• MILES E DRAKE

    The establishment of the collectivist dictatorship that the party of Marx, Mapplethorpe and Manning has in mind requires inability to function economically and socially, but also a mindset of dependence and victimhood. It is important for the Obammunists to flood the country with a Third World lumpenproletariat that cannot support itself, but is is crucial to change the thinking of the population so that it does not think it has to support itself. Both transformations will lead to chronic economic and political instability, and both of these will require the repeated and overwhelming application of state power to restore and maintain order. This has been the basis of every totalitarian regime throughout history, and this is what the party of Hillary, Hodgkinson and Hatred has planned if it is allowed this November. back into power

    • jimmy midnight

      Manning 4 Senate!

  • Larry Brule

    PEOPLE ON WELFARE HAVE MADE THIS THEIR MEDICAL PLAN. THIS ISN’T WHAT IT WAS FORMED FOR. END IT AND START OVER.

    • AmericanVoterTB619

      So according to you because I (oh btw, no choice what so ever, due to some jerk rear-ending my car… disabled me permanently) am on “Welfare (medicare, medicaid, EBT, SSI/Soc.) should be punished and do without…. Let someone HIT YOUR BACKSIDE, have to have a plate put into your spine (neck) and then find out that months later the jerk UNINSURED skips the country and your still facing MORE SPINE SURGERY… tell then that YOU LET IT HAPPEN….Bull SH**!!!!! Hey, here’s a novel ideal for you WALK A MILE IN MY SHOES… and then tell me how I am “FREE LOADing and making ANYTHING… my plan”

      • Linda Shelton

        People who are truly disabled, need plans to help them, but so many on welfare are not disabled, could be working and earning something, Look at the states that put in a 20 hour work or volunteer requirement, their welfare rolls went way down.

        • jimmy midnight

          Because they also cut people off!

          • floral

            As should be. I know many on welfare or just medicaid that have huge reserves of money and resources (ie trust fund 50yr olds who never worked a day in their lives, live in million $ homes with expensive cars and credit cards and deliberately access medicaid-it is quite easy to do).
            Cut them all off. Welfare creates a permanent dependent class, worse kind of slavery-because it is voluntary-and it encourages more out of wedlock births=more money and encourages no marriage or 2 parent families. Since welfare, which makes many more wealthy than those of us who work and pay those taxes, the 2parent family has gone from 70% to about 30% especially among welfare recipients.

          • jimmy midnight

            Name one “50 year old trust fund…in millions of $ homes,” who’s also on medicaid. Callin’ U out, U read it once, somewhere. And it may or may not have happened–once. Now you’re convinced that everybody but U is some kind of millionaire welfare queen, particularly/if they’re minority/don’cha see/just between U’n’me/U know no such people personally.

            Talk about Muslims thinking it’s okay to lie in support of a righteous cause!

          • floral

            What bunk! typical of your illogic and irrationality and inability to comprehend what is written. Your criticisms are not relevant to what I actually said.
            I do know many people with vast resources who chose to hide those so as not to spend on medical care when they could by a little change get everything out of their name or hide it. They are so stupid they think they will get good medical care at no cost to themselves when the medical problems are the result of using their resources to buy drugs and alcohol and prostitutes or multiple spouses or escorts (in more than one case, “trust funds” – they never worked a day in their lives). I know LOTS of people gaming the system. It is VERY easy. Nobody needs the drug primarily “medical care”, except maybe druggies….
            Muslims don’t lie in support of a righteous cause. Their so called “religion” encourages deceit and lies to further the “cause” of imposing islam on everyone, ESP the US. to create a muslim Caliphate that denies liberty, justice, equality. They don’t “feed the poor” but they do rape the welfare system to support islam and prevent their converts and refugees from assimilating and learning about liberty, justice and equality because they might learn that islam is nothing but lies and deceit.

          • jimmy midnight

            Muslims regard their deplorable cause as righteous. U also regard YOUR deplorable cause as righteous, because U view it through in the same delusional lens. Your religious andor partisan fanaticism allows U 2 lie. and 2 keep on lyin’. It’s even possible U actually believe this s*** you’ve hypnotized yourself 2 think is true.

            Islam is a form of monotheism, and it’s not hard 2 make a case that ALL these monotheisms R deceitful attempts 2 trick people into supporting various imperial projects. But that’s NOT all they R.

          • floral

            You are ignorant and wrong. My opinion, informed opinion, is not a “lie”, but your assertions are malicious lies.
            It is VERY hard for you to make a case that all religions are the same as islam. It stands alone in its contradictions and pagan roots. Your ignorance is showing as major mental defect and lack of any rational education.

          • Myke Britt

            Our Creator said “if a man won’t work, let him not eat”!

          • AmericanVoterTB619

            Really…. I just spent the past year ready the bible (KJV) from beginning to end…. and I do not recall a verse such as you mention… can you PLEASE give me the Chapter and Verse where God has such such? Mr. Britt?… and at least when I made my statements and did a few others I notices they too stated where his/her reference came from within the scriptures.

          • fran

            2 Thessalonians 3:9-11:

            9 We did this, not because we do not have the right to such help, but in order to offer ourselves as a model for you to imitate. 10 For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: “The one who is unwilling to work shall not eat.” 11 We hear that some among you are idle and disruptive. They are not busy; they are busybodies.

            Since the Bible is the divinely-inspired word of God, God said it — and meant it. Adam had a job in the Garden of Eden; Abraham raised livestock, as did Moses. Even Jesus trained as a carpenter. Of course, there are exceptions — and I truly feel your pain — but the general principle is that a person works for what he or she earns.

          • AmericanVoterTB619

            Thank you fran… for answer my question about the scriptures… I see that I need to devote more time in 2 Thessalonians as I failed to get this message when I read through the bible last year. Perhaps along with my restarting that journey I am also needing to review those mentioned here today.

          • jdalabama

            2 Thessalonians 3:10

          • ALL religions are evil mental illness… and, yes, most on welfare/medicaid are gaming the system…

          • Rex Whitmer

            Well floral, it sounds to me like the socialists have made you into their talking dummy. There is no one who is financially well off who would want to draw social funds which are granted according to your needs at the discretion of a welfare worker. On the other hand a working free person will purchase the best program he or she can afford, hoping to get the best care for his or her money. Unlike persons of your state of mind, they try to earn their own way, instead of looking for the best way to avoid being self sufficient. When you join a socialistic program, it is no longer your choice to make choices, but those whom pay the bills. Get off the couch, get some kind of training and go get a job and work to pay your way in life! Crying and whimpering will not do it! No one but you should be responsible for your quality of life, and If you must beg, be grateful to those whom help you!

          • Rex, you should be talking to jimmy midnight, not floral…

          • Myke Britt

            I am a retired retail store manager and OWNER. I saw it first hand thousands of times in THREE STATES AND SEVEN CITIES. Welfare check day and my store would be full of well dressed people buying jewelry, and other non necessity items.

          • cal3301

            Excuse me for butting in, but there are a couple living in my area. One has a Delorean, nice house, and quite a lot of money. He’s a drug addict, gets welfare, and says everything belongs to his father because they have the same name. I over heard him talking and bragging about it!

          • jimmy midnight

            By all means report him 2 appropriate authorities, then. Still don’t believe U, anymore than I’d believe HIM, or anyone else with these tall tales.

            Things overheard R just words, and words R the cheapest things…

            And how do U know he’s a Democrat? Perhaps because of ethnicity?

          • Kimberley

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          • Gammi2Anna

            I spent over half my lifetime working in healthcare and I can assure anyone doubting you that what you have revealed as to the extreme abuses of our Medicare/Medicaid system is 100% correct. When I first noticed how many people were cheating the system, I thought all that was needed was to report the scam. Not so easy. At one point, I was threatened with loss of my license and job, not by the abuser but by the Medicaid official I spoke with. They knew what was going on but refused to initiate an inquiry because it would be more expensive to assign an investigator, obtain the necessary documentations of proof and then take it to trial. As I continued my career, I was amazed with the ingenuity used by Medicaid/Medicare abusers. I often said that if these people would get off their lazy ass and put that ingenuity toward improvements, new discoveries and easier access to well paying jobs, America could do away with our entire corrupted Welfare System. Years later came the epidemic of drug addiction, provided by our Welfare system, primarily the Medicaid program. After recipients were allowed to obtain a Medicaid card in their home state, then travel across state lines and use the card in that state, the fix was in and our system was primed for the abuses that followed. This how it worked. John and/or Jane Doe, who lived in KY would get signed up for his/her Medicaid assistance. They would then find a doctor who had decided to take advantage of the easy way to make a buck by turning a blind eye to their oath to do no harm. For a cash fee, the doctor would write multiple prescriptions for narcotics, stimulators and sedatives for each family member. The Medicaid recipient would take the prescriptions to be filled at various Pharmacies across every different KY state line. Medicaid only required a $3.00 co-pay on each prescription of 30-60 pills. If that one person began with 10 prescriptions, then he/she had 300-600 pills which they had pay a whopping $30.00 in co-pays to have filled. According to the informant that was jovially telling me how easy the system was to scam, they could then sell the pills on the street for 10, 20, 30 dollars each. Now, for those disbelievers of what Floral said in her comment, you do the math and then explain to me how it is that you think she is wrong. As it became more wide spread, pain clinics set up across the country (with attached Pharmacy) and the money for seeing multiple patients each day, writing prescriptions which are then filled at the adjoining Pharmacy, this became an enterprising “career”. The patient that revealed their scheme to me did so explaining how he/she was able to own 3 very expensive sports cars, build a multimillion dollar house, dress from the most expensive designers and vacation all over the world. All while carrying his/her Medicaid card and still receiving that ‘gov-ment’ Welfare check. For all those that are dying to ask me the question I would be asking, the answer is NOTHING.

          • AmericanVoterTB619

            Gammi2Anna… your right, “They knew what was going on but refused to initiate an inquiry because it would be more expensive to assign an investigator, obtain the necessary documentations of proof and then take it to trial.” and I am in total agreement that it is a major part of the PROBLEM….we have to start with getting these type of individual out of the SYSTEM… out of CONTROL… and most importantly out of ELECTED GOVERNMENT POSITIONS… then perhaps we stand a chance and making REAL CHANGES THAT WORK…. from what I’m seeing President Trump appearing to be making progress in doing just that…. so for now…. I am keeping an open mind and praying that he succeeds where other have failed miserable.

          • Gammi2Anna

            The present “Opioid Addiction Crisis” has caught the attention of the MSM, giving them the opportunity to sensationalize a life and death addiction crisis across America. This problem has also come to the attention of our do-nothing local, state and federal Politicians who will begin their own investigative, which will end with much money spent with research, investigations and hearings with no solutions. It has long been my opinion that a politician could not solve the problem of how to open a bag of potato chips without their ‘personal aid’ to assist them. If they or the Media trolls cared to listen, it does not take a rocket scientist to know where to begin. As with every issue in even our daily lives, if we have a problem to solve we first must go to the source of the problem which is ‘the addict and the supplier’. In my State and many others surrounding us I know as a fact that the ‘major supplier’ of the opioids is our OWN STATE MEDICAID SYSTEM. What I revealed in my previous comment has become more sophisticated and operated by experts in the methods of deceit. They have their clients (addicts) who will do whatever is necessary, even using the last penny they have to feed their children, in order to obtain the drug. The provider (expert) uses professional “patients” that are trained in how to go to Medical/Dental Clinics, Offices, and Emergency rooms and pretentiously describe and exhibit symptoms that require treatment with medication to relieve pain. They will have a van load that are taken from place to place one day, then go into the next surrounding State and repeat. Most will run like this for 3-4 days, then on the 5th day they travel to a State where they can go to various Pharmacies or Pain clinics and get the prescriptions filled. Day 6 is return to Kingpin where they get paid for their work with cash and a few pills. The sellers then start sales, delivery and receipt of payment. Like I said, this has been going on for probably 20 years. It’s just gone to the level of being run like a high level enterprise in which we all are involved, either as a user, provider or just a hard working disgruntled tax payer. Then we wonder why our State cannot fix the pot-holes in the road or do repairs of the schools our children are forced to attend.

          • Fox5live

            Um, what was the question?

          • Rex Whitmer

            There’s a great difference between Medicade and Medicare. Medicare should be being paid for by the recipients where as Medicade lives off the dole! We’ve had Medicare for quite a long time. I’ve paid into it since it was created. I’m now retired and on medicare plus a domestic health insurance, which I pay for and also paid for before I retired! Congress passed medicare, supposedly to pay for people who’ve retired and paid into the fund. Medicade is government charity. Congress puts all the money we pay for both Medicare and Social Security in the general fund and uses them for whatever. Then when the people who’ve paid into the government their entire lives, scream and holler about the fund going broke! Of course it was. Congress spent it for other things! Another thing, the constitution states that no man shall be held responsible for another man’s debt! I would assume that, that would mean that money I paid into Medicare would be used to pay the medical bills of someone whom was not legally on Medicare! Medicare funds should not be being used to pay for Medicade!

          • Rex Whitmer

            Jimmy, the United States of America were established to allow men and women freedom. Persons such as yourself are rapidly pushing the government in to a “government knows best and should provide for all my needs, no matter what!” When this sort of government is ripe, it sets up rules and standards that take away freedoms. If you want to be free, you have to be in the position of being able to provide for your own needs, and then do so! When the government provide them, then you become the servant and the government the master! Think about it!

          • Denton Haskins

            When you ACTUALLY THINK how the gov’t can do everything for you, you come up with socialism/ communism!!!

          • jimmy midnight

            Controlling political authorities R buyers, employers, and supporters of last resort, whether or not any of us like it. Please bear in mind that they invariably take care of their own.

            Our founders’ vision included the necessity of providing an environment where people could live and dare and thrive in freedom, and, for example, created a national post office as their democratic socialist best-they-could-do-at-the-time way of enabling that.

            I’d ask U 2 think about it, but understand that’s beyond U.

          • Myke Britt

            Why shouldn’t certain people be cut off if they are able to work but refuse to??

          • jimmy midnight

            Because, fool, this is all about punishing people U don’t like. You’re so conditioned 2 thinking no one should get any public support, that you’ll get a large charge outta the thought of thousands perishing in the streets, so that the last three cheats can B scrubbed from the rolls. Of course, in your so-called mind, all the cheats, and the overwhelming majority of those “unfortunate results of diligent oversight” R minority.

            And, what is there that you’d have them do?

          • floral

            Take responsibility for themselves. The cheaters are not the minority, they are the Majority.

          • jimmy midnight

            They’d gladly take personal responsibility if they had personal property.

          • floral

            Not funny and unintelligent. As James Madison said, citizens have rights to their property and Property in their rights (beliefs). Everyone has individual (personal) rights and with those rights they have obligations (personal responsibility).

        • cal3301

          As a lawyer once told a friend of mine, If you can push a button, you can work. If she can sit there and type, she can work!!!

      • jimmy midnight

        Not surprised scam artists have stepped into the breach in which there R no public resources helping disabled people who want work, find work. We all know it’s the American way! And that that’s what deregulation does 4 ya.

        There can B no doubt that states adopting these “work requirements” will also lay off public employees who R now more or less making a living. Being forced 2 work 4 nothing, or even 4 very little, is slavery.

        Where slavery goes on, finding living-wage jobs obviously becomes more difficult.

        • AmericanVoterTB619

          I agree… and I do apologize to Mr. Brule, for being somewhat rude…. but it do tend to get irate when I am made to feel like ” nearly everything” that is wrong in our government is because of only one or two overall categories… (A) his/her legal status or (B) he/she is a recipient of some Sort of Welfare… when in actuality there are MANY reason’s that this Country is in the condition were are in today… AND in all honesty the “The Proverbial Downward Direction” started Long b4 I was ever of working or voting age.

          • jimmy midnight

            U do look 2 young 2 remember 11/22/63, which could’ve been the starting point of “downward direction.”

            The Mr. Brules do not understand the reality that almost all public assistance is quite badly NEEDED–or that it isn’t the part of government that’s “breaking the bank.” The worst part of that, is the lack of Human sympathy that it engenders.

          • floral

            It is NOT government’s job. The gov unconstitutionally took over charitable work by churches that was working to the benefit of the “poor” and “needy” and created a system that did NOT work and DID cost 100x as much and created a permanent dependent underclass and created more “poverty” and destruction of families and put the burden on the working “poor” and all who pay taxes which if they did not HAVE those taxes, would not be so “poor” and need more “public assistance”. Public assistance esp medical care is NOT needed. Personal responsibility and smart decisions ARE.

          • jimmy midnight

            Is there an available emogi, that say’s, “You’re really SICK with hatred!”?

          • floral

            If there were, it would apply to YOU who obviously hate anyone who offers disagreement to your mostly incomprehensible assertions about “need” with no understanding of what entitlements actually do to people and who those people are in the main (illegals and determined not to work or provide for themselves)

          • jimmy midnight

            More HATEFUL stereotyping right at the epicenter of what U have 2 say. Both vile AND pathetic.

            Oh! And dishonest, 2.

          • floral

            You just proved you have nothing of value or fact to offer and have to rely on ineffective and pointless vilification and absurd ad hominem.

          • YOU’RE SICK !!!

          • Two evil presidents/dictators were executed in Nov. 1963 !!!

          • Myke Britt

            As a Christian I am in favor of helping those who are GENUINELY in need. EVEN SO, OUR CHARITIES (SUPPORTED MOSTLY BY CONSERVATIVES) AND OUR RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS DO A GOOD JOB OF HELPING THE HELPLESS.

          • AmericanVoterTB619

            I was approximately 2.5 years old on when JFK was assassinated… in honest… I remember seeing my mom drop the pan she was holding and begin to cry… but at the time did not understand why…that date stuck with me until I was old enough to figure it out…Now there was a PRESIDENT!!!

          • floral

            I don’t agree. JFK has an undeserved reputation and did NOTHING for the US citizens. He talked a good game, but it was all smoke and mirrors. billyboy clinton followed in JFK’s footsteps and put adultery and sexual assault on steriods.

          • Myke Britt

            ILLEGAL ALIENS (AKA CRIMINALS) ARE A LARGE PART OF OUR PROBLEMS!

        • floral

          But welfare IS slavery and creates a permanent dependent class. You are lacking in the ability to think logically and rationally.

          • jimmy midnight

            Everybody needs some kind of, “No one can do it alone,” support. Mutual dependence isn’t slavery. I bet you’ve been married, and more or less learned that from experience.

          • floral

            You are so wrong. Medicaid is NOT “mutual dependence”. Again, you are not logical, rational or knowledgable.

          • Rex Whitmer

            See the above comment floral. Medicaid was set up for persons whom could not work because of some actual disability floral You have not earned it, it is given to those whom CANNOT work, not to those whom WILL NOT work. I am paying taxes a part of which foes to those whom at least are supposedly disabled to the point that they cannot work and earn at least part of their needs. I and every other taxpayer have had a portion of our wages confiscated and put into a fund to pay the needs of the completely disabled. If you are not completely disabled then you can and should be required to do what you can to support your needs, and this doesn’t include sitting, watching TV all day or any other worthless task!

          • floral

            Did I disagree with that? Unfortunately, even those who CAN work, get welfare, by hook or crook, not because they NEED it. Many times their NEED is their own fault, alcoholism, drug abuse carelessness….

          • Robert Ingram

            As a taxpayer I have no obligation to support you.

          • jimmy midnight

            U, self-evidently, have a legal obligation, and your tax money will go wherever the law says it should go.

            So let’s get DOWN–2 moral obligations, and remember what Jesus had 2 say about, “The least.”

          • That’s WHY we are changing those bad ‘laws’…

          • Myke Britt

            “The least” of you was not describing lazy ABLE BODIED PEOPLE!!

          • floral

            Those “laws” are unconstitutional and most of the money in medicaid and welfare goes to “admin” not to the “least”

          • floral

            You are not a believer and who are you to invoke that which you cannot comprehend. KNOW that Jesus also said, The poor you will have with you always, COME FOLLOW ME (in context : and spread the Good News the Word of Salvation)

          • Myke Britt

            The democrats were the slave owners and when the war freed them they still belonged to their old “masters” as SHARE CROPPERS WHO NEVER MANAGED TO PAY OFF THEIR DEBT. After one hundred years they finally received their freedom. Many took advantage of the AMERICAN DREAM and built personal wealth. SADLY, MANY FELL FOR THE DEMOCRATS LIES AND CHOSE ‘SLAVERY’ IN GOVERNMENT HOUSING, WELFARE CHECKS AND FOOD STAMPS. As of now 70% of black babies are illegitimate as opposed to 25% of whites. Blacks vote for democrats because of the promise to keep feeding them with tax payers money.. SAD BUT TRUE!

          • Rex Whitmer

            Welfare is NOT slavery! It’s often theft! Welfare is offered for persons whom cannot work! Those whom will not work are thieves, taking unrighteously jobs that were intended for the truly disabled!

          • floral

            welfare and disincentives to be responsible for yourself IS the worst form of slavery, but let’s not mince words or parse them. What dems say when they insist on welfare for blacks and affirmative action for blacks and hispanics is “you cannot succeed or survive without the largess of the white man and hand up but you will always be dependent on us”. Is that not racist and enslavement”

        • floral

          That is what “regulation” does for you. The more regulations, the more gaming and loopholes available.
          There is a LOT of doubt that work requirements will lay off public employees. Welfare types and medicaid recipients are in many cases, esp CA ILLEGALS and incapable of meaningful work, not that many public employees DO any “meaningful” work.

          • Denton Haskins

            LOL!! Good one!

          • Myke Britt

            THREE CHEERS FOR A GREAT PRESIDENT FOR DESTROYING THOSE RIDICULOUS “REGULATIONS” THAT WERE CHOKING AMERICA! Last I heard his promise to de-regulate TWO stupid laws for each new one put in place has actually 22 destroyed for every new one put in place!

          • Rex Whitmer

            ILLEGALS are NOT eligible to collect these funds and if they are then those whom are allowing it are breaking the law and should be dismissed and considered for trial. California, Washington, and Oregon are robbing the federal funds when and if they allow this use by illegal persons in the USA! Persons doing this can be and should be dismissed from their work and made to repay back to the government those funds unrighteously paid out! At this present time, no one is making the fuss that should be being made for these funds and many others that are being given to non-citizens. These politicians are actually stealing from the citizens they are supposed to be serving to make political hay!!!

          • floral

            that is dem/lib/prog for you. illegals ARE eligible for medicaid because hospitals and social workers are forbidden to ask or determine immigration status. Unfortunate but true esp in CA.

        • Myke Britt

          When my business was damaged by being unable to complete. I didn’t whine and blame my neighbor. I sold term insurance parttime and also did telemarketing at night. And worked at my store daily along with my wife and kids when they were not in school. MANY OF MY CO-WORKERS IN TELEMARKETING WERE IN WHEEL CHAIRS OR WALKED WITH A CANE AND NONE CRIED FOR THE GOVERNMENT TO FEED THEM!

        • Rex Whitmer

          If a person has the ability to work on a job, I can guarantee you that that person can find a job, whether it’s with a public program or private. It isn’t easy, but most employers will make the effort to hire, if the disabled person will work and won’t be whining all the time!

      • crosxb

        But, given your clear energy level right now, you could consider non-physical work. There are many things you could do that don’t require heaving lifting, etc. Many administrative tasks and service functions are not physical in any way. Wouldn’t it be good to contribute back to your community in ways like this?

        • floral

          Many public employees are disabled. The easiest way to become a public employee (government at all levels) is to be disabled, black or hispanic or any combination thereof.

          • Rex Whitmer

            wrong again Floral. Quit looking for ways to live without paying your own way. Most public employees cannot be hired if they are unable to perform the requirements of their work. As a person who actually was a public employee, I can tell you that most work quite dependably and don’t go looking for public assistance. Those whom are somehow disabled whom attain a job, likely work harder than those whom are NOT handicapped. Public employers do make allowances for people, but most of those work harder than the non-disabled. GET A JOB

          • floral

            I take care of myself REX and have never lived off government entitlements or collected them. You have a lot of trouble reading and comprehending and I am certain that you just proved my point that few public employees whether they “work dependably” do “meaningful work”, not if they fail to understand what I wrote as you did. I abhor welfare and medicaid and government assistance of any kind. I merely noted what I saw in CA how the system gets gamed and few people who “need” help, seek it, and that midnight was an idiot for thinking that requiring welfare and medicaid recipients get work would put public employees out of work. GET IT NOW?

          • floral

            Try replying to someone who fits your criticism. I DO NOT!

          • floral

            You obviously are responding to someone else. Please redirect your comment to someone who deserves your criticism I am NOT looking for ways to live without paying my own way. I have NEVER accepted public assistance.

        • PsykoKlown

          Given the right circumstances, many disabled people seem to function far more normally than they actually do. Even many “non disabled” people hide physical problems until pain becomes too much to keep up the façade. I’m mainly talking about TBI and the like, though. Put them in a situation where they have to process just a little too much information and they crash and burn, but let them process things at their own pace (which is rarely an option on the job), and their chances of success may go up by orders of magnitude. “Their own pace” may take minutes, days, or even longer before they have that “aha!” moment when it clicks. This also applies to writing. Let them edit until they’ve ironed it out, and they can sound far more functional than if they sent the first thing they typed, or were speaking to you. They’ve spent a long time finding ways to hide their issues. Some can hold it together for short periods when they have to, but fall apart when it comes to daily living. Many of these people suffer from physical disabilities as well because they were in an accident of some sort.

          • AmericanVoterTB619

            Thank you PsykoKlown… very well put… and exactly the point I’ve been trying to make.

        • AmericanVoterTB619

          Oh believe me .. crosxb… I have applied and I continue to apply for positions … especially since I have an Associate Degree in Business Administrations… I have applied for positions at local, state, federal, private sector, and charitable … yet still here I am praying that while I am trying to find “gainful” employment what assistance I do receive will afford me to ability to meet my very basic and quality of life needs.

          • floral

            I don’t think anybody claims you are abusing the system, just that “in general” many if not MOST medicaid and welfare recipients ARE or are dissuaded from seeking independence.

          • crosxb

            I have found, and family members also, that the effective way to find work is to target the organization/agency/business you really want to work for, and then volunteer there. You can show them your stuff at no cost to them! Since you’re receiving assistance, you have that luxury of volunteering until they recognize that they can’t live without you!

        • Fox5live

          But please also consider the fact that age and physical limitations are pretty often a drawback for employers who tend to go for younger go -getters.

          • crosxb

            Actually, older, reliable workers are usually preferred for administrative jobs and steady-paced office work – because they are NOT “go-getters” who will ditch the job at the first opportunity to move up the job ladder. Employers are desperately looking for exactly this job-hunter profile since they don’t want their expensive training to be cast aside quickly. Age and physical limitations are really an advantage for many office jobs, truly!

      • Robert Ingram

        American Voter, asshole, not one person has ever said people with proven disabilities would be required too work. Learn to read idiot!

      • harry rubeniwitz

        He was not referring to you. “PEOPLE ON WELFARE”

      • harry rubeniwitz

        clam down…

        • AmericanVoterTB619

          one thing this discussion has show me is that there is no clear cut answer/solution…. that in order for the to be a solution to America’s Issues no matter what they all… WE THE PEOPLE must stop fighting each other and work TOGETHER to resolve those issues. Using logic, and even when not in agreement being respectful of other perhaps solutions can then be found…. I will give credit to our president… .while I did not vote for him… nor for Hillary…. I am impressed by some of the things he has managed to accomplish, where others have failed.

      • Rex Whitmer

        You’re complaining to the wrong people. The parties that have allowed unlimited immigration in to the country are whom you should be criticizing. A citizen would have had liability insurance and likely wouldn’t have hit you unless he were drunk. You language is a good indication that YOU have a sensibility of being a “poor me, everybody hates me, and it’s not my fault!” attitude. While it’s not your fault you were injured, it’s likely that you support the people whom constantly cry that we should allow anyone and everyone to come into the country and even collect the funds you are being denied!

        • Denton Haskins

          Amen!!!

        • AmericanVoterTB619

          oh how wrong you are… there should be limits on immigration… get rid of the ones here illegally… deport and those breaking the law… that have been in American prison at our expense should be deported … personal I think if your were grant naturalization and then committed a felony and went to prison those should be deported as well…. but this is discussion is on the Medicare/Medicaid…. and NO I do not have a “POOR me mentality… I put myself through college… and I don’t believe everyone hates me …. and I know in part my spinal conditions was my fault because of some pretty dumb thinks I tried in my teens…. however all that does not change the facts that I am still seeking gainful employment and have yet to find said employer … I haven’t lost faith that at some point I will find Gainful employment…. On average I do 7-10 interviews per week… but there is a lot of other individuals (candidates) with just qualified as myself applying for the same position…. I can’t fault the employer for picking the individual with the least restrictions for the position. Heck … if I was in a place of authority and had two candidates that were equally qualified and the ONLY difference was one (A) has to ability to work in the physical office of the organization but the other candidate (B) had to be able to work from his/her home…. I would choose I too would choose A.

      • fliponeover

        I take it you have no insurance and you have to pay for everything that is provided to you, Is this correct?
        If this is true you do have recourse and if you have no resources, legal help is to be had for free…….. Just some infor for you to use that you no doubt did not know, And again this is free paid for by others who are lucky enough to not be in you shoes, God Bless.

        • AmericanVoterTB619

          private insurance no… medical coverage is medicare/medicaid… UHC…. and what assistance I have; I’ve made damn sure that I have a legal right to use, I am following the rules and guidelines… my whole point when I started this thread of discussion this morning… was simple put … while yes there are those individuals that knowingly “abuse” the system there are also “those of us” that DO NOT and would BE OVERJOYED if they didn’t’ have to be on it at all….I for one loved my job, working, being able to contribute to the community, as both a contributing part of the workforce and as a volunteer, would happily do it AGAIN if given the opportunity. however I am truly blessed… I could have been paralyzed thankfully I was able to regain at least in part mobility… so believe I know that there is a position out there… and at God’s will not my will, at some point… that door will be located and opened to me.

      • Myke Britt

        Read the message again. Mr. Brule never said a 100% disabled american should lose their Medic-aid. BUT SURELY YOU THINK ABLE BODIED, LAZY FOLKS SHOULD NOT BE ON THE DOLE WITHOUT WORKING.. Perhaps you should go back to school and study LOGIC and simple english.

      • PsykoKlown

        CAN’T work and WON’T works are two very different things.
        I’m in the can’t work category, the same as you are. Unlike those who have never had any intention of working; most of us on disability would go back to work if we could.

      • Miyako

        You Are A Democrat I Bet’! Using Some B/S Excuse To Allow Slugs On Permanent Medicaid. I Support The Position..You get Welfare or Medicaid..You Do Some kind Of Work for Society or You get Kicked off Of Other People Working For You. You should Also Have a Random blood Test For Drugs…..If You Have It In Your System……You Get Three Chances Then You Are Kicked Off Of YOUR Free Program. GO TRUMP’!

      • jimshaw54

        I agree with you that you should be on welfare because that was what it was set up to do — help people like you. BUT and that is a big BUT, there are many many more who are perfectly capable of working bu just don’t want to work who are taking advantage of they system, and most likely taking money that should go to people like you. There is always an end to OPM (other peoples money) and the more freeloaders that enter the system the less money there will be to help truly needy people like you. I know, because I have known people who have been on welfare when they could get a job and pay their own way, but they don’t feel like working. Don’t kid yourself that there aren’t a lot of people on Welfare who have no business being on welfare, and there are a lot of people who are paying taxes to fund welfare who could use the money themselves. .

      • 1madgrannie

        It clearly states that this will only affect able bodied persons on medicaid. Obviously you are not in that group, so it would not apply to your situation. I do know many that could and should work for their benefits, if only to answer phones at a county clinic.

        • AmericanVoterTB619

          If only I could get the county clinic to do so… I would be there in a NY minute… so far their reply has been I’m sorry we have no openings at this time. Keep a very close eye on the county, state, and federal workforce postings… and when I find position open or about to open that I have even the remotest change of qualifying for, I submit my application with resume… I refuse to accept never working again at my age… I still have a brain… and abilities that are useful… may have to accommodate physical limitations but I WILL NEVER GIVE UP.

        • cal3301

          If she can sit there and type, she’s able bodied!

      • cal3301

        You know, you’re full of BS. If you were disabled from a car accident, that’s a case for auto insurance, not our tax dollars. Your insurance would have taken over if he split or didn’t have any. It’s called under insured on your policy. That is if you had any to begin with. I personally was forced off an overpass by a tracker trailer. I took out two sections of guardrail. It was a 40 ft drop and I went a 100 ft through the air hitting a tree that leaned the car into the pillar on the way down. I was even pronounced dead at the scene until I let out a scream when they were loading me into the ambulance. I had a fractured skull, broken neck, ribs, clavicle, fractured my pelvis in 4 places, split my tailbone, severed my sacral iliac, and did to my spinal column what you would do to an accordion. My parents were told I wouldn’t live. My insurance covered it all. Oh and FYI, I had to learn to walk all over again. On another note, I missed only a year of work, because I didn’t want to be someone like you, a self made invalid. My sister, who is a nurse hurt her back really bad and had to have bones in her spine replaced as they crumbled when they went to fix the discs. She worked right after that. You are nothing but a freeloader wanting people to pity you. I DON’T!!!!! You were only hit in the back of your car and made a mountain out of a mole hill. I bet you even had a quack doctor. I know people that truly do need help and can’t get it, because of people like you. Milking the system. You really make me sick. IF YOU CAN SIT AND TYPE, YOU CAN WORK!!!!!!

      • Fox5live

        .Essentially, you are, madam. Did you work all your life to contrbute to social security that would cover all your expenses? Did you have medical insurance like you should have when you were injured? No? Then you are depending on other people who do work and their taxes to pay for you…

      • Paul

        You are a different case and are the reason we have Medicaid. Oblahcare has extended Medicaid and has made it so able bodied people can get coverage . In the meantime many have seen their insurance premiums increase as to become unaffordable so that others may get free insurance. I will continue to pay Medicaid taxes but will not freely support people that can do for themselves.

      • Rex Whitmer

        Your story might have fooled us if you had left out the smutty language.
        With that you identified yourself. You may have fooled the government people, but not me. Get out and get a job! We’re tired of supporting lazy persons such as yourself!

  • AmericanVoterTB619

    I see nothing wrong with requiring “able bodied” individual home need assistance for Medical coverage from “MEDICAID” heck if I could I would LOVE to go back to work…but for some (as in my case) he/she may have the desire and the physical ability to do so for a few hours (2-4) per day/week…. but then there is 2 big issues … that the individuals (like me face) what employee will hire me knowing that I can only work a maximum of 2 hour per day and only 3 to 4 days per week…. and secondly… because I receive SSI (Disability Benefits & Social Security) when I did try to return to work, AFTER the first $86.00 for every $2.00 I earned SSI/SOC would withhold $1.00 from my next month’s benefits (allotment)… heck it COST ME to work … I ended up owing SSI/SOC … even though I reported all my income while trying to return to work…. and in the long run I was not able to maintain the schedule nor preform the duties of the position to a high enough standard per the employer and was therefore “laid-off” they polite way of saying “FIRED”… which eventually turned into because the company has “resized” we no longer have this position available and therefore unfortunately have to lay off said employee. when the notified SSI/Soc on my behalf…. All this taken into about what happens to the thousands of us in my situation… on PUBLIC ASSISTANCE but according to the workforce not “able bodied” yet according to Medicaid “able bodied” what the heck do we do… personally … go through time of “feeling like *hit, belittled by others, being my own worse critic because I am not able to be a productive member of America’s Workforce … even though I DAMN SURE WANT TO BE!!! But, there might be a way for that to change…. IF the powers that be (Government PROGRAMS & American Employers would actually work together to develop programs that allow individual’s like me to work from home for positions like call center specialists…. I uses be do debt collections… that is something the could easily be done via a “secured” internet site or even basic data entry…. for example: year’s ago in an on the job training position I held… I would be given hand file forms for temporary/permanent disability placards and have to manual type (data entry) this information into the Social Service’s Data base…. Oh I know … some say there are organization/business that offer this already…. YA RIGHT … WHERE … because in the now 5+ years I have been seeking one… all I have found ARE SCAM ARTISTS.

  • Steve Makovec

    The Kaiser Family Foundation shows that some 60% of Medicaid recipients already work, but do NOT receive employer-sponsored healthcare — http://money.cnn.com/2018/01/10/news/economy/medicaid-work-requirement/index.html.
    — I maintain that we need Medicaid as a healthcare safety net for the lowest-income folks in our country, and I remain willing to pay for it with my taxes, as I already do for Medicaid.
    — We must be part of the solution, and that includes healthcare options that meet peoples’ needs and budgets.
    — Yes, some able-bodied Americans choose not to join the workforce, and we should help them gain the skills needed to compete, and encourage them to compete when they have the skills.
    — Just as strongly, we should support a livable Minimum Wage, more full-time entry level jobs, and employer-sponsored healthcare.
    — Too many entry jobs pay much less than a living wage. Most service jobs offer part-time hours without healthcare, and assign shifting hours. This combination is tough on employees who need to work multiple jobs, and it makes reliable childcare options very hard to find. We need to remove those obstacles to build a pathway to success.
    — Through every stage of life, EVERYONE needs some level of healthcare, including regular preventive checks and catastrophic care. Medicaid provides that for many of our neediest Americans, but without Medicaid Expansion, many adults without young children earn the lowest wages and are NOT covered by Medicaid. Sad!
    — We all lose if we just vilify the neediest Americans as “takers” who are “living off” the rest of us. That is “spin” and it does NOT help our neighbors, our family or complete strangers who are struggling to live and keep themselves healthy!

    • curmudgeon VN Veteran

      Sorry to not agree 100%, but I am retired, worked all my life, saved for my own retirement. had my money stolen by the government to pay for Socialist insecurity and medicare never accepted a dollar of someone else’s money from any kind of entitlement program and OWE nobody a thing. If I choose to contribute that’s fine, but not the governmental prerogative to redistribute to anyone without my express approval.

      • jimmy midnight

        Bet U drove on public roads ’bout every day of your working life,

        • PAID FOR BY WORKING PEOPLE !!! BUILT BY WORKING PEOPLE !!! B

        • floral

          your point? Roads are not “public welfare or medicaid”.

      • Rex Whitmer

        yep curmudgeon, me too only I was Korea. Couldn’t even get them to buy me a pair of hearing aids. They said I made too much money! Well, we both probably worked pretty hard and saved & invested. I’m pretty sure there are a lot of people smarter than I am who didn’t make too much money. Oh well!

        • curmudgeon VN Veteran

          Rex, I have never even used the V.A. and ours here is one of the really good ones. I have always felt that I could afford not to and many of our brothers need the help we were promised more than I. I have planned to be cremated and the wife and I both interned in the National cemetery here in Florida at Bushnell. I figure the country at least owes us that. Thanks for your service brother.

      • Steve Makovec

        Dear Mr. Curmudgeon,
        First, thank you for your service, if I understood your title correctly.
        — Second, I worked all my life until retirement, and I paid into the same programs; I am glad for Medicare and I plan to draw on SS benefits when I reach age 70.
        — I excelled in my career, but after my work was eliminated, while I searched for employment, I drew unemployment benefits for several months and borrowed $$. There were no guarantees, but I kept my home and made it through, and lived to retire when the next career ended after 11 years.
        — I hope we can agree that we want to create a just environment where more people have a chance at good-paying jobs, and a safety net to help families through the times when they need help.

        • floral

          unemployment is NOT welfare. The pool of money for unemployment is paid by employers so that they are motivated to NOT fire anybody unless truly incompetent or dangerous, so their rates don’t go up.
          I have, regardless of how much money I made, lived close to or below the poverty line or when I made a LOT and I did, I only increased my spending by 10% and saved the rest. The only just environment is liberty and individual responsibility and PURSUIT of happiness, not “good paying jobs”, safety net or equal outcomes, just opportunity.

        • floral

          I’m not glad for medicare-it costs more and covers less and I will not willingly ever seek “medical/drug care”. If a car or other accident and I am unconscious, I cannot stop being hospitalized, but I will not pay for part b, c or d. I’d rather pay for any dr of my choosing for when I need stitches or casting, but no other.

        • curmudgeon VN Veteran

          I have no problem with people who use it in times of need. My upset is with those who have made entitlements and using the system as a career choice. Glad you managed to scrape by.

          • Steve Makovec

            Thank you, sir.
            — Medicaid provides healthcare for the poorest, and 50% of enrollees are children in the poorest families.
            — Poor single adults without dependent children do not qualify unless their State enacted Expanded Medicaid under the ACA [18 states have not expanded Medicaid].
            — I know the costs and many details of healthcare, as I worked my last 11 years for a healthcare insurer.
            — We know that people without healthcare insurance do not receive regular health screenings because they cannot afford them. Evidence shows that health problems like chronic high blood pressure, diabetes and early cancers go undetected often until they’re life-threatening [if caught early, many of the problems can be managed at a MUCH-LOWER cost, and sometimes reversed].
            — We don’t have easy solutions to these problems, but I think it helps to discuss them. Thank you.

          • floral

            I don’t have “healthcare”, there is no such thing. There is medical ie drug sick care, but not “healthcare”. i don’t have any “medical ins” (it is not insurance, nor care). I monitor my own health through regular blood tests via Life Extension Fdtn (about a 1/4 the price and 5x more “tests”), eat healthy/organically and get regular exercise suitable to my age and genetic conditions. I have yet to find a dr (I have interviewed over 200) that can do a “health screening” accurately or diagnose any condition accurately. I use the community health screenings sometimes, because they do a fair job and are not able to prescribe drugs, so actually listen and assess. Early cancers frequently go away (everybody has cancer, just not yet taking over.) There is no “medical cure” that does not employ unnecessary and poisonous “treatments”. I’ll stick with tried and true nerbal and natural supplements, to be safe and be in control of my own body.

    • floral

      Why are they “needy”? Is it because of drug addiction, alcoholism, lack of education? Or maybe they prioritize smart phones and cable and ff and drugs and nice cars or homes they can’t pay for over responsibility and savings?
      If you want to help who YOU think are Needy, go for it, but don’t put or impose your idea of “compassion” on the rest of us, esp via unconstitutional government wasteful programs.

    • Rex Whitmer

      Steve, you and much of America have given into the socialization of America! This is where Social Security and income tax began. When Uncle Sam got first dibs on your paycheck, he got a lot of money that you couldn’t use, and thusly put a lot of what you could do on your own out of your reach! Now a days the Government decides how much of your money it needs to finance all the schemes and plans it has and you have no say at all about it. Let’s face it! Uncle Sam gets your money before you do. He gets to decide how much of it you’ll get, and worse still, he gets to decide how much he thinks YOU need! Though it’s not completely socialzed, the UlSA has become a socialized nation. You pay for many things you could pay for with a much better return than you get from Uncle Sam. Social Security Heck! They use the funds before you even see your pay check! When you get to the age where they’re supposed to start paying you your earnings, “OH, golly, we’re broke, we’ve got to collect even more so we can pay others! It’s a sham, a socialist sham! I could write a book on the subject, but there are a couple of hundred authors whom have already done so and people, like sheep just keep on allowing this to go on. Your social security funds going into a good retirement account could have brought you many times the amount you’ll actually collect!

  • Robert

    The problem is that too many people exploit the system. Yes there are a lot of people who actually need the help and deserve a hand up. But other’s go to great extents to try to cheat the system and to take advantage of other’s.

    • AmericanVoterTB619

      I agree there are some that “exploit” the system…. and it those that when it is witness it should be reported… heck… I myself have reported a few that try to fraud the system.

      • floral

        Perhaps you are unaware that welfare rolls and medicaid rolls have increased exponentially. There is a LOT of evidence that a majority on such programs are NOT citizens nor “needy”.
        You are not “lumped” by ignorance or judgmentalism.
        It is the exception that proves the existence of the RULE.

  • disqus_v5723Mqspa

    Well! How will that happen when a lot of REAL AMERICANS are deliberately shut out of our own well-trained jobs in favor of illegals?? I wish I could work! I miss my drafting!

    • Rex Whitmer

      If you’re a draftsperson, there’s a job for you somewhere! Don’t know where you’re from but there are businesses that desperately need draftsmen whom know what they are doing. I’d advise an employment agency. They’ll take some of your wages at first, but if you’re surviving now, you would survive that amount. I believe it’s usually a third of your first three months salary.

      • disqus_v5723Mqspa

        Thanks, Rex. I can try that.

  • Estell Newton

    Something has to happen. The taxpayer cannot keep funding these deadbeats. There is no reason why everyone that is ablebodied is not working or at least looking. And having children is not a reason. It’s an excuse. I worked when I had kids at home. The only people who should be getting help from the government without working are the elderly and those who can’t work. And it means absolutely can’t work. Not won’t. The illegals should be sent back to there country and come in legally or no citizenship. That requires a college education and a citizenship test not having citizenship handed to them because they’ve been here most of their lives. Legal immigrants have t o do it and so should everyone else.

    • Rex Whitmer

      There is something happening that the Federal Government hopes that it’s citizens won’t notice. Your dollars are losing their value at what has become an exponential rate. When I was young there were silver dollars, half dollars quarters and dimes in circulation that had value in their medium. There was silver in each of those coins. Your dollar bills either stated that they were redeemable in gold or silver at the nearest bank. Today these coins are made of cheap metals or combinations of metals and virtually worthless. The paper money has no redeemable value! It’s quite likely that there is NO GOLD in FT> KNOX now either! When I was a boy, I could buy a Hershey bar for a nickel, that sells for more than a dollar now a days. The money I put in a savings account paid 4% interest. Today’s savings accounts pay less than one half of a half percent interest. Now at it’s will the government can raid any savings account you might establish, and if you get lucky and make a large sale, you can’t deposit it at all for the government will steal it from you claiming criminal enterprise!

      • Estell Newton

        I remember buying a 16oz coke for 2 cents. You could get a whole cart of groceries for $25. Too many people are wanting handouts instead of working. These handouts need t o stop. For some reason these younger people, mid 40s and under, think money is an inexhaustible commodity. The colleges don’t want to teach them a career. And the local schools aren’t much better. We do have some terrific young people out there working. But more and more of them won’t keep a job if they even try to get one. I don’t know what it will take to wake these liberals up but we’re running out of time. The UN and the Pope are planning t o take us over and it will happen. There have been several warnings on the internet that our banking accounts will be seized. We are in the ends times the Bible speaks about and people just aren’t listening.

  • John Douglas

    Since the government stepped in , heath care is so bad that I’ll stick to my don’t get sick plan

  • Roy Myers

    All people that get Welfare should be drug tested, I know of some in our town of less than 6000 residents who have been caught steeling surgical tubing and from the veterinary section they steel the needles, in one month the store lost 20 feet of the hose they use for tourniquet on their arms. Didn’t say how many needles they lost. SAD!!!!

  • Chris Ehlers

    we get rid of these illegals and there will be plenty of jobs for these folks. Nothing better than bringing home a well earned paycheck.

  • Niko

    Even with the changes proposed, the States have the right to do as they see fit. I personally worked my butt into physical submission. I am a retired (disabled) NYC Union Sheetmetal Worker. In the past 6 years I have had 10 upper body surgeries. All in all I have 12 anchors in both shoulders, 21 screws ,5 titanium plates and 8 rods in my neck. 2 elbow surgeries and I am ravaged with severe arthritis. I still have to redo 3 surgeries, just from doing a basic normal daily routine, anything above and beyond that sends me into severe pain mode. But let me state right here right now: with all the problems I have, I am not allowed to volunteer or do anything – they want me to just turn into a vegetable mentally and physically, (I am on SSD) plus collecting my 2 union disability retirement pensions. I would not mind being able to volunteer my time as of this writing but that is a big and STUPID – NO NO. There is a lot of waste in these programs , Thanks to the filthy libretard pieces of scum and the morons that the fools in America put into office. Money for people with disabilities should be there for them . There are many MANY that do not deserve a single phucking dime. IE: illegals,muslimes,liars,cheats and charlatans and those that aid and abet them need to have the full force of law thrust up in them…
    Personally, I must say – This is a good thing.
    Just one man’s opinion…

  • jimshaw54

    You are wrong. There are many like myself who were Never Trumpers who still have reservations about what he will do in the long run. Certainly his tweets do not help people who had reservations about Trump feel better about him, BUT many of the Never Trumpers that I know are willing to give Trump kudos when kudos are warrented. Would that more people would stop putting all of their eggs in one basket, and then defend that basket to the bitter end even if/when their idol is wrong. II have many of our last presidents followers in mind. Now my worry is that we will get Oprah regardless of her ability to be POTUS just because she is a woman, black and famous (in whatever order).

  • Sean Rickmin

    People that REALLY NEED help fine,but,there are a lot more that are bottom feeders living off of the taxpayer,sort them out and make them pay,dearly.They are giving the people the really NEED help a bad rap.

  • Karin Callaway

    My son built houses, and commercial buildings from 1980 to 2006, with many minor work injuries. (nails in the hands, toting 300 lbs of lumber up a ladder for a roof, being hit in the head by some of his crew because they were not careful, etc, etc) Probably built around 3-8K homes for other people to live in. He started having trouble with his grip, legs, and arms going numb. After seeing doctors and having many tests that he had to pay for, they discovered that he had damage to his spine. Cervical compression fractures, and disc problems, Lumbar area same. He deteriorated from the 300 lbs to not being able to grip and hold onto a glass of milk. Applied for SS disability and our SSA was so knowledgeable that they denied him 3 times because he also had an ASE certificate for Automobile repairs from 1978, and could do work on cars. He could not grip, so how the heck could he turn a bolt, or tighten a lug nut? Also that was before computer operated autos. It took an attorney to finally get his disability, after 4 years of SSA being so aware of his problems, that they deemed it not needed. the 4 years wait was a major draw back to his getting any kind of saving medical help. He had 3 sons and was denied food stamps because he was not of a correct race, and he was under 50. If “entitlements” btw he worked from age 15, are so great why are they limited to those who only have multitudes of kids, do not work, and for some unknown reason, have not worked more than 20 hours a month in their lives. So tell me how he is not eligible, and others are given it with smiles. The feds need to look at all of the bureaucracies and see the caliber of their employees. He is now 58 years old and had deteriorated to constant pain, inability to work even around his house, to his kids helping him and me, as much as I can. Gets SS Disability, but cannot get SSI, food stamps, or any of the other perks that are doled out to others. So many things have been denied to him but now has medicare and can get medical assistance but it is much too late. Justice? Where?

  • AmericanVoterTB619

    You have a very valid point and question…. I agree in situations such as the one your describing it is B.S…. and very similar to what I went through when I ended up applying for SS disability… I don’t know why it seems that some get through without delay while others that “it seem to me” that can show a medical foundation for are denied…. the system certainly is flawed & MUST BE OVERHAULED… I’m just not completely sure that the right people are in the right positions to get the job done… although from what I am seeing I feel that perhaps my original assessment of President Trump’s over all abilities also may have been unjust ….therefore I am “TRYING” to learn more… develop and UNBIASED view of ALL the issues involved, so that in the future when time to vote, I hopefully, have a better and more qualified understanding of what is needed and when deciding on whom to actually vote for … that decision will be based on proven facts and the individuals actual abilities and a whole lot less on public opinion and surveys.

  • JSIVO

    ADD MANDATORY DRUG TESTING TO THAT. THOSE WITHOUT MEDICAL PROOF OF PRESCRIPTION FOR PAIN AND OTHER ADDICTIVE MEDICINES SHOULD BE BOUNCED

  • suesueb

    About 6 yrs ago, my brother moved to NC and finally found a factory-type job. He said many of his coworkers were constantly bragging about how good they were as scamming the welfare system. I can see how welfare is the only choice for some unfortunate people…I’m glad welfare is there for them. But those young able-bodied guys my brother told me about should not have been on welfare. Why should we taxpayers have to foot the bill for them!

  • Murphmeister

    Not so much a bed, but a hammock.

  • Paul

    Talk to the dimms about making Medicaid more than it was intended. Oblamabcare helps all except Middle Class Americans.

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