to encourage more stupidity and sheeple as only Hollywood can. The most scary part is that the idiots who watch these shows vote.

  • htbalive

    All the arguments aside, fact is it’s not Christians who are beheading children. It’s not Christians who are torturing people who choose not to convert to their beliefs. If you don’t believe in God, I’m sorry for you. But I don’t want to kill you. If you choose to be an atheist, fine. However, the people who want to kill all Westerners could care less about your beliefs or disbeliefs. If you don’t wish to convert to their beliefs, they want to kill us all. My question is even if you don’t believe in the Bible, even if you’re not a Christian, what are you going to do, what are going to say to them whenever these terrorists decide to come after you, and people like you? “I don’t believe in God…or Alah”??? Regardless, they will summarily off your head! As countrymen, Christian and non-Christian alike, we need to stand against tyranny in all its shapes, forms, and colors!!! We may not all get along. I’m not advocating that we just all get along. What I am advocating is that despite our differences it’s time we all stood up together and fight our common enemies and not continue fighting each other! Please!!!

  • Religion should die, not God.

    Uhm… Jesus was pretty much black… he wasnt white. He was more… of a olive/dark tan. This is why the Christian religion is falling, the ignorance, hatred, and retardation it carries, is why people hate you. When america was founded… it founded on freedom of speech, religious rights and freedom of persecution. Good job christians… you get butt hurt over little things. Drop a pair and learn to laugh.

  • Religion should die, not God.

    One more thing, keep repeating scriptures that dont betray christ. The catholic church destroyed actuall documents that he wrote… yet you read the bible… that was twisted by man… open your eyes… go after real problems… not some show thats funny.

  • Religion should die, not God.

    Freedom from persecution*

  • AlRetd

    According to BO whites and Christians don’t have a 1st Amendment right to riot or protest. They will be arrested for breaking the law.

  • laudvette

    Be sure to stay tuned for “The White Martin Luther King Jr ” . James 1:6/ Romans 14:23/

  • david b cordick

    i am not very religious, i have a sorta little bit of my own beliefs, but i just wanted to make the statement or comment to the people that are expressing their non belief in religion. now as retired military, with plenty of time in combat zones, and have lived a long life and seen many things. it has been my experience that everyone, male and female discover when things are looking really bad, and im not talking about wrecking the car and such, i mean when life is in jeporady. be it themselves or a part of their family, especially when it is a child. then all of a sudden they discover that they do have some religion, praying to god for help and mercy, to save or cure their loved one. and dont forget the old saying, there are no athiest in foxholes

  • QuisPercusit

    “Black Jesus “?? sounds like revisionist liberal NWO fantasy worth zero minutes of Warholian fame.

  • Cranky Steven

    *yawn* WGAS?

  • DR

    Unable to find the time to read all of this discussion, however, it’s not my first rodeo. I will assume I have a good understanding of what has been discussed and reply to all that even Jesus Christ who was the perfect teacher, perfected in his love for all man kind was unable to find all men believing in him. See, free agency is key, all men must choose to follow Jesus Christ to obtain eternal life or choose to not follow Christ. Here is what is interesting… imagine thousands of years from now you too were a God, even as God is today, could you not then say that by following God today we are actually following our very own council? Perhaps God’s commandments, even to obey him, is our voice telling us to humble ourselves to something greater than us all and once we do then we can truly become like God. This may help you who do not believe in God to lose your pride in having to obey someone else other than yourself. Perhaps you will obey God if you know you have and had a say in the commandments that are given.

  • jcdfms

    Jesus isn’t black, Jesus is from the seed of the tribe of Juda, Etheopoian’s (or black people) are from the tribe of DAN. This is probably why God told his 12 tribes if Israel NOT to marry from into each other tribe.

  • nimvin

    QUOTE: “Black Jesus…..has little place in a society where religious tolerance is celebrated.”

    Uh, excuse me, but that is a totally contradictory statement, . A show like “Black Jesus” exists because we actually DO live in a society that respects religious tolerance.

    I was born and raised a Christian and have remained devout my entire life. Frankly, I’m sick and tired of mealy mouth, legalistic “hell-fire” types usurping the message of my faith. If any of these “fundamentalists” actually STUDIED the fundamentals of Christianity, they would probably be laughing their collective a$$es off at this show, as indeed I am. It’s funny, edgy, irreverent, utterly crazy, and oddly thought-provoking – just like Jesus pretty much was during his time on earth. Truth be told, the reason why posters like “omegaman” and “Roger Mills” below have no respect for mainstream Christianity is mostly because mainstream Christianity hasn’t earned their respect by reflecting its own TRUE tennants. Instead, Christians go around mouthing legalistic pablum and Victorian moralism, threatening hell and damnation to anyone who perceives the bald-face ironies resident within their joyless, soul-killing teachings. I’ve spent my entire adult life trying to undo the damage done by the church to people who actually ARE interested in knowing the truth and have been blind-sided by well-intentioned but ignorant dolts. To all my fellow Christians out there – GET WITH THE FRIGGIN’ PROGRAM. James 3:17 doesn’t mention frying in hell for drinking a 40-ounce. Jesus had a sense of humor and so should YOU.

  • splooshman

    I’m shocked and disgusted by the responses some of you have posted proclaiming to be Christians while spewing filthy language, name calling, and accusing each other for your beliefs or lack thereof. By doing that, you’re only acting as disciples of Satan rather than Christ. And he loves you for it… and is laughing at your ignorance and un-Christian behavior. That’s exactly what he wants you to do. Shame on you all.

  • daledor

    I do not look at Jesus with any color reference. It is stupid to say black or white, based on the society and historical records Jews at that time seldom crossed races unless others became Jews. Being in a very arid/dry and sunny area, Jesus probably was well tanned and who knows may have been darker but was not African probably. If He was, who really cares. I doubt the show is very scriptural and don’t doubt that it is race oriented vs God oriented.

    How about this – Jesus was the Son of God, God created all colors, Jesus did not embrace or focus on color but on saving mankind from sin so we could go to Heaven. He illustrated the character of God since He was God’s Son. He loved everybody and was interested in them not their color. Get the story right, don’t let idiots make a political football out of Jesus – He loves ALL mankind that He created.

  • adrianvance

    May we count the ways major media have of screwing with us?

    Google “Two Minute Conservative” for great ideas clearly presented.

  • Black Panther trait use of a Black Jesus. Truth and light? Not black. Cain and Able encounter, the “curse” of CAIN disputes this so the BIBLE is NOT on your side. Second brother on this earth CAIN hated the first born of Adam and Eve, ABLE so wickedly he killed him. First born in pre-earth life Jesus, 2nd Lucifer. I didn’t write history, but I have studied it. Josephus, a merchant, wrote about this man Jesus and there is no reference to Jesus of Nazareth, a Nazarine being black. Long hair yes. Historically an anti-Christ position as to a black Jesus. I have had a very dated old copy of Josephus writings handed down to me. Yes, Jesus was Large in stature. Stood out in a crowd a head above others; but not black skinned nor protruding lips of a negroid. Thus the extra “spike” in his wrists historical. The weight of an ordinary man one spike would not hold His weight and many art renditions add a “step” to support his broken legs another part of the crucifixion process. He was from the lineage of David, a JEW. Thus the Ruth chapter in the Bible. Only ministered to the Jew. I suppose, some desert dwelling Jew may have weathered skin, roaming the desert on a camel’s back; but not black negroid unlikely too to appear solid black. He wasn’t from Africa. He was not an African Negro. Dr. George C. Ritchie 1978 Return from Tomorrrow. A Christian who died, went toward the light and testfies of it.

  • ABBAsFernando

    Yet another example of SOVIET DISINFORMATION run amok.

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