• Frank B.

    Trump = Lucifer. Witness the multiple hurricanes, 3 earthquakes in North America, California wild fires… Multiple tsunamis and earthquakes all over the planet. On the brink of nuclear war! This satanic bastard has brought death & destruction to the world. And YOU deplorables– WILL BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE for putting Lucifer in the White House!

    • April Williams

      WOW, you really need help. No one in PR is dying because of President Trump. President Trump is a God send and he is a breath of fresh air. I voted for Obama and let me tell you what he was the worse President that this country has ever seen. Me and millions of democrats voted for Trump and from the looks of it, the difference between us and you is we were willing to do our research, face the facts and hear the truth. You are so brain washed that you can not see the truth, so crawl back into your little safe space with your binky & a blankey and wait for mommy to bring you your milk and cookies

      • Frank B.

        Then YOU & the “millions of democrats” who voted for Satan… Will be punished by God!

        • drantigmo

          You might be right.

          • Frank B.

            The so-called “christian bible”—– proves I am right!

      • Frank B.

        P.S. Since YOU are not in PR… Please forgive me if I call your assessment of whether or not people are dying… BULL SHIT!

        • Gary Jensen

          Frank, you do not seem to realize that this is a disaster, people are going to die, especially those that are not prepared.

      • Frank B.

        Trump is Lucifer in the flesh. He will continue to bring death & destruction to this country & the world. And if you voted for him– YOU will be held just as accountable for all of the misery that you have helped to create.

        • Faye Hayes

          Frank B- I agree with you 100%!!

      • drantigmo

        “President Trump is a God send” you think God would send a con-man, swindler, lying racist sexist traitor who hates people of color and anyone foreign??? Who uses religion as a cover to take health insurance away from working people?
        Man, you’re sick. Cheap electric bills means that much to you hater?

        • Yes, indeed, God sends whoever is most needed. God loves us and does what is best for us!

          • Faye Hayes

            Ray- If this is god’s idea of a joke, then he really put one over on The American People. God-1 American People- 0.

      • Ben Totuous

        You are dumber than a stump. God has nothing to do with Trump. The guy is a walking smasher of the 10 Commandments.

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    • drantigmo

      Let me say this: The last time mankind’s ego and pride lead to the Tower of Babel. Whereas God threw mankind into separation and conflict. Different colors, different languages…. we’re still suffering from the Tower of Babel.
      Then God flooded to wipe out the sinners, the greed, idol worshipers, sodomites…. said “Fire next time: wise up.”
      Now mankind is killing God’s planet, trying to become God by messing with DNA, using religion as a cover to murder, rape, blackmail and cause global suffering.
      Know what?
      Fire’s coming!

      • Frank B.

        Bottom Line: Trump = Lucifer!

        • President Trump has done marvelously good things for this nation already, with more planned for future days.

          • Frank B.

            Trump is a fucking moron. And calling him Lucifer… actually gives a bad name to satanist!

          • Frank B.

            Trump is a mother fucking idiot!

          • Faye Hayes

            Frank B- Trump is a mother fucking idiot!! I wonder if he grabbed her by the pu$$y first & then screwed her ? LOL!!

          • Frank B.

            I do t know what you are trying to say?

          • Ben Totuous

            Yet you can’t manage to say what he has done? Stop being a stooge.

    • tanya cummins

      100% behind you, Frank B. YOU are the only Christian in this thread.

      • Frank is NOT the only Christian writing here. There are several of us.

        • Faye Hayes

          Ray- You have my sympathy. LOL!!!

    • Kenneth Jones

      You, sir, are a certifiable nut case!

      • Frank B.

        Who the fuck are you.. To judge me? Dumb bastards like YOU, just put an ignorant racist satanic asshole in the White House, and your punk ass has the god damn nerve to call anyone else “certifiable”?!? Fuck you, you deplorable hypocrite Satan worshipper!

        • RightWriter

          Satanic? He goes to church MUCH more regularly than Obama ever did. The rest of your analysis is crap, too.

          • Frank B.

            Oh wow!! So– “trump goes to church”…Well I hate to tell you this, asshole– But Satan goes to church every Sunday! In fact Satan knows YOUR bible– better than YOU do! So to say that trump goes to church– pretty much just proves my case! Thanks asshole!

          • Frank B.

            You wanna know what is crap?!? Your lack of outrage as to the right wing terrorists who tried to blow up an airport in Ashvile NC, just a week ago! You hypocrite bastards are so full of shit!

            If it’s a white boy committing an act of terrorism– well that’s just fine by you god damn hypocrites! And don’t try to fucking say “oh I didn’t know about this”. Well now you do know, cracker– so where’s the outrage?!?

          • Gary Jensen

            Terrorists? Surely you jest? The man is either native American, it one of the indigenous Alaskan people. He acted alone, what he had for a bomb would probably never work as a bomb. You need yo know how to spell Asheville.

          • Frank B.

            One message per day from ignorant bastards like you! Just one!

          • Ben Totuous

            His membership in the Church Of Pussy Grabbing is going to land Trump in eternal fire and damnation.

          • David in MA

            Never happened, just “Locker Room talk”.

          • Gary Jensen

            Yes, braggadocio!

          • Ben Totuous
          • Faye Hayes

            Ben- DISGUSTING!! WHAT A POS we have in The White House. He wasn’t even POTUS when this happened. Is this the man that you Trump voters wanted to lead this country ? You got what you wished for. A PUSSY GRABBING PERVERT!!

          • Faye Hayes

            David in MA- Never Happened?? Are you that fucking stupid? It was on video, you idiot! I did try and fuck her. Please read Ben’s post down below. Trump’s statement is not saying he fantasized about doing these repulsive actions against women. He admitted that he did. Locker room talk my ass!!

          • Gary Jensen

            Trump never admitted to assaulting women, what he was talking about was nothing more than braggadocio, something many men do when they are together trying to one up the other. Trump said that he would try and do better, about the bragging.

          • Ben Totuous

            Jesus fuck are you a dope. He confessed with crossed t’s and dotted i’s. Victims came forward and he threatened them. He should have been arrested. Our legal system is fucked.

        • Gary Jensen

          Your intelligence level is showing.

          • Ben Totuous

            His intelligence is showing… Exponentially higher than your IQ, idiot.

          • Gary Jensen

            Want to make a wager?

          • Frank B.

            So is your lack thereof!

        • RightWriter

          Hey, Frank, CALM DOWN. You’re gonna bust a blood vessel in what passes for your brain.
          And you may think Trump is “ignorant” or a “racist” (neither is true, but they come under the rubric of FREE SPEECH — something conservatives STILL believe in, even though you left-wingers don’t! — but “SATANIC”??? If you really believe that, you’re clean out of what passes for your mind.

          • Frank B.

            Fuck you cracker.

    • niknar

      Trump did not cause all these things, but they are signs of what’s to come if we don’t take action to mitigate climate disruption, & Trump’s policies on the environment are designed to make it far worse. Also his divisive rhetoric inciting violence could very well have spurred some of the mass murders & increasing division in the US that will almost surely lead to civil strife, even civil war. His international policies are inflaming tensions around the world, increasing the possibility of nuclear war, isolating the US & making us an international pariah. His actions have been very destructive — on healthcare, on the environment, in international relations — & are all about destroying lives. He’s extremely unstable & a great danger to the world.

      • Gary Jensen

        The earth does not live in a bubble, Climate changes all the time depending what the core does, along with the moon and sun. There is always change, and as the polar poles change there will be a great deal of melting and flooding in the world.

        • niknar

          The Pleistocene & Holocene, the epochs in which man has evolved & thrived, have been characterized by periodic ice ages alternating with mild interglacial periods, which we’re in now. But now humans have altered the climate so much that geologists had to coin a new term to describe the epoch we’re in now: the Anhropocene, starting at the advent of the Industrial Age. We are now experiencing higher concentrations of greenhouse gases & higher temperatures in both our atmosphere & the oceans than man has ever experienced before, & it promises to only get worse at an accelerating rate unless & until we take strong action to curb greenhouse gases & man’s overall destruction of the environment.

          Sure, climate has changed often during Earth’s history, but rapid changes in climate, as we’re experiencing now, have always ended up in mass extinction. It is possible, even probable, that animal groups that evolved & survived through different, warmer climates than have existed in the past few millions of years could survive a rise of several degrees in the next hundred years or so, but it is highly unlikely that humans & most other mammals can. For certain, the vast majority of humans & other mammals (& probably vertebrates) will perish from such warming.

          • Gary Jensen

            I agree with some of what you wrote, however, CO2 has been more prevalent than it is now, at least twice previously. Over time earth tends to take care of itself. that we have made significant progress in contributing to them. Yes, there will be a significant number of people that will die long before human climate change will occur to the extent that it will take people’s lives. Where I live, the area has experienced colder temperatures the last four out of five years that I know about, at least since I have been paying attention.

          • niknar

            Yes, it has, long before humans & most extant mammals evolved. A sharp increase in CO2 &/or methane has also been associated with mass extinction, including the greatest one, the end Permian extinction.

            While overall, global climate has been getting warmer (the last 4 years are the 4 hottest years globally ever recorded), it has also become more unstable & extreme, & air & water currents & patterns have altered considerably. This means that some areas experience colder winters, which has been true, for example in the northeastern US, North Atlantic & northwestern Europe, & appears to be related to the polar vortex reaching much further southward in those areas than previously. In Oregon’s Willamette Valley where I live, the shortest & mildest winter we ever had was followed by the coldest spell I’ve experienced here (in December the following winter) since I came here at the end of 1979.

        • niknar

          Here are a few things to take into account while trying to
          determine the truth of the matter. First, keep in mind these principles: environmental health is directly correlated with personal health; rather than trying to control nature, which has gotten us the environmental disaster we face today, we need to learn to work with nature; water is far more valuable than oil or gas; trees are far more valuable than coal, or even gold, since we need water & trees simply to survive. If we abide by these truths, then we might have a chance to turn things around and keep this Earth habitable.

          Try to look at motivation. It is amply & demonstrably clear that
          fossil fuel companies (& other huge multinational corporations) have plenty of motive to do & say whatever it takes to make sure that they have the right to extract whatever they want to extract & to poison whatever & whomever in the process, to make the maximum amount of profit possible, and to avoid any taxes or restrictions, no matter the cost to the rest of the population. Their greed has shown no bounds. Just look at Koch, Exxon, Monsanto & Walmart, for example. It is much harder to attribute any comparable motive, though many have tried, to scientists & academics whose lifelong mission has been to discover & explain the truths about the universe & how things work (except where they’re tied with corporations, in which case they may toe the line of the corporatist climate deniers).

          Aside from that, if you are faced with these 4 outcomes:

          1) the scientific community is right & we take the necessary measures to alleviate climate change: it could be expensive in the short run, but we would safely overcome the challenges with minimal climate & environmental disruption, and the overall financial benefits compared to doing nothing are likely to be very positive in the long run. The money we put up front will have been an excellent investment.

          2) The scientific community is wrong but we take those measures, anyway: it would be expensive, but there’d be many other benefits we’d gain: much less pollution, we’d continue to have a diverse flora & fauna, we’d still have most of our resources, we’d be much healthier, we’d likely have a healthier employment situation, a less uneven wealth distribution, etc., & we’d gain new economic opportunity & advantages in the long run through innovation. Again, an excellent investment.

          3) The scientific community is wrong & we don’t take those measures: we’d save some money in the short run, but our resources would be greatly depleted & therefore much more expensive; disputes over water & other resources would likely get steadily more frequent & violent, we’d have pollution of all kinds, our oceans would be dying (they already are), there’d be catastrophic extinction of plants & animals (already we’re experiencing one of the greatest mass extinctions in the history of this Earth due mainly to human activities), our overall health would likely decline, etc.

          4) The scientific community is right but we do nothing: then even more calamitous extinction; huge displacement of human populations; widespread conflict over our remaining resources, including water; widespread & uncontrollable disease; increasing crop failure; intolerable weather; gigantic destructive storms; possible extinction of the human species.

          So what is the best outcome? Actually, it’s #2: scientists are wrong but we take preventive measures – the response coal companies & other climate deniers are telling us not to take! We would’ve put some money upfront, but the side benefits would be well worth it & we wouldn’t’ve had to go through some of the worsening effects of climate change that we feared were impending. #1 would be the 2nd best outcome, because although we go through some tough times weathering through some of the effects of climate change that appear sure to come no matter what we do, we will have survived & overcome our greatest world climate threat we’ve ever faced. Even though it seems to be the industrialists’ dream, #3 comes out a poor 3rd, because although we wouldn’t face the climate challenges (beyond the normal cycles we’ve always faced), we’d still be a much worse place due to widespread pollution, resource depletion, wildlife extinction, etc., which would eventually take us down, anyway, even without being pushed on by climate change. Of course, #4 would be the worst. Conclusion: we must take the (now urgent & dramatic) measures necessary to combat climate change & environmental degradation, whether 97%+ of the scientists are correct, or certain powerful, superwealthy fossil fuel & chemical industries such as Koch, Exxon, Monsanto & Dow are correct. No matter which side is right, taking these measures is clearly the prudent course to take. The longer we wait, the more expensive it will be and the more we will suffer.

          Even if these outcomes were considered to have equal possibility (they’re not: the probabilities overwhelmingly favor #1 or #4, depending on our action or inaction), and even if you didn’t care about maintaining animal & plant diversity, a pleasant environment, clean air, clean water, your own personal health & longevity to say nothing about other people’s (because if you were this way, you wouldn’t care about other people), but only about getting rich, any reasonable businessman, in order to insure himself from the worst consequences, which would be so dire that the differences among the other outcomes become trivial, would choose to take appropriate measures to tackle this possible climate change challenge.

          Much more prudent would be to take measures to prevent or alleviate these disastrous changes, like becoming much more energy efficient, converting to clean, renewable energy, conserving more, paying for greenhouse emissions, consuming less, reducing intake of meat, avoiding plastic, expanding mass transit, avoiding driving cars, abandoning industrial farming for regenerative organic farming, reforesting our lands, reducing chemical spills & agricultural runoff, reducing the amount of land paved in concrete & asphalt…, & instituting pricing on greenhouse gases (such as the carbon fee + dividend proposed by CCL https://citizensclimatelobby.org/remi-report/ ) is a first step toward accomplishing these goals. All these things would help forestall climate change, have many other benefits to the environment, people’s health & the economy, & aren’t hard to do, other than getting past the well-funded industries trying to block such measures. It’s a far better way than suffering through ever greater environmental & economic disasters, wishing & hoping that technology will come up with something to protect us. And it’s our moral imperative to do so.

    • RightWriter

      HAVE YOU BEEN TAKING YOUR MEDS REGULARLY? Maybe you should make an appointment to see your shrink! Or check into a clinic: you sound REALLY sick.

      • Frank B.

        Attacking me– won’t change a mother-fucking thing. Bottom Line: Trump = Lucifer!

        • Gary Jensen

          Sorry, Obama has the title of Lucifer!

          • Frank B.

            Sorry– trump has that tittle! And YOU are just as responsible for putting Satan in the white house. May God have mercy upon your ignorant wretched soul!

          • Gary Jensen

            Nope, sorry it belongs to the Obamanation!

          • Frank B.

            Nope sorry. Trump = Lucifer.

          • Gary Jensen

            Well, he was the best candidate, and the best president we have seen since TR.

          • Ben Totuous

            The orderlies from the asylum are hot on your trail. You will be back to the rubber room shortly.

          • Frank B.

            He was the “best candidate” if you are a racist, and deplorable satanic supporter.

        • Gary Jensen

          Man you should see a psychiatrist about your anger management. You show that you are lacking in education when you use guttural words.

          • Ben Totuous

            Nobody could be more uneducated than those falling for the flim-flam of Trump.

          • Frank B.

            Trump = Lucifer … has nothing to do with my “anger”. And worrying my “guttural words” won’t save your dumb ass for your part in giving the world Satan!

          • Gary Jensen

            I do believe that satan already has you, to bad he did not have a better spokesperson than you.

          • Yes, too bad indeed!

          • Gary Jensen

            I am already been saved.

          • Frank B.

            Not if you supported Lucifer for President!

          • Gary Jensen

            I did not support Hillary!

          • Frank B.

            I didn’t stutter mother fucker.. Like I said– Your punk ass supported Lucifer, AKA trump!

          • Faye Hayes

            Gary- I am already been saved ? DUH!!!

          • Gary Jensen

            It was due to issues on my keyboard. I have already been saved.

        • Gary Jensen

          Did you hate your mother? Why do you keep attacking her? Were you born without, or raised without a father?

        • What nonsense from Frank B.!

          • Frank B.

            Then don’t read it you dumb mother fucker!

    • Gary Jensen

      Puerto Rico, is a disaster, and has been a disaster forever. In a disaster like this, you cannot save everyone. People are going to die, it is a given, YOU CANNOT SAVE EVERYONE! It appears that very few people ever planned for a disaster. Where I live in an earthquake zone, the federal government will not be able to help us for 30 days. God Bless our President Donald Trump.

      • Ben Totuous

        God will damn Trump to eternal hell for sexual assault, rape, lying, stealing, murder in the form of denial of healthcare. And perhaps most for lying about being a Christian while acting as an agent of the devil.

        • Gary Jensen

          I do not see anyone being denied health care, do you not remember “if you like your doctor you can keep you doctor.” Where is my $2,500 in savings?

      • Frank B.

        Well when you get appointed God —Then you can decide who lives and who dies. Until then just shut the fuck up & sit your stupid ass down!

    • RightWriter

      If Republicans were suppressing the vote, how come all the states with REPUBLICAN governors AND Republican-controlled legislatures had HIGHER vote turnouts last November than in the past? It was the DEMOCRAT-controlled states (those that are left) that had LOWER turnouts!

      But of course that wouldn’t fit your misinformed analysis.

      • Frank B.

        What states and what stats are you specifically referring to ass hole?

  • Gregory Sarmas Sr.

    Frank B needs help! Don’t be like Frank B!!

  • Babsan

    One Executive order can cancel the other Executive order.Tha’s how the Muslim FRAUD ruled so what goes around comes around

    • drantigmo

      “Muslim fraud?” Instead you voted for a con-man, swindler traitor. So that makes YOU an accomplish. That’s why we have these websites; so we can track all of you who are criminals just like your fearful leader.

      • better than voting for a murderer like clinton but i have not seen any indications of trump as a traitor,selling our uranium to russia and on and on till we get swindler or conman in his presidency. hillary has been shown to be a traitor over and over with proof. benghazi, emails, haiti, name it…she has cheated at it.

        • Ben Totuous

          Delete this post full of lies, or I will get it done for you.

          • Gary Jensen

            Kind of touchy are we?

          • Ben Totuous

            Keep your nose out of this, you demented asshole.

          • Gary Jensen

            Demented? Wow, still very touchy, I can arrange some anger management sessions for you. You no doubt need it.

        • Philip R Latorri
        • Philip R Latorri

          Whatever Clinton did is nothing compared to what Trump is doing with our healthcare system that’s millions of Americans who will die at small hands finger tips. He’s a rapist a con man, taxpayers have paid out the nose in 9 months then Obama spent in 8 yrs, think about it people this has launch codes to nukes,

          • RightWriter

            Where you got the idiotic notion that “taxpayers have paid out…the nose (I assume you mean paid MONEY THROUGH the nose) … more in 9 months than Obama spent in 8 years.” That’s absolute NONSENSE. Federal expenditures rise by a percent or two every year, because employees’ salaries rise (1-2% per year in recent years) and so do some other fixed expenses. But apart from EMERGENCY funds for hurricanes and floods (of which we’ve had more than our share this year), expenditures have NOT risen significantly under Trump.

            Also, you jackass, since the FISCAL year (the government’s budgetary year) started LAST OCTOBER, UNDER OBAMA, it is totally STUPID to blame President Trump for ANY of it. Every dime was locked in by LAST YEAR’S budget resolution, which OBAMA SIGNED.

            Try THINKING now and then, and use sources that have SOME credibility.

          • I’m proud of the excellent things President Trump has been doing and continues to do. I marvel that he could marry three such excellent ladies as he has done. And he is helping the children of each marriage, and they are bringing credit to him and his wives.

          • Ben Totuous

            You have no problem the harlot he is currently married to has nude pics all over the internet?

          • Gary Jensen

            I have not looked, did you spend sufficient amount of time looking at the pictures?

        • It’s good to read truth. Thanks, Frances Chute Quinn.

      • Ben Totuous

        That is correct. When we take back the Congress in 2018 from the RepubliScum forces of evil, we are going to deport nazis, racists, trumpkin traitors.

        • David in MA

          Ha, Ha, Ha, funny……….. you smoking that stuff ?

          • I’m guessing that Totuous just lost his mind.

          • Ben Totuous

            Guess again. I belong to MENSA. You have your nose up Trump’s ass.

      • RightWriter

        No, we have these websites so idiots like YOU can blow off steam, without (preferably) shooting up a country music concert and killing 50+ people to do it.

        Babasan is wrong about the legitimacy of Obama’s Executive Order (and Trump’s, for that matter) — because the Constitution says laws MUST be enacted by ACT OF CONGRESS, not adopted by executive action no matter WHO is president. But that’s a lot LESS serious than thinking you could report someone for saying something you don’t like (report TO WHOM? For WHAT?) and thinking the authorities (ANY authorities) will give a RAT’S ASS what you or anyone else SAYS. The First Amendment says ANY of can SAY WHATEVER WE PLEASE. Unfortunately, that includes YOU, but t ALSO includes THOSE OF US WHO AREN’T INSANE LEFT-WING IDIOTS like yourself.

    • LARRY PUCKETT

      YOU GOT IT STRAIGHT BABSAN! I TAUGHT HISTORY AND GOVERNMENT FOR 43 YEARS, AND I KNOW FACT FROM THE FICTION THE COMMUCRATS ARE TRYING TO FOIST OFF ON THE AMERICAN PUBLIC. FRANK B, I KNOW YOUR COLORS, AND THEY ARE RED WITH A HAMMER AND CYCLE.

      • Ben Totuous

        Liar, you are too dumb to teach.

        • Gary Jensen

          He is a very smart man, you seem to be the one who is not up on the news, you been living in a cave the last few years?

        • LARRY PUCKETT

          YOU’RE AN IDIOT! MUST BE THE COMMUNISM RUNNING
          THROUGH YOUR BLOOD!

        • Ronnie Cowlishaw

          GROW UP!

          • Ben Totuous

            Tell that to the infantile traitor pretending to be president.

          • Our President serves well and honorably. Hooray for Donald Trump!

          • Ben Totuous

            He serves Putin well, got to agree there.

      • Ronnie Cowlishaw

        What a true statement, again the left leaning can’t resist call names grow up BEN!

        • LARRY PUCKETT

          HE LOOKS TO BE OLD ENOUGH TO KNOW BETTER!
          I SPENT 6 1/2 YEARS IN THE NAVY DURING NAM, AND
          4 1/2 YEARS AS AN ACTIVE DUTY POLICE OFFICER,
          SO HAVE SOME KNOWLEDGE OF THE WORLD.

          • And yet you’ve not learned that your note should not be in all caps.

          • LARRY PUCKETT

            I’M NEARLY BLIND, THAT’S THE ONLY WAY I CAN SEE WHAT I TYPE!

          • Faye Hayes

            Larry- Being nearly blind doesn’t excuse your spelling.

      • A sickle is not the same as a cycle.

      • Faye Hayes

        Larry- YOU ARE A DUMB PUTZ!! YOU taught History & Government for 43 years ? How did you ever make it this far without learning how to spell correctly ? Did you fake it all these years ? Just saying.

  • Debbie Ferguson

    Frank B must listen to all the non factual news media and believes in all the lies. No truth to any of his statements. If you believe President Trump did everything on his list then he must be God. NOT. I guess Frank has never heard of the Deep State or Shadow government.
    A very, very angry man. Wait for his response telling me to go to H….

    Don’t go there folks. The only way we can come together is Love for one another even if we do not agree with one another. What is happening is people like this will not listen to other opinions just there own way of thinking. Very small mind who will never learn to seek what the truth is. Are you on the side of being control or the side of seeking truth!

    • John Williams

      Block old frankie, if everyone would block the idiot, he would have no forum from which to bleat out his rabid BS.

      • Ben Totuous

        Block the truth. You right wing idiots are thrilled to go through life as dumb as a bag of doorknobs.

        • RightWriter

          Self-description, I presume? I certainly don’t know any CONSERVATIVES to whom it would apply.

        • Ronnie Cowlishaw

          Classic Liberal statement when you hate someone call them names right BEN!

          • Ben Totuous

            Nothing personal. I simply hate liars. And the righties on this board do nothing but lie.

      • Debbie Ferguson

        John blocking old Frankie proofs nothing. He has the right to express his views just like we have the right to express ours. If Americans do not wake up soon we will be losing our country forever.

    • niknar

      “The only way we can come together is Love for one another even if we do not agree with one another”

      This is one of the best sentences I’ve seen in any comment section. We actually have a lot in common, if only we seek it. Anyway, we are Americans & we need to support each other to make a better nation & world. But first we need to be able to discern the truth from the lies, & who is on our side & who is not. It’s not always easy, but a good guide is to go with science, logic, compassion & known facts. Yes, critical thinking is essential for understanding the truth.

    • Gary Jensen

      That is all Frank knows.

    • David in MA

      Frank B is a ghetto troll.

  • drantigmo

    “SAVE” healthcare??? You gutless morons have no idea the path the GOP is leading you down… higher payments for less coverage and one health incident and you-ARE-OUT.
    You deserve everything he does to you. Each and every one of you.

    • The Redhawk

      and BOY are you ever so FOOKED UP ………..the (D) Fascists have been making INS Companies RICHER that EVER… Aetna stock UP over 300% since O zero care , Hunan Up 158%, Etc etc etc… and they are pulling out of the Exchanges nad raising Premiums … how can you be to FOOKED UP????? iNS Lobbyists BOUGHT te (D) FASCIST PARTY

      • Ben Totuous

        Idiot. The entire market is up 300% since Obama started. Because dumb Repuke economics brought the country to the brink of depression.

        • RightWriter

          How on earth do you figure those numbers?
          1) The market — measured by the Dow-Jones index, the most commonly used — is up about 700 POINTS, not percent, since Dec. 30 2016. Since Obama took office in the middle of a serious slump, based on housing but including the stock market, it’s not really fair to compare 12/31/08 and 12/30/’16 (the Dow fell 33% in 2008).
          And if Republicans had “brought the country to the brink of depression,” as you suggest, the markets should have been much LOWER, not HIGHER, NOW (or in January 2017) than they were in January 2009). Yet ALL indexes are MUCH higher now than then. You have your head tied on BACKWARDS.

          • Ben Totuous

            Idiot. I said….

            The entire market (yes DJIA) is up 300% since Obama started (YES, 2009).

          • RightWriter

            OK, yes, the Dow is 300% higher (roughly) than it was in 12/’08 — at which time we were just STARTING to come out of the “Great Recession” of 2008. As I said, the Dow FELL 33% in 2008 alone.
            Then, as you keep insisting, it did increase by CLOSE to 300%. That percentage isn’t very useful, though, because starting from a lower price level (about 8700 when Obama took office) ANY price level rise will look like a huge percentage. What matters is that it closed on 12/30/2016 at 19763 — and just this morning (10/’17) it opened at the 23000 mark. So in EIGHT YEARS under Obama, it went from 8700 to 19763 (an increase of 11000 POINTS) — but in EIGHT MONTHS under TRUMP it has gone up from 19763 to 23000 — 4300 points. A MUCH more solid and rapid increase in price levels under Trump.

          • Ben Totuous

            First, you must compare percentages, not points. And this growth under Trump is based upon an unconscionable pollute-all-you-wish Executive Order… I don’t know about you, but I have children and grandchildren who Trump is killing with pollution right now. It is immoral.

          • RightWriter

            No, stupid, when you’re comparing stock market averages you HAVE to compare POINTS, because percentages tell you NOTHING. If you use percentages, you have to assume the big stock market sell-off of 1987 was just a bad day, when it ate up HALF the value of the Dow in 24 hours — which you CAN see if you look at POINTS.
            As for pollution, that wasn’t a “pollute-all-you-wish” EO, and it will be seen to cause ZERO additional pollution. Promise. Don’t believe all you read in the major media, because most of them think there’s a Nirvana in which nobody needs to pollute ANYTHING, ever. There IS no such state of bliss.
            I have raised my family and I did so in MUCH worse environmental conditions than what we face now. They’re FINE. If your kids or grandkids have lung/allergy problems, there are all kinds of treatments and medication available now — see a doctor. As for the choice between 100% clean air — which we will NEVER achieve, anyway — and people having JOBS so they can pay their own medical bills and send their kids to school & college, sorry, but I’m gonna vote for letting people have good jobs, even if the air is 1% less pure than otherwise MIGHT be the case.

          • As usual, RightWriter is right and speaks to the point.

          • RightWriter

            Thanks! Always happy when someone gets it.

          • The Redhawk

            YOU are one FOOKED UP Plantation Dweller..

          • RightWriter is 100% right, as usual.

        • Gary Jensen

          Obama bankrupted us! He did nothing to help the country except more low paying jobs with no benefits.

          • Ben Totuous

            You have a hollow wooden head. Not worth arguing with you. Fuck off.

          • Gary Jensen

            Seek help, I implore you to do so!

        • RightWriter

          I’m the idiot? NO, YOU are the one who STILL isn’t making any sense. WHEN did Republican economics “bring the country to the brink of depression”? And if the market is up 300% (your numbers are WRONG, but it doesn’t matter that much): THAT was the market after it had been blown up by the idiotic, dangerous no-down-payment housing finance plan PROPOSED BY DEMOCRATS (Chris Dodd of Conn., & Barney Frank of NY. both Democrats – very few Republicans supported it BECAUSE it was a disaster waiting to happen as low-income homeowners started to be hit with interest payments and found they could no longer pay their mortgages) . Once the Dems had DESTROYED the housing market (many ordinary Americans saw their homes DECLINE BY 60% IN VALUE because of “Dodd-Frank”), there was no way to keep the stock market from collapsing, which of course it DID/ The Dems timed it beautifully: the damage was done just before George W Bush (who signed the bill only because it had a veto-proof majority) left office.

          • Ben Totuous

            Wrong on all counts. You are either the dumbest motherfucker ever, or lying your ass off.

          • RightWriter

            If you can’t keep your posts clean, I’m not going to respond. You may THINK you’re talking to another semi-literate millennial, but you’re NOT. I’m 74 and a LADY, and I don’t use (or read) that kind of filth. So don’t post to me again unless you can clean up your mouth!

      • RightWriter

        I don’t know what planet YOU live on, but it must be run by FASCISTS. It certainly has nothing to do with Trump’s health insurance plan. BTW, IF the health insurance companies DON’T make money, HOW WILL THEY BE ABLE TO PAY YOUR CLAIMS, NITWIT?” What if your health expenses run MORE than you pay IN for insurance one year? You want Aetna or whoever to say, “Sorry, can’t help! You controlled our profits, and now we don’t have the money to PAY YOUR CLAIMS?”

        • The Redhawk

          If Smart pills are sold in your Plantation….TRY SOME!!! ever seen an Insurance Co go Broke??/ Have you seen Sibsidized Companies Get Richer beyond reason with Tax payers money ?? Do you know what the hell is going on???

          • RightWriter

            Yes, I do know what’s going on — probably better than YOU do. And yes, I HAVE seen insurance companies go broke. It doesn’t happen very often, but it DOES happen. And yes, subsidies — WHICH I OPPOSE on principle (you didn’t ask) — do make favored companies get richer, faster. I never said otherwise. I commented specifically on how HEALTH insurance companies price THEIR services. Period. And what I said was accurate.

          • The Redhawk

            So let’s see WHAT you Really KNOW”” Just ONE QUESTION
            1) HOW MANY BILLIONS dollars Profits did HC INSURANCE COMPANIES reported so far in 2017???? and even an Idiot like you can justify SUBSIDIES?????

          • RightWriter

            Hey, moron, can’t you READ? I just got through saying “I OPPOSE SUBSIDIES ON PRINCIPLE.” Got that, idiot boy? The subsidies were in BARACK OBAMA’S Obamacare program, which I STRONGLY OPPOSED and WORKED AGAINST for seven years. Now, if you’re going to accuse me of stuff, try to find something
            I said I SUPPORTED, not ass-over-backwards Democrat/Socialist plans I SAID I DID NOT OPPOSE (including their subsidies).

          • The Redhawk

            WELL you finally STOPPED VOMITING all over YOURSELF….WELCOME TO SUNLIGHT!! ( stop acting like a(D) loon and know SARCASM)

    • RightWriter

      That is such BULLSH*T it boggles the imagination. What Trump is proposing is that the people who DID “like their health insurance” COULD GET IT BACK, those who liked their doctors could get THEM back, or find new doctors they like as well, and people employed by small businesses — which in the past often couldn’t afford to give their employees ANY insurance (or had to charge a high rate for it) COULD COMBINE WITH SIMILAR BUSINESSES AROUND THE COUNTRY AND GET THE BENEFITS OF SCALE — the price benefits LARGE employers ALWAYS got — to bring down THEIR costs.

      NOBODY WOULD GET DROPPED BECAUSE THEY HAD “ONE HEALTH INCIDENT” OR A PRE-EXISTING CONDITION OR ANYTHING ELSE — THEY COULD ONLY BE “DROPPED” IF THEY FOUND ANOTHER POLICY THEY LIKED BETTER AND CANCELED THE FIRST ONE.

      Wanna know something? In 1963 I had a part-time job (I was in college) with the Washington DC chapter of Blue Cross/Blue Shield. AND IT WORKED EXACTLY THAT WAY — and worked VERY WELL. I hated the job, and quit the minute I found a better one, but the insurance was the BEST I HAVE EVER HAD. And NOW WE CAN GET SOMETHING LIKE IT, FOR EVERYONE

      o=

      • Ben Totuous

        Have another pitcher of Trump Fool-Aid. Oh, and try to find you caps lock key.

        • RightWriter

          I capitalize for emphasis. These webpages don’t allow underscores or italics. If you don’t like it, TOUGH.
          Just as a matter of record, I learned my economics long before I (or almost anyone else) ever HEARD of Donald Trump. I learned it from a couple of NOBEL PRIZE WINNERS, by the way, not some idiot TA working for an equally stupid (or brainwashed) prof at some state college or something.
          Maybe YOU are the one who should be drinking Fool-Aid! (Aren’t you the clever one! Actually, NO, you’re NOT.)

    • RightWriter

      Thanks, Ill happily take what President Trump “does to us” because it will be
      ONE THOUSAND PERCENT better than what the Obama plan forced down our throats. “higher payments for less coverage” was EXACTLY what we would have had to be content with under Obamacare — and there is NO provision about kicking people out of a plan for having used it.
      YOU should be to live the rest of YOUR life with Obamacare. Unfortunately, CONSERVATIVES ARE TOO GOOD-HEARTED TO DO THAT TO YOU

  • The Redhawk

    After O ZERO CARE by the (D) Fascist ignorant Idiots America needs a FIX…..THe (D) Idiots that Forced the Disaster are NOT taking responsibility nor have any desire to change it so EITHER CONGRESS GETS OFF ITS FAT ASS or TRUMP HAS TO SAVE America’s HC SYSTEM… and paying BILLIONS to Insurance Companies that are still RAISING Premiums for Billions made on TAX PAYERS MONEY IS NOT THE ANSWER
    >>>>>>>It’s that SIMPLE!!!!

    • Ben Totuous

      Wake the fuck up. Trump’s actions enable the insurance companies to give less care at higher cost.

  • george briar

    Obamacare must go. It’s obvious the democrats want to keep it or just want trump to fail trying to get rid of it. either way the democrats are the only ones that voted for this crap bill and to date not one of them has ever read it or know what’s in it. Trump will dismantle it and find a way to kill it and that’s the good news. we need to vote out all the democrats that run next year. And ant Rino as well.

    • Ben Totuous

      Too bad for you right wing losers… A significant majority of the American people now support Obamacare. And it is because they have witnessed the sabotage on it from the right for 7 years.

    • RightWriter

      Be careful about those “RINOs”. You start running half-educated, never-held-office “conservative” candidates (or anyway, they THINK they’re conservative) in primaries and then those candidates LOSE THE GENERAL ELECTION — reducing by one each the number of Republicans in the Senate (or House, for that matter). Then WE LOSE CONTROL OF THE SENATE OR HOUSE, and NOTHING THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP WANTS TO DO IN HIS SECOND TERM GETS DONE. NOTHING. And then HE loses, maybe even in 2020 if the second two years of his FIRST term are a disaster because the Dems have taken over Congress.

      And THEN what? Well, the Dems run on the argument that even if what the Trump Team had WANTED to do had been good, they (WE) COULDN’T HAVE DONE IT because we’re incompetent. So Elizabeth (“Pocahontas”) Warren or Joe Biden or some other left-wing nut WINS in 2020, carries Congress WITH him/her, and WE’D BE BACK IN THE SAME TRAP WHERE WE STARTED WHEN OBAMA WAS IN THE WHITE HOUSE & DEMS CONTROLLED CONGRESS. Except next time WE MAY NEVER GET OUT OF THAT TRAP! (Or it’ll take us 50 years and another Reagan, if such a person exists!)

      Think about this: the RINOs around today vote WITH the Republicans, FOR President Trump’s programs, BETWEEN 50 & 70 PERCENT OF THE TIME. A Democrat taking any of their seats would NEVER vote with the Trump Team. NEVER. So instead of losing SOMETIMES, we’d lose ALL THE TIME. NOT an improvement!!!

      I don’t LIKE the RINOs, either (in fact, I have been DISLIKING — and WORKING AGAINST THEM — a lot longer, probably, than you. But I like the LIB-DEMS even LESS. And I’d rather have President Trump succeed at doing SOME good things than have Pocahontan Warren succeed at doing the BAD things SHE thinks are good.

      And I’ll bet if you think about it, you’d like a partial victory better than a total DEFEAT, too!

      • niknar

        That has been the argument made by establishment (corporatist) Republicans for the last several elections, but it has turned out that the extreme right-wing non-establishment candidates have been faring better, with Trump the ultimate example (although in reality, he’s as corporatist as they come). Now the Republican establishment (what folks here call “RINOs”) has been thoroughly discredited & losing control of the party they’ve ruled for so long. By the way, the Democratic corporatist establishment has been making the same argument, & they decided to put up the epitome of establishment candidates as their nominee when 3/4 of the electorate had expressed anti-establishment sentiment, & she floundered, losing to the most unpopular, most discredited candidate ever.

        How many ordinary Americans consider themselves corporatists? No one I know. Yet both major parties have been ruled by corporatists, & all branches of government as well as the mainstream media are run by corporatists. And they have really messed up our country over the last several decades, during which we’ve experienced a steady decline, & we are now essentially a fascist corporatocracy.

        I’d say if the Republican corporatists want to remain in control of a major party, they’d better join the Democratic Party, where the corporatists are still clinging to power, let the progressives bolt that party & form their own along with many independents, let the Trumpists maintain control over the Republican Party, & let adherents of Cruz & the fundamentalist Christian philosophy form their own Theocratic Party, & then you’d have a much more accurate array of politics of today, & let each of these groups make their own case, & let a real & fair competition begin,

      • Ben Totuous

        The Congress is GONE in 2018, you RepubliScums can take it to the bank. You can thank Trump for it. His recklessness has woken up all but the dumbest 32% of Americans who support him.

    • Ben Totuous

      The only thing Trump is going to kill is Americans in need of healthcare. And he couldn’t care less. Trump is one of the most selfish cretins in the history of civilization.

  • R Beardall

    Well Executive orders are seemingly the only way He is going to be able to do anything and make America great again!!!Besides that he has A Lot more to issue before He even comes close to Ol BE RO!This clown down lower here is part of the reason We have a swamp that accomplishes nothing!!!!! But I am glad He apparently thinks He has found a new God that controls from Weather to telepathic mind control Hu? If what You claim to be true was Frankie, Well Why wouldn’t Trump just wash the East and West coasts into the oceans and save this Country FAST?

  • John Williams

    Judging from the number of blocked comments on my page, I am guessing old frank b is in fine form, what a useless piece of crap.

    • Ben Totuous

      You should be questioning why you block voices of reason. Pull that head out of your sphincter.

  • John Williams

    “No one healthy is now going to sign up in the ACA risk pool, because they have this cheaper option,” Hello, might this be the American way before the socialist fool preceeding Trump made such a mess of things, I would remind all that there is nothing in the “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness” that says anything about YOUR right to healthcare. obamacare should have NEVER been passed to start with, remember when you vote, it was democrats and democrats alone who shoved it down your throat. It is not the business of the government to supply you healthcare, obamacare was never about healthcare, it was always about control. Anyone who thinks that paying for doctors, hospitals and medication is too expensive is a fool if they think paying for doctors, hospitals and medication and adding the cost of government bureaucracy in between is going to be cheaper. I am opposed to government control of healthcare, regardless of which party is doing it, my health is between myself and my doctor, it is not between some faceless, nameless bureaucrat and my doctor.

    • Ben Totuous

      You are full of shit. If Trump gets away with this, he might just as well be shooting people on Fifth Avenue, like he talked about doing.

      • John Williams

        I agree one of us is full of shit, but Sparky, it is you. Are you one of the ones who is dumb enough to not understand that YOU CANNOT ADD A LAYER OF BUREAUCRACY AND MAKE THINGS CHEAPER. some of the things Trump is doing should have been on the very top of the list if the democrat/socialist party really wanted to do something for people, they were after control not healthcare, maybe you should run on down while you still can and see if they can remove your head from your ass before Trump is done and you obamacare runs out.

        • Morton99

          Would you privatize the military then ?

          • John Williams

            WTF does this post have to do with the military idiot?

          • Morton99

            The general sentiment from right wingers is that the government messes up everything it runs. Well the military is the most expensive item on the government’s budget …. ???????? And it is controlled only by the government. Even the Romans used to use mercenary armies.

          • John Williams

            So, whats your point, there is no question the military is very expensive, but it is also a fact that the military, the defense of the citizens, is one of the very few things the federal government is actually authorized to do, healthcare, on the other hand is not. Stay on the subject or STFU and stay out of where you trolls are not wanted.

          • Ben Totuous

            The Declaration Of Independence states, “We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness….”

            Health is deeply ingrained in life and pursuit of happiness. We will get universal healthcare. RepubliScums need to get out of the fucking way.

          • John Williams

            Your intelligence, or lack thereof is showing thru, ANYONE who is dumb enough to WANT to give complete control of one of the most important aspects of their lives over to some faceless, nameless bureaucrat, is a fool.

          • Ben Totuous

            You would rather give complete control to an insurance company. They base decisions on profit, not good care. So who’s the damn fool, skippy?

          • John Williams

            So, you think that that nameless faceless bureaucrat is not going to base his decisions based on cost savings, one government, multiple insurance companies. Insurance companies must vie for your business, obamacare demands it and when it does not work they simply cut coverage, increase premiums and raise deductibles, just exactly what has been going on for several years.Your solution here seems to be a typical left wing philosophy, add more laws, spend more money, get poor results and when it fails, rinse and repeat.

          • Ben Totuous

            I know what i see. My father-in-law was fine with his Obamacare until Trump stuck his nose in it. Now they have taken away his oxygen. RepubliScum death panels are on the way back.

          • John Williams

            I am truly sorry for your father-in-law, but my bet is you are not providing all the facts and what few you are providing are probably your own spin. Remember, you leftist loons do not have a lick of credibility, so there is not much of anything you could say that I put any faith in.

          • Ben Totuous

            Fuck you. The last honest Republican was assassinated in 1865.

          • John Williams

            Typical response from your ilk.

          • Ben Totuous

            Know, so name an honest Republican since 1865.

          • John Williams

            It would not matter who I name, you, would not accept anyway, so it would be a waste of my time. But just think the “Russian collusion” you guys have been screaming about, is coming out, funny thing, just as most of us already knew, it was obama and clinton doing the colluding

          • Ben Totuous

            You are a lying, feces-eating simpleton.

          • Faye Hayes

            Ben- Great comment!!

        • niknar

          What both parties have been about, the Republican Party even more so, is putting corporations in full control of our government. We no longer have any semblance of a democracy; we are now fully a fascist corporatocracy.

  • Larry Brule

    AT LEAST, HE’S TRYING. THAT’S MORE THAN I CAN SAY ABOUT THE DIMOCRATS AND RINO’S!

    • niknar

      The trouble with Trump is that he’s like a raging bull in a china shop, feeling the need to do something but having no idea where to go, & ending up destroying so much in the process.

  • RockyMtn1776

    Trump is trying to save what’s left of America. This is not an easy task since many in both political parties have joined forces to destroy him.

    • Ben Totuous

      Trump has zero clue how to save anything. Every action he has taken is Reverse Robin Hood, or to green light polluting. Trump and his goons are now threatening the few Repubs who actually possess some conscience for the people they work for. Congress does not work for the prez. They media is not there to fawn over the prez. We must fight Trump’s recklessness and giveaways to the special interest 1% at every turn.

      • niknar

        If you look at what Trump has done so far on healthcare, on the environment, & in international relations, it is clear he wants to destroy, not save. All his actions will likely result in destroying lives.

    • Morton99

      You have to be joking. Trump has had a hard time even saving himself. He is an accidental president. I believe that he ran for two reasons – firstly because he want to do anything he could to damage Obama, and secondly because he saw it as a branding opportunity for his own companies. There is a rapidly accruing body of evidence that Trump was in some serious financial straits – and having difficulty in repaying a lot of loans – something that has dogged him for decades. I believe that it is not impeachment that will do him in – but criminal charges for massive money laundering – and that seems to be exactly where Mueller is headed.

      • Ben Totuous

        Mueller’s report will cut Trump off at the knees. He is looking at hundreds of years in prison, and that means rotting there. If the RepubliScums can’t get off their dead asses and impeach him at that point, their party is dead. If he is pardoned, their party is dead.

      • Faye Hayes

        Morton99- There is nothing i can find to contradict in your comment. I do agree with you that Trump will be criminally charged with massive money laundering& that is most likely where Mueller is headed. It’s just a matter of when. Time to take the trash out.

        • Morton99

          Thank you Faye. This is a very tough crowd to convince. I guess is because they are embarrassed.

  • 9400budlang8406

    I can tell you how to save the health care system. Tell the government to get out of the health care system. They can’t run anything without screwing it up and increasing the price of everything they touch.

    • Ben Totuous

      No, we need to get the insurance company profit centers out of healthcare. That is total unproductive money that is all waste. And the philosophy behind insurance is to limit healthcare to maximize profit. The insurance lobby is leading this fight to kill Americans by neglect. They should be ashamed.

      • 9400budlang8406

        That is also true Ben , but I am still against the federal government having any part of my health care. Yet I know that will never be the case.

        • Morton99

          Ben is right – and unless the free market can match salaries with basic healthcare and living and education costs – the government will always have to participate to protect those who cannot afford it. If they do not step up, they will be voted out of office. Its really not a difficult calculation to make.

        • Ben Totuous

          Well, the insurance companies certainly are not going to police themselves. They need to be watched. Who is going to do it if not the government? I say get rid of the insurance companies when it comes to health.

  • Morton99

    I live in a state where the politicians are forced to pass laws to help the people, rather than themselves. I will be curious to know just how many people will vote for Trump when they find they cannot afford healthcare as a result of his sabotage. And don’t waste your time trying to claim otherwise – EVERY insurance company and medical association has said exactly that. Whether or not you think they have been lining their own pockets is really irrelevant now. Start counting how many people die in the year following the elimination of subsidies, for lack of healthcare, or who cannot afford the drugs they need for survival – no one is stepping up to pay for them.
    .

    • The duck

      What you say may well be correct. Since Obama Care most of us have become dependent upon government to care for our individual needs. Well that might have started long before come to think of it. shifting welfare from charitable organizations to government only supports socialism. The more socialism asked for the more free stuff from government demanded the more government controls our private lives. We become slaves of the state. Under the last three presidents we have seen our lives being controlled more and more. Under Obama he took control forcing us to accept people who do not want to live by our standards and taking our choice of medical insurance away as a beginning to end our republic form of government and individual rights under our constitution. I am old enough to have lived in a relatively free country where we had law and order. During Obama’s administration we lost almost all of that freedom and security. So when push comes to shove I’ll vote for Trump’s America even if I lose health insurance.

      • Ben Totuous

        Repugs claim to be religious. Guess what? Jesus was a socialist. You right wing losers would lock him up today for being brown skinned and spreading socialism. Stop this fake pandering to evangelicals. The only church Trump belongs to is the Church Of Pussy Grabbing.

      • Morton99

        You are putting the cart before the horse. There is not a single politician from either party who will take on healthcare – or who has ever wanted to take on healthcare – because it is so contentious and because it is strong armed by the most powerful lobbies in Washington.
        In 2008 – along with the massive recession, healthcare began to fail in a big way. That is the ONLY reason Obama took it on. Millions of people who were already complaining about the growing cost of insurance were suddenly thrown out of work.Healthcare in one year became literally unaffordable for millions who had always taken it for granted. That – in a word – was the reason for the ACA or Obamacare as it is nicknamed.

        To date neither party has taken on the underlying problem – a pharmaceutical industry that is a virtual monopoly, who with the HMOs dictate to Congress how much they will charge. They also pour a lot of money into congressional election campaigns to ensure that no one can put together a big enough group to fight them legislatively

        The only politician that has been willing to take this crippling lobby on is Bernie Sanders. Until they are controlled, and have their monopoly status removed, we will always have the most expensive healthcare system on the planet.

    • Ben Totuous

      Exactly. It is a pleasure to see an informed opinion on this right wing board. Thanks.

      • Morton99

        Thank you. I cannot understand how so many people seem so ignorant of how healthcare is organized n the USA.

        • Ben Totuous

          It is all about having a black guy’s name on the healthcare. Sick ass Repukes can’t deal with a black guy getting credit for anything.

          • Gary Jensen

            It is called the Affordable Care Act, it is not affordable that is why Democrats call it Obama Care.

          • Ben Totuous

            Oats are cheaper after they’ve gone through a horse. You can have yours that way. I get premium refunds each year because Obamacare caps insurance companies at 20% profit. I never got such a check before it passed.

    • Gary Jensen

      why do you think health care failed when Obama was in office? No one paying in the younger generation, it was a failure when it first was passed. 2,500 pages of nonsense. Those that had it free kept on going to the hospital because it was free for little or no illness at all.

      • Ben Totuous

        You are a moron. Obamacare would be just fine without 7 years of RepubliScum sabotage. It would not surprise me to learn RepubliScums sabotaged the Obamacare website from day 1. They are that devious and un-American. Traitors to the fucking rotten core. If I was in charge, I would lock them all up or deport them. Selfish shitbag haters of women and any skin that us not lily white, threat makers, murderers, thieves, liars.

        • Gary Jensen

          Name calling does not get you anywhere, and neither does using guttural words. I refuse to stoop to the lower level that you are on. Looks like anyone in second grade could have sabotaged the Obamacare site. Devious and un-American was and still is Obama, he has no birth certificate from Hawaii that is real. Obama is as unamerican as they come. Who hates women? They are to be revered! You need to get a grip, before you have an MI.

          • Ben Totuous

            You stoop to bald-face lying. Years ago, Trump supposedly sent his investIgators to Hawaii to investigate the birth certificate. And we never heard a damn thing from him since but sniping, and empty accusations.

            RepubliScums hate women. Their healthcare plan formation team was comprised of 13 white males. Now they gut women’s birth control coverage. Trump threatened his accusers who alleged sexual assault. What if Weinstein did that? He is seeking professional help. Trump was allowed to slough off his confession to multiple sexual assaults as locker room talk. Liar!

          • Gary Jensen

            Ben, you need an update on history, you are about seven years behind the rest of the nation. Private investigators went there, they were refused information, entrance by the woman who provided the information for Obama’s fraudulent birth certificate. This woman was killed in a fictitious small aircraft crash. She died and the others were safe with nary a scratch. The person who took her place stated that there was no birth certificate on file for Obama.

          • Ben Totuous

            Fake news. I challenge you to support your claim with a credible news article.

          • Faye Hayes

            Gary Jenson- Another conspiracy theory that went down in flames. As Ben stated, where is your credible news article to support your fake news claim? Shit or get off the pot. We are waiting….. the silence is deafening!!

          • Gary Jensen

            https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/12/12/hawaii-obama-birth-certificate-fuddy/3996657/ Here is just one from USA Today, however, there are plenty of others listed.

          • Gary Jensen

            No, they were denied entrance to see them. Why did Obama spend millions of dollars to hide the fact through court challenges?

          • Ben Totuous

            Simple, he didn’t hide anything. That is fake news. Nothing but a legal and proper birth certificate there, so the racists lied about it.

        • Gary Jensen

          Judge last year declared parts of Obamacare illegal because the house and Senate did not vote for it, ithe funds have to go through appropriations, that is the illegal part that President Trump removed. Are you afraid that you are going to lose your free health care?

          • Ben Totuous

            Fuck you. Unlike Trump, nobody ever gave me anything. I earned and invested to build my own my own nest egg. I have my own ranch here in paradise. The state where our 12th best president, Obama, was born.

  • Like Obama, he is resorting to an old tactic that has been used from virtually the very beginning of Congress. That speaks poorly, in particular, of the House. It has been split since the Tea Party and is going to stay that way until one side of the other gets adequate control.

  • Ben Totuous

    What the asshole Trump is doing to healthcare is sabotage. He know a significant majority of Americans now approve of Obamacare as it is. So now his way to destroy it is driving premiums up. Limiting enrollment by shortening the sign up period and cutting advertising of the sign up period… Thus limiting the pool when there are currently enough enrollees to keep it stable. Trump should be arrested for these actions of sabotage. They jeopardize the health of Americans. He doesn’t care about people, only what rich special interest donors want.

    • RightWriter

      That’s all nonsense, of course. Nothing in ANY of Trump’s proposals limits enrollment — in fact, there will be MORE enrollment because the COST will come down under any of Trump’s plans. The signup period won’t be shortened and advertising won’t be limited. And IF a pool is limited, ANOTHER pool will be started offering the same benefits.
      Since the current plan hasn’t been PUBLISHED yet, you have NO idea what’s really in it. You’e just spouting the latest anti-Trump DRIVEL.

    • How proud I am of President Trump! He does one good thing after another good thing. He’s very wise and deserves the support of every patriot. I was born in Texas and was schooled in Missouri and Illinois. I learned of good past presidents and I see that President Trump is one of the good ones. He deserves our support.

  • RightWriter

    The Federal Circuit Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia — the second court in importance, topped only by SCOTUS, ruled that Obama’s Executive Order was a violation of the Constitution — which requires that ALL LAWS must be passed by CONGRESS, not implemented by executive order Period. So, Obama’s Executive Order was ILLEGAL, and ANY similar order signed by any other president WOULD BE ILLEGAL, TOO.

    Yeah, what goes around comes around — and in this case that’s a VERY clear ruling AGAINST using executive orders because Congress won’t (or anyway, hasn’t yet) approved a president’s proposed law. It is, unfortunately, JUST AS UNCONSTITUTIONAL if Trump does it as it was when Obama did it. Sorry.

    • Ben Totuous

      You are totally correct. Unfortunately, we have a totally dysfunctional Congress. Big money has done this. The Supreme Court caused it in the Citizens United ruling. The Congress doesn’t give 2 shits about we the people. They are bought and paid for by Big Pharma, NRA, insurance companies, and every other special interest group. And there is no fixing it without cutting off the money. Term limits won’t do it either. These people get corrupted from the first day they get to DC and start taking donations.

      • RightWriter

        Well, IF that were true (it is NOT), We the People had better go find ourselves either a DICTATOR or a MONARCH, because apparently democracy and a free society are simply not possible.

        First, what ABOUT that all-important FIRST election? THAT’s when the hopeful candidate NEEDS the financial support, but based on your analysis (or more accurately, your rush to judgment) candidates who hadn’t been elected and HAD A CHANCE to sell out to Big Pharma (or whoever), wouldn’t get any money. YET THEY DO. Why? Because Big Pharma and the others support candidates WHO THEY HOPE will give their positions a hearing. That’s MUCH more important for most lobbyists than backing the long-time members who have already either voted for or against the lobbyist’s interests and HAVE MUCH LESS NEED OF THE MONEY the lobbyist might donate.

        Think I’m wrong? My statement is based on 20+ years WORKING on Capitol Hill for Republican (and conservative) members of the Sente or House, and SEEING where the lobbyists’ money goes AND WHY. A few other things you should be aware of:

        1) The Supreme Court has said repeatedly that LOBBYING is the
        EXERCISE of FREE SPEECH. Those lobbyists represent PEOPLE, after all: the people who work in their offices or factories, THEIR families, and, yes, their companies’ stockholders. (I thought we conservatives
        SUPPORT capitalism — you sound like you HATE it!)

        2) Since you singled out “Big Pharma” I will, too. How do you think those companies EARN the money they dole out to candidates — or to their stockholders as dividends, or to their employees? THEY MAKE LEGAL PRODUCTS and SELL them to consumers who NEED (in the case of pharmaceuticals, most people take them ONLY when they are suffering some medical malady and NEED the medication.

        3) Those Big Pharma companies employ tens of thousands of Americans, mostly at middle-to-upper income wages. You want to put the those companies out of business? Where will all their employees go for jobs?” WELFARE?

        4) Ditto stockholders. Whether someone buys a Big Pharma stock because the product saved their mother’s life (or whatever) or the stock just happens to be part of a mutual fund they bought for their IRA or 401(k), not tens of thousands but MILLIONS of Americans depend, at least in part, on the Big Pharma stocks for their retirement income. Sure, in a market like we’ve had THIS year, those people could buy ANY stock and make money, but as they say, “what goes up must come down,,” and there WILL be market slumps in the future. You want to destroy MILLIONS of Americans’ chance of having a decent retirement income?

        5) Pissed off about drug prices? So am I. But remember: most of those
        drugs are developed IN THE US, by “Big Pharma” companies. Sometimes it takes YEARS for a new drug to go through testing and win approval — and many drugs don’t EVER get that far, meaning EVERY DIME the developer spent was NOT profit, but COST. WHEN (and IF) those drugs do come to market and begin to be used in hospitals or prescribed by doctors to cure/heal/prolong life, it may ALREADY have cost the “Big Pharma” developer a fortune. THEY HAVE TO RECOUP THAT COST THROUGH SALES, OR THEY WON’T HAVE MONEY TO DEDICATE TO THE NEXT BREAKTHROUGH DRUG.

        6) Almost every Big Pharma company has a program to make their drugs available to uninsured and low-income Americans. They KNOW they can’t morally deny someone medication that might save their lives. But THAT DRIVES UP THE TOTAL COST, TOO — so some of that extra cost is written off against the price charged to insurance companies and anyone else who buys their product.

        7) Buy medicines abroad, often at lower prices? Sure, but it’s a crap shoot. Often you won’t REALLY know that the medication you get in Mexico City or even London or Tokyo is EXACTLY the same medication you could buy in New York or Chicago or Los Angeles — and are YOU expert enough (and have good enough eyesight) to read every word on the label and make SURE it’s the same thing? Depending on where you bought the medication, that country’s version of the FDA (if they even HAVE one) might or might not have figured out that the drug in question was causing serious problems. YOU might find out only when you were rushed to the hospital — OR DIED. (Look up “thalidomide Phoenix case 1962” for a horror story about what can happen when even a first-world country — in this case Great Britain — doesn’t test drugs thoroughly.)

    • David in MA

      are you a 9 year old?

      • RightWriter

        Since you didn’t relate your idiotic question to any of my posts, I have no idea how or why you’d have an idea like that in your otherwise apparently empty head.
        NO, I’m 74 and not ashamed to say so. And I’VE BEEN POLITICALLY ACTIVE (as a conservative Republican) snce 1956. I don’t know why you wanted to know that, but there it is.’
        I’d hope for more intelligent queries from other posters.

        • It’s good for citizens to think together and learn to act together. With two years out during the Korean conflict (I was in the Naval Reserve) I’ve also been “politically active” but now at 88 years of age, I only write occasionally to speak up about truth on the internet.

          • RightWriter

            I can’t argue with that! I do get a little annoyed when someone wants to challenge one of my posts — but can’t be bothered to say WHICH ONE, or why, or anything else. I enjoy the debate, but it takes TWO (or more) to debate intelligently.
            Nice to “meet” someone here who’s older than I am! Sometimes I feel like the house den mother, or grandma. 🙂

      • Ben Totuous

        I noticed you couldn’t manage to detail where his post was wrong. Are you a 5 year old?

    • President Trump acts responsibly and reasonably. Good for President Trump!

      • RightWriter

        I don’t know if you’re responding to a particular post of mine or not (never mind which one!), but for the most part, I agree. He’s made a few mistakes, not big ones, but every president gets some stuff wrong, especially in their first year.

        I’m a tough grader, but I’d give him a solid B.

        • Faye Hayes

          RightWriter- I would give Drumpf a solid F, for a total failure at everything he has done so far. It’s Mueller time!!

          • RightWriter

            You’re entitled to your opinion, even if it IS wrong. Trump has:
            * Given us a Supreme Court Justice, Neil Gorsuch, who will carry on conservative jurisprudence for the next 40 years or so.
            * Given us — so far, with more to come — about 40 alsio first-rate judges on the U.S. Circuit Courts of Appeals and U.S. District Courts — most of whom will also be around for the next 3 or 4 decades, upholding CONSTITUTIONAL principles and erasing the left-wing judicial actions of the past 20 years.
            * Provided a formula for tax reform AND reduction which will probably receive Congressional approval in the next few weeks. You can’t blame President Trump for the apostasy of phony conservatives like John McCain or the not-even-PRETENDiNG- to-be-conservatives like Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski. Nor can you blame Senate leader McConnell for such phony Republicans. You CAN blame STUPID REPUBLICANS who voted for wingnuts in 2014 and 2016 Senate races, and wound up RE-ELECTING LIBERAL DEMOCRATS, reducing by FIVE the potential Republican Senate majority. Bet YOU were one, too!
            As for Mueller, he is going to decide within a few weeks that he can’t make a case against Donald Trump, and GO AFTER THE REAL BAD ACTORS — Hillary, Loretta Lynch, and the Clinton Mob. Then he (Mueller) will start to EARN his paycheck.

          • Faye Hayes

            RingWinger- As for your point on Mueller , keep dreaming buddy. THE SHIT IS ABOUT TO HIT THE FAN!!

          • RightWriter

            As I said, you’re entitled to your opinion, even if it is 1) wrong; 2) stupid; 3) misinformed and 4) based on nothing factual at all, I know whereof I speak, which YOU clearly DO NOT. So keep your inane predictions to yourself and don’t bother me with any more of your crap. We’ll SEE who’s right and who’s wrong, and I promise you that YOU will be proven WRONG.

          • RightWriter

            Yeah, and it’s gonna splatter ALL OVER HILLARY, her pay Ooma Abedin, and their trained monkey chair from the DNC, Debbie Wasserman Schultz. NOT AN OUNCE will dirty President Trump or anyone in his Administration (well, maybe former Administration flunkies Steve Bannon or one of HIS pals). Guaranteed. By next summer Mueller will be back with his law firm (IF they’ll TAKE him back) and his staff will have dispersed to third-rate law firms all over the NYC-DC corridor. And Hillary will either be in JAIL, DISBARRED, or maybe working off a hefty community service sentence. WAIT AND SEE!

          • RightWriter

            I notice even YOU in your anti-Trump mania couldn’t deny the significance of his Court appointments (either Gorsuch or the appointees to Courts of Appeals) OR the importance of tax reform and reduction. Nor could you find a logical way to blame President Trump for the apostasy of John McCain, Susan Collins, or Lisa Murkowski — or even that Senate Leader McConnell can’t be held responsible for those traitors.
            IN OTHER WORDS, THE ONLY THING YOU CAN COME UP WITH TO HOLD AGAINST DONALD TRUMP IS WHATEVER SIN YOU THINK MUELLER HAS UNEARTHED. AND THERE IS NO CRIME — NONE — OR EVEN MISBEHAVIOR THAT MUELLER HAS FOUND. NONE. NADA. ZIP. EVEN IN YOUR FEVERED IMAGINATION, ABSOLUTELLY NOTHING!

          • RightWriter

            Even if Trump HAD been a “total failure” (and he has NOT), that wouldn’t give Mueller ANY grounds to move against him. Mueller’s assignment is to look into possible collusion between President (or candidate) Trump and Russia, not to pass judgment on his performance as President. There HAS BEEN NO COLLUSION between Trump and Russia (although there has been LOTS between HILLARY CLINTON and Vladimir Putin), so even if Trump were the worst president ever (he’s not, not by a long shot), IT WOULD GIVE MUELLER ABSOLUTELY NO BASIS TO MOVE AGAINST HIM. None. And in fact, if Mueller were to try to bring some sort of spurious charges against Trump without evidence of collusion with Russia (and there IS no evidence), HE WOULD BE SUBJECT TO REMOVAL FROM HIS POSITION FOR NOT DOING HIS JOB. Which may happen anyway, because he’s DONE his investigating and found NOTHING to investigate. He doesn’t have a free hand to investigate ANYTHING he wants to poke into: he has an ASSIGNMENT, and he’s DONE it. There’s NO THERE THERE.

          • Faye Hayes

            RIGHT WING NUT- How the hell would you know if Mueller’s Investigation is over ? And how do you really know what evidence Mueller has on DUMP ? NO one has that info , unless you have access to some classified files that you obtained. Maybe you could share your sources & post them on this forum for the rest of us. Only Congress has the power to impeach the president. If Mueller indicts DRUMPF for Obstruction of Justice or Collusion with a Foreign Government, then RUMP will be tried in Federal Court. There has been no final conclusion by Mueller on Trump’s ties to Russia.He is getting closer to the truth& it doesn’t look good for T- rump AT ALL!!

          • Gary Jensen

            How about Hillary, Bill, and Obama? probably not do anything!

          • RightWriter

            To Left-Wing-Loonie (AKA Faye Hayes): Did it ever occur to you, you leftist loonie, that I MIGHT be in a POSITION to know? Maybe I “have access” LEGALLY to classified files because using them is part of my job! And NO, I am NOT going to BREAK THE LAW by sharing anything I know from my professional work with an asshole like YOU, or anyone else I encounter on a website llke this.
            Actually, though, all I have had to do THIS week was READ THE WASHINGTON POST — NOT a conservative newspaper! — because it’s been ALL OVER even the liberal media. Wednesday’s headline: “CLINTON campaign, DNC* tied to “Dossier”” (* DNC is DEMOCRATIC National Committee, since I’m assuming a dumbkopf like you might not know that!) That is to say, the DEMOCRATS INVENTED the whole “Dossier” that allegedly nailed President Trump with “collusion” with Russia: NO! It was the DEMOCRATS who colluded with Russia. Since THAT is what Mueller is SUPPOSED to be investigating, it looks — even to the Washington POST — like the whole collusion story is a busted balloon.
            Meanwhile, you’d better take another look at the U.S. Constitution and learn what you SHOULD have learned in SIXTH GRADE about impeachment. The Federal Courts have ABSOLUTELY NO ROLE IN THE PROCESS. A bill of impeachment must be brought to the HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES (controlled by the Republicans), where it is considered by the Judiciary Committee (ditto). IF it passes Judiciary (which has only happened with a president TWICE in all of American history), it goes to the full House of Representatives, where it is debated extensively. IF it is approved by 50% of the House, it is referred to the Senate, which acts as a “COURT” (but ISN’T one) with the Chief Justice presiding. THERE MUST BE A VOTE OF 2/3 OF THE SENATE (that’s currently 67, if your math is as weak as your civics) TO “CONVICT” the President or other official who was impeached. That removes him/her from office BUT IT IS NOT A LEGAL PROCEEDING — IT DOESN’T SEND THE CONVICTED OFFICIAL TO PRISON. THAT would require a separate criminal trial (NOT in a federal court!) and it has NEVER happened.
            But DON’T hold your breath. Impeachment MUST (under the Constitution) be for “Treason or high crimes or misdemeanors” (murder &c). Since it is now ABSOLUTELY clear that if there was ANY treason, it was committed by the DEMOCRATS who brought in a washed-up British SPY to build a case against Trump (90% of which turned out to be TOTALLY INVENTED (again, my source is the left-wing Washington Post), Mueller realizes he would have to turn around and start investigating HILLARY if he wants to nail anyone there. And nobody’s killed anyone, so no high crimes.
            Mueller has hired a staff of nearly 100 hotshot lawyers and investigators, NONE of which have put together ONE OUNCE of evidence of ANY legal wrongdoing against President Trump. Hillary and her sidekicks — Ooma Abedin, former DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz (who got fired from the DNC for mishandling THEIR money)…well, THAT’S another story. Very likely LEGAL proceedings WILL be brought against Hilly and Ooma, but that’s NOT inside information; it’s the conclusion of an EXPERIENCED observer (me).
            Now please go to hell where you belong — and leave ME alone!

          • RightWriter

            I love it — you slam ME for saying things for which I have no proof (“how would you know if…”), although I DO have perfectly legitimate means of knowing what I’m talking about) and then YOU do exactly THE SAME THING: “He (presumably you mean Mueller) is getting closer to the truth…” HOW THE HELL DO YOU KNOW THAT? (Never mind that it’s NOT TRUE!)
            A clarification on my earlier message: If Mueller WERE to indict President Trump for…whatever…he COULD NOT BE TRIED in a Federal Court or anywhere else UNTIL (UNLESS) HE HAD FIRST BEEN IMPEACHED, CONVICTED, AND REMOVED FROM OFFICE. Mueller can hand down all the indictments he wants (though it’s MUCH more likely to be Hillary and Ooma he indicts than it is the President), but as long as the President IS the President HE CANNOT BE TRIED “IN A FEDERAL COURT” or anywhere else. Just another part of the Constitution you REALLY need to READ!

  • niknar

    Save healthcare? Trump is trying to destroy healthcare as we know it & replace it with wealthcare.

  • Frank B.

    Trump/Lucifer… can’t even save his own worthless ass! You dumb ass deplorables mark my words.. trump will NOT complete his first term in office.. He is a fucking con man and asshole. And Lucifer must go!

  • cathylovesyou

    Obamacare and Obama himself should be repealed and replaced. Obamacare was conceived as a flawed program to fail by the Democrats figuring when it did Communist Democrats would get single payer which is really what they wanted to begin with. Democrats in the Senate that are not Communist should vote with the Republicans to get the job done, move on and proceed to get rid of McCain, Collins is going, Pelosi, Schumer, Gillebrand (Schumer’s daughter) Vote out Ryan and McConnell and move on. and pass Tax reform. Don’t do it for Trump do it for the American people, every law doesn’t make everyone happy if it did itd wouldn’t be cost effective, it has to be good for the Country overall.

    • Ben Totuous

      Treasonous Rump will leave office in disgrace having accomplished absolutely nothing positive. I hope they put a webcam in his prison cell so we can enjoy his incarceration until he rots.

  • David in MA

    Maybe Trump is only addressing the EO’s Obama installed illegally?

    • Ben Totuous

      Only if you take the standard right wing racist position everything a black guy did as president was illegal.

      • David in MA

        Black has nothing to do with opposition to Obama, it’s his love for Islamic Marxism I object to for the Constitutional Republic, America.

  • Stephan W Shook

    The government has no business being in the insurance business, nor any other business, that is not their purpose. The people are supposed to take care of their insurance thru work or thru purchase.

  • Paul Anderson Ed.D.

    Congress hasn’t left President Trump with an alternative.. Seven years of promises from Congress, and nothing done yet. I must admit, I have stopped voting and supporting members of Congress.
    If it were not for President Trump and his Cabinet, nothing would get done. He is amazing, as his clock doesn’t seem to run down. I believe Congress forgot to wind theirs.
    Every time they move a man-hole cover, the swamp stinks worse.

    • Ben Totuous

      Here is a golden opportunity for you to tell what Trump has accomplished. Positive things, than is. Put up or shut up.

      • Even without help from Congress, President Trump has accomplished many things to benefit every citizen of the U.S.A.

        • Ben Totuous

          WHAT HAS HE DONE? Something constructive. Let’s hear it.

          • Ben Totuous

            CRICKETS…. Every damn time a trumpkin is asked to tell what he has accomplished.

  • Bob

    All the Orange Moron can do is take Health Care away from Millions and cause sure death to many, many of them. Especially those with pre existing conditions. Ah, but Chump and the Republicons will send you a voucher to wipe your butt with. How nice of them!!

  • BatGuanna

    Trump should be able to fix it with and executive order; Obama screwed it up by using them; he just was not worth a crap. The worst President ever known to mankind, his biggest concerns was when is his next tee time, vacation, and is Michille hating whites enough?

    • Ben Totuous

      You idiot. I dare you to research who of Obama or Trump spent more time golfing. I already know the answer. And it will show you for the fool that you are.

  • Alice Steinbacher

    If Obama did it why can’t he? They put him in this position, let them figure it out.

    • Ben Totuous

      Trump thinks he knows it all. Such an imbecile to believe that is incapable of learning fuck all.

  • Richard Fox

    Trump can’t save or do any thing he is not right the job
    we need a person who can get it done right
    people will be hurt by Mr trump well we the people
    done it

  • Dennis B Anderson

    I want the government out of my health care. You dead beat bastards need to do something to help yourselves like get a job. The next thing you will be asking for is transgender bunny rabbits on your bib?

    • Ben Totuous

      You better pray they cover brain implants. Because you have a goddamn hollow wooden head.

      • Dennis B Anderson

        Its greasy phucks like you that think everyone should pay for your health care. You will keep spewing your lies till its obvious pinnochio!!! You will need a free rhinoplasty. Go phuck yourself. find someone to pay your freight. Youre the one thats delussional maybe its the reason you brought up brain surgery?

        • Ben Totuous

          Keep talking shit. I will shit down your pencil neck for you, imbecile.

          • Dennis B Anderson

            We have lumps like you and the illegals to coddle with Obama Care. I used to have great health care until Obama came on the scene. You jerks werent listening you just had your hand out for the free stuff. Im paying 4 times what I was paying for health care and receiving under half. Its what a facist government does gives away my things till theres nothing left to give. The federal government doesnt know anything about health care or cares? Its about the slush fund it creates that they get to handle. I dont need them handling my money or health care. It was always about a single payer plan. Dont be knocked on your toucas Totuous Obama was and still is a theif. Looking at you reminds me of Darwin? One of the real reasons why GOD created the chimpanze was because he was so dissapointed in man. Dont monkey with a real man youll get your bananas squashed.

          • Ben Totuous

            Bring it on, fuckwit. ANYTIME. You are such a moron you need some sense knocked into you. And knock the obsession to lie the hell out of your sorry ass.

          • Dennis B Anderson

            Well thanks Totuos Ill take that as a complement. Why would an illegal such as yourself know anything about paying for ones health care in the first place. I dont have any kind of obsession, but I do have a depression. I have been paying into medi – care since Jesus Christ was a baby. After several decaded I had the opportunity to use my medi – care card for the very first time. The eye surgeon gave me the go ahead. It was mana from heaven because of the money it saved me. I soon got a bill from medi – care telling me I wasnt covered. They sent me in uniform dates a year apart the part A & Part B. Not only did they ask for the money in full also for the office appointment for reparations. I turned this over to my lawyer and we threated to shut down this fly by night collection agency. We then went after the hospital where the surgery was performed. How many people know how to fight this?
            How many people have the guts to fight something as big as medi – care and win. Obama robbed medi – care to give to the illegals. I own and operate a 55 + age mobile home park and 85 % of people using their medi – care cards have been burned is some way. I own my own businesses and Obama with his tentacles managed to burn me for $3500.00. I am just one person whos doctors vietnam wife / secretary / nurse / book keeper shut down the family practice because of Obama Care. Now roll that around your brain for a few ticks Toot !

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