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Democrats Want GOP’s Help in Fixing Obamacare

According to a new report from The Hill, Democrats are turning to Republicans for help improving the clearly-broken system of Obamacare. The hope is that once the election is over (and Hillary Clinton wins) that Republicans will stop trying to scrap the Affordable Care Act and start trying to implement some changes…including, in a best-case-liberal-scenario, putting in a public option.

But without majorities on Capitol Hill, Democrats will not be able to turn Obamacare into universal healthcare and the Republican Party is not going to fund a government-run insurance company. On the other hand, they may be willing to work with Democrats to open up the marketplace and fix some of the smaller problems with the law.

“There are things we can do and need to do to address restoring competition in these exchanges, and my hope is when we’re through the elections and past the elections, we’ll do those,” Sen. Tom Carper, D-De., said.

Carper and other Democrats hope to work with Republicans to shore up out-of-season signups, which have been a problem for the insurance companies. Health and Human Services have altered some rules on special signups in an attempt to shut one of the law’s loopholes, which encourages people to sign up for insurance only after they’ve been diagnosed with an illness.

But those problems, realistically, are fundamental symptoms of a system that was never intended to work in the first place. Sure, we can spend the next decade plugging holes in the dike, but we’re going to wind up in the same place eventually. And when that day comes, we’re going to have to make a choice. Are we going to have a private healthcare market or are we going to bring socialized medicine to the United States?

Knowing that, it would be foolish for Republicans to abandon their opposition to this law. We are only months away from a national healthcare crisis. 12, 24, 36? We can’t say, but it’s coming. This system cannot continue to function as it is, and a few quick-fixes will only delay the inevitable. Republicans, do not get stuck holding the bag when this ship goes down. And do not stand idly by and watch while Democrats replace Obamacare with Obama’s true vision: Universal, European-style healthcare.

We’ll see what happens. If you don’t feel in a trusting mood, make sure that Hillary doesn’t take the White House. With Trump and a Republican majority, we can make American healthcare great again. Without those things…well, look to the last eight years for a sample of what to expect.

 


  • allenhip

    Some background on H.R. 3590 the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. (906 pages when passed in 2010).

    Unlike most of your readers I actually worked on a Legislative Committee in Florida that was making recommendations while the process was going on with direct access to Senate staff. During that time we had to read more than 6000 pages.

    The original plan came from Republican think tank that Democrats were asked to embraced. Some Democrats wanted HR 676 a Single-Payer System called Medicare For All. Obama wanted a Republican free marketplace system. For the record there were more than 120 Republican amendments that were passed in ACA. The biggest Republican recommendation was to create open market exchanges instead of making it a single payer plan.

    After it passed there were a number of states that tried to sabotage the Affordable Care Act full implementation which raised insurance rates. Also Congress wasted a great deal of time trying to repeal it. Most of your readers and elected officials never read H.R. 3590 in full.

    We need to work together to improve the health care benefits that are already helping millions of Americans every day. We refuse to go back to the days when health insurance companies had unchecked power:

    1. To cancel your health policy
    2. To denied coverage due to pre-existing conditions;
    3. To charge women more than men
    4. To be faced with annual or lifetime coverage limits that cause a sudden termination of care; or
    5. Have to choose between saving their life or their life savings because they lack access to affordable coverage.

    The Affordable Care Act is already helping to make health care more accessible and affordable for American families.

    Thanks to the Affordable Care Act:
    • 71 million privately insured people have gained improved coverage for preventive services;
    • 105 million Americans have had lifetime limits removed from their insurance;
    • 3.1 million young adults have gained insurance through their parents’ plans by the extend dependent child coverage up to age 26;
    • Over 6.6 million people with Medicare have saved over $7 billion in prescription drug discounts;
    • Medicaid and CHIP have helped millions of children access preventive care at no cost to families;
    • Expanded mental health for millions of Americans at no cost to families

    America doesn’t need a revolution to improve the Affordable Care Act we need an evolution with Democrats and Republicans working together to improve the healthcare delivery system regardless who’s in the White House.

    • mrpoohead

      I’m amazed you haven’t been besieged by nut-jobs telling you it is all Obama’s fault. W Europe, Canada, NZ and Australia all have state health care all of which are deemed (by WHO) to be significantly better than the US’s. I had my appendix out in the UK, my gall bladder out in Australia – emergencies. In/out and no fee demanded. How can the Hippocratic Oath condone “up-selling”?

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      • Dennis Burns

        And who the F is goin to do your brain transplant…Sorry buddy! my experience has been that foreigners must pay…When someone says its free, I tighten up the ol butcheeks..

        • Osamao

          Ask a lib to tell you something that’s free. They can’t answer you.

          • mrpoohead

            I did. Appendix and gall bladder – duh!

          • Osamao

            Pretzel logic. You didn’t.

          • Robert A. Clemons

            NO, WRONG. YOU DID NOT PAY FOR YOUR CARE, BUT TRUST ME, THE TAXPAYERS OF THOSE COUNTRIES PAID FOR YOUR FREELOADING ASS….

          • mrpoohead

            I was a tax-payer there at the time – thanks for caring.

          • Robert A. Clemons

            IN CASE YOU LIBS HAVE NOT YET FIGURED IT OUT, THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A FREE LUNCH…SOMEONE ALWAYS, ALWAYS PAYS FOR IT !!!

          • mrpoohead

            It’s called politics and balancing society. Australia highest minimum wage, Norway has invested over a million dollars in every citizen to pay for their future welfare. Clever! And, all of W Europe, Australia, NZ and Canada have better social disparity, social mobility and a much lower homicide than the US. Yep; truly evil that socialism stuff.

          • gerald Hughes

            No parasite irt was free some one else paid fpor it, just like they always do when you fing parasites start wanting it for free,
            Why not just admit you want some one else to pay for it parasite.
            You liberal dem bloodsuckers are the only known parasite that feed on it’s own species.

          • mrpoohead

            I was paying tax there. Equally if i went to France I was covered and vice versa for a Frenchmen – nice!

          • gerald Hughes

            No c-sucker businesses don’t get health care.
            They are who you worthless ticks are counting on to pay for your handouts.
            You will not get it.
            We will applaud as you die in the streets from lack of medical care.
            We are done with you, parasites, no more funning.

          • mrpoohead

            Business doesn’t require health-care people do
            No handouts, just fixed up
            What a great society you are proposing – very Christian
            What’s “funning” – poking fun at you?

          • gerald Hughes

            yep, still you want business to pay for your handouts,
            Nah we’re through with you ticks

          • mrpoohead

            I own the businesses, I pay taxes (in numerous countries) so I’m hardly getting handouts. Duh!

            What’s “funning” – poking fun at your idiocies?

            “Ticks” – did you mean “hicks” or do you think I’m Lyme disease? Ha, ha, ha!

          • gerald Hughes

            Yes of course you do liberal dem bloodsucker. You make 500k a year and pay 125 k a year in taxes and are happy to do so.
            Then to demonstrate your solidarity with your lesser fortunate liberal dem bloodsuckers, you go on line and whine and beg for handouts and try to raise taxes on some one else to pay for them.
            WHAT A GUY!

          • Peatro Giorgio

            Mrpoophead. Had you ever bothered to ask any FrenchmeN of what the truly thought of their nations health care system or any other European national health care system
            I have and their answers were all the same. Here’s my findings after having spent a couple of years in Europe. And having many Family members who live an work through out EUope.Thayer all said had it not been for the additional private insurance they purchased . The standard government tax payer provided heath care sucked. Yes most ate middle or above middle income earners.. They also noted as to how very long the waiting lines aRe and how poorly that health care is provided . Much the same as our failed Goverment provided V.A Health care system .For it also sucks.

          • mrpoohead

            I doubt you’ve been anywhere, I don’t know anyone with extra health insurance in those countries – why would you bother? I have spent more years overseas now as an adult than at home. Don’t know anyone with private health insurance. Try again!

            Suggest you check the figures – at no point has our health care system been better. the French invariably hold that position and i think the current listing pre-dates Obamacare. Nice try, no cigar.

          • mrpoohead

            PS Never met a Frenchman that wasn’t proud of the health service or a Norwegian proud of the welfare system, nor an Aussie who hated the best minimum wage in the world. Met plenty of American’s who hate themselves though.

        • mrpoohead

          Were you in any of those countries? If so you were scammed – duh!

          • alegalcitizen

            Then WHY did we have to have coverage when we traveled on vacation?

          • mrpoohead

            Errrrrrrr, because the travel agent wanted to sell you something? Duh! Money buster – suggest you grow a brain.

      • Osamao

        Another Communist Democrat Propagandist trying to justify the disaster with your Orwellian pretzel logic half truths and lies? Please keep feeding the flames of contempt for you Communist Democrats. PLEASE!!!!

        • mrpoohead

          If the US systems are deemed worse by independent people how can it be a fail? Another moron, trying to justify stupidity? Oh, and communist, democrat – slightly different ideology. Duh!

          • Osamao

            Because shut up Commie?

          • mrpoohead

            Moron?

          • Osamao

            That too!

          • gerald Hughes

            Cretin

          • rivahmitch

            What’s independent about a global kleptomaniacal bureaucracy?

          • mrpoohead

            What’s democratic about plutocracy were both parties represent the same thing and the same 5%?

          • gerald Hughes

            Very little fifference between communists and liberal dem bloodsuckers, actually the communists are probably better human beings

      • alegalcitizen

        hmmm, upvoting your own post?

      • river

        That wasn’t your gaul bladder they removed. It was your brain along with your common sense. Your gaul bladder is fine, and obviously in good health, as demonstrated every time your open your mouth about the socialist medicine that damaged America.

        • mrpoohead

          Gaul would have been a whole person removed in France, but I was in Australia and it was the “gall”. Oh, dear socialist medicine around the world has a better rating than the US system – obviously works some places. Maybe removing thumb from posterior helps?

          • river

            No MrPoopiFace, I was referring to the Gaul bladder that’s blowing BS from your blowhole under your nose. It sounds like a whoopi cushion on Nitrous Oxide.

          • mrpoohead

            Still not sure what this has to do with the French and I’ve only spouted facts unlike yourself and all the other retards on this page.

      • rivahmitch

        That’s only because WHO values giving everyone an equal right to die over allowing quality health care to some.

      • gerald Hughes

        Good, take your worthless parasitical fanny back there and stay there, leech scum bag

    • Osamao

      Old propaganda. Try again. The WHOLE truth.

      • mrpoohead

        Why is that propaganda? The truth is all other modern countries have state health care, all of which is deemed better than the US health care. World Health Organisation figures. Duh!

        • Osamao

          The Communist founded U.N. W.H.O.? That’s a propagated lie too. But didn’t you Communist Democrats solve that propagated lie with your disastrous Hitlerian T-4 inspired Obamaocare and war on the middle class?
          The newest leading cause of death. Death by bureaucracy. Thanks Democrats!!!

          • mrpoohead

            I suggest you read history – UN founded by? No such thing as Obamacare, merely media nickname. Reality is it was a two party proposal during Bush Admin that merely came to fruition during current Admin – debated in the House, passed by the House, announced by the President. Duh! I must say your deflection is amusing – so which modern country doesn’t have a health system? Bet you won’t answer – waiting………………………….

          • Osamao

            Alger Hiss lying Commie Democrat……………Pig Traitor?

          • mrpoohead

            Imbecile.

        • Osamao

          The truth is a lie……………..Poobrains.

        • alegalcitizen

          Are they paying for MILLIONS of non residents? You know like the illegal aliens, via Medicaid? Do they have over 300 MILLION residents? Are their premiums high and you have to pay up to 10,000 before insurance pays one cent?

          • mrpoohead

            Well Europe has considerably more “illegal” aliens and considerably more “refugees” – duh!. More residents means more income to support – stupid comment. No premiums, paid for via taxes – last time I checked UK basic tax was slightly higher – why would you have insurance when it is just “there”? Walk in, it’s your appendix, slice, dice, go home.

          • alegalcitizen

            hmmm, IF no one else upvotes your comments, you do it yourself??? I think it’s poo for brains.
            HOW do you know if Europe has MORE illegal aliens? We don’t know for sure how many we have here, so unless you can PROVE it, don’t say it.

          • mrpoohead

            USA figure stands at 11 million and shrinking. UK figures stand at 2 million, France similar, Germany same, most of the rest at around 1 million. They have more countries and significantly more ways to arrive – lots more African’s than Syrians fro example. They also take in far greater numbers of refugees – America individually has a higher number, but per capita European countries have many more, as do the Aussies, Kiwi’s and Canucks. Google has most of your answers – Europa is a stats place, created by EU. Whinger!

          • alegalcitizen

            upvoting yourself again I see, is that the ONLY way you can get votes?
            I LIVE on the Texas border with Mexico for 5 months of the year, so keep right on telling yourself that it’s SHRINKING. Got news for you pal, it is NOT.
            You can google your little heart out, it depends on WHAT they are posting. So you’re telling me all those central American “children” that obama is bussing all over the us to be with their illegal alien family members isn’t making the number go up?
            Sorry, you need to visit a border patrol station. Guess what ICE is standing with Trump, they’re tired of having their hands tied. Next!

          • mrpoohead
          • alegalcitizen

            DUH yourself, ANYONE can put whatever the want on wikipedia. Don’t care what they say, I LIVE on the damn border, I talk to the border patrol. whiney boy, ICE is backing Trump for the FIRST TIME EVER they are backing a Presidential candidate.

          • mrpoohead

            True, but it is also backed with references to books and government statistics, unlike your made up rubbish. Obviously the education system feels the same way you do which’ll explain why our education is now deemed the worst in the modern world (Europe et al) – they use it elsewhere of course. America number one for paranoia.

            ICE – that’s the ladies wear company right?

        • Robert A. Clemons

          THE UNITED STATES IS NOT A SOCIALIST COUNTRY, UNLIKE ALL THOSE THAT YOU ARE SO PROUD OF. YOU LIKE THE WAY THEY RUN THINGS, KINDLY MOVE YOUR ASS OVER THERE !!!

          • rivahmitch

            No. But with the Democommies and their HNIC and/or Hitlery in charge, we’re (unfortunately) getting there. The tree of liberty is in desperate need of refreshment. Semper Fi!!

          • Robert A. Clemons

            I AGREE 1000%…I TOOK MY OATH OF ENLISTMENT ON 1 APRIL 1977…STILL AS VALID TODAY AS IT WAS THEN.

          • gerald Hughes

            Correct, Semper Fi

        • rivahmitch

          and most of then are broke with declining economies. Could it be a pattern?

          • mrpoohead

            Germany’s economy still way out in front, Australia only country to not have had a recession since 1996. America’s capitalism has given the world the Great Depression and the current Great Recession – who’s bankrupt idiot?

        • TontonB

          Who ‘deemed’ other healthcare systems better than the USofA’s? Whose definition are you using? World Health Organization (learn how to spell this word. We spell with a ‘z’ not an ‘s’ mate). We, Americans, do not want to be part of, or follow, any world level organizations. We, the USofA, are sovereign citizens of a sovereign nation and will develop a healthcare system that is best for us. Not some Socialist model based upon failed state plans that cost taxpayers a fortune (France, Sweden, yes even Canada) So, give up your propaganda swill.

          • mrpoohead

            Ahhh; “failed nations” why? US capitalism has done the world a favour and brought us the Great Depression and currently the Great Recession – who’s bankrupt, who’s failed? Socialism bailed out the banks – duh! And if not, where would we be – anarchy? UK basic tax only 2% higher than US – it pays for welfare – not really a huge fail then.

          • TontonB

            If it’s so great in the UK, then why did you leave? Or maybe you’re still there. Whichever it doesn’t matter. Why? Because if you’re in the USofA we don’t want you here mate. It’s apparent that you have a hatred for capitalism and the USofA, and a love for Socialism. You’re not welcome here unless you embrace our culture and our pursuit of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. We got rid of you and your bloody monarchy in the late 18th century. Please leave the USofA, and please be singing or humming ‘God Save The Bloody Queen’. Piss off mate!!!

          • mrpoohead

            Two passports by parentage – acquired more, choose to live in neither of the first two. Both are dumps, the US being the worst.

            Capitalism not perfect either – balance is sensible. Capitalism gave us the Great Depression and the Great Recession. Uncontrolled loonies in any area – not good! And socialism propped up the banks in 2008 – without? Anarchy maybe? Only version of “God save the Queen” I like is by the Sex Pistols. Thanks for playing – fail!

          • TontonB

            The only failed state is that dump you call London. Due to your liberal, Socialist leaders your precious capital is overrun with Radical Islamic terrorists. This is what your precious spineless leaders have done to a once thriving city and country. Now your women are tougher than your men! What happened to the country that gave us leaders like Churchill and Thatcher? Socialists, that’s what happened to it. Your men are pasty and your women are strong. Brits are now afraid of their own shadow! This you’ve earned through cowardice and political correctness. You’re a disgrace to both passports. You don’t deserve either because your attitude is one of arrogance and condescension (typically British!). The British Empire is no more and within your lifetime you’ll see Great Britain under the Muslim flag. Maybe not the Scots, because they still seem to have not been emasculated… yet. Your flag should no longer be the Union Jack, but the Union Jacqueline. Buck up mate there’s a war comin’.

          • mrpoohead

            Obviously you cannot read – they are both (UK & US) dumps. I have been a lot of places and choose where to live.
            Suggest you stop visiting silly alt-right sites – scare-mongering over Muslim’s. Islamic terrorism makes up 5% of all terrorism (FBI and Europol figures). Try again. A few incidents are not representative of every Muslim, just as idiotic KKK missives do not represent all of the US – duh! No war coming!

            US currently bust, all Empires have their day. Will the US fall into the ignominy that was the Roman, Greek, Ottoman and Spanish ones or keep a semblance of respect; the British at least still have the Commonwealth and Queenie remains head of state in many places. If only we had sued for representatives in Parliament having won the Revolution, at least we wouldn’t then be stuck with a choice of Clinton/Trump – yuk! I suspect the place to fall apart. Thank God we left – both places, ugh!

          • TontonB

            So have I my naïve friend. I’ve lived in Europe 13 years of my life. Speak a second language fluently and know that Europe is lost to Islamic terrorism. I know and understand different cultures because I’ve lived and traveled to these cultures. So, don’t preach to me about not being well read or diverse in my understanding of other Western and non-Western cultures. I know more about other cultures that you can only fantasize about.

          • mrpoohead

            I took 14 years to hitch and work my way around the world, twice – nice try. Syrian refugees mostly in Turkey, Lebanon and Jordan – millions in fact. By comparison Europe has 10,000’s and they integrate. Attended wedding of Muslim and atheist this year. Get a life!

          • TontonB

            Sure you did! You’re a ‘one-upper’. Any response that puts you in an uncomfortable position causes a ‘one-up’ made up response. You’re a phony living in a fantasy world. You’ve created a nice imaginary persona. Climb out of the rabbit hole!!!

          • mrpoohead

            I only present facts, I do not write the gibberish that is these alt-right sites. I defend nothing but facts.

          • TontonB

            Ahh oui c’est juste…. t’es blanc comme la neige. You’re the worst kind of imposter. You invent large fantasies about yourself, and things you WISH you would have done with your life. When in reality, you’re a miserable failure!!! I don’t want to hear from you anymore… you’ve become extremely boorish!!!

          • mrpoohead

            No fantasies and now’t but facts – sucks to be you huh! All you have is hyperbole and BS, scaremongering saddo! Toodles then – kissey, kissey.

          • Peatro Giorgio

            You poor fool little. You have zero knowledge or understand of history . Capitalism has never caused any of the many ressessions or the 7 depression. What actual caused each of those occurrences was monetary policy and Tax policy. Each of our US Depression an ressesionary crisis were cured by the reductions of coropirate tax policy reducing coroperate taxes Brought about growth. Growth brought about nation wide prosperity. Look to Calvin Coolidges two term huge tax deductions ,JFK again huge tax deductions The Look to Reagan again huge tax deductions Then again under a Republican controled congress an The Contract with America Which Billy rapest boy signed into law. When it was ressession reoccurring was unervous new Administration who reversed tax policy raising taxes reducing the ability of the coroperate world to read invest Lay offs followed by higher an hyper inflation brought about by Federal Reserve boards reducing prime rates. Which limited the ability of the small mom an pops businessestablishment to borrow. Where as larger corporation where gobbling up dollars at lower rates . In a blind them to reagent their balance sheets, while leaving no room an no access to dollars for the smaller companies. You know jack shit about how the economy actually works . Even as I posses a minute comprehension of the same . Now look to those next presidents those after Calvin Coolidge Herbert Hoover yes liberal tax an big spender increased coroperate taxes even above what the rates were prior to Calvin Coolidge What then happen huge slow down in the economy which can be directly tied to the beginning of the Depression. The take a look at Lyndon Bynes Johnson JFKS vise president you succeeded JFK He to in creased Coroperate an personal income taxes which again began an economic slow down. The we had tricky dick head dick who disputed JFK so much so that tricky dick reversed completely all of JFKS economic policies setting the trend for a greater slow down and another ressession. The we had jerk offor G.H.W. Bush after Reagan once again Douche bush reversed course increasin coroperate an personal income taxes and once again a slow down followed by a ressession. The we had Billy rapest boy. Who in his first term again raised taxes.this Time however causing the election an majority in the house to switch over to a conservative congress . Who lead by then Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich developed the Contract with America a conservative restructuring plan for welfare reform social spending reforms while also providing tax relief for person and corporations low and behold we then so growth once again as well more revenues hitting our nations treasury which led to national revenue surpluses and great national debt reduction. But once again . We had a multitude of disasterous situation hit our economy 9/11. Hurricane Floyd an Katrina and increases in social welfare spending The wars in,Iraq Afghanistan causing an explosion of our debt. Then we got Mr idiot masterbaiter in charge. Who instead of reducing corporate taxes choose to increase corporate taxes. Causing further exodus of more an more corporation from our nation which led to not oby great amounts of job loses but a huge reduction of revenues coming into our treasury. Sure that adminasration claims greater revenus. But here’s the reason 18000 more IRS agents added to the roles chasing down tax deadbeats . Where as instead of reducing tax rates an increasing employment oppertunities. Idiot focus on the marginal sources . Had we had full employment with a 15% across the board tax rate our nation would prosper as Poland Ireland. Poland 15% tax rate Ireland 13% tax rate and now Britain is getting into the act The are head for an 18% tax rate. Capitalism is the only way to a pro serous nation. One where everyone share in it. There is no better system on eartH So long as we have ridiculous regulations tax rate with which limits growth our nation shall struggle our people shall suffer. Wake up Foolish children .

          • mrpoohead

            Blah, blah. The Great Depression and the Great Recession were both caused by a lack of regulation and irresponsible lending/credit. The former was fixed by WWII and the latter hasn’t been fixed – fingers crossed we don’t need another war, at least two generations.

            Tax rates all pretty much start at 20% in Europe – fail! Rates not falling. Only country to not have a recession since 1996 is Australia – higher taxes and highest minimum wage in the world.

            You are an imbecile – which is obviously why you waffle on. Gibberish!

          • Peatro Giorgio

            Damn each an ever new comment you’ve posted gives great insight as to the depth of your ill-informed ill-educated nature my friend are. Leading historians and annalist believe the Depression of Late 1929 through the late 1930’s 3 major causes which lead to the Depression. Federal reserve increasing of prime interest rates during the years of 1928-1929 then Staying Pat on those rates. Followed closely By Then President Herbert Hover who dramatically increased tax rates to historic Highs. Followed closely by His in acting of His Smoot Hawley Tariffs act .These 3 actions are directly link by most historian and most annalist. For what they point to as The Main 3 causes Followed by the Stock market Crash. Which then led to world wide bank failures. ” Market” collapse, Tariffs, Taxes ,Interest rates all ac-cumulatively Added to The depression . The Smoot Hawley Terriff Act was passed in June 1930. This act was responsible for raising US tariffs to historically high Levels . This act had been intended to protect Domestic Us Farmers against Agricultural imports from Europe after world war one. When then during the early 1920’s what occurred was a massive agricultural production in Europe.. Which then led to ever declining farm prices World wide. We can thank ! Dumbo-Rat Democrat President Herbert Hoover For the Depression For that idiot reversed Tax policies followed closely by is Liberal idiot colleges in the Federal reserve board,They who then raised prime lending rates. ” President Calvin Coolidge. Who during his 2,4 year terms had decreased taxes helping to bring about the roaring 20’s. When then. The US Observed a 1.5 % unemployment rate with a 1 3/4% inflation rate. Roosevelt New Deal actually prolonged the depression Oct 29 1929 beginning date of depression The depression continued until the onset of world war 2 Which brought about American men becoming part of our war machine opening up Manufacturing position for women, which then brought about full employment. The new deal was bull-shit . OVER REGULATIONS , EXCESSIVE PRIME LENDING RATES COMBINE WITH EXCESSIVE TAX RATES. Each of these have lead to Nearly every single economic slow down,recession Or depression. Economic recovers Begin with Balanced Prime lending rates,Combined with Fair reasonably moderate Tax rates. The only way to growth Is fair tax rates Which produces expansion of corporate growth,Which then incurs higher rates of employment. Which then leads to further growth. Which then leads to increased Government Revenues which then leads to further growth.In those industries such as roads and bridges Public buildings stronger defense , Which leads to prosperous times for all.

            ( Tax rates pretty much start at 20% in Europe ) ” Bull shit ” ” Ireland 13% ” Eastern Europe’s Poland 15% ” Very soon Britain’s tax rate shall be at 18% There is where economies will grow; while other Western & Eastern European’s economies shall remain on the decline.

          • mrpoohead

            Already destroyed your idiocies, maybe you cannot read just blather. Take it the links to tax rates in Ireland and Poland didn’t work?

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Recession#Causes

            Lack of financial regulation – funny how you just waffle and I provide justification. Suspect it’s because you have no substance.

        • gerald Hughes

          Stick low life lying liberal dem bloodsucking parasitical scumbag.
          You fing parasites spend your life trying to get someone to pay your way,suicide is the only answer for you scum.
          Go to europe with the rest of the parasitical life forms you will have free health care, if it’s that wonderful.

          • mrpoohead

            Unfortunately they do not offer hair care or anti-ugly pills on their system.

          • gerald Hughes

            Then why do you bother to go, cretin?

        • Hillaryoncrack

          The WHO is part of the UN. We need to get out of the UN and throw their HQ out of the country.

          • mrpoohead

            Why?

          • Hillaryoncrack

            1) It does absolutely no good.
            2) It is just another siphon hose on our already stretched economy.
            3) It’s a convenient avenue of entrance to our country for spies and other undesirables.

          • mrpoohead

            It is the future world government
            Each member pays according to GDP
            Paranoia – much simply would be assigning folk to an embassy
            Duh!

          • Hillaryoncrack

            The last thing we want or need is a “world government”. Jesus Christ, what is wrong with you people?!?! Your name says it all for me. And don’t ask me to explain why not either. Your brain is way to fried to understand. You’re so stupid I’m amazed that you remember how to breath.

          • mrpoohead

            Good news – won’t happen in our lifetime
            Bad news – it is coming, it is progress

            Suspect I’m more worldly and intelligent than yourself but that doesn’t say much does it.

          • Hillaryoncrack

            More worldly?? You’re just an asshole.

          • mrpoohead

            OooooooohH – pot calling the kettle black me thinks. You stick with the paranoia and the tablets.

          • Hillaryoncrack

            “Me thinks”?? Who are you, King Arthur? Oh, and upvoting your own submissions, classy. Jerkoff!

          • mrpoohead

            Not sure what is wrong with “me thinks” seemed quite appropriate. Up-voting amuses me and seems to irritate the buffoons. Duh! Schizophrenic or bi-polar?

          • Hillaryoncrack

            Up voting ones own comments makes one look like more of a loser than one already is. If you want to be amused I’m sure your keeper has some ornaments or fishing lures or other shiny objects.

          • mrpoohead

            …….and hiding behind “secrecy” is for sissy’s. Potato’s, potatoes. Get a life zippy!

          • Hillaryoncrack

            Who’s hiding poohead? Don’t you have a NAMBLA meeting to attend?

          • mrpoohead

            I had to look that up, you meanwhile knew all about it. Ha, ha, ha! Sissy in every sense of the word.

          • Hillaryoncrack

            It’s pretty much common knowledge. I thought you were so “worldly”. Or does your world merely consist of “Patels Liquor World”? Mealy mouthed cretin.

          • mrpoohead

            NAMBLA hardly constitutes being worldly – bit of a weirdo more like, which is obviously why you were aware of it. Am thinking “worldly” means you’ve been places and done stuff as opposed to living in a box with limited view. You’re still the sissy in my book.

          • Hillaryoncrack

            Since your book consists of mostly pictures, intelligent people care nothing about it.

          • mrpoohead

            Are you alluding to being intelligent? That’ll make me comparable with Einstein. Am going to assume you have nothing of substance to say and your idiocies have already been walked over. So, if nothing, I’ll say “adieu”.

          • Hillaryoncrack

            Adios scumbag.

          • Hillaryoncrack

            Since your book consists mainly of pictures, an intelligent person would dismiss it as juvenile.

          • GODBlessRealAmerica#1
          • mrpoohead

            Don’t care for Clinton, definitely don’t want Trump – I emigrated! Please don’t send anymore silly piccies – they’re pathetic!

          • GODBlessRealAmerica#1

            Crooked evil Hillary is pathetic! PRESIDENT Donald J Trump is a GREAT POWERFUL REAL AMERICAN!!!!! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5d9d01fde6718cdf847ed26c8de4160a9a32444019a6e85cff42e786b1064169.jpg

          • GODBlessRealAmerica#1

            Get a life you Liberal racist low energy pos!

          • GODBlessRealAmerica#1
          • GODBlessRealAmerica#1
          • GODBlessRealAmerica#1

            You stink!

          • Peatro Giorgio

            Mr.POOP head greetings ! Brought to you from one clear logical rational thinking,independent. One who is World traveled ,well educated ,well informed. A true Fiscal conservative, one who also posses Libertarian leanings, 1 of thee true original Tea-party Patriots. The Good news is that so called progressive progress. Shall soon end world wide. As now all the worlds people have become well aware as to the backwardness of the socialist & the not so progressive agenda’s .Take note to Brexit , Venezuela, s Collapse, The EU coming completely apart at the seems .
            Note to Poland , Ireland & Now the British are following their example of returning to a Capitalist Democratic Republican Form’s of governance. ” Yes ” Take Note as to how it is Ireland has a 13% tax rate,Poland a 15% tax rate & Now Britain is moving to an 18% tax rate. Reducing their taxes by nearly 75% as well their decrease in regulations & dramatically the size & scope of the regulatory bureaucracies . Yes your correct true Progress is advancing across the globe.That progress is sound Fiscal conservative Republic, Capitalism. Which also includes reversal of over barring regulations both financial & environmental. Returning to each nations people Individual Freedoms ,with Individual responsibilities Ending tax payer based welfare states,Yes ! Us we of all nations shall return to the days of National Sovereignty, securing our borders,Fair ,Just ,treatment of all our nations citizens, equal protections. No more extra special rights for any group or person. Fairness for all our nations citizens.
            Now That is what real progress looks like.

          • mrpoohead

            Fiscal policy – every country has one or it’s bedlam, whatever the political ideology of that country

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_in_the_Republic_of_Ireland
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_in_Poland
            https://www.gov.uk/income-tax-rates/current-rates-and-allowances
            Wrong. Brexit doesn’t mean anything – all that has happened is that UK has no representative at EU government. Try again. Turkey set to join EU at some point
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_enlargement_of_the_European_Union
            Think that means borders disappearing

            W Europe, Canada, NZ and Australia all have strong socialist parties – some in power currently and some not. Try again

            Suggest you listen to what grandpa has to say in future rather than falling asleep and picking out a few un-ripe cherries

            Fairness for citizens has more chance of happening under a liberal government – one that swings from socialist to capitalist. Unlikely to happen under a plutocracy were both parties represent the 5% and both right of centre. Duh! There is more freedom in all of the above countries than the US.

          • Peatro Giorgio

            Yes many nation do have socialist parties and eventually . Most Eastern European ,Western European as well all North an,South American nations Will abandoned an outlaw socialism. Fact is the world as you the useless worthless hoped it would become is now rapidly becoming your worst night mare.That being Now you have to depend upon your own skills your very own labor. Yes you an those like you will also be forced to be responsible for all your own actions and that of Your childrens . Freddie isn’t Free so get off your dead beat ass an earn your own way.

          • mrpoohead

            Which would be a dictatorship. As W Europe et al all have significantly better societies seems unlikely. The world is currently “worthless” thanks to rampant capitalism, brought to us by America. No rain-checks, no common sense. The world’s up the creek without a paddle because of idiotic lending, nothing to do with socialism – in fact most of those countries have simple rules like only lending 90% of property and three to four times income. As opposed to US – 200% and eleven times income. Who brought us the Great Recession? America – duh! Fail dopey.

            And i pay taxes in a number of countries so doubt I’l get hand-outs anyway. Go away you silly little man – you have no facts, just garbage.

          • GODBlessRealAmerica#1

            Crooked evil Lying disgusting Liberal thuggish Hillary …

            Did you have you’re Crooked Evil Hillary cereal today!

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/259a7e22b7e7e5935f6e93d0717815dfea1d3d37f94e8d0a6e8795bd8d01b27c.jpg

          • GODBlessRealAmerica#1

            liberal retard duh, Im a crooked evil lying racist Hillary supporter Im Proud duh!
            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/225b4205a9119083b5ba8d4abb8e24801bf031ac7b79d9fb1ca53fc67414ee2e.png

          • mrpoohead

            Proud of what – still not a Clinton fan, just dislike Trump more. Apparently Hillary doesn’t do sex, she gets Monica and Co in for that. Yo are a sad git – thank God we left! What a dump!

          • GODBlessRealAmerica#1

            poo poo did u use you’re new crooked evil lying Blow up Doll did u suk on it hard!
            Liberal trash lol here try wassertman Blow up doll https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/cb5e9c76893b6b6b60c678fd6b231e9ee12457e518a19e4836d2d728b425c9a0.jpg
            lmyassoff

          • mrpoohead

            I think you’ll find you blow “in” to a “dolly” and pump it with something else. Obviously this is were you are going wrong, which is no doubt why you are sad and lonely. Ha, ha, ha! Get a life zippy!

          • GODBlessRealAmerica#1

            why dont you kiss Obama You liberal zippy poo poo why are you so sick, vile, evil and low energy?https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b7f8f6f4b954ee52ef4127f96a7ff69e94e4f5869a0a518277e2f582282cd4bc.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f468a4c2c1d3202819c3c92bb9a59042beec7aa7a525de53dd09433feaeeb767.jpg zippy poo poo why are you so sick, vile, evil and low energy?

          • Hillaryoncrack

            It is nothing but a left wing drain on our economy. It does no good at all and allows spies and other vermin into our country.

        • alegalcitizen

          DUH, my friend in Canada died before she could see her cancer specialist.

          • mrpoohead

            What a dumb comment – some folk discover what is wrong quickly and some put off going to the doctors until it is too late. You insult your friend – moron!

          • alegalcitizen

            oops, there’s another upvote from yourself!
            She didn’t “wait till it was too late”, she couldn’t get in to see a specialist before she passed.
            PLUS try New Brunswick IF you live in that area, you wait FOREVER!! you insult yourself with you upvoting yourself -moron!

          • mrpoohead

            So are we talking a year or more, insurance or no insurance most have to wait to see a specialist.

    • TontonB

      Nice try Ace. However, the truth of Obamacare is that people who buy their insurance through an exchange are witnessing huge increases in their premiums. Why? Because the large majority of the insured have life threatening illnesses and are in the senior citizen category. In addition, large insurance companies (Aetna, United Healthcare et. al) are pulling out of the exchanges because their premium/claims payments is a fractional number. If Obamacare is so great, why are these insurers abandoning the exchanges? I’ll tell you. Because Obamacare was never designed to be successful. It is designed to fail, so people like you can say “oh we tried, looks like we really need a single-payer system”. You’re nothing but a propaganda shill for the mental midgets in charge of this country (for now). Spread your sewage somewhere else!!!!

    • RobertNorwood

      But over all it’s not doing what your King said it would. Go somewhere else for a bailout. What really pisses me off is that crying game democrats launched over “40 million uninsured”. Well Skippy, at least you got it down to 33 million. So what about them, where are they now?
      Your piece sounds good but it’s smoke and mirrors to a lot of folks.

    • GODBlessRealAmerica#1
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  • VirgoVince

    There is NO fix, it SHOULD have been shredded and NEVER passed, long ago, along with ovomit!!

    • RobertNorwood

      Especially now that we “know what’s in it”. Not like we didn’t but you know…

      • Walter Flatt

        WRONG ROBERT, IF YOU DONT READ IT, YOU DONT KNOW IT.

        • RobertNorwood

          Walter, anything they hack together behind closed doors and shove down your throat you know without reading it is bad. What’s in it without reading it? Bad shit.

    • William Ingram

      Roger that.
      SOLUTION. Firing Squad

      • maxx

        And John Roberts right with the traitors in Congress.

        • Osamao

          I think he might have been threatened/black mailed. Seems to be a pattern with this administration to the observant.
          That’s how Communist Democrats been rolling throughout history. Progressives are no different.

          • Beeotchstewie the deplorable

            Say it with me SHARIACRATS!

          • GODBlessRealAmerica#1

            The Democrackheads liberals…they stink~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

          • Beeotchstewie the deplorable

            They are not worthy of the air we breathe, that they are just stinking up.

          • GODBlessRealAmerica#1

            yup

          • If you didn’t notice, there were a couple of high profile articles about the Irish government looking into the adoptions of John Roberts’ two children just as the Obamacare was about to go down the tubes that disappeared within days of his switching his vote. His two children were adopted and have Irish mothers. Ireland forbids Irish children from being adopted by non Irish citizens. The mothers flew to a central American country and gave birth there as arranged by an international adoption agency making the children citizens of that country. When Obamacare first came before the court, suddenly the fathers were objecting to the adoptions via the Irish government. Funny the timing on that isn’t it. The fathers and Irish government didn’t give a crap about those two little kids for the first 5-6 years of their lives but suddenly were wanting to snatch them away from the only family that they had ever known. Roberts switches his vote and *poof* no more Irish government investigation. I wouldn’t be entirely surprised to discover that some of those 30,000 deleted emails included information about extorted a Chief Justice of the Supreme Court.

          • Osamao

            Heard something but never really saw stuff. Thanks for the dirt.
            Remember when Communist Democrat Diane Feinstein had a fit because she found the Dictators S.S, was spying on congress?…………See,,,,,,,,Dirt, How do tyrants come to power?
            Spying and control of information(media et.al.). Sound like the Marxist in the White House to you?

          • mrpoohead

            Communist, democrat, marxist – you do realise these are different political ideologies. Ahhhhh; thought not! Duh! And whatever the President is is immaterial, they lack power to do anything. The House is were it’s at. Duh!

          • Osamao
          • mrpoohead

            But this is more informative and what is taught in places of education and not dumb ass sites

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_ideologies

            Duh!

          • Osamao

            wikipedia? No thanks.

          • mrpoohead

            No worries – whoops your drivel though. Comes complete with references too – which you do not, well not with any substance.

          • Beeotchstewie the deplorable

            Good stuff thanks!

    • Obie Miller

      Amen!

    • AntiGOP

      Did you goto school to learn how to write like that…???

      • Wayne

        The only education needed is experiencing liberalism first hand
        and then having to pay the price for that !
        Any attempt to defend Obamacare at this point is out right lunacy !
        It does not warrant any attempts at fixing it because it is so damaging
        and democrats were warned it would be so prior to its becoming law !
        The fact that democrats could not even get the most moderate Republican to vote for Obamacare
        speaks volumes to Obamacares incompetency !
        The real nail and its coffin was when Nancy Pelosi said they have to pass it to see what’s in it!
        That exposed just how horribly derelict in their duty the Democrats are and how little the
        Democrat party cares about the American public which includes their own party members !

      • Yes, a school run by Democrats. It’s a wonder he learned anything at all

    • jreg9304

      Oblowhard, should never have been elected in the first place!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • Beeotchstewie the deplorable

        He wasn’t, legally anyway.

      • Laddyboy

        jreg9304:
        He was not elected.
        He was APPOINTED by FRAUD.
        The dead voted.
        Pets voted.
        ILLEGAL FOREIGN NATIONAL CRIMINALS voted.
        SOME people voted multiple times.
        Electronic voting machines were rigged to vote for 0-bama.
        Voting polls were “protected” by THUGS. ‘e.holder’ encouraged this action.
        Communities registered 100% votes for 0-bama.
        Communities registered 150% votes for 0-bama.
        The last two lines are STATICALLY IMPOSSIBLE!

        • jimshaw54

          Evan McMullin has entered the race and it seems he would be a far better person to hold the office of President of the United States than the two front runners we now have. If the three “other”candidates take enough votes from Clinton and Trump my understanding is that it goes to Congress, but I could be wrong in how that works. With such awful people at the top of the ticket is it a good move to try to get someone who actually has a thinking head on his shoulders.

          I would like others to look at Evan McMullin and hear what they have to say about him. It is certain that either Hillary or Donald WILL BE a disaster for the American people.

      • Under the definition of Natural Born Citizen used at the time of the writing of the Constitution, Obamao was never eligible to run in the first place. The term was taken from a book called “Laws of Nations” written in 1754 and states that a natural born citizen is the offspring of TWO citizen parents and born in the country. Obamao was never a natural born citizen. The reason for the natural born citizen requirement is to prevent the commander in chief from having divided loyalties in a time of war. It would be like Russian Spy Anna Chapman giving birth to a child fathered by Edward Snowden and having the child being eligible to run for president of the US upon turning 35. According to the Democrats that would be fine. According to the founding fathers, it would be disastrous.

        • jimshaw54

          Evan McMullin has entered the race and it seems he would be a far better person to hold the office of President of the United States than the two front runners we now have. If the three “other”candidates take enough votes from Clinton and Trump my understanding is that it goes to Congress, but I could be wrong in how that works. With such awful people at the top of the ticket is it a good move to try to get someone who actually has a thinking head on his shoulders.

          I would like others to look at Evan McMullin and hear what they have to say about him. It is certain that either Hillary or Donald WILL BE a disaster for the American people.

          I would like to get some feedback from people who have looked at Mr. McMullins web site and knows the ramifications of an essentially blocked election.

          • It doesn’t matter how smart or qualified any third party candidate may be, they stand NO chance of being elected. The system is rigged against them. The choice is either Trump (who will benefit significantly financially legally and it will certainly boost his ego) to do exactly as he has says, or Hitlery (who will benefit significantly financially illegally through expanding her corruption to even more areas of the government under her control.) His plan improves the standard of living of American citizens, hers lowers it. The choice is no harder than that. More jobs with high pay, less crime and fewer terrorists being imported disguised as refugees, or fewer jobs with lower pay, more crime and more terrorists being imported as refugees. Those are the two options. Trump or Clinton.

            As for the selection of President going to the Congress, do you really want a bunch of establishment politicians choosing who will be the next president? If you do, you might as well vote for Hitlery yourself because that is who they will choose no matter which party they belong to. If you don’t think that the Republicans in the House will back Hitlery, just look at how they have allowed her to get away with all of her criminal actions while putting on show hearings.

          • jimshaw54

            Can “a bunch of establishment politicians choosing who will be the next president?” be any worse than allowing a bunch of people, some who are dead, not U.S. citizens, or vote more than once, or don’t pay attention to the issues enough to know what is going on in this country, to pick who the candidates for the Presidency will be? Perhaps there are enough established politicians who have enough integrity to understand that neither Hillary nor Donald are fit to be our next president. Frankly, I am willing to take the chance that enough of them will decide that the American public deserves better than Donald or Hillary. They both lie through their teeth.
            I suggest you look up Evan McMullin and see if you don’t agree that he would be a FAR better president than either of the two front runners. If enough people are willing to back Evan McMullin perhaps even the densest of Senators and Congressmen will understand that the people don’t like either of the two evils that are vying for our votes to become our next president. If they are paying attention they should already know that the people are not happy with either candidate and are voting just because they think the candidate from the other party would be worse than their party’s candidate.

      • jimshaw54

        Unfortunately, neither should either of the two currently running be elected. Both of them will be (notice I didn’t say could, or would be) a disaster for the American people. Donald Trump has said that he would get rid of Obamacare, but then said he would put in place government paid for health care for everyone. Just how is that different from what has currently been forced on the people, other than it is complete socialized medicine rather than the terrible hybrid that Obamacare is?
        Evan McMullin has entered the race and it seems he would be a far better person to hold the office of President of the United States than the two front runners we now have. If the three “other” candidates take enough votes from Clinton and Trump my understanding is that it goes to Congress, but I could be wrong in how that works. With such awful people at the top of the ticket is it a good move to try to get someone who actually has a thinking head on his shoulders.
        I would like others to look at Evan McMullin and hear what they have to say about him. It is certain that either Hillary or Donald WILL BE a disaster for the American people.

    • Terry Rushing

      The only thing that the Dems need to do to get Republican backing is to threaten to “shut down government” and stupid, lying Mitch McConnell will be jumping out of his shorts to give them whatever they want. Mitch is the next thing to having Harry Reid in charge.

    • 7papa7

      They passed it by themselves they can go down by themselves. They are on there own with this disaster. This is just another democrat abortion.

  • Morton99

    If you take a breath and a cold hard look at the US healthcare system – it is pretty obvious that privatized healthcare will not solve the problems. Essentially it was in free fall when Obama came into office.
    You don’t have to be a mathematician to understand that the HMOs are pencil pushers that take 1/3 of every dollar spent by those with insurance policies. Contrary to myth, the SSA (social security administration) operates extraordinarily economically at a cost of approximately 2 percent of the monies allocated. I see no practical alternative by an expansion of Medicare to cover all Americans – run by the SSA.
    To turn healthcare back to private operators is suicide for a political party. It would create millions literally of furious voters with no healthcare that they could afford.

    • Robert A. Clemons

      IF I WANT SOCIALIST MEDICINE, I WOULD LIVE ANYWHERE BUT HERE IN THE U.S. BUT I DO NOT, SO I HAPPILY STAY IN THIS REPUBLIC, THE U.S.of A.

      • Morton99

        There are two camps of Americans who do not want cheaper healthcare with more coverage. They are either extremely wealthy or extremely stupid. Now which are you ?

        • Robert A. Clemons

          I AM NEITHER…I AM A FREE THINKING, REFUSE TO BE A DONKEYRAT SHEEPLE, EDUCATED, INFORMED AMERICAN CITIZEN.

          • Morton99

            OK. Extremely stupid.

          • Robert A. Clemons

            WRONG, YOU OBVIOUSLY MISSED THE PART WHERE I SAID I AM NOT A MEMBER OF THE DONKEYRAT PARTY…TRY AGAIN LIB….

          • Morton99

            No, I put that down to your stupidity.

        • Robert A. Clemons

          WHICH IS CONSIDERABLY MORE THAN I CAN SAY OF YOU & YOUR ILK.

          • Morton99

            I have two pets, but no ilk. And they can only get private insurance unfortunately. I would like to see some public options for them too.

          • Robert A. Clemons

            OH OF COURSE, HAVE EVERYONE ELSE BAIL YOUR LAZY, WORTHLESS ASS OUT…TYPICAL COMMUNIST ATTITUDE.

          • Morton99

            Actually, I pay a lot for insurance – I just hate paying the mafia like HMOs who do little more than do the billing – 1/3 of every dollar on my premium.

          • Robert A. Clemons

            WELCOME TO YOUR GOD OBOBO WORLD…HE FUCKED EVERYONE WHEN THE DONKEYRATS SHOVED IT DOWN THIS COUNYTRYS THROAT…

        • gerald Hughes

          There is only one kind of person in the USA that expects someone else to pay for their health care, the liberal dem bloodsucking leeches.
          Buy it or do without,

          • Morton99

            I guess you have no concept of what insurance does.

          • gerald Hughes

            I know exactly what insurance does liberal dem bloodsucking cretin.
            I have been responsible for buying insurance for 128 people for 38 years.
            I also know what, a parasite does, too, I have been dealing with you scum for 60 years.

          • Morton99

            I suspect your idea of healthcare is the publicly funded Emergency Care facility and the insurance cards are requests for welfare from people you are responsible for. Are you a preacher perhaps ?

    • gerald Hughes

      Hold your breath liberal dem bloodsucker, just as soon as they all, pay in for 40 years they will be elgible, till then they can pay for it or do without.

      • Morton99

        So you are opting for suicide for the Republican party – because that would be their reward.

        • gerald Hughes

          Cretin, you are dumber than a metamorphic rock.
          How many times do we have to tell you results of an incestuous one night stand between a liberal dem bloodsucker and a giant river leech.
          It’s not about politics now, you incredibly stupid life form.
          You ninnys continue to think that all you have to do is talk.
          Buy weapons and kevlar, cretin, that is what you will need.

          • Morton99

            I can only judge evil from the poison that flows from the evil-doer’s mouth and boy yours is toxic.

          • gerald Hughes

            Still yapping, aren’t you?
            Amazing!!!
            Your opinion will not be considered.

          • Morton99

            It was a rhetorical statement – but you couldn’t resist barking now, could you. Oh the bombastic touch was nice.

          • gerald Hughes

            Okay, that’s enough as always you liberals become boring

            Goodbye.

  • davesnrakleberger

    dems just looking for a fall guy. Run, gop, run

    • Conservative

      It was built on a lie, now let them try to fix it or just turn the entire mess over to Trump and the Republicans”
      Rip it up, bleach it, delete it – like Hillary did with the e-mails about her ‘Yoga classes and kid’s wedding”.

      • sox83cubs84

        You mean the “bow-wow’s” wedding”. 😉

        • Hillaryoncrack

          She is most unattractive isn’t she?

          • maxx

            YUP, looks a lot like Webster Hubble her mothers co-worker at the Rose Law Firm in Arkansas.

          • Hillaryoncrack

            Webster must have gotten tired of jerking off.

  • daveveselenak

    You mean the other half of the two-headed, one totalitarian party, the treacherous “Re-PUNK-licans” which will be more than happy to oblige and further the NWO agenda! REVOLUTION will be the SOLUTION – guaranteed; that is why we are experiencing all of these black ops shootings as they must disarm “US” so these Godless, Satan worshipping power mad ghouls can have there way with us with impunity! Armr=============================?, you will be needing them!

    • AntiGOP

      daveveselenak

      Real American FENCE sitter…

      Go baby sit for your neighbor…pal…

      • daveveselenak

        GO FUK YOURSELF, ASSHOLE!

        • AntiGOP

          Guess your neighbor didn’t want you sitting for them either…

          • gerald Hughes

            Time to post names and addreses of garbage like you.

          • AntiGOP

            ooooh…I’m scared…

            Blow Me…asshole

          • gerald Hughes

            3 to 5 weeks, i’ll post your name and address, brave guy, let’;s see how you do when you have to look into someones eyes, liberal dem bloodsucking tick.

          • AntiGOP

            3 to 5 weeks…that how long it take to get your head out of your ass???

            Just wondering…

          • gerald Hughes

            Don’t need it liberal dem bloodsucking parasite, I just send all of your posts to all of the military blogs in the country, 3 to 5 weeks they will post your name and address.
            The Military is the ultimate meritocracy, they despise you liberal compost heaps..

          • AntiGOP

            Is that where you got your brains, compost heap….

          • gerald Hughes

            May I suggest suicide low life liberal dem bloodsucking parasitical scum bag?
            You have nothing , no reason to live.
            Done expeditiously, you can effect it before your family finds out that they are related to you, no point in hanging that cross on them for life.
            You have lived your entire life as an item of no value, suicide would allow you to pick some really shoddy ground and as your body decomposes, enrich the soil and finally, have a modicum of worth.

          • AntiGOP

            ooooh…now I’m really scared…

            Your the Ultimate Asshole…

            They must love you…

          • gerald Hughes

            Still trying to get by robbing little girls in lemonade stands?

          • AntiGOP

            Never thought of something like that, so thats what you do to scrap out a living…
            Do you goto church when your done and repent…

          • gerald Hughes

            Just explain to your daughters that you have to help get the Clinton outlaw elected, they won’t mind if you pimp them out.

        • Last of the patriots

          Just the way your ignorant apes solve things, violence and name calling. Your just a pathetic excuse for a human. Get an education

          • Pam Dunn

            More moronic spew from another idiotic turd.

        • AntiGOP

          You wish you could fuck me…you’d never go back to sheep…

      • gerald Hughes

        Kill yourself liberal dem bloodsucking parasitical scum bag.

        • Jimmy Quick

          Obama named this one correctly. “Barry Care” is a perfect example of his entire fu*ked up presidency.

          I hope Trump brings enough rope with him to DC to hang them all.

          • Last of the patriots

            He might as well start buying it now, alot of those anti-American traitors. May not be enough rope

          • gerald Hughes

            Big amen

          • Granny Filec

            THE WHOLE GOVERNMENT IS CORRUPTED……….GONNA NEED A LOT OF ROPE……..

        • AntiGOP

          Were U up all night coming up with that one???!!!!

          or

          Did it come to you between injections..!!!

          • gerald Hughes

            I was trying to be kind you obviously have no reason to live, think of your family.

  • AntiGOP

    When you ask these cumservaturds…what is the basic definition of Insurance…they fail as expected to answer.

    But they do know the definition of GREED.
    Well maybe not..!!
    But the GREED lives on…

    “Most of your readers and elected officials never read H.R. 3590 in full.”

    Alt-Right Cumservaturds never read H.R. 3590…any of it..!!

    Least that’s my impression when I try to debate them.
    All they do is their typical puke crap and run routine.
    I don’t want to talk about it anymore…they say and RUN…

    Same thing they do in Congress…and this is why nobody can compromise with them.
    They don’t get it 100% their way…shutdown.

    The behavior to attain 100% control is SHUTDOWN and Run…

    Same ole Same ole crap everytime.

    • gerald Hughes

      We are not going to debate you you worthless fing leech, we are going to make you pay for your insurance or do without, hopefully you will die in the streets from the lack.
      Shut down is as good as it gets, when it’s shut down you parasites can’t spend it.

      • AntiGOP

        But you asswipes are the real spenders…2 wars $12 Trillion and on going…
        All you know how to do is cripple and destroy everything around you…

        You can’t fix a fucking thing because your mental cripples.

        Bomb the Shit Out of everything and everybody…

        Brilliance beyond belief…!!

        • gerald Hughes

          That it liberal dem bloodsucker?
          That is your justification for being without merit, worth, value, morals honor or integrity?
          That is your justification for being a tick, leech and parasite on the body of working, earning people?
          Walk out into the Arizona desert, take rat poison, lie on the shoddy soil, as your body decomposes and enriches the shoddy soil, finally, you will have some worth.
          if you do it expeditiously, you can effect it before your family finds out that they are related to you.
          No point in hanging that cross on them for life.

      • AntiGOP

        Your not intelligent enough to debate anyone on anything…

        You have proven that beyond a doubt…

        Go back to sleep since you have no job…

        • gerald Hughes

          Still trying to live on short changing little girls in lemonade stands, tick?

  • RobertNorwood

    Of course they want our help…our help in bailing that f’cking mess out. Burn it down and start again. Toldja so, toldja so, ha ha we toldja so…some times it’s nice to be a “toldja so”.

    • Every time the libtards screw up, they come running to the grownups to fix what they destroyed. This time, they need to sit in the diapers they soiled until they grow up enough to clean up THEIR damned mess

      • maxx

        You have that right. Look what they have done to the education in this country. Another total disaster.

      • RobertNorwood

        Exactly, they’re children and that’s what children do.

    • maxx

      The whole point of the ACA was to make people that normally purchased their own insurance pay way more so people that would not buy their own get insurance at very subsidized prices. But according to hospitals these people still visit E.R.s because they don’t even want to pay the copay amounts.

      • terry b

        Maxx: I agree that we need to do something, however, we also have to repair the cost of health care. Go to the hospital and check the billings, go get tests done then you will see way the whole system needs to be overhalled.

        • maxx

          You get no argument from me. If fact I worked on a Pharmacy System at a very large hospital. Because I was working on their software I ran across absolute proof that the billing for drug prescriptions dispensed in the hospital was more crooked and dishonest that I would have dreamed. The government send a monthly update to the drug formulary(list of all standard drugs) a hospital uses for billing purposes. The government actually tells the hospitals how much they can markup the drugs to the patients. I found the highest percentage was 4000%. So if a hospital pays $1.00 for a drug they get to charge the patient $41.00. Back then the average markup was based on the cost to the hospital. The higher the cost the higher the markup. The government was basically promoting “price gouging”. Since the hospitals would pay business taxes on their income that would give the government more tax revenue. Something really stinks when a government is allowed to get away with doing that.

  • AntiGOP

    Best healthcare in the world 1# France

    The entire population must pay compulsory health insurance. The insurers are non-profit agencies that annually participate in negotiations with the state regarding the overall funding of health care in France.
    France provided the “close to best overall health care” in the world.[1] In 2011, France spent 11.6% of GDP on health care

    According to the World Health Organization (WHO), the United States spent more on health care per capita ($8,608), and more on health care as percentage of its GDP (17.2%), than any other nation in 2011.

    And that’s a FACT you can take to the BANK…

    If you have any money left…

  • bibleanda44

    Republicans tried several times to help, but either Reid wouldn’t allow the repeal vote in the Senate or Obama vetoed the one that passed.

  • AntiGOP

    Burn it down and start again.

    Brilliant mentality…it’s exactly why we can’t get anywhere with these assholes.

    Republicans tried several times to help…

    Help isn’t molding something into making Insurance CEO’s Richer.

  • AntiGOP

    bailing that f’cking mess out.

    You know nothing about health Insurance pal.
    That is very obvious…
    So go back to sleep…

    • gerald Hughes

      Bite it liberal dem bloodsucking parsitical scumbag, the decent people are not going to bail you leeches out.

  • gerald Hughes

    This is insane, the worthless low life liberal dem bloodsuckers passed the insurance rape in the middle of the night and jammed it down our throat.
    We have been telling you for 6 years it was a pos now the liberal dem bloodsucking garbage want us to help them fix it!!!!
    The liberal scum are completely insane, we can’t coexist with these scum, we must physically separate ourselves from them it is that or civil war.

    • Robert A. Clemons

      AGREED, THEY PASSED IT WITH LITERALLY NO REPUBLICAN VOTE IN SUPPORT OF IT…NOW THEY ARE CRYING & BEGGING THE REPUBLICANS TO FIX IT…ME, I WOULD & WILL TELL THE DONKEYRATS…GO PISS UP A ROPE !!!

      • gerald Hughes

        let the leeches die in the streets if they don’t want to pay for insurance

        • Granny Filec

          HAVE NEVER LIKED OBAMACARE & HOW IT WAS HANDLED……..HOWEVER, A FRIEND THAT HAD A MAJOR INSURANCE COMPANY WAS CANCELLED BECAUSE HE GOT CANCER………THE ONLY THING HE HAD LEFT TO DO WAS SIGN UP FOR OBAMACARE……..

          WHILE OBAMACARE IS GIVEN TO THE ILLEGALS/MUSLIMS……….THEY ARE MAKING THE LEGAL CITIZENS PAY OUTLANDISH PRICES FOR THE PRIVILEGE………..NOT ONLY THAT, BUT NOW WE ARE PAYING MORE FOR TO OUR PROVIDERS BECAUSE OF BOZOCARE…

          • gerald Hughes

            Sorry, I am completely ourt of concern, caring and compassion for the liberal dem bloodsucking parasitical leeches, i just want them to die. and get away from us.

          • Morton99

            Frankly, the last thing on earth I would want is your blood. I would take a tequila sunrise over it – any day.

          • gerald Hughes

            Then why do you keep trying to take it, liberal dem bloodsucking parasite/tick/leech?
            You talk thetalk but you worthless life forms fall down a lot when it;s time to walk the walk.

          • Morton99

            Oh believe me – I would smell any substitute in my cocktail – such as your blood – long before it hit my lips.

          • gerald Hughes

            Nope sorry cretin don’t believe you, you liberal dem bloodsuckers/ticks/leeches,. will strike at anyone.
            You have no merit, worth, value, morals, honort or integrity, you will steal from anyone.

          • Judging by your posts here, you’ve been “taking tequila sunrises” 24/7 ever since you turned 13. Two whole years of boozing: no wonder you’re such a libtard

          • Morton99

            May I recommend some imodium – your verbal diarrhea appears to be out of control. I understand it is a hereditary thing with rock dwellers so back into your hole with you. And close the door behind you to blot out lingering stench.

          • No you may not recommend. No one asked for your recommendations,, because no one with a brain gives a frogs fat ass what you say

      • allenhip

        The newly amended bill eventually passed the House of Representatives at
        11:19 PM EST on Saturday, November 7, 2009, by a vote of 220-215.

        The bill passed with support of the majority of Democrats, together with one Republican who voted only after the necessary 218 votes had already been cast. Thirty-nine Democrats voted against the bill. All members of the House voted, and none voted “present”.

  • Evan

    Throw obama-no-care in the trash along with obama!
    Neither one is worth a CRAP!

  • downs1

    You can’t fix Obama Care! It is irreparable! You have to deal first with the Democrats who are so utterly foolish and intellectually blind in order to even have an intelligent conversation about why this fiasco is such a failure! The administration of health care is worse now than at any time in history! When that happens, people die! Good doctors quit because they can’t take care of their patients! Bad doctors milk the system! Roughly half of the information in a patients record is out of date or plain incorrect! This leads to mal treatment and worsening of the patient’s condition. And Big Pharma goes right on pushing its drugs and milking the system as well! “If you have any of these side effects, call your doctor right away!”

    • Morton99

      It has covered many millions of people who were previously unable to afford healthcare. The only issue is that the HMOs are hissing that they can’t make enough profits.

      • Granny Filec

        I AM HOPING YOU ARE MEANING THE MILLIONS OF ILLEGALS/MUSLIMS THAT ARE ABLE TO OBTAIN IT FOR A $.01 A DAY………WHEREAS THE LEGAL CITIZENS ARE PAYING $450.00 A MONTH……SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS THE LEGAL CITIZENS ARE PICKING UP THE COST OF WHAT THE ILLEGALS/MUSLIMS ARE NOT PAYING.

        • Morton99

          What is it Granny ? Early Alzheimers ? Take your finger off the CAPs key and think hard. Tell me more about ‘ THE MILLIONS OF ILLEGALS/MUSLIMS THAT ARE ABLE TO OBTAIN IT FOR A $.01 A DAY.’

          • Granny Filec

            YOUR PROBLEM IS THAT YOU COULD LOOK UP THE COST FOR ILLEGALS/MUSLIMS AND YOU CHOOSE NOT TO DO SO………..YOU ARE THE ONE THAT SEEMS TO HAVE ALZHEIMERS……

            BECAUSE ONE MAN USED CAPS AND STATED “I AM HOLLERING BECAUSE I AM MAD”…..THAT IS NO REASON FOR ME TO DISCONTINUE THE USE OF CAPS………..I DO NOT FOLLOW THE RANTS OF SOMEONE LIKE YOU THAT IS MENTALLY HANDICAPPED.

    • Granny Filec

      IT IS GOING TO TAKE A DECADE TO FIX THE USA…….AND ALL THE PROBLEMS BOZO HAS CREATED……

      HOPING THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP CAN DO IT IN 8 YEARS.

  • TAM44

    No republican voted for this monstrosity and should tell the democrats shove it up your pelosi’s, you didn’t even read the crap before you shove it down the American citizens throats.

    • allenhip

      The newly amended bill eventually passed the House of Representatives at
      11:19 PM EST on Saturday, November 7, 2009, by a vote of 220-215. The
      bill passed with support of the majority of Democrats, together with one Republican
      who voted only after the necessary 218 votes had already been cast.
      Thirty-nine Democrats voted against the bill. All members of the House
      voted, and none voted “present”.

  • Hillaryoncrack

    I know how to fix it. Shitcan it, that’s how. The Demonrats took a perfectly good health care system that worked fine and F’ed it all up so it probably can’t be put back together again.

    • Morton99

      Well you chose a good avatar because you write like you are on crack.

      • Sgt. York

        And your pic says your on it as well

        • Morton99

          Is that really the best insult you can dish out ?

          • Sgt. York

            Not an insult it’s an observant statement. I’m 81 and I still look as sober as I was 60yrs ago we’ll see if at 81,if your still here how you look then

          • Morton99

            You are getting garrulous. Look it up.

          • Granny Filec

            WOW……….GUARD OF THE FORT………YOU WILL HAVE TO EXPLAIN THAT ONE………

          • Morton99

            excessively talkative, especially on trivial matters.
            “Polonius is portrayed as a foolish, garrulous old man”
            synonyms: talkative, loquacious, voluble, verbose, chatty, chattering, gossipy

          • Granny Filec

            YOU REALLY NEED HELP………..YOUR HANDICAP IS AFFECTING YOUR THOUGHTS AND YOU HAVE NO IDEA ABOUT ANYTHING THAT GOES ON IN THE USA…….YOUR WORDS ARE COMPLETELY ERRATIC…… YOU ARE COMPLETELY ANGERED OVER ANYONE THAT THINKS DIFFERENTLY THAN YOU………GO BACK TO YOUR BASEMENT………YOUR STEP FATHER HAD THE RIGHT IDEA……

          • Pam Dunn

            And for you add “Totally Moronic spew from an idiot.”

          • Yip Yap

            Wow…you’re making your point.

          • Hillaryoncrack

            Sounds like Hillary to me.

          • You’ve been excessively talkative since you got here.

          • GODBlessRealAmerica#1

            Liberal low energy racist angry liberal thugs should be deported!

          • GODBlessRealAmerica#1

            Low energy weak liberal racist hateful Liberal lowlife! Thuggish liberal. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6fabaf1d26f95e8aa1e55f36bf4c13bfc1f571b068bcf592397c0f167626a489.jpg

          • Morton99

            Oh my – you are following me around like a bad smell. You must be dog poo. Excuse me while I clean my shoes.

          • Pam Dunn

            Been out on the street corner sniffing up farts? Your spew show a definite lack of brain cells; Maybe its your LONG TERM Recto-Cranial Insertion Syndrome.

          • Morton99

            You really are a dirty old b*tch aren’t you !

          • Hillaryoncrack

            There it is!!! It doesn’t take long with you losers before the name calling starts.

          • Morton99

            Oh do me a favor. She loves being trashed. Just look at her posts !

          • Hillaryoncrack

            Are you saying she is some sort of masochist?

          • Morton99

            Oh without a doubt !

          • GODBlessRealAmerica#1
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          • GODBlessRealAmerica#1
          • Hey dummy, Hillary isn’t here…. or are you talking to your mommy because she won’t make you any more Pop Tarts until you clean your room?

          • Jonathan Brooks

            I think Morton is a Cheetos fan. Much dust on the board and screen.

          • GODBlessRealAmerica#1

            You are really a Liberal low energy Racist thug bi^^^ Aren’t you… https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/420e26c996838c43b96f7f31238d95af44ab8fd5beccf1bac1771b283ce766d0.png

          • mrpoohead

            Big words for ugly people – did you have to look them up?

          • Sgt. York

            You posted to me not the other way around so I think it’s really the other way around. A mirror image sometimes fools the original observer and that’s you

          • Morton99

            I defined it for you all, a couple of posts below. Its hard dealing with people who have such limited vocabularies.

          • Sgt. York

            After looking above and below I see your not reall liked here and it would be to your and our benefit if you would go on outside and play with the dog. No more trash mouth thinkin your the man as I get things much more interesting to do than read a fool with a computers blabber.

          • Morton99

            I have a ot of friends – no need to come here to find more. I come in peace – and am willing to help you in understanding the depth of the delusion you have been encouraged to believe.

          • Osamao

            All your friends are in your head.

          • The only deluded person here is you, encouraging everyone else to be a blind smurf like you, who will obediently get on his hind legs to march into a voting booth and sign your X for Hillary Clinton, the most malign criminal to run for office in American history

          • and you are a retromingent reactionary. Have your mommy look it up for you

          • GODBlessRealAmerica#1
          • Granny Filec

            MAYBE MORTON IS A SENIOR CITIZEN ALSO BUT POSTING A PICTURE WHEN HE WAS ABLE TO PLAY THE GAME……….

          • Sgt. York

            Yes and if the dog haven’t stopped to crap he would of caught the rabbit to.

          • Pam Dunn

            Well we could say that you LOOK like and probably ARE a totally ignorant moron who hasn’t a single clue on how to dress or the proper way to wear a baseball cap. You probably have trouble wiping your butt too.
            Now back to your pig sty.

          • gerald Hughes

            There are so many to chose from when you are talking about a worthless low life liberal dem bloodsuckers it’s hard to pick out the best one.

          • Morton99

            Well give it a shot – try and impress me with your skill – if you have any.

          • NONE of the people who voted for ObamaCare will EVER be a part of it. The fact that you’re so blindly, viciously obtuse that you can’t recognize that is reason enough for every thinking person here to realize what an utter waste of time you are.

            Your mommy called, she said to finish your coloring book and get ready for your nap. Because us grownups need some alone time

          • GODBlessRealAmerica#1
          • GODBlessRealAmerica#1
          • GODBlessRealAmerica#1

            u on democrack?

        • GODBlessRealAmerica#1
      • Hillaryoncrack

        I write the truth. Something you morons wouldn’t recognize if it jumped up and bit you in the face.

      • wow, great comeback. Did your mommy help you with the really big words?

      • GODBlessRealAmerica#1
      • GODBlessRealAmerica#1

        You little liberal trashy demoracist thug

    • maxx

      Actually all the health insurance companies that are still in business have saved and archived the software that was used before OvomitCare was shoved down the publics throat by the democommies. They could resurrect everything in a matter of a few months. Good business people anticipated ObamaCare would die from it’s own weight upon society.

      • Hillaryoncrack

        Hope you’re correct. Makes sense.

  • PatriotGal

    Yet, they raped Medicare, stealing billions from it to shore up OWEbamaTAX – give back the money to Medicare and let the OWEbamaTAX implode.

  • jimshaw54

    Most people today do not understand the roots of why we have the “health care”problem in the first place. It was when government put a ceiling on wages that some employers began to give their employees a bonus by providing health care in lieu of an increase in wages. Over the years this “bonus” became a “right” that many employees came to expect. Now government is at the point of mandating that everyone has to have health care. This is not the way a “free” society works, but too many people have become comfortable with “government” taking care of them and giving them “free” stuff that it will be extremely difficult, if not impossible, to turn around.
    The problem is that government actually is us, and the money first has to come from us before it can be given back to us — but with a huge chunk taken out of our money in the form of “expenses”,( i.e. the vast number of Federal Employees who get paid good salaries and “benefits” to manage our money that government has taken from us).
    Government never seems to be able to do anything efficiently and would go bankrupt if it had to compete with others providing the same “product”. Oh wait! It already has to the tune of almost $20 BILLION dollars.
    The most unfortunate aspect to all of this is that way too many people do not understand the above, and too many more just plain live off of what “government” takes from others to give to them. In light of the recent college students campaigning for a college education to be “free” they are not going to learn anytime soon.
    , thus the only real solution is to privatize our health care system which is what the United States is supposed to be all about.
    Fix the problems that government has created, one of which would be to allow people to buy health care insurance from any provider they choose from anywhere in the country, or buy none at all if they so choose. Getting the “middle man” out of the picture would drive down costs and make our health care more efficient, and possibly lead to better care because our doctor and not some middle man is making the decision on whether or not we need what the doctor ordered. Tort reform is another way to take a large cost of doing business off the shoulders of doctors by allowing him or her to order fewer tests, some of which the doctor needs to have done in order to cover him/her in case of a frivolous law suit. These are just a few of the ways our health care system costs could be reduced.

    • Morton99

      Where do you get the idea that the ‘government put a ceiling on wages ‘ ?

      • jimshaw54

        “Brief but strict wage and price controls were imposed during World War II and the Korean War, as well as…….”
        I googled it and got the above, but I also am a senior citizen and remember hearing my elders talk about it when I was growing up.. …

        • Morton99

          Yes, while that is true – the controls were for a very short time and there s absolutely no evidence that they had anything to do with the disaster that the for profit healthcare industry became. The fact that the ACA was a legitimate congressional discussion for 6 months is itself testimony to the seriousness of the trainwreck that the old system was turning into.

          • Granny Filec

            ACTUALLY, THE ONLY TRAIN WRECK WAS WHEN BO WAS ELECTED AND CONTINUALLY HAS TRIED TO SHAFT THE USA……..EVERY TIME THAT CONGRESS HAS TURNED DOWN BO’S PLANS, HE ACTUALLY STATED “FU__ THE CONGRESS”, AND HE PASSES IT ANYWAY…..WHICH ACCORDING TO THE CONSTITUTION IS A NO-NO……………

  • Junior1950

    The so called “Affordable Healthcare Act,” otherwise known as “ObamaCare” has been a disaster from its very inception. “Obamacare” needs to be SCRAPPED in its entirety, then go back to the drawing board and start over with a plan that puts the control of healthcare in the hands of the individual patient—NOT in the hands of the insurance companies—and CERTAINLY NOT IN THE HANDS OF THE GOVERNMENT!!!!

    • Morton99

      In fact it has been a huge success – except for the hissing from HMOs that they can’t make a big enough profit. So lets get rid of the HMOs – they are just book keepers after all -, and extremely expensive ones.

      • jimshaw54

        ALL insurance programs put an extra layer of cost between the individual and his/her doctor, and all Health Insurance companies just put another layer of expensive employees in between the doctor and the patient. That is a fact.
        You must be one of the people who have benefited from Obamacare. But ask people (and there a whole lot of them) how Obamacare has cost them far more than they were paying before this “tax” was imposed on everyone.

        I don’t know of ONE person who has not seen a SIGNIFICANT rise in their healthcare premiums since Obamacare was signed into law, and that includes me and all of my children and all of my friends. I do not know one person who is not paying a significantly higher amount for his/her health care post Obamacare.

        • Morton99

          I do not personally benefit from Obamacare – but I am delighted to pay my share of it via taxation.
          In fact with Obamacare came the first decline in price hiking in 2 decades.

          • Pam Dunn

            I bet you are living off EBT cards and scooping up dog poop from the grass in the park; You are certainly not bright enough to even hold a job of clean portable toilets.

          • Morton99

            Correct my dear – I wouldn’t go near a portable toilet – they remind me of you.

          • Osamao

            Keep feeding our contempt “generation androgynous”.

          • Morton99

            I was being compassionate. Don’t get me started on contempt.

          • Osamao

            Arrogant, condescending and belligerent is compassionate only to a fascistic socially engineered lab rat tool. You’re apparently a behavioral scientists wet dream of a specimen…………or a specimen of his wet dream. Either or………..Most likely both.

          • Morton99

            I do have a problem being compassionate to challenged and arrogant intellects and racist sympathies. I hope that’s not you ?

          • Osamao

            Are you that aggravatingly stupid on purpose or is it natural?

          • Osamao

            Documented Communist Democrat lie. Pretzel logic.

          • Morton99

            Nah. I don’t eat junk food.

          • Osamao

            Is that supposed to be funny?……………..Because it’s stupid.

      • Pam Dunn

        Thanks for confirming that YOUR MOTHER sold your brain to Planned Baby killers when her abortion of you failed.

      • Junior1950

        If it is such a huge success, why is it then that a lot of people I know had their insurance premiums rise so dramatically since “ObamaCare” took effect and why then have so many State ObamaCare exchanges closed down because ObamaCare IS such a dismal failure???? Obviously you know not of what you speak!!!!

        • Morton99

          Probably because the policy provider was offering sham coverage – hidden caveats in the insurance contracts that are known as wriggle out clauses. The Obama administration banned them which was one of the reasons for the massive propaganda campaign aimed at people such as the ones you know.

          • Junior1950

            There was no propaganda campaign against the people that I know, and those people include my relatives who ACTUALLY SAW THEIR INSURANCE RATES AND DEDUCTIBLES INCREASE UNDER THE FAILED OBAMACARE POLICIES!!!!

          • Morton99

            There has never ever been a year in which healthcare insurance rates did not either increase, or coverage decrease in the following year.

          • Junior1950

            Rate increase, yes, but not to the astronomical heights that ObamaCare rates have!! Coverage decrease no. Decreased coverage under Obamacare, yes. Again, you don’t know what the hell you are talking about. Remember when Obama said: “If you like your Doctor you can keep your Doctor. If you like your current health insurance, you can keep your current health insurance.” All lies coming from Der Fuehrer’s mouth, since every one was placed on health insurance they could no longer afford, and were forced by the government to pay for things that they did not need. We DID NOT get to keep our doctors, or our insurance as it was. The FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS NO BUSINESS TELLING ME, OR ANYONE ELSE WHICH DOCTOR I MUST SEE, OR WHAT KIND OF HEALTH INSURANCE I MUST CARRY, OR HOW MUCH I OR ANYONE ELSE MUST PAY FOR THAT INSURANCE!! You are another idiot liberal who doesn’t have a brain in his head!!

          • Morton99

            The government has NOTHING to do with the cost of your healthcare – with one caveat. Any HMO that tries to gouge you loses its license to sell healthcare. The wriggle out clauses have been banned.

          • Junior1950

            They do now with OBAMACARE!!!!!!!!! Get that through your THICK SKULL—-IDIOT!!!!!!!!!

          • Morton99

            I don’t mean to hurt your feelings but I would suggest that you put a bit of effort in to understanding how Obamacare works before you make utterly ridiculous comments.

          • Junior1950

            You have not hurt my feelings one little bit. It is you who should talk to people who have been negatively affected by ObamaCare, and perhaps you should pay attention to Dick Morris who has a complete understanding of just how DISATEROUS ObamaCare has been to EVERYONE who was FORCED under penalty of a SIZEABLE MONETARY FINE to sign up for it!! Again, the government has NO BUSINESS forcing ANYONE to buy SOMETHING THAT THEY DO NOT WANT!!!! And YOU are still an IDIOT first class!!!! You don’t have brains enough to poor p*ss out of a boot if the instructions are clearly stamped in the heel and on the bottom!!!!!!!!

          • Morton99

            The fine is allocable to companies with more than 50 employees – companies that for several decades have ALWAYS included healthcare in their salary package to fulltime employees. It was to prevent them from reneging on the implicit contractual obligation contained in the employment contract. Healthcare insurance for single contractors has ALWAYS been expensive – but is in fact much cheaper for them under Obamacare. Individuals under a specific threshhold (cannot afford to buy a policy) receive either a subsidized policy, or welfare (as they always did). Obamacare has actually permitted millions more to contribute to their healthcare costs and go off welfare.

            Perhaps you would like a system where you could get discounted taxes in return for no access to any publicly funded healthcare facility such as emergency care. I believe you will find that the number of people who would actually sign up for such a stupid system would be less than 1 percent.

          • Peatro Giorgio

            Perhaps it is you who is ill- informed,ill-educated in regards to the So called affordable care act. Known now by the millions as Obama Lied No care Health care. Point 1 The lib-turd promoted the theory,Obama care would insure 30 million of the un-ensured. Well now five years having passed by under this fraudulent act; perpetrated By lib-turds this law now in to effect. There are still 28,780,000 Million un -insured, & Yes the lib-turds are claiming it is only the millennials who are resisting signing Up. LIE,LIE ,LIE, The Millennials those 26 years an under are covered under their parents. You say the Obama no care law is cheaper I say & am able prove; this to; to be a Lie.
            Fact number 1 in this proof. This administration claims there are now over 150 million folks signed up and are now insured under the Obama no care act. Wrong there are now 58 million additional Medicaid insurey’s. An additional 28 million union and civil & public servant who are exempt, That’s 10’s of thousands in DC alone, Included in those numbers ; all of congress,the white house,& the judiciary Branches as well all of their Aids and assistance . Another 12 million Christians who are insure through Media- Share Christian based insurance pools. Or other private Co-opp’s, Then we now have those 27 Co- opp’s formed under the Obama no care act. 17 of the total of 25 now bankrupt. The remaining 7 also on there way out. 52 major hospitals closed under the Obama no care act. Over 7 thousand Health care workers ,Doctors, RN, have left the practice of Providing medical needs and medicine’s. Health insurance providers are leaving in droves. 90% of doctors offices no longer except Medicaid . All Us military personal and Pentagon personal insured under the Va. There again another approximate 6 million not under Obama no care. Now we get to the premiums and deductibles . Average Premiums 35 % higher then prior to deductible 1,000 percent higher then prior to the Obama no care act. Let us begin with this basic fact a Family living in New Jersey MY FAMILY Living in the second most expensive state in america Having a combined annual income of $92 ,000.00. We who had insured our entire immediate family payed a Premium of $485.00 Per month our annual deductible for the entire family was 400 per year per person. In our case a total of $1600.00 Our co Pay was$ 80.00 per visit. We had what would then be known as a gold standard policy which included preexisting condition. For us to have exactly the same coverage we would have to dual out an additional $700.00 per month and our deductibles would be in the neighborhood of $7,000.00 Per year per person. However we certainly could choose a much lower form of coverage which would then only marginally lower our premiums and deductibles By a mere $2,000.00 ,down to $5,000.00 per person per years per person But why should we there is no savings and certainly no benefit. We are not alone in these excessive cost increases Millions of working Americans Are in fact rejecting this socialist bullshit. I am in personal contact with hundreds of families who are in like similar financial condition. We were happy to pay for the benefits we once had. But we refuse to sign up for this Socialist redistribution of our hard well earned incomes. And like myself there are millions of other Blue collar workers who feel and act the same We reject so called legal socialist theft.

          • Morton99

            Without questioning your data your premise is basically incorrect. Obamacare does NOT set prices – the prices are set by competition in the private sector market. Obamacare however made it illegal to hide ‘wriggle out’ clauses which many of the cheaper premium companies were palming off on unsuspecting consumers. That is said to have caused more than one million bankruptcies by people who were hit with medical bills that they were led to believe were covered.

      • gerald Hughes

        You are a bare faced low life lying liberal dem bloodsucker.
        Go ahead and get rid of them, promise you liberal compost heaps you are not going to get single payer or a government run insurance co..
        We watch you die in the streets from lack of health care , first.
        You scum think that all you have to do is keep talking, you are in error..
        You ersatz life forms had better get your stuff together, we have cordially despise you p-ants for 50 years.. We have evolved over the last 8 years.
        We now hate you with a depth, intensity and bitterness that has no bottom.
        Daily, there are more people that think the answer is to close off the borders to our states,, station marksmen there to shoot anything crossing illegally.
        Then, simply forget about you life forms.

        • Morton99

          Calm down Gerry – I see you have already attempted to insult half a dozen people. You’re a kind of maggot that does little more than curse when it sees the light. Back to the rock with you

          • gerald Hughes

            Dec 2014 a poll showed that 11.4% of the people thought that their state should secede from the union.
            Dec 2015 same poll 23.9% of the people thought that their state should secede from the union
            I speculate that you ersatz life forms, have about 2 years.
            Then we will close off our borders, station marksmen there to shoot anything crossing illegally.
            You liberal garbage can raise taxes to 90% on any business or wealthy person stupid enough to stay in your areas, you can buy everything, for everybody, at least as long as your money lasts.
            All of your pervert friends can get married, all of your bent gender friends can use the restrooms and locker rooms with your spouse, daughters, and mothers. You can abort all pregnancies.
            Life will be wonderful for you.
            You can bring all of the Mexicans from Mexico in to your area,, you can bring all of the rapist, killer Muslims into your area.
            You can ban Christianity and confiscate all weapons
            We won’t obstruct you, at all.

            We will go back to our old, dull, running a real country again, kick back and applaud as you fing leeches starve to death.
            Wish i could wish you luck, no I don’t either, i hate you, please die.

          • Morton99

            Amazing how effective propaganda can be on the challenged mind. I don’t expect you to understand that …

          • gerald Hughes

            That’s it?
            That is your entire response?
            You liberal dem bloodsuckers give a whole new level to asinine and inane.
            Wouldn’t be easier to just work, earn and pay for what you want, instead of spending your life on public forums whining and begging for handouts and trying to raise taxes on some one else, to pay for them.
            My God, possibly you could even be some one.

          • Morton99

            Oh, I am already someone. Fortunate with a really top notch education, it enabled great success in NYC. Now its my turn to give back and help others achieve their dreams. But for someone like you I might suggest emigration. You will never be happy in a progressive nation which Hillary will absolutely ensure.

          • gerald Hughes

            Cretin, if this country loses it’s collective mind and elects the Clinton outlaw, there is no possible way to stop the partition of the USA.
            I watch you life forms in action and I am constantly amazed at the total lack of reality, that you ersatz life forms are exposed to

          • Morton99

            How would you partition it? I might be all for that !

          • gerald Hughes

            Still don’t get it, do you cretin?
            You won’t get a vote.

          • mrpoohead

            Country – you mean toilet.

          • gerald Hughes

            How could you tell low life liberal dem bloodsucker, to you ersatz life forms toilet is where you scum want to take the country..
            Be interesting to see what you fing ticks do, when talking isn’t working.

          • mrpoohead

            Well stats-wise it already sits at the bottom of the Modern world pile (W Europe, Canada, NZ and Australia). Suggest you try again. There is no further descent, except into the Third World.

          • gerald Hughes

            Listen very carefully liberal dem bloodsucker,we are not going to pay for your health care, you liberal dem bloodsuckers have been cordially despised for 50 years.
            We have evolved over the last 8 years, we now hate you, we hate you with a depth, intensity and bitterness, that has no bottom.

            Leave us alone or pay the price.

          • mrpoohead

            Doubt you pay tax, doubt you work or are even capable of having a meaningful conversation. Not sure why you think you’d be paying for my healthcare – I left! “We have evolved………….” – really; what into amoeba’s? PS President has no power – House’s are in charge and make all policy. Obamacare was started by both party initiative during Bush Admin – duh! It just got nick-named Obamacare by the media – duh! He may approve, but it is not his baby – dopey!

          • Peatro Giorgio

            MR POOP Head .I felt this over whelming urge to Rebuke you, admonish you, correct you. For what you might ask .Well for your naive, gullible, ignorant comment. That comment which stated the President has No power !
            Well I beg to differ. Fact of the matter is this. Whether constitutional or Unconstitutionally The President has altered, changed, manipulated added subtracted from the A.C.A by means of Executive orders. Now you might say prove It . So I shall By Using as supporting evidence; Ever law suit with which Congress initiated on its own merits, chose to utilize in order to bring the White house back into compliance with said Law. In the last 4 years alone there have been 15 such law suits. Those pursued By Congress in Regards to the A.C.A Don’t even bring up all Congress’s initiated suits in regards to Immigration Laws & regulations. Those also pursued By congress against this administration. My friend you certainly do present yourself as a rather ill-informed ill-educated Individual.

          • mrpoohead

            Good for you. Now substantiate what you have just said. I’ll be waiting then………………………..Back to sitting on grandpa’s knee?

          • GODBlessRealAmerica#1
          • mrpoohead

            Interestingly I have never come across a minister outside of the US who wasn’t a socialist – think it comes under the heading of compassion. Obviously in the US it gets twisted for a different purpose. The Church of Stuff You We Hate Everybody Else?

          • GODBlessRealAmerica#1
          • Peatro Giorgio

            Compassion is absent of ones political views, or the governing forms of Mankind. Compassion,and the act of a compassion comes from the Kind,loving ,giving heart of men. Derived from the inner free will of man. There is no such form as a compassionate man formed government or religion.
            Out side of Faith ! That of government, compassion means to steal to take, take from those who upon the planting season proceeded with do diligent s to sow the seed. So that they might share in the Harvest.
            Whether Priest, Pastors,Ministers Or reverends, Either with in Us borders or from afar. If they are promoting Governments to take from those who have earned with out respect to personal will. To give to those who have not. This was never, Either Gods design or Gods intent for Man. For God gave each of us free will . Free will to obey His commands, Do Gods will, or to follow our own fleshly desires. All through out scripture it is Gods wish ,desire that we Love our neighbor as we would be Love.” This is a Perquisite to salvation.” OUR CHOICE, OUR DECISION ! Not one made by that of government force. God forces no one. Though God does very much desire that we follow His commands.
            But then again why am I preaching to one without understanding.One with out wisdom ,One with no concept as to Gods desire. But merely one who’s desire is to gather up the harvest; while said one acted as the slough & slept through the time of planting.

          • mrpoohead

            Amusing drivel once again and I was incorrect – must be the Church of Self-Loathing.

          • Peatro Giorgio

            The Church of self loathing Is built upon those who snuck acroos our border unwanted, unneeded,illegally Entering They , You are of the Church of self loathing. Yes you who has claimed falsely that you immigrated here. No You had not. Your just one more criminal illegal alien who snuck across our border . Having found you werent even elcome in your homeland. Now find exactly the same here. Yes unwanted unneeded an with no value to anyone. That is your reasoning for not supporting Donald J. TRUMP For had you came here through the legal proccess of immigration Then you would have no fear no quames with donald. But now knowing your deadbeat ass is to be one of the first to be deported. A deep bitterness resentment has grabed you by the ass. Right illegal.

          • mrpoohead

            Obviously you are clever than me, as you have proved time and again – not. Passport (two actually) by parentage is unlikely to mean “illegal” – duh!

            I travelled many places and realised what a dump the place is – acquired more passports and choose to live in neither one by parentage. US is the toilet of the modern world (Europe et al). You are a fool – I care for neither Trump nor Clinton; neither is worthy of the title of President, both will devalue any currency we had left even further. All empire’s come to an end – some retain a semblance of respectability, I suspect we will fall into the ignominy of the debauched.

            An’ am still waiting for one element of substance to any of your missives. Will probably have to wait forever…………….

          • Peatro Giorgio

            Duh ! Passport means you have been given permission to travel . The purpose of a Passport is to give you the ability to gain access to other countries whether to travel through or visit . But only on a temporary basis, short term only ! ? ( Where is your visa? ). A visa permits one to stay in foreign nations for & extended duration, as in; Working or attending school. So then when you say you posses two passports through parentage. I sincerely doubt that very much. After all you do not posses dual citizenship’s. What it is that you are trying say ; is really you were only given permission to visited for a rather short duration of time. Whether in this or other nations. Now having overstayed the allotted passport time. You are “YES AN illegal alien “. Yet you presume we are to except your opinion ! That our nation, America is a Dump ???. Get out you illegal piece of excrement .

          • mrpoohead

            You aren’t going to get a passport unless you are a citizen – birth or naturalisation. Many people possess dual citizenship. If your parents are of different nationality then you will qualify for both – duh! Some have many; they go to work somewhere and by virtue of length of stay then qualify to become citizens – not all countries expect you to renounce.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_citizenship Duh!

            America compared to W Europe et al remains a dump!

          • Peatro Giorgio

            Well once again you’ve managed so perfectly to prove your an jackass idiot . Posting your source as that of Wikipedia. Wikipedia a Web site open to anyone who desires to post information. Whether or not that posted information is correct,or even researched. Take your dual eastern European pass ports an return to losers ville. One final point.
            If one holds dual citizenships one does not have need for dual passports . Dual citizenships born of one nation naturalized in another. I highly doubt you to be intelligently sufficient to have passed the 100 question citizenship exam.

          • mrpoohead

            Wikipedia has references as to were the sources come from at the bottom of the page – equally you are seriously out of touch as it is used by educators and students. Maybe that is the problem and the reason that the US education system is viewed so poorly – they don’t use it. OECD rates US education system below all W European et al countries. Who’s the dummy. Wikipedia is also constantly edited, with citations if it is not recently. Or, disprove.

            If you are a citizen of a country you are expected to arrive via that nations passport, on the proviso that you are planning on staying for a while. If not then you would breach the visa allowed on the other nations passport. Also always them to keep tabs on you with regard to tax situations. I have let one passport lapse but still maintain two for this reason. Your last paragraph is idiotic – as per usual. You can be born qualifying for two passports, if your parents are citizens of different countries you instantly qualify for both. No naturalising required. If you end up somewhere working and then qualify by length of stay there is a process – I only got one question wrong, thank you. Same applies for refugees – they have to be there long enough and then complete the process, especially if they ever want to go anywhere else or they have no papers. Duh!

            Give it up – you’ve lost in evey area. This is like a slaughter at a football game, a rout in war. Does help that you really are a dummy! Try again when you have grown a brain – I recommend a pea and a petrie dish, shouldn’t take long to get an improvement on what is in there now.

          • Peatro Giorgio

            Damn you are Truly dumb as a Brick . Have you not ever read Wikipedia’s declaration page moron.. The page states they are not responsible for the content or the accuracy of the content published on this site, This is an open forum site where anyone may post any information. We leave up to the reader. Yet once again moron , speaking about shit you haven’t the foggyest idea about.” Moron”. Whether European educatores, teacher, professor or American. They all say the very same thing do your do diligence research your sources . Then they’ll include a list of accurate sources combined with a list of other sources some of which may or might be trusted. And nine times out of ten on the top of said list Under the list of may or Might be Trusted heading . Is number one, UNO ,# 1 Wikipedia! ” Moron.” As for Holding dual Pasports. Bullshit You do not qualify for dual Pasports because of your Parent s status. Nor do you qualify for dual citizenships because of your parents status. You freaking moron. Get off the Wikipedia moron. IN ORDER to posses a US Pasports you must first become naturalized. . Then holding dual citizenships you may posses bot US or where ever. I suggest you give it Up moron you lost an big time jack ass. Read US Travel state Guided For the department of Immigration an naturalization for the US department of state. ” Moron “

          • mrpoohead

            Which is why you go to the bottom of the page, Wikipedia, and follow the references. Duh!

            If your mother is British and your father is American you will qualify for both, even if you were born in Mali. Naturalising not required; naturalising required if you move somewhere else and decide to become citizen. Example; I arrived in a country to work with a “residents” visa in my EU passport, after four years I was allowed to become a citizen of that country, this negated my visa so for travel purposes I got another passport whilst the other was still valid outside of the new country. Many people qualify for dual citizenship, some of us don’t qualify for one, you, by virtue of mental health status.

            Now I know that is all correct, so if you’re going to disprove I’d like references – that’ll take you forever, as I’m correct and you won’t be able to find them. Again! Duh!

            Equally; why would Wikipedia be incorrect about something that is easily researched and not open to interpretation like politics or religion? Bye, dummy!

          • mrpoohead

            What nothing – duhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!

          • gerald Hughes

            zero concern about anyt houghts that you may have liberal dem bloodsucking parasitical scum bag.
            You are truly one of the great fing liars in the liberal dem bloodsuckers
            If youi left, best stay gone c-sucker, zero patience left with you worthless scum.
            The Dem Party and the the inept lying out law in the white house passed the insurance rape with out a single republican vote you worthless lying scum bag.
            If you left, it behooves you stay gone, the scum bag liberal dem bloodsuckers are headed for a very bad place,. we are done with you c-suckers.

          • mrpoohead

            I left because I found a better place. Healthcare, education, welfare all singularly better than the US. Social disparity and social mobility top or close and a homicide rate a fifth of the US’s and we don’t average a mass shooting per day. Who’s in the toilet? Ain’t me!

          • mrpoohead

            Logic: Obamacare is a drop in the ocean, why is your gripe not the bailing out of the banks which has bankrupted the country to the tune of $19trillion, last I looked. So, you’re happy to bail out the 5%, but not help the less fortunate – nice to see Christianity alive and kicking. That is illogical in anybody else’s book. You are a fool.

          • gerald Hughes

            Talking to your worthless low life libera dem bloodsuckers is like talking to a rock, we are done with you, the talking is over c-sucker.
            We are going to resolve our problems with you cretins once and for all.

          • mrpoohead

            Ahhhh couldn’t fault the logic heh? Thought so! Not sure what you’ll do when left to your lonesome, I suspect the Injun’s will take it back.

          • gerald Hughes

            You are aboring life form, goodbye,.

          • mrpoohead

            …..and you have the brain capacity of an amoeba – actually I’m insulting amoeba’s there. An’ I’m the “cretin” – ha, ha, ha!

  • Last of the patriots

    They should cut all those freeloading programs out. Those programs do nothing but make people ignorant and more worthless, because if there supported by government programs there’s no reason for them to better themselves. If a man’s hungry enough he’ll find a job

    • Morton99

      And if they don’t get healthcare they may die before they can better themselves. Lets have a sensible discussion – not one that is patently absurd.

      • Granny Filec

        AS I SAID BEFORE…………YOU MUST WANT THE ILLEGALS/MUSLIMS TO BENEFIT……….WHICH IS THE REASON THEY SWAM THE RIO GRANDE TO COME HERE AND ALSO RECEIVE WELFARE….

        THEY SHOULD ALL BE BUSSED BACK TO WHERE THEY CAME FROM……….WAIT THEIR TURN TO ENTER AND SAVE WE THE PEOPLE TONS OF MONEY.

        • Morton99

          Get well sweetheart. Or get a new caregiver.

          • Granny Filec

            I’LL LET YOU GET A NEW CAREGIVER……BECAUSE YOU ARE MENTALLY HANDICAPPED.

          • Morton99

            Calm down sweeties – think of your blood pressure.

          • Granny Filec

            CALM IS WHAT I DO BEST……….BUT IT SEEMS YOUR BP AND OTHER MAJOR HANDICAPS ARE AFFECTING YOURS….

          • Pam Dunn

            Please go visit the Morgue and see if they will loan you a brain.

          • Morton99

            Go and play with your girt friend sweetheart – she may appreciate you more than me.

        • Morton99

          I would put the limit of new Muslim refugees at about one million a year. We can absorb that and they would be educated and ready to work. That is the least we can do as a humanitarian nation – and it would also help in filling the 5+ million job vacancies that Americans are not smart enough to fill in this country.

          • Granny Filec

            WOW………GOT IT YOU ARE A F-IN MUSLIME………NO WONDER YOUR BRAINLESS.

          • Morton99

            And I would do my best to settle them ion your state to teach you some humility and human compassion.

          • Granny Filec

            YOU NEED TO TEACH THAT TO THE MUSLIMES AND THE JIHADISTS……YOU ARE KILLERS AT HEART AND COULD NOT TEACH A BABY TO CRAWL…..YOU MUSLIMES HAVE NO HUMALITY NOR COMPASSION………YOU ARE JUST LOOKING FOR A FREE RIDE……

            PRESIDENT TRUMP CAN SEND YOU PACKING BACK TO YOUR ARROGANT AND MURDERING PEOPLES……

      • Pam Dunn

        IF you want a sensible discussion here, then LEAVE; The only asinine moron and total idiot spewing here is YOU.

  • Sgt. York

    I’m afraid I would tell them to wait till after this upcoming election. If Trump wins and he will President Trump will have his plan to put in place. Republicans best wait as the Devilcrats have a devious plan or they wouldn’t be asking the Repubs. For any help. Best they for a change stop and think of the folks they work for and not a damn Party.

    • Morton99

      What plan ?

      • Sgt. York

        Well you don’t always put your plan on the board early. If Trump did and he just happened to loose and he had a great plan don’t think for a second Hitlery wouldn’t adopt it waving the,”yes yes I have this great plan” she just wouldn’t admit she stole it. This is why all great plans are not told before its time. Oh by the way where is the Clinton Mafias Plan if she can’t steal another’s plan?

        • Morton99

          So Trump’s is a ‘trust me’ plan. LOL !!!!!!!!!

          • Sgt. York

            Better than Clintons,I’ll screw you when I get elected plan that Ovomit gave to her to sell to us.

          • Morton99

            The ACA actually works. See my post above. Modifications that would be practical is to fold it into Medicare for all. Claw back the 33 percent surcharge that the HMOs extract – and shrink them into companies that provide add on insurance for the wealthy.

          • Granny Filec

            WOULD YOU LIKE US TO SEND YOUR CRYING TOWEL NOW?

      • Granny Filec

        A PLAN FOR A BETTER AND SAFER USA………THANKS TO PRESIDENT TRUMP……..

  • Dan Menard

    Given the disastrous legacy the Obama eight year term has meant to our nation and its citizens, why in the world would the RNC, Mr. Trump or anyone in their right mind want to perpetuate anything tainted by the hands and policies of Obama?
    Let him, his supporters and his supposed legacy rot away to the total failure they were from their inception! Help him out!
    No Way!

    • Joseph Nicholas Toth Jr.

      They’re assuming that Hillary Clinton wins, but I don’t see that happening. I say they made the mess, they got everything they wanted now it’s time for them to live with. I hope that the RNC doesn’t fall for the trap. If they do,
      everything will be laid at their doorstep.

  • Morton99

    By the end of 2014, more than 6.5 million Americans enrolled in a health plan. Out of those, 2 million were new enrollments, and 4.5 million were renewals.

    – By the end of the open enrollment in 2015, the expectations are that around 11.7 million will enroll in the health plan in state and federal marketplace. Additional 10.8 million will be covered through Medicare and CHIP and 5.7 million will stay on the plan of their parents.

    – A January report in 2015 showed reduction of uninsured Americans. In some cases, the numbers are the lowest since 2001, especially in areas such as young people and low-income workers.

    – Health care spending in the past year grew at the slowest rate and the health care price inflation is at its lowest rate

    – More than 8.2 million seniors saved $11.5 billion on their prescription drugs since Obama signed the health care reform law in 2010

  • Richard Knack

    The ONLY part of Obama (doesn’t) Care that should be kept is the part that says that insurance companies can’t deny coverage to people who have pre-existing conditions, because those are generally the people who need health insurance the most. While I believe people under a certain income bracket should be given heavily discounted health insurance, nobody should be FORCED to buy it or face paying fines (they can call it a “tax” all they want, but anyone with half a brain can see it for what it is: a punitive fine for disobeying a government edict). While “universal healthcare coverage” is a nice idea, Canada has that and I have talked to quite a few Canadians who say there are often LONG waits to see a physician. What I would really like to see are more controls over health insurance companies as well as pharmaceutical companies so they can’t hike prices or raise deductibles on a whim.

    • Morton99

      It is true that in order to keep costs down, NON ESSENTAL doctor visits sometimes requires a wait – particularly non essential surgery. That is a decent trade-off for affordable healthcare.

      • Pam Dunn

        Thanks for revealing your absolute and total ignorance about most if not ALL of the government. SO, If you need a knee replaced its “OKAY” to wait UNTIL you die is that it? It happens in Europe. SO it’s okay for you to lay in your own poop in the hospital bed because the “nurses” are too busy talking, going on strike or don’t feel like it.
        Sadly you demonstrate the usual liberal completely moronic lack of knowledge about the nationalistic healthcare in Europe.

        • Morton99

          Having actually lived in Europe I can say categorically that is a bald lie. Have you ever traveled outside the USA – it sounds like you never have.

    • jdelcjr

      I agree. Especially the part about FORCING people to pay for medical coverage. Thats the part of the law that I thought the Supreme Court would reject. When my father was being treated in Memorial Sloan Kettering Hospital in NYC in 2005, I met a man from a Country that had government provided health care. He told me he came to the U.S. because he wanted his best chance of survival. He was paying for his own medical care here, rather then what he could have received (free) in his own Country.

  • William Ingram

    They F*cked it up.
    Let someone more intelligent Fix It.
    NOT THEM.
    ANYONE BUT THE DEMONCRATS

  • cool breeze

    HAS ANY LIB/DEM NOTICED WHEN THERE IS A TOTALLY WRECKED CAR THAT GOES TO THE SCRAP PILE NOBODY RETRIEVES IT THINKING IT CAN BE FIXED. AND GUESS WHAT, EVERY SYSTEM ON THAT MOTOR VEHICLE WAS DEFECTIVE FROM BUMPER TO BUMPER. SMART AND REASONABLE THINKERS REDESIGN A NEW AND BETTER MOTOR VEHICLE BY LEARNING WHAT WAS WRONG THE LAST PIECE OF CRAP THAT WAS BUILT. SAME WITH OBAMA’S A.C.A.

    • AntiGOP

      Scream and yell shithead..!!

      Another asshole…

    • jdelcjr

      Scrap the whole thing and go back to what we had. Obamacare turned the entire healthcare industry into chaos. Not just the insurance industry.

      • Morton99

        Obamacare actually saved the healthcare system from a train wreck. You may be too young to remember the great recession of 2008 – but millions were laid off and they could not afford any healthcare at all.

        • jdelcjr

          My wife was a hospital pharmacist and retired after 40 years at the same hospital after ACA went into effect. My brother also has worked at the local hospital for nearly that long. Hospitals have been failing for many years. I agree with you on that. Our local hospital changed names and merged so many times, I don’t even know what it’s called today and many hospitals have been laying off workers for as long as I can remember, but ACA didn’t help. Part time and per diem employees were either let go, or had their hours cut, so the hospital would not have to cover their medical benefits, to comply with the rules of ACA. That scenario as you may remember, played out in every industry across the country. It was one of the first negative impacts felt and at a time when many hospitals were already making cuts to survive, it has had a negative affect on patient care and employee moral. The decline in uninsured patients due to ACA, has been mostly through the expansion of Medicaid and insurance premiums keep going up for the ones that don’t qualify. My main objection to ACA is the mandate and government regulating my health care. The mandate was necessary to force young healthy people to purchase insurance they don’t want, or can afford at this time of their lives. Money that could be the difference of affording to buy a house. If this law was in effect in 1980, I probably would not have been a home owner. Most of the people I know, that aren’t wealthy, but still don’t qualify for subsidies have been opting out and paying the penalty. That too will change this year. I personally haven’t been affected financially, since I’m a senior citizen now, so my concern is for young people trying to get started. I want them to have the same chances I had that worked for my wife and I.

          • Morton99

            If you take a pragmatic look at the entire mess you will have to see that Americans must have access to some sort of decent healthcare whether via insurance, or some kind of government program. To simply ignore the plight of several million uninsured people is political suicide for the party that tries to do that, besides being immoral – particularly as the most needy are elderly or children.

            If you accept that – then the next issue to be solved is how to do this the most effective and least costly way.

            I would welcome a conscientious discussion on this – because the only realistic solution I see is to provide all citizens with basic healthcare, and leave the wealthy and neurotic to supplement that with specialized medical options as in most other developed nations. The model that I think would be most suitable is one that was implemented relatively recently in Taiwan, a small but very capitalist nation.
            There is a lot of information on how successful and cost effective it is on line – about half the cost of our system. There is no expensive middle man – an HMO – sucking up 1/3 of the revenue. Patients pay a flat fee of $ 10 for any doctor visit. This is to discourage hypochondriacs rather than anything else.

  • Conservative

    Boo, hoo, hoo, eight years ago the Democrats well so arrogant that their message was: I CAN DO IT ALL BY MYSELF!!!
    Sorry Dems, sorry Pelosi, sorry Obama, your lies have caught up with you, your deceit has cost your constituents and yet: you took no time in rejecting the plan for yourselves, your donors and big business interests but you let the rest of the hard working, tax paying Americans paying for another one of your corrupt Progressive ideas, all for one purpose: VOTES from those who trusted you and once again were deceived.

    • AntiGOP

      Asshole

  • G.Mann

    “You have to pass it to see what’s in it.” Only works with stool samples, not bills before Congress.

    Obamacare, now that I think of it, is a “Congressional Stool Sample” … the patient is rotten on the inside.. terminal.

    Quick, someone call the “Obamacare death squad” it’s the only humane thing to do..

  • rowleya

    Abort Obamacare
    Defund it

  • Mike Tanco

    Obamacare should never have been passed. It was a total lie from the beginning and our Muslim President knew it, yet he told Americans they could keep their doctor and their insurance. The only bigger liar than he is, is Hillary.

  • Granny Filec

    WOW…….THE DEMS & GOP ARE GOING TO WORK TOGETHER………..AMAZING………LETS HOPE THEY ARE ON THE 5TH FLOOR AND TOSS OBAMACARE OUT THE WINDOW…………

  • GuardianFlame

    ObamaCausticCare was never intendrd to work but to financially breakdown businesses by forcing them to pay for a healthcare system that was ineffective anyway. Ineffective and costly for the POOR PEOPLE OBAMA KEPT SAYING HE WAS DOING THIS FOR. Another HUGE lie from the Great Liar in Chief and his cabinet of towel headed muslim idiots.

    Liberal America, get your heads out of the sand, clear away those cobwebs engulfing your brains, and SEE WITH CLEAR VISION that the slam donkey you put in ofgice has his hands on your throats and is tightening his grip! The first step of acceptance that you did something so radically wrong IS TOO CORRECT THAT WRONG BY DOING THE OPPOSITE! DO NOT vote in another schister, but vote in a man who with the help of the BEST ADVISORS ON EARTH will FIX thos mess you LIBS have created. Yes, America the “Failing” all falls on your shoulders along with MCain

  • AntiGOP

    Masters of Lies…

    “Weapons of Mass Destruction”

    And how many people benefited from that massive lie…
    Millions DEAD…

    keep their doctor and their insurance

    I keep mine, you were just to dumb to know how to…

  • mudguy1

    We don’t want anybody to try and fix Obamacare.
    There is NO way to fix Obamacare other than repeal it in its entirety and NO replacement.The only way to fix it is to get the government out of our healthcare completely. Even then it will years to repair the damage Obamacare has done. The money,jobs and lives have been the the biggest loss that may never be recovered.

  • AntiGOP

    Look how close Trump has come to total destruction of the GOP…

    And he’s not done yet..!!

  • teedoffatobama

    it has been shown that it’s a failure so the only reasonable way is to end it and start all over if needed

  • Carol

    There is no fix for the BIG LIE to make some feel better. It screwed the businesses, the people, the doctors, etc. ALL the democrats voted for something they knew nothing about and they still don’t understand it. This is an example of what the democrats do just to go along with a BOZO in the WH. Hot fried eggs on the faces of every democrat, they deserve it and more. Get rid of healthcare all together. What was wrong with medicaid? Take care of the fraud and presto, it works!

  • Morton99

    In the entire world the two political leaders with the HIGHEST ratings are the prime minister of Canada and the President of the USA. Their policies actually work.

  • stan lee

    Everything was “Full speed ahead” for the damned Democrats, thus 100% of them voted to back their “great leader,” Obama.

    No Republicans cast positive votes for Obama’s nightmare promotion, and the story became that we, the Republicans, didn’t care for the poor, uninsured, American people….like Democrats do! That “Affordable Care Catastrophe” was destined to die even before it took its first breath and Obama knew it, but he didn’t care. His derriere was protected in any event, and so was every Democrat elected crook who voted for it. Let us not forget that Congress has had its own medical plan for the life of each elected “legislator.” Obviously, the ACA posed hazards in it, therefore Congress has its own plan.

    Still, the Republicans would not vote for it and we see why now. The Democrats own this monumental waste of tax-payor dollars! So, now they put out their S.O.S. in hopes that Republicans will save the corrupt, Obama-obliging, Democrats. I wonder how Democrat voters felt about the news that Obama & Co. paid a large sum to a wizard chiseler from the Ivy League, to author the ACA? I recall his congressional testimony that Obama Inc. wanted a bill authored that the stupid masses would look upon as a great innovation…just for them! The Ivy League professor, in testimony, stated that “the people, the consumers,” would never understand the ACA anyway!

    People were warned, Republican legislators warned that they would not vote in Congress for this vehicle meant to control the people, not remedy their medical problems.
    So, now the Democrats want Republicans to help fix it, and actually more for Democrat reputations even if the ACA needed a completely new bill. I want to see a significant health coverage for all Americans, but not for the reason of rescuing the Democrats who knew it was lousy in the first place and still voted for it. Hopefully, under a President.Trump and his administration, and with the assistance of the U.S. Congress, a new health coverage will be produced, meant to cover the people and not have cost increases that would make it unaffordable and unworkable as the Obama ACA has proved.

  • usathoughts

    Couple points. 1) The Medical Industry encompasses 1/6 (17 percent) of the economy. 2) The entire program was written by five men with half the program dedicated to Taxes. None had expert knowledge of Finance nor Economics. The program was not means tested nor a cost benefit analysis done.

    The program appears to be designed to fail. Most likely to be replaced with a single payer government program. The Democrats losing the House & Senate killed that plan. You may have noticed government employees and Politicians are exempt from the current program.

    Have you ever tried to get a ruling from the IRS – never the same answer twice. Same with Obamacare. Think about it; a program requiring millions of independent decisions to be made within this industry. The programming alone would take many thousands of man hours, if not millions. IBM and Microsoft have spent an untold amount of money and man hours (million lines of code) to approximate a similar type program. They have not been successful in achieving their objective.

    • Morton99

      And yet the program has been remarkably successful as designed. The current issues are nothing to do with the management of Obamacare, but the panicking of HMOs that failed to game the system – and are now looking at diminished profits. I see that as a vindication of the program not a failure at all. So the only reason the HMOs are getting cold feet is all about their profits. Its time to fire them and put the entire program in the hands of the SSA as an adjunct to Medicare. The administration costs of the SSA are extremely low – about 2 percent of the revenue (as compared to the HMOs that cost around 33 percent of the revenue). They can still perform a useful role in offering adjunct insurance (as in most nations) which the wealthy demand and have another use in determining the efficiency of the public healthcare system.

      • usathoughts

        My Computer firm set up the first three HMO facilities in Orange County California. Far different from what they morphed into. They cattered to families. Limited to minor surgery and out patient service for major surgery. They charged a single monthly fee per family. Dispensed medicine through their own Pharmacy. After about three years the Government stepped in causing them to change how they operated. All I know about it is that they were not happy and put a lot of the blame on the AMA.

        If the design was to dramatically increase medical cost it has certainly done so. I know this just within my extended family. Even though a veteran still go to my family doctor. I pay cash which is a lot less than what they charge the insurance services. Even for a hospital visit settled the bill for less than half by paying cash.

        The biggest gripe i hear is about the deductibles. Today is like the old catastrophic insurance plans. Why have insurance with a $7,000 deductible and a $700 per month insurance premium. This is what a Plumber & wife are charged – nephew.

        Don’t know anyone on welfare or some entitlement program but I expect the program will be great for them. And only because of the working mans taxes and many billions in deficit spending.

        Why do you think there is such angst over the Debt/Credit Crises facing our Nation? Our medical support system is a big part of it. So much for the success of Socialism.

        • Morton99

          This is HMO pricing – remember that the ACA is an exchange operated by for profit HMOs.

          • usathoughts

            I don’t where you are going with this? HMO’s look for a return on their investment. Well, would hope so, otherwise why be in business.

            Every once and awhile read about a Clinic and/or Hospital closing down. A few years past a vast number of HMOs went out of business. Don’t know the current status. Do know that doctors in my area no longer accept new patients along with many that have retired.

            It is almost if you are reading from cue cards. Who are you and what is your position with regard to this.

          • Morton99

            I am suggesting that HMOs confine their business to supplemental insurance policies for wealthy people and neurotics. The vast majority of the population just need good solid healthcare which really does not need a pencil pushing middle man to cream off 33 percent of the revenue. There are a number of model systems for public healthcare which work brilliantly at half the cost we are subjected to.

          • usathoughts

            Took the trouble to look up the HMO Industry.

            469 Total in Business – this date.
            122,791 – Employment August, 2016.
            176 Billion yearly in total revenue. August 2016.
            Growth rate of 3.6 percent, 2011-2016.

            That is only .006 percent of GDP.
            Medical Market Industry value; 4.2 trillion
            HMO’s have .04 of this market.

            Not exactly a barn burner! Factor in inflation, they are losing ground.

            Point is, they are insignificant.

          • Morton99

            With due respect, that does not tell the whole story not even slightly.
            Revenues in the healthcare industry for 2015 were $1.668 trillion.
            http://www.statisticbrain.com/health-care-industry-statistics/

            While the claimed profits reflected in dividends were approx. 7 percent, the real ROI was much higher. You see stock buy-backs and capitalization is not included in the annual profit for these companies.
            The real return on investment in the healthcare industry when you include stock appreciation (which is a reflection of capitalization and future revenue growth) is nearer 15 percent.

            Now that is a very significant figure closer to $ 250 billion annually.

  • Sometimes when something is broken, the cost of repair has to be factored into any decision we all face as things we have, fail us. My opinion is that the ADA is not worth fixing, except to do so temporarily in order to crease a better system down the road. I certainly would support by-partisan effort to provide a workable health care system. The main issue is the runaway cost of medical care, including the cost of drugs. But the issue of the reality of many of our drugs that have more side affects that are damaging beyond what the drug supposedly “cures”. Therefore it will take quite awhile for a by-partisan effort to create a better system.

  • Patriot

    Better to just get rid of it.

  • Fred Smith

    This POS zerocare has done nothing to force anyone to get healthcare insurance- I live on the US Mexico border and every hospital ER is filled with illegals demanding and getting free health care, the federal law requiring all medical facilities to treat regardless of immigration status or ability to pay was never repealed and hospital MUST provide services-there is no need to buy insurance just go to any ER and they have to treat you.

  • epauls

    Democrats always say they solicit Republican help…… HELP TO DO THINGS THE DEMOCRAT WAY. The same ol’ ME-ME-ME which means my way and help ME BUY VOTES.

  • Yip Yap

    If Hillary were put into office, all those ‘Never Trumpers’, establishment GOP creeps, NRO turncoats, members of the Republican wing of the Dimocratic Party, McConnell and Ryans…all will be falling over themselves to lick Hillary’s boots just as they have Obama’s.

    AND…In 2020, they will still be wondering why their next slate of losers can’t get anywhere with us.

    YOU KNOW IT!

  • allenhip

    ACA nonpartisan point of view – detailed facts do matter!
    http://kff.org/health-reform/fact-sheet/summary-of-the-affordable-care-act/
    http://kff.org/search/?s=aca+2016

    August 1, 2016 Perspective
    How ACA Marketplace Premiums Measure Up to Expectations

    Premium increases in the health insurance marketplaces created under the Affordable Care Act (ACA) will likely be higher in 2017 than in recent years; however, the actual average benchmark premiumin the ACA marketplaces in 2016 is below what the Congressional Budget Office projected for 2016 before the health law was passed. How actual marketplace premiums compare to what CBO expected in doing those budget projections is an important factor in determining whether the ACA continues to be on track to reducing the deficit.

    If you’re going to challenge the facts please list your source where you’re getting your miss information from please.

  • Yip Yap

    Make no mistake or be deceived…OBAMA WANT’S OBAMACARE TO FAIL!…he has all along.

    Why?…COZ, he really wants Universal Healthcare…a single payer system run by our government…

    Another step towards his SOCIALISM and as taught in our colleges.

    • Morton99

      He made no secret of wanting a full public option. That was a plank of Bernie Sanders campaign – and since he was the overwhelming favorite of millennials it is really just a matter of time before it happens.

  • kbmiller

    The DUMB A$$ oc RATS shut the republicans out of the room during their “Writing ” of this POS bill, now they want their help fixing it? They’ve disrupted the health care insurance system of over 290 million people for the benefit (giving free health care) to 10 million leaches. Really, how stupid are the inept, LYING, crooked DUMB A$$ oc RATS anyway?

  • Jerry Cox

    Why not redesign with the Public Sector getting a little assistance and get the Government out things they have never been good at. This is and was socialism and it has failed big time. Why help them tweak a disaster to begin with.

    • Morton99

      Wrong. The entire system is actually managed by private HMOs and administered by non government healthcare providers. What they had to deal with was the anti gouging provisions which are an integral part of the ACA.

  • Osamao

    I have a good fix. R.I.C.O. and a firing squad for every yeah vote to start. THEY KNEW because WE KNEW!!!……………It was passed in fascistic manner REMEMBER!!!!. Seems to be the new M.O. of the Communist Democrats lately. They did it on PURPOSE and told those that knew to SHUT UP. They then proceeded to LIE about the disaster and STILL DO with the aid of a treasonous Communist Democrat media covering as Goebbels for them. When Gruber said, “Due to the stupidity of the American Voter or whatever?…………The “Whatever” is a substitute word for Tyranny. The party deserves to go extinct after what they’ve done to us. They’re traitors. Lets not prove to the elitists we’re stupid as they treat or think we are……….Please?

  • Airborne869

    OBAMA, HILLARY, PELOSI AND REID…

    “We have to Pass Obama’sCare before we READ IT.”

  • Richard Bagenstose

    to show you how stupid they are , people couldn’t afford to buy health ins. before oboma care and since then millions of more people are out of the work force , so just how are they suppose to pay for it now , then on top of it , the premeums are higher and the dectucables are out ragous , , and you your going to fine or tax people for not buying it , well how are they going to pay the fine , because they are still broke, now if they would have taken the 33 billion dollars oboma gave to iran , it would have paid to cover a lot of americans for a year, then you have the drug companies that are out of control , rising prices 500 , 600%, crooks that’s what they are and the politicians are filling there pockets with the money

  • thedeplorablerayr66

    So liberals pass a bill they knew nothing about and now want someone else to fix it. Yeah, this is the kind of ineptitude I want running the country. But I have no doubt the CAREER POLITICIANS = CORRUPT GOVERNMENT on both sides will do exactly that and try to fix the unfixable. What complete fools we have running this country. I support Trump, but I don’t hold out much hope of him being able to turn things around. The reason I say this is because he will be facing opposition from all directions, not just from liberals but CAREER POLITICIANS = CORRUP GOVERNMENT on both sides.

  • Blanche

    Hillary wants a universal government mandated health care system prevalent in Europe. So why do so many heads of states come to America for their personal health care? Because it is the best. Europeans in many countries such as Denmark wait for months to see a doctor with the socialized medicine. Some one could die from cancer before they see a DR or it’s too late by the time they do. Sure it’s free, because they pay 40 to 50% in come tax, even the poorest pay an income tax. They have 180% tax on new car & used car sales., more than the car is worth. The money comes from somewhere for all of the freebies. Taxes are calculated down to a gnat’s a$$. It’s suffocating.

    • Morton99

      Actually we do have some of the most renowned surgeons in the world. But so do the Brits, the Swiss, the French, the Germans and even the Arab Emirates. You just read about people coming here. You will find the same story in all the nations I have mentioned. There re many specialists in the world.

      • Peatro Giorgio

        Yes it is true some other nations do have renowned specialist in the medical industry. However unlike the USA Pre-Obama No care. Our specialist were easily accessible and affordable. Hence the very reason over 1 million nationalist those of other nations came here to the USA seeking emergency Medical treatments. Where as; One may have heard of the rare 100 – 200 visitors to other nations seeking to have their medical needs met. Point of fact like you there are many speaking about the health care benefits of other nations ,whether eastern or European nation .Let me simple state this 99.9 % of you all talk out your ‘asses .Simply visiting other nations on holiday or an extended vacation does not give you the expertise; into those systems. I on the other hand have lived and worked in several European Countries ,Specifically Italy, Greece ,France Spain, Britain Austria,& Germany. What I am factually able to state with out reservation is this. For those who are able to financially afford to purchase secondary, additional Private health insurance coverage they are Okay. But the vast majority,Those who aren’t able to afford additional coverage.They will tell you horror after horror story. Consisting of Months years waiting in long lines ,in wait of emergency medical procedures only to be told those procedures are not covered. Other will tell you of long waiting period’s of weeks and months just to see a doctor.Then to only be told they have to get in another line to see specialist . I do I know this for fact .Here’s your clue. Its called extended family members who live and work through out Europe and have lived there their entire lives .We are not talking of a mere few but rather several hundred 1st -2nd and 3rd cousins, Aunts, Uncles, and great Aunts and Uncles. The majority of which are in the middle to upper middle income Brackets. They all agree Government tax payer provided health care SUCKS And the also hate the fact that over 85% of their incomes Go directly to the Government. So please don’t try to tell us That The stink of shit is the same as that of the fragrance of Roses

        • mrpoohead

          A McKinsey and Co. report from 2008 found that between 60,000 and 85,000 medical tourists were traveling to the United States for the purpose of receiving in-patient medical care.[70] The same McKinsey study estimated that 750,000 American medical tourists traveled from the United States to other countries in 2007 (up from 500,000 in 2006).[71] The availability of advanced medical technology and sophisticated training of physicians are cited as driving motivators for growth in foreigners traveling to the U.S. for medical care,[70] whereas the low costs for hospital stays and major/complex procedures at Western-accredited medical facilities abroad are cited as major motivators for American travelers.[71] Also, the decline in value of the U.S. dollar between 2007 and 2013 used to offer additional incentives for foreign travel to the U.S., although cost differences between the US and many locations in Asia are larger than any currency fluctuations.

          A million right – there’s a little man at the bottom of the garden dreaming up your garbage isn’t there. Which planet is he from?

          Doubt you’ve been overseas whereas I have and have many friends all over – never met anyone with extra health insurance and never a Frenchman not proud of his health system. It’s Numero Uno.

          You got no facts, just BS and hyperbole. Feed the alien more and he may find some truth.

  • A natural born American

    “This system cannot continue to function as it is, and a few quick-fixes will only delay the inevitable. Republicans, do not get stuck holding the bag when this ship goes down. And do not stand idly by and watch while Democrats replace Obamacare with Obama’s true vision: Universal, European-style healthcare.” Which American tax dollars have been subsidizing throughout the world. Who’s going to subsidize this social program when the whole USA is part of that European universal healthcare system? And hasn’t at least one of those EU countries announced that they’re going to have to deny expensive medical attention to overweight people and smokers and everyone else whose lifestyle doesn’t fit in with a handful of people whose idea of ‘healthy lifestyle’ doesn’t agree with most humans?

    • Morton99

      Oh relax. If we can provide as much money for our military as half of all militarized nations accumulated on this planet -= we can ad a bit more to provide for our own citizens. Public healthcare is not a matter of if, but when – and with Hillary it could happen within 4 years.

  • sox83cubs84

    The best help Republicans could give to the Socialist Democraps (and our nation) would be to repeal this POS legislation and replace it with a free-market system that is not government-centric.

    • AntiGOP

      Best thing you can do for America is get the fuck out of the country…
      And take these shitheads with you…

      • sox83cubs84

        I just blocked you, libtard troll. Typical liberal…great on name-calling and lousy on debating facts.

        • AntiGOP

          Another highly intelligent idea by a Alt-Right church boy…

          Some people just don’t get it…

  • Peatro Giorgio

    Yes now in order to repair the failed legacy of a entirely , Failed progressive presidency. The demo-rats now turn to republicans for help . Where were you scum sucking lying thieves when,then the American people said no way ,we want our own Market place Health care reforms. Where were you scumbags when everyone else was suggesting to open up Health care competition across state lines, where were you liberal,progressive lying scumbags when everyone else suggested minor reforms. Such as requiring health insurance providers include preexisting medical conditions. Where were you leaches ,lying scumbags . Who instead of market based reforms, Chose a system which was Gurreenteed to fail , Gurreenteed to destroy the world’s greatest health care system that system which tens of thousand of other flew drove across our borders in order to access. Where were you rat bastards an RaT faced bitches.

  • John Williams

    Democrats were warned, obama was warned, the people were warned; obmacare would not work, the democrats shoved it down our throats and lied about it. The democrats own it, they will pay the price for it come election time.

    • Morton99

      Ah – but it DOES work. Its the HMOs that have become the problem.

      • John Williams

        Ah but wait, that was one of the things that was pointed out to them along with to you useful idiots, forced government pricing and regs don’t work, this is just exactly what was pointed out to you fools. Next it will be quantity and quality that suffer, which leads to the patient suffering because of government intervention. This is well on its way of turning a first class healthcare system into a poor quality and long waiting system that will then decide who gets what care or if they even get care, remember the “death panels” that were mentioned, well when some useless bureaucrat starts making medical decisions that is what you will get. But hey there will still be you useful idiots around to pay more money into a broken system.

        • Morton99

          There is no ‘forced’ pricing. The ACA manages a market pricing mechanism. But you thought you were an expert didn’t you !

          • John Williams

            “Obama bureaucrats are trying to put the squeeze on state health
            insurance commissioners to reject the significant premium increases many
            health insurers are seeking: “Now the Obama administration is weighing
            in, asking state insurance regulators to take a closer look at rate
            requests before granting them. Under the Affordable Care Act, state
            agencies largely retain the right to regulate premiums in their states.”

            True to form, Obama officials are claiming things are going great, but they wouldn’t be sending out the letter to
            commissioners if that were true. They are seeing the news stories and
            reports—and no doubt hearing from disgruntled Americans—that insurers
            are seeking significant premium increases, especially in the individual
            market (i.e., where people, rather than an employer, buy their own
            policy).

            President Obama and the Democrats who foisted Obamacare on the
            country promised faithfully that the law would lower costs and control
            health care spending. Now that it is clear that health insurance
            premiums are rising quickly—and premiums rise because prices and
            spending are rising—Team Obama is unleashing its price control police.

            Anyone who thinks health care prices and spending will go down when
            you expand health coverage to millions of uninsured, force insurers to
            cover many more procedures, and pump in hundreds of billions of federal
            tax dollars is a fool.”
            I agree with this article, you are a fool, obama and democrats lied to the American people, it is coming home to haunt them and the useful idiots are out, albeit in a dwindling force, many have figured out they were lied to as well. Some are a little slow, but hey, maybe you will eventually catch on. Everything that was predicted about obamacare, is coming true, prices are going up almost exponentially, service is starting to go down, doctors are starting to leave the profession and it is a matter of time before services are limited. I for one want to see a doctor who makes a good living, not one, who just goes to work for a mediocre wage, I want to be seen as a person not as a quota percentage. I am sure that if you ask one of the millions of Americans who were forced to give up a good private plan for a worse ACA forced plan, one that does not cover as well and with a much higher deductible, they will be more than happy to explain your foolishness.

  • akoby

    Sure, now they want our help. They certainly didn’t want it when they were shoving it down out throats. Democrats OWN Obamacare. They want to “fix” it? Start by repealing it and let the free market work the way it should.

    • Morton99

      No – they want pragmatic acquiescence.

  • George

    It’s time for the government to stop protecting the insurance companies and provide a public option. By eliminating the middle man and excessive profits, more funds could be applied toward actual medical care.
    Then, and only then, will the insurance companies begin to compete for your business.
    Mandatory insurance laws have always resulted in higher costs to the consumer, because it eliminates the need for competition and encourages price fixing among the competitors.

  • Lary Breeding

    Democrats don’t really want Republican help. What they want is for Republicans to fall into line with them so they can rewrite it so that they can take credit for it. Democrats screwed up Obamacare and now they just want Republicans to sign off on it so that they can say it is bipartisan. Unfortunately, it will never be a good bill. Republican’s were intentionally excluded from any input in the bill and have had everything since forced down their throats. Now Democrats are now choking on the rotten fruit. There is no one responsible for this bad bill except Democrats. They alone are responsible for everything bad that has transpired since. Republicans should stay far, far away.

  • Here’s a “fix” for Obamacare:

    ADMIT THAT IT’S A COLOSSAL DAMNED FAILURE, AND GET RID OF IT

    • Morton99

      Maybe you should emigrate – somewhere like Mexico where there is absolutely no public healthcare at all.

      • If anyone si going to leave America the Beautiful it will be fascist asshats like you who have no place here. Go on back to Venezuela or orth Korea or some other “workers paradise”, ya daft finger pointing bed wetting lil crybaby

  • AKLady2015

    The U.S. is the only modern, industrialized country which allows people to die, simply because they cannot afford to buy medical care.

    Apparently, that is something you are very proud of.

    I strongly suspect you also clain to be a Christian.
    Oh, and name calling is infantile.

  • Jonathan Brooks

    Democrat coin toss. Heads they win. Tails we die. You cannot fix anything designed specifically to fail and kill people and tax them to death while funding Islamic and illegal medical care for free. Obama is a demon, and the demon is in the Obamacare details.

  • maxx

    How in the world do you fix something that was deliberately created to be “forced wealth redistribution” when “WD” is a socialist agenda goal”. Any Republican with a brain knows it would be suicide to do that.

  • yellowjacket2

    I see that insanity within the Democrat party is not limited to Hillary Clinton.

  • Beeotchstewie the deplorable

    The only help the Shariacrats are due is help to repeal it , kill it in it’s entirety. It was never intended to help anyone, just ruin the finances of the middle class in order to make them more dependent on “da gubmint” for health care. It was , in its most accurate description, a way to increase governernment dependency to usher in socialism aka COMMUNISM. Now quick, name me ONE thing Obama has done that was actually beneficial to the USA. Trick question.

  • Ddenney1

    So 5 years ago when this fiasco started for the 2nd time no Demon Rat listened and NOW Hillarycare or Oblammer care needs to be scraped and the Demon Rats STILL do not get it!!!! Government can’t fix anything!!!!!! The road to hell is paved with good intentions!!!! HGow long before they blame US undesirables???

  • marilyn

    next time you dumbos’ must read the program,ms palosi,the past leader in congress said,gosh we should have read this tragic obama care structured by a neofite who has never done any thing of a serious nature,solution fire the congress who take our money and do little,politics are not slanted to help america,only a party called democrates who exist only for power
    GOD BLESS AMERICA

  • Laddyboy

    There IS only one FIX! Repeal the ILLEGAL OBAMACARE AND ALL OF THE HIDDEN TAXES, INCREASES that go along with this COMMUNISTIC, SOCIALISTIC, FASCIST – ILLEGALLY DEMOCRATICALLY OWNED and PASSED FIASCO SYSTEM.
    It was MEANT to FAIL.
    It was intended to bring about the “one payer medical system” which IS a COMMUNISTIC, TOTALLY controlled government system.

  • THANKFUL

    AND, all government officials made themselves exempt from Obozocare. If it’s suppose to be so good, why are they exempt? I say all who were against Obozocare should be exempt from it. Than see what happens.

  • jaybird

    There are so many things in Obamacare that have nothing to do with health care that take affect down the road. Taxes for one thing. Get rid of it and make it short and simple or is that an impossible task for politicians?

  • Loosgravel

    They sure as hell didn’t want Republican help writing it. Republicans should let them choke on it.

  • Jimmee41

    The best fix is “Nuke It” and get a competition based plan that will raise competency and lower cost!!!!

  • Terry Hamblin

    Obamacare was passed with only Democrat votes, nobody from the GOP voted for it. It was voted in because Nancy Pelosi admonished the Democrats to vote for it without reading it! Many people mistakenly believe that Obamacare is a Healthcare system, it is not! The Obamacare website, (worth 6 million dollars by the way), does nothing more than present users with several insurance companies to chose a healthcare plan from, something that already existed, (all you have to do is google “healthcare” and the same companies pop up with plans, prices etc…) Obamacare did do three things however:
    1.- Provided monies to low income families so that they could get healthcare cheaply, (initially if the users went through the Federal Marketplace, later amended by the Supreme Court to include people who went through State-run Marketplaces also)
    2.- Added several mandatory requirements including allowing pre-existing conditions to enter at the same price, thus causing the insurance companies to rethink the paradigm and raise policy prices after cancelling all of the existing policies, so many people who had health insurance before Obamacare came about, can no longer afford health insurance.
    3.- Obamacare added 25 new or increases in taxes to help pay for Obamacare, so you get screwed on both ends, higher healthcare prices and more taxes, thanks a lot!
    The sour grapes in the article about single payer healthcare is in my experience, stupid! I lived under the Spanish single payer healthcare system for several years. The Doctors and caregivers were top-notch and the Hospitals also. I have not been back in 9 years so I do not know if the Muslim horde has destroyed the system as yet, but if they are allowed to continue immigrating they will!

  • SAMUEL OLAGUE

    GET RID OF IT. 2017

  • mudguy1
  • Walter Flatt

    OBAMA CARE WILL BE FIXED WHEN TRUMP IS ELECTED PRESIDENT, HE WILL DO AWAY WITH IT AND REPLACE IT WITH SOMETHING BETTER.

    FROM A KOREAN WAR VET 51/53

    HAVE WE BEEN SET UP FOR A MUSLIM INVASION, BY HILLIARY, OBAMA, SOROS, AND THE BIASED NEWS MEDIA? IF NOT. READ ALL THE WHYS BELOW.

    WHY HAS HILLIARY, OBAMA, KERRY AND THE BIASED NEWS MEDIA DONE EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO HELP THE RADICAL MUSLIMS.

    A LAW WAS PASEED IN 1952 BARRING ALL MUSLIMS FROM THIS COUNTRY, THAT WILL INCLUDE OBAMA AND ALL HE HAS AROUND HIN IN DC.

    WHY DID THIS ADMINSTRATION TRY AND BUY ALL AMMO?

    WHY TRADE 5 TERRIOST FROM CUBA FOR ONE TRAITOR?

    WHY TRY AND TAKE OUR GUNS? HITLER DID, & HISTORY TELLS US WHAT HAPPENED THERE.

    WHY ALLOW A MINIMUM OF 35 MUSLIM CAMPS HERE IN THE STATES?
    WHY ARE THERE 5 MUSLIM CAMPS IN N. VA. CLOSE TO DC? ARE THEY TO TAKE WASHINGTON?

    WHY BUILD A FEMA CAMP IN EVERY STATE, SOME MORE THAN ONE, WITH ARMED GUARDS? ARE THEY TO HOLD MUSLIMS?

    WHY ARE THEY BRINGING THOUSANDS OF YOUNG MUSLIMS HERE?

    WHY IS THE TAX PAYER HAVING TO FEED, CLOTH & HOUSE THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSAND OF MUSLIMS BEING BROUGHT HERE?

    WHY GIVE THE THOUSANDS OF MUSLIMS BROUGHT IN FREE HEALTH CARE, SPENDING THOUSANDS FOR HOSPITAL CARE?

    WHY ARE THE ILLEGALS BEING TREATED BETTER THAN OUR VETERANS.
    WHY STOP THE TANK AND PLANE SHIPPMENT TO EGYPT, WHEN THEIR ARMY KICK THE RADICALS OUT?

    WHY DID OUR GOVERNMENT SEND BILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO HELP THE RADICALS IN IRAN, A COUNTRY OUT TO DESTROY US?

    WHY ARE WE SENDING BILLIONS TO ARAB COUNTRIES, AND LETING OUR COUNTRY GO TO POT?

    WHY DONT THEY ENFORCE THE LAW BARRING ALL MUSLIMS FROM THIS COUNTRY?

    WHY IS THE MUSLIM MAJOR IN TEXAS LIVING THAT KILLED 14 SOLDIERS AND WOUNDED A LOT MORE?

    WHY ARE THEY RELEASING ALL MUSLIMS IN CUBA TO GO BACK INTO ACTION TO KILL OUR SOLDIERS?

    WHY DONT WE HANG ALL MUSLIMS CAUGHT AND BURY THEM WITH PIG PARTS, LIKE GENERAL PERSHING DID IN THE PHILLIPENS?

    WHY WAS OBAMA ALLOWED TO SWEAR IN CARLOYN WALKER AS JUDGE IN BROOKLIN USING THE QURAN?

    I SAY, ARM ALL OUR TROUPS TO PREVENT A MUSLIM TAKEOVER. THINK IT IS IMPOSSIBLE. I CAN TAKE 100 AND TAKE ANY BASE IN 1 HOUR.

    BETTER COAT ALL YOU AMMO WITH PIGS BLOOD OR GREASE, THINGS DO NOT LOOK GOOD.

    JUST PRAY THAT DONALD TRUMP IS ELECTED AND IS ABLE TO TAKE OVER AS OUR PRESIDENT.

    GOOGLE THE NEW CLINTON CHRONICLE 2015 AND YOU JUST MIGHT KNOW WHY.

    BELOW IS A GOOD REASON WHY I BELIEVE THAT A TAKEOVER TRY IS POSSIBLE. HOW CAN THE BIASED NEWS SAY OBAMA IS NOT A MUSLIM.

    President Obama: This is why you didn’t go to France to show solidarity against the Muslim terrorists:
    * It was you . . . who spoke these words at an Islamic dinner -“I am one of you.”
    * It was you . . . who on ABC News referenced -“My Muslim faith.”
    * It was you who . . . gave $100 million in U.S. taxpayer funds to re-build foreign mosques.
    * It was you who . . . wrote that in the event of a conflict- “I will stand with the Muslims.”
    * It was you who . . . assured the Egyptian Foreign Minister that – “I am a Muslim.”
    * It was you who . . . bowed in submission before the Saudi King.
    * It was you who . . . sat for 20 years in a Liberation Theology Church condemning Christianity and professing Marxism.
    * It was you who . . . exempted Muslims from penalties under Obamacare that the rest of us have to pay.
    * It was you who . . . purposefully omitted – “endowed by our Creator ” – from your recitation of The Declaration Of Independence.
    * It was you who . . . mocked the Bible and Jesus Christ’s Sermon on the Mount while repeatedly referring to the ‘HOLY’ Qur’an.
    * It was you who . . . raveled the Islamic world denigrating the United States of America.
    * It was you who . . . instantly threw the support of your administration behind the building of the Ground Zero Victory mosque overlooking the hallowed crater of the World Trade Center.
    * It was you who . . . refused to attend the National Prayer Breakfast, but hastened to host an Islamic prayer breakfast at the White House.
    * It was you who . . . ordered Georgetown Univ. and Notre Dame to shroud all vestiges of Jesus Christ BEFORE you would agree to go there to speak, but in contrast, you have NEVER requested the mosques you have visited to adjust their decor.
    * It was you who . . . appointed anti-Christian fanatics to your Czar Corps.
    * It was you who . . . appointed rabid Islamists to Homeland Security.
    * It was you who . . . said that NASA’s “foremost mission” was an outreach to Muslim communities.
    * It was you who . . . as an Illinois Senator was the ONLY individual who would speak in favor of infanticide.
    * It was you who . . . was the first President not to give a Christmas Greeting from the White House, and went so far as to hang photos of Chairman Mao on the WH tree.
    * It was you who . . . curtailed the military tribunals of all Islamic terrorists.
    * It was you who . . . refused to condemn the Ft. Hood killer as an Islamic terrorist.
    * It is you who . . . has refused to speak-out concerning the horrific executions of women throughout the Muslim culture, but yet, have submitted Arizona to the UN for investigation of hypothetical human-rights abuses.
    * It was you . . . who when queried in India refused to acknowledge the true extent of radical global Jihadists, and instead profusely praised Islam in a country that is 82% Hindu and the victim of numerous Islamic terrorists assaults.
    * It was you who . . . funneled $900 Million in U.S. taxpayer dollars to Hamas.
    * It was you who . . . ordered the USPS to honor the MUSLIM holiday with a new commemorative stamp.
    * It was you who . . . directed our UK Embassy to conduct outreach to help “empower” the British Muslim community.
    * It was you who . . . funded mandatory Arabic language and culture studies in Grammar schools across our country.
    * It is you who . . . follows the Muslim custom of not wearing any form of jewelry during Ramadan.
    * It is you who . . . departs for Hawaii over the Christmas season so as to avoid past criticism for NOT participating in seasonal WH religious events.
    * It was you who . . . was uncharacteristically quick to join the chorus of the Muslim Brotherhood to depose Egypt’s Hosni Mubarak, formerly America’s strongest ally in North Africa; but, remain muted in your non-response to the Brotherhood led slaughter of Egyptian Christians.
    * It was you who . . . appointed your chief adviser, Valerie Jarrett, an Iranian, who is a member of the Muslim Sisterhood, an off-shoot of the Muslim Brotherhood.
    * It was you who . . . said this country is not a Christian nation.
    * It was you who . . . said the Muslim call to worship is the most beautiful sound on earth.
    * IT WAS YOU WHO GAVE 150 BILLION PLUS TO IRAN.
    * IT WAS YOU WHO RANSOMED 4 PEOPLE FOR 400 MILLION/
    * ARE YOU, KERRY, HILLIARY & THE BIASED NEWS MEDIATO TRYING TO DESTROY OUR COUNTRY?

    VOTE DONALD TRUMP.

  • Don’t Tread on Me

    Thanks for the invitation to help clean up the party, D’s. That “We need to pass the bill to see what’s in it!” approach does not work with something as big and as fundamental as health care. The system is atrocious. What worked before no longer works, and what wasn’t there functions about as well. I can’t even get in to see my doctor (yeah, the one I used to go to) for a “wellness visit” for a minimum of three months, and I’m stuck considering whether my symptoms are bearable to put a visit to the doctor off indefinitely or go to the emergency room and battle for time with the illegal “refugees”. Congratulations! ObamaCare has brought the third world to American medicine!

  • jimshaw54

    Unfortunately, Donald Trump has said that he would usher in government paid for health care for everyone, declaring that it would be so efficient that costs would go down. When has “government” ever done something cheaper than the private market can supply? In most cases “government” means another layer of costs as well as “government” also making health care decisions rather than our doctors. People already have to wait for approval from insurance companies for some tests and procedures and some are already being denied, especially true for older Americans (mammograms and colonoscopies come to mind).

  • Dannie Poe

    The big problem is that the Supreme declared Obamacare as a tax to give it credibility. If it is viewed as a tax it should define what the tax supports. Does it shore up Medicare or does it apply to some other form of healthcare. If it is tax on wages then it should apply to only those who pay taxes much like Social Security. One major flaw of Obamacare is the mandatory requirement for employers to provide health coverage for over a 30 hour week. To get around this requirement employers simply offer less then 30 hours of work a week making this part time labor. We have become a part time labor nation. This is a totally unproductive move for a nation based on middle class productivity. The citizens of the middle class are the citizens who pay the taxes to support government programs. The concept of you get what you pay for should be applied to Obamacare. The incentive to work and receive benefits for working must be applied to healthcare. The taxpayers have no responsibility to support programs in relations to non citizens be they illegals, refugees, of cheap foreign labor. If US Citizens do not take a stand on this issue, the nation will forever be a debtor nation. I for one do not agree that we need government regulating national healthcare. The VA is a prime example of how government fails veterans. National healthcare controlled by government will decline as well. Time and time again the Federal Government
    has shown US Citizens it’s incompetence through regulations. The Federal Government should get out of the healthcare business PERIOD.

  • Osamao

    R.I.C.O. and a firing squad for every COMMUNIST DEMOCRAT that voted for this COMMUNIST DEMOCRAT WAR ON THE MIDDLE CLASS (Obamaocare)!!!. Don’t even try to tell me they didn’t know. They told us to shut up and take it remember???!!!!….. BLODD!!!……….I WANT BLOOD!!!

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