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Defense Sec.: We Must Stay in Iraq After ISIS is Defeated

At the Reagan National Defense Forum on Saturday, Defense Secretary Ash Carter said that the U.S. and its military allies needed to stay engaged in Iraq even after driving the Islamic State out of Mosul. Otherwise, he said, the terrorist group could once again gain ground.

Carter said he was expecting coalition forces to hand ISIS a devastating defeat very soon.

“But there will still be much more to do after that to make sure that, once defeated, ISIL stays defeated,” he said. “We’ll need to continue to counter foreign fighters trying to escape and ISIL’s attempts to relocate or reinvent itself. To do so, not only the United States but our coalition must endure and remain engaged militarily.

“In Iraq in particular, it will be necessary for the coalition to provide sustained assistance and carry on our work to train, equip, and support local police, border guards, and other forces to hold areas cleared from ISIL,” he said.

Clearly, the U.S. cannot afford to make the same mistake twice. ISIS was only able to gain a foothold in Iraq because of President Obama’s failure to bring the war to an appropriate conclusion. As badly as he and every other American citizen wants to see our troops come home permanently, we can’t sacrifice our national security for the sake of instant gratification. There is always a price for that kind of rash decision-making, and we’re seeing that price manifested in Iraq, Syria, and, indeed, in our own communities.

Of course, in a little more than a month, those decisions will no longer be Obama’s to make. Donald Trump will take office on January 20, and his agenda will then shape our fight against ISIS both in the Middle East and here at home. By his side will be Carter’s Defense Department successor, Marine Gen. James Mattis. Trump is expected to nominate Mattis officially on Monday.

At the forum, Carter had nothing but praise for “Mad Dog.”

“I’ve worked with Jim for many years, he’s a friend, and I hold him in the highest regard,” Carter said.

 


  • Raceing1

    THE NATO FORCES OF EUROPE CAN STAY IN IRAG AND TAKE CARE OF IT. AND IRAG CAN PAY THE U.S.A. BACK FOR WHAT WE HAVE DONE FOR THEM WITH A BARRLE OF OIL FOR EACH DOLLAR THE U.S. PAID OUT TO PROTECT THEM.

    • Mike

      We needed to stay there until the gov was strong enough to fight back evil like ISIS. YES it costs to not have an enemy plotting terror attacks in the US.,

      Would you rather terror attacks start back up at home? Would you rather ignore the evils of the world and hope they don’t get inside the imaginary bubble you seem to believe we live under?

      • Herbert Woodbury

        “We needed to stay there until the gov was strong enough to fight back evil like ISIS”

        Never would have happened. These people have zero experience with freedom and the little taste of it they got was sour to them. No democratic/republican form of government will ever work in a muslim country, freedom, tolerance and personal responsibility are concepts their religion does not accept.

  • Warren

    NO We Don’t have to stay ! We have lost a huge number of Young American Lives “It is their Bed Let Them Sleep in It” Pull all our Troops Out we never signed up to be the World’s Police & especially on our own Dime. Deport all Muslims back to their Country of origin. Stop all funding & assistance. Stop all Arms & Aircraft Sales to Foreign entities cut off relations with Saudis in fact all of the Middle East with the exception of Egypt. Let’s be done with all these Maniacs & leave them to their own fate.

    • Walter Flatt

      FROM A KOREAN WAR VET, 1951/53, A REGISTERED DEMOCRAT, A CHRISTIAN

      I VOTED FOR TRUMP. PRAY FOR HIM EACH DAY. DONT JUST LIKE, SHARE, SHARE, SHARE.

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      PUBLIC LAW #414, CHAPTER 2, SECTION 212 WAS PASSED IN 1952 BANNING ALL MUSLIMS FROM THIS COUNTRY. OBAMA HAS SAID ON NATIONWIDE THAT HE WAS A MUSLIM, SO, ANYTHING THAT HE HAS SIGNED, OR ORDER GIVEN HAS BEEN ILLEGAL AND WILL BE ILLEGAL IN THE FUTURE.

      PRAY FOR PRESIDENT ELECT TRUMP EVERY DAY. HE WILL NEED US TO OVERCOME THE EVEL OF THIS WORLD.

      WE NEED TO MAKE JESUS CHRIST FIRST FOR THIS COUNTRY AND DO NOT BELEIVE EVERYTHING YOUR HEAR FROM THE BIASED MEDIA. KNOW THE FACTS.

      NOW IS THE TIME FOR ALL TAX EXAMPT ENTIES, SUCH AS THE MASONIC LODGE, KNIGHTS OF COLUMBUS AND ALL CHRISTIAN CHURCHES TO COME OUT OF THE CLOSET, FIND OUT ABOUT PEOPLE RUNNING AND ADVISE THEIR PEOPLE THE TRUE STORY SO THAT THEY CAN VOTE FOR THE BEST.

      THIS IS WHAT MILLIONS OF AMISH PEOPLE DID. 30 LEADERS MEET IN OHIO WITH 3 MILLION AND VOTED THAT ALL WOULD VOTE FOR TRUMP.

      THIS IS WHAT GAVE HIM OH, PA, MICH, FLA, HELPED IN IND AND NEARLY GAVE HIM VA.

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      TRUMP HAS PROMISED THAT HE WILL REPEAL THE JOHNSON DEAL THAT WOULD TAKE AWAY YOUR TAX EXAMPTION IF YOU TALKED POLITICS.

      IF WE HAVE NOT BEEN SET UP AT A TRY OF A MUSLIM TAKEOVER BY HILLARY, OBAMA, KERRY, SOROS AND BIASED MEDIA, WHY ARE THERE A MINIMUM OF 37 MUSLIMS CAMPS IN THE USA, (5 IN N. VA. CLOSE TO DC) AND A FEMA CAMP IN EVERY STATE, TRY AND BUY UP ALL AMMO, TAKE OUR GUNS, BRING IN THOUSANDS OF YOUR MUSLIMS. GET READY FOLKS. PUT PIG GREASE ON YOUR BULLETS.

      A LOT OF CHRISTIANS VOTED FOR THIS, GOOGLE, THE NEW CLINTON CHRONICLES 2015 AND YOU WILL SEE WHAT I MEAN.

      FEEL FREE TO FORWARD THIS.

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      • Obie Miller

        Thanks!

      • chaka

        THAT is some of the most seriously ignorant sh** I ever heard!!!

    • RsGoat

      Study history and save more lives than just a few. We left other places too soon and when discord returned either the new leaders stepping forward took their nations to war with others which finally affected us and cost us many lives in WW II or left the feild open for the leader’s coming up to create training grounds for the terrorist they sent out to bring death to other countries and our’s. If we are to have peace in this country and avoid major wars we will be drawn into we must make certain the embers of war don’t reignite in the war torn areas where ISIS has destroyed so many lives.
      If we don’t help rebuild those areas and give them something to live for it will be like the Germany of WWI when they had to pay so much repatriation mony to other countries the desolation was fertile ground for Hitler to build his Third Riech! When we left IRAQ we left it unprotected, same with Afganistan. Both places need a modern day marshall plan so the young and middle age people once these ISIS goons are taken care of have something better to work for and families to take care of but that takes time to establish. Once people have something to lose war is not worth participating in! The other problem is several nations worth of PTSD populations? I don’t have answer for that.

    • Mike

      We MUST be the worlds police or we will eventually be staring at a world that is completely against us with an enemy too powerful to stop from running us over. That is not demagoguery. That is facts.

      • BARRY SOETERO

        Good, then enlist and shed YOUR blood for the pukes that hate us!

    • Obie Miller

      When one makes a mistake once, it might be understandable, but to repeat that same action, again, on purpose is just plain foolish!

    • Ca77andra

      I agree totally but they also need to stop the flow of money that so many industries in this country are making off all these wars.

    • Osamao

      You can’t just curl up into a ball. That’s what Obamao did, He ended up setting the world on fire, You libs don’t understand the nature of man. War will never stop. EVER!
      It’s survival of the fittest and it just IS. PERIOD!…………….Learn some history!

      • chaka

        You need to study History! You won’t find any occupation that didn’t eventually end and end badly for the occupiers! Cause you can’t kill them all and boots on the ground just gives the resistance an easily identified target!!!!

        • Osamao

          Progressives are hand wringing mealy mouthed appeasers that create more blood shed of innocence due to their inaction (Cowardness) until they’re left no choice than to submit or surrender. There’s some history for you. Thank progressives for the first two world wars. Looks like Obamao might be responsible for the third. Chaka the clueless one telling me to study history. Please!

          • chaka

            Mealy mouthed my ass!!! And your lack of knowledge of World History like most Americans is positively breathtaking. The last two world wars just like the turmoil in the so-called Middle East and Africa were caused by the imperialistic ambitions of European oligarchs pPutin and Drumpf!!! They conquered these areas by the use of the Bible, Rum, Germs then Guns! For the ease of their adminstration and to keep the peace amongst themselves the European Oligarchs drew lines on the Map of Africa and North West Asia many times lumping ancestral enemies who had ago worked.agreements that kept down conflict!!! Often putting one group over the other, DELIBERATELY disrupting the historical balance of power, in a word divide and conquer!!! In India for instance the British ruled a country of millions with 10,000 Whitemen by using Hindu Troops in Muslim areas and vice versa!!! Naturally when Imperial Great Britain, France and Belgium etc withdrew they left the reins of power to those who collaborated leaving rival groups with.scores to settle because of European meddling!!!!

          • Osamao

            You don’t really think I read your Cultist Democrat rant do you?………………..Because I didn’t.

          • chaka

            Cultist??? A TRUMP supporter calling someone else a cultist!!! That’s FUNNY!!!! Further it doesn’t surprise me at all that you DIDN’T read it!!! It wasn’t Fox news!!

  • Walter Flatt

    WE ARE STILL IN KOREA, JAPAN AND GERMANY AND IF YOU ARE GOING TO CONTROL A COUNTRY YOU HAVE TO KEEP A FORCE THERE. I WOULD BET THAT GERMANY, KOREA, AND JAPAN WOULD BE BACK INTO THE THICK OF THINGS IF WE PULLED OUT, S. KOREA, AT WAR WITH N.KOREA, JAPAN WAR WITH CHINA, GERMANY WITH RUSSIA ALL WITHING 20 YEARS. OUR MONEY HAS REBUILT S. KOREA, JAPAN AND GERMANY AND OUR COUNTRY HAS GONE TO POT.

    • Mike

      Our Country has not gone to pot. It has definitely went down because of Obama and his bullcrap cutting all conservative causes and boosting all liberal causes. But our Country is still the greatest country in the world. It isn’t the freest anymore but it is the greatest and could be the freest soon enough. IT SHOULD BE WITH OUR CONSTITUTION but no longer is because liberals love to ideologue the law.

  • Larry Austin

    all these wars like Vietnam(as I) once stopped isis bring our fellow troops home saving lives and stopping further debt, they have been fighting like S.E. Asia thousands of years in wars never to be won and concentrate more ways on home security against any country coming here or threating missle or nuclear to our USA freedom for all American flag raised in it”s honor, love it or go someplace else keep your big money promoting our young people took take a knee when most do not even know the cost for their freedom of bloodshed wars to keep honor to our American flag

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  • OnTheRoad

    Let “Mad Dog” assess the situation there, and finally clean this crap up!

  • CUZIN ERN

    After the job climax’s, the hunt will/should begin world wide for lose groups of isis to make sure there is no rebound!

  • Richard Daugherty

    We don’t need to stay there at all. Time to take care of our own business. If we don’t get rid of Ovomit soon all these terrorists will be in the States shooting people.

    • Airborne869

      Already are…thanks to The Obama

    • cowgirl20

      Terrorist’s are already in America killing people, we have obozo to thank for that, don’t you follow any news?

      • BARRY SOETERO

        He must watch the MSM….”nothing to see here…..”

  • Vinnie S.

    Wake up ! Isis took all the equipment that the Iraqi “So called Soldiers” left when Obama announced ahead of time when the US would be leaving ! That is what started Isis off with such a strength when the Iraqis abandoned their positions.If we don’t have anyone there we are asking for the same thing to happen all over again.
    Yes we need to take care of America for sure and we can begin to do that by stopping the terrorist refugees from coming to America for a start, because we all know they aren’t refugees escaping for asylum they just want someone else to pay for their existence. I don’t care if this offends anyone because I have been offended enough by the current policies of this “Eight Year on Vacation” Administration………………… Tired of Politically Correct Crap

    • chaka

      That’s bullsh*!!! But then y’all NEVER let anything like the facts get in the way of your Hatred of Obama!!! Fact(1) W invaded WITHOUT an exit strategy and his Administration made the deal and set the date for American withdrawal! Fact 2)Saddam and his Military are Sunni Muslims, Malaki who W handed the Iraqi government over to is a Shi’ite loyal to Iran and insisted over the Obama’s objections that the Date set by W be honored!!!Fact (3) Because of the sectarian violence between the two groups he disbanded the Iraqi controlled military, notwithstanding the fact that many of the officer Corps were nearing retirement after having fought 3 wars over thirty years!!! All of a sudden they had no job and no retirement!! ISIS came in and offered them a paycheck, that’s why ISIS blew up once the entered Iraq!! Face it Bush OWNS Iraq whether y’all like it or not!!!!

      • Chuck Lynch

        Please take you meds madam. Everyone knows that the government created and resourced ISIS. Please do your research and knock off the CNN and Fox talking points!!!

        • Ca77andra

          Why do you assume that the poster is on meds??? And why support the pharmaceautical industry by saying that?? And why do you feel a need to insult the poster before making your point? It’s really not necessary is it? Seriously, I’d like to know because so many posters do that.

        • chaka

          Research??? I was gonna follow in my Daddy’s footsteps who was Intelligence officer for his “Ready Brigade” of the 82nd Airborne doing black bag ops from 1952 to 1968. When AFTER 18 combat jumps (1 behind the Iron Curtain) he resigned, rather then go to Vietnam saying the Gulf of Tonkin was a scam!!! I been doing my research every since then!!! I predicted 911 in 1979, that the Bush administration would NOT get Bin Laden in 2001, that “shock and awe” wouldn’t work in 2003 and that Iraq would turn into a quagmire!! In fact I haven’t missed it yet!! Wtf did you think that a 3000 year old culture with a 500,000 man army was gonna do when you invade them on a bullsh** tip, and worse put their ancestral (Shia who are loyal to Iran) enemies in charge??? It is no accident that EVERY occupation in History has failed!!! Eventually the invaders get tired and go home!!!! You need to pull your head outta your a**!!! Yes WE equipped them but INDIRECTLY because we trained and equipped Malaki’s Shia Muslims and when the shit hit the fan and they were facing battle hardened Sunni troops the Shia dropped their equipment and ran!!! Go back and look at the news reports from when ISIS invaded Iraq!!! It was a rout from the beginning!!!!

      • BARRY SOETERO

        “We will be in Iraq forever” …That !.3 billion that your boy sent to Iran will help!….(sigh), It’s hard for some to accept a DNC/Soros/Ohillary loss!

        • chaka

          Sigh!!! Stop with the Trump talking points !!! As y’all boy Ronald Reagan would say: “there you go again”! As we speak Hezbollah a Shia militia funded and trained by Iran is allied with Syria and supported by Russian Airstrikes is fighting ISIS AND American supported rebels as we speak!!!! See; this sh** is nowhere near as simple as your ideology would make it!!! Furthermore Obama simply paid them the money 400 million and the 1.3 million dollars in interest from an unfilled arms purchase made by the Iranians under the Shah, so it was their money to begin with!! Further there are six nations who were part of Obama’s sanctions against Iran and China and Russia had ALREADY said that they were gonna drop the sanctions if the US walked away from the deal which by the way was inked when Iran was ONLY 3 months away from enriching enough uranium to develope a nuclear weapon. Obama’s deal delayed that by at least ten years!!!

      • Osamao

        SLAP………………….SHUT UP LIBERAL PUKE! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b85d7425e7ba3d9842bf7539afbce1eecec9d8251f69c66ab1f2eadd300ae87d.jpg
        This DOMESTIC ENEMY owns it all!

        • chaka

          We can have different opinions not different facts!!! I ain’t Obama, i ain’t naieve enough to believe that the best ideas
          automatically win an argument, so when ignorant Rethulicans respond to facts like you just did I have decided to respond in kind from now on!!!So make me… and until you do, you can kiss my ENTIRE big black liberal behind!!!

          • Osamao

            Obamao’s a Jive Talker and you’re stupid.

          • chaka

            Stupid??? NOT!!!! Stupid is voting for a professional con-man who has made billions exporting American jobs and working immigrants for substandard pay to actually bring BACK American jobs!!! Stupid is voting for a man who promised to end Obamacare and now worrying about losing the benefits and coverage they received from Obamacare. Stupid is as stupid does!!! Voting for Trump is a little like the 98% of the South who didn’t own Slaves who went to war to protect Slavery, an institution that kept them poor for two reasons 1) Every able-bodied White Man had to donate part of his time to work on the Slave patrols 2) then they had to compete with the Slave owners at market. So who do you think could sell his cotton cheaper???

          • Osamao

            Stupid is voting for a man that intentionally tried to bring our country down. Stupider are those that still can’t see it. You’re dismissed.

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  • http://www.thenewcrusader.com/ Sir Dirty Harry

    The United Nations can maintain a 10,000 man force in Baghdad to maintain the peace.

    • VirgoVince

      The un is ON THE WAY OUT, too!!

      • BARRY SOETERO

        Amen Virgo!!

  • pmbalele

    What! Defense Secretary Ash Carter said that the U.S. and its military allies needed to stay engaged in Iraq even after driving the Islamic State out of Mosul. But Repubs, TPs and FoxNews and especially Hannity and his uncle Bill O’rielly were against ballooning the deficit. Well, Trump is their favorite and therefore they will not open their big mouths. These are hypocrites

  • AntiGOP

    “Wake up ! Isis took all the equipment that the Iraqi “So called Soldiers” left when Obama announced ahead of time when the US would be leaving ! ”

    Yeah you do need to wake up and READ the TRUTH…it’s called SOFA.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Status_of_forces_agreement

    ” Obama announced ahead of time when the US would be leaving !”

    That was because the agreement had already been signed before Obama was even ELECTED

    Educate yourself to the real FACTS instead of succumbing to the rhetoric…

    EVERY single troop had to be out by a specific date or face Iraq criminal laws.

    Its one thing to get people out in a hurry and another to get equipment out in that same time frame.

    Nobody was left behind…but equipment was.

    You can get hundreds of troops out on a C5A but only a dozen tanks fit on a C5A.

    You can’t leave troops without their equipment so taking it out first wasn’t an option.

    So in short…IT WAS BY FAR… a piss poor agreement signed by Bush/Cheney.

    But thats alright, you don’t see the damage your propagated lies and rhetoric have and will cause.

    But feel free to call yourself American at anytime.

    Even if the truth eludes you…

    “Tired of Politically Correct Crap”

    It’s because you can’t be correct if your Gullible…

    But here’s a good site to learn on… dhmo.org

  • Chuck Lynch

    He needs to be arrested and arrested immediately for sedition!!
    The government created and resourced ISIS, to be used as a political hammer to destroy the enemies of Carter’s bosses, the global corporatist bullies that have co-opted government policy!!

  • Buzz Waldron

    USA always planned to stay in Iraq, that’s why we built the world’s biggest USA Embassy there… but we didn’t use it because the Moslem contractors filled it with hidden microphones…

  • dahniuru

    I’ve had enough experience with Muslims to know that they will obey the dictates of the Quran as interpreted by the top Islamic Religious leader. And I know what the Quran says. And I know the history of Islam. For me, letting anyone into America, or letting anyone remain in America, who obeys the Quran and Imam rather than the Constitution and our country’s laws is very, very foolish; and dangerous.

    Don’t show me a photo of a Muslim mother and child and ask that I support them, or that I trust them. I’ve met the mothers and 8 yr old children carrying guns and ammunition and explosives to the Islamic soldiers trying to kill anyone who is not Islamic.

  • Hotnike

    Somebody tell Obama!!!!!

  • denniscerasoli

    We are not going to defeat an idea but we can contain it.There are about a billion and a quarter Muslims in the world with 15 to 25% that could easily be radicalized which means that there are millions willing to give their lives for a Califate or however way it is spelled.As far as Syria is concerned it should have never happened in the first place and the whole thing was orchestrated by outsiders and we will never get the whole story from our news outlets.I am for leaving Assad in power because the situation would be far worse in the hands of another group.I am also for allying with the Russians and concentrating on ISIS.

  • Ca77andra

    Here’s an idea: send all those young men coming into other countries from the middle east, train them and let them protect the people there. And oh, yes, train the ones that live there to protect their own country. Why should we always be the ones to protect everyone?

  • scooter

    I hope Mad Dog has a plan to take out the more rabid elements in the middle east, take back or destroy all the vehicles and equipment we have left there, and bring our boys back. As you can’t dictate peace to those who were brought up on hatred and war, we should put them back on camels, and leave it with them. They all hate each other, Sunni vs Shiite, one country vs the other, etc. But, they all hate us, and were brought up to consider us infidels – not worthy to live – their duty to allah to kill us. Sarah Palin had it right. We should back off so long as they are killing each other, cheer them on, and let allah sort it all out. Bush’s New World Order and Obama’s Muslim Brotherhood are about done here now. Send the refuges back wherever they came from, maybe accept Christian refuges, but otherwise slam our doors to anyone supporting sharia, or who does not want to assimilate. Trump has it right. Our overwhelming concerns are LOCAL, safety and prosperity for our families, jobs, good educations. Israel alone in the middle east really stands with us, and they should be the focus of any help for the middle east.

  • Osamao

    Ash Carter. Another overeducated sheet head from academia. That’s the problem. Harvard professors are frigging dangerous!

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