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Trump Saves 1,000 Jobs Before Taking Office

Donald Trump isn’t wasting any time. Much to the chagrin of his critics, the president-elect has already made a deal to keep Carrier Air Conditioning from moving a manufacturing plant to Mexico – thus fulfilling a campaign pledge that everyone said was just hot air. And now his spokespeople are saying that the Carrier deal is a sign of things to come.

The air conditioning company announced Tuesday that they had struck a deal with Trump and Vice President-elect Mike Pence that would keep “close to 1,000 jobs” in Indianapolis. Staffers in the Trump transition team say the deal proves that the billionaire means to keep his word to the American people, and they insist that Carrier is just the tip of the iceberg. Using similar negotiations, executive actions, and the presidential bully pulpit, Trump will stop American companies from outsourcing their production to countries like China and Mexico.

“This is the power of the presidency, this is the power of a team coming in that is so focused on our economy and helping to create and save American jobs, to protect American jobs that are here, this saves 1,000 jobs, this is huge,” said Trump spokesman Jason Miller.

In an interview with Fox News, Miller said we should stay tuned for more exciting developments.

“It’s not just here with Carrier, we’re going to see some future announcements as well, with some other companies that are already working behind the scenes,” he said. “This is fundamentally going to help our manufacturing industry and so many other industries.”

The liberal media is, naturally, going to downplay the significance of this remarkable achievement with their usual cynicism. No matter. This is the kind of feat that stands above criticism. Trump said he would do it…and he did it. And he did it before even taking office! That’s amazing, and no amount of left-wing snark can make it any less amazing.


  • Morton99

    I am happy for the (slightly less than) 1,000 employees of Carrier who will have a happy Christmas. However, I am not so wild about what amounted to a $ 65 million bribe – using taxpayer funds to make it possible. The $65 million was the savings that Carrier would have incurred by sending ALL the production to Mexico.If this is Trump’s secret negotiation template – pretty soon there won’t be much tax money left except to pay for the military and the Congressional salaries and perks. Oh – of course we could start to grow the national debt by another $ 11 trillion – which is the estimated cost of what Trump currently has in his economic renovation plan.

    • Osamao

      Only a Communist Democrat could see not taking something from someone as giving it to them. That’s why you lost. That and your belligerent condescending arrogance. Liberal Tyranny Sucks. You lost. Stop whining. You can leave if you don’t like it. Touché!
      You need to be held accountable for your cry baby DOMESTIC ENEMY that’s been attacking our country from within and abroad for 8yrs.https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1527e8c9e43f7270245f35dc74d2963e9714f4773c4f5f8d10e55fb208023898.jpg AND WHAT HE AND YOUR PARTY DID TO THIS https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6c79c79cca8a168fc15514ead3882d02ba41360509f5d112b5e43a42380f4be4.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/353798352a2016db6f9f1c6354f0dcf4d88145899014e529405c512252885267.jpg
      Obamao once said, ” If you want revenge….vote” Well, “WE” voted so GO FAHKE YOURSELVES!!

      • Morton99

        Exactly. Trump plans to steal from American taxpayers and use that money to bribe corporations. This not bringing jobs back to Americans – it is going to inflate costs and destroy our economic system. It is called interfering with the market place. Even Sarah Palin called it crony capitalism.

        • paul filing

          Morton, turn your hat around so u can get a better view of the situation. If the jobs stay in the U.S. the 1000 tax paying employees will spend money on the economy and not be subject to additional welfare costs to the tax payers. Win, win. Now Sarah Palin is an expert on the economy? Where are your Dem. strips?

          • Morton99

            Yes, I agree that the 1,000 job retentions does reduce unemployment etc benefits and then secondary businesses like cafes, supermarkets – auto shops etc. But in this example it is estimated to have cost at least $ 65+ million dollars – a direct subsidy from taxpayers. I would suggest that it does little more than procrastinate a far deeper problem.. I understand that Carrier offered displaced employees 4 years of retraining in a profession of their choice. What was not advertised is that that grant had cost limits, and did not include a salary for the retraining worker – an almost insurmountable cost to them.
            What I would like to see is a government subsidy to assist with location if necessary, and also living expenses for these families. In the Netherlands there are many redeployment programs which make ours look pathetic. They are usually joint projects between corporations and government that train workers for real jobs – not hopeful ones. That – is what a smart innovative government should be doing.

          • Osamao

            Again. Only a Communist Democrat could see not taking something from someone as giving it to them. As opposed to actually LOOTING THE COUNTRY AND TAX PAYERS and GIVING $500,000 to his pals for the Solyndra SCAM. Take your head out of your ass.

          • Morton99

            Feeling neglected are you sweetie ? Didn’t you already say that ? I doubt you ever passed your SAT.

          • Osamao

            I did and you ignored it like a typical Communist Democrat. It didn’t fit your false narrative. Angry little Bitch aren’t ya?

          • Lord_Reaper

            What 1,000 jobs? The actual number is just barely 800 jobs. These people have to be smart enough to know that spending will not be a good idea because their jobs will be eventually lost…sooner than anyone thinks!

    • John Williams

      More simple math for you, according to the Wall Street Journal, Carrier will receive 7 Million in tax breaks over 10 years, the 65 Million they would have saved by sending all production to Mexico is a moot point at this time, and would have been only a benefit to Carrier. Simple math, $7,000,000/1000 workers= $7000 per employee/120 months =$58.34 per employee per month, each of which will provide an economic benefit far in excess of that number. Even if for some reason you still think the $65 Million is relevant, that only calculates out to $541.00 a month, still an economic plus for the state and the city.

      http://www.wsj.com/articles/indiana-gives-7-million-in-tax-breaks-to-keep-carrier-jobs-1480608461

  • junkmailbin

    Wonderful. If they use Everify to hire than we will not have the jobs going to ILLEGAL ALIENS

    • Morton99

      You don’t really believe that do you ? Do you know that in some states in the USA – it is still against the law for women to wear skirts above the knees. Illegal means absolutely nothing if it is not enforced – and it will not be enforced because the biggest hirers of illegals in the USA are card carrying wealthy Republicans – particularly farmers and construction companies like Donald Trump’s.

    • Rick Simpson

      He might have saved 800 jobs although the state paid $7,000,000.00 to Carriers parent company for those jobs.
      Still 1300 jobs went to Mexico and Carrier will not be taxed when they bring their products to the US to sell to us.

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      • Jimmy Quick

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      • Bob Stewart

        The state of Indiana thought an investment in jobs (like many states do) will pay them many times more money over the years. Think of income taxes, sales taxes, property taxes, etc. Then consider zero. Trump didn’t give Carrier any money, Indiana did. Every state offers tax exemptions for business. Trump just brokered the deal. Remember the old saying, you’ve got to spend money to make money. I am really sick of a country being run for the benefit of the stock market. If people want to gamble with their money, fine. But I’m sick of a nations monetary policy aimed at the stock market. It won’t change, but I hope Trump will really look at the idle class and govern with their interests in mind also.

  • Wayne Thorson

    Obama averaged over 200,000 jobs a month added to the economy for the last 72 months. Where is his atta boy?

    • John Williams

      When you look at the way the jobless rate is calculated, this is a farce, granted they all play games with the numbers this way, but the fact that there are people who ACTUALLY believe it is where the issue lies. You also must consider the fact that the “attrition rate” accounts for between 135,000 and 150,000 per month, then when you take a look at the “labor participation rate” obama has done absolutely nothing for jobs, unless of course you count federal hires.

      • Morton99

        The percentage of public service (government employees) is between 12 – 17 percent of the labor force in every State. I agree with the attrition rate in the labor force – but when you add back in those entering the labor force – participation is actually growing as is proven by our constantly growing population.
        So I would suggest that the estimate of 200,000 new jobs per month is very likely to be close to the truth.

        • John Williams

          EVEN you may be able to do the math, using both YOUR and Thorson’s estimate of 200,000 jobs per month comes out to almost 14.5 million, we both know that is pure BS, especially when you will have to admit that the way these numbers are calculated. You are totally ignoring the FACT that the labor participation rate has not been at such a low point since the 1970s. The numbers do not jibe and that is because obama and earnst are blowing smoke up your backside, apparently you like it.

          • Wayne Thorson

            72 months ago the unemployment was calculated at 11%. It is now calculated at 4.5%. You go figure. Another far right Republican trying to fabricate negatives about Obama.

          • John Williams

            As I have said it is not the numbers, it is the fact that there are some that still believe them. You are not paying attention, it is the numbers that are fabricated by the method used to calculate them, both parties do it, obama has just made an art form of it. The term is “garbage in garbage out.”

          • Morton99

            OK so you were referring to the post before me without acknowledgment while addressing me – quite confusing but I accept the explanation. I would however,like to see your support for the allegation that 14.5 million increased labor participation over 6 years is incorrect and the result of smoke inserted in my rear end.

          • John Williams

            It was you, not I, that inserted yourself into another conversation, if you don’t know the conversation simply stay out of it, otherwise pay attention. There is no question in my mind that the 14.5 million increase labor participation over 6 years, is incorrect. The numbers are in front of you, try the math again. 72 (which is 6 years) times 200,000 is 14.4 million but you are failing to subtract the MINIMUM attrition of 135,000 times 72 (6 years again), you are going on the assumption that you are being given correct numbers, you are not, thus the smoke up your backside. The labor participation rate is running at approx a 1978 (this is from the BLS, it is there for all to see) level and has shown a steady down trend for 8 years, we have the highest level of food stamps and welfare being given out in years, if not decades, if you are receiving these benefits you are not working, you are working below your qualified experience level or you are sponging off of the system. Obama’s domestic job policy of welfare, food stamps and an increase in the minimum wage is a freaking joke, exactly what you get when you hire a “community organizer” that surrounds himself with like minded ideologues rather than someone with the expertise and brains to do the job. This man cannot not leave soon enough for me, he has been the largest mistake this country has ever made.

          • Morton99

            Labor Force Participation Rate in the United States averaged 63 percent from 1950 until 2016, reaching an all time high of 67.30 percent in January of 2000 and a record low of 58.10 percent in December of 1954.
            http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/labor-force-participation-rate

          • John Williams

            You can read, your point is? The part that we are looking at is the part where your savior has been in office, thus the very problem with the rest of the data you are accepting as fact. The rate has been on a steep down trend the whole time under obama, thus the reason for all that smoke up your backside. The rate at this time, under team obama, is comparable to the late 70s, you cannot have all the great job’s numbers and still have such a low rate.

          • Morton99

            What is wrong with you – it is not logical to reject statistics that do not support your nonsense. The statistics all derive from BLS.
            Here is another one that supports the same.
            http://www.politifact.com/virginia/statements/2016/jun/13/dave-brat/dave-brat-us-labor-participation-rate-lowest-70s/
            There is another phenomenon that is not even explained – it is that the post war baby boom began to retire about 4 years ago. It ism a huge movement out of the labor force – about 300,000 a month and will; continue for at least a decade.

          • John Williams
          • Morton99

            I did not say it was the main reason – but it is an undeniable part of the effect. And thank you for providing a somewhat contraversial theory by Dean Baker and Mark Weisbrot – but there are many other economists who would disagree.

          • John Williams

            I will agree, there are many points of view by many economists, the fact is we are not going to ever agree. Too many people take at face value what they are told with the belief that their government would never lie to them, I do not. I have a pretty good idea how the jobs numbers are calculated, as I have said, either party twists them, obama has just taken it to an art form. If you look honestly at what you are told by DC, you can arrive at no other conclusion than that they lie to you on a regular basis, if I know that they lie to me just once, I know that I cannot trust them period. They lie on a regular basis. I would remind you that the very people who you are relying on are the very people who have been telling you that there was absolutely no way that Donald Trump could ever win the primary, let alone the presidential election, it seems to me there is a credibility issue here. The liberal lap dog media was wrong, the democrat party was wrong, the clinton campaign was wrong, the talking heads were wrong and the pollsters were wrong, I am not sure I would put much faith in that side.

          • J.B.Jacobs

            Unemployment rates are garbage. They are the people who draw unemployment compensation. You can’t draw it forever. If you can no longer draw compensation, you are considered employed. The number of jobs created is another farce. They never tell you we lost more jobs than was created. The real unemployment figure are probably closer to 20% if you are actually counting the people without jobs.

          • Wayne Thorson

            No you are counting the people that are on Social Security, people going to college and married couples that have a stay at home mom. These people don’t have jobs but those pesky Republicans use them in their accounting to make Obama look bad.

          • J.B.Jacobs

            According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics we have lost 5 million manufacturing jobs since 2000. People on Social Security are not counted, people going to college are not counted, and what does a married couple with a stay at home mom have to do with the jobs?. The jobs that are counted are the people who were drawing unemployment compensation and are no longer qualified and are now counted as employed because they are no longer on the unemployed list. Also listed as employed are the people with part time seasonal jobs with no benefits that don’t pay enough to live on. They have to work 2 jobs or both husband and wife have to work just to get by month to month.We have lost so many manufacturing jobs where I live, that the local paper just published a story saying that 76% of the children living in this county are living in poverty. Don’t tell me what a good job Obama has done.

          • Wayne Thorson

            Yea and Trump is going to give the top 1% a 10% reduction in their taxes the first thing when he takes the office of president. Boy is that ever going to help the unemployed. Welfare to the filthy rich?

          • J.B.Jacobs

            Who do you think provide the most jobs in this country. The upper 1%. Why are you so jealous of people who have worked hard and become successful in this country? Is it because you haven’t? Do you think they should split with you? The banker from Japan is the richest person in the world. He is going to invest $50 billion dollars in the USA, and create 50,000 jobs. Is there something wrong with that. Carrier Air Conditioning is leaving 1100 jobs in the USA. Average salary is $30 an hour. If they did not have plenty of money, they couldn’t do that. The salary for the 1100 workers will be over $68 million a year. They will be paying State and Federal income taxes, and purchasing goods from local merchants who will be paying state and federal taxes on their earnings. The people will be paying sales taxes on the products they purchase, which will benefit the cities, counties and State. Can you tell me one thing wrong with Carrier being successful enough to do this

          • Wayne Thorson

            If there was a demand for a certain product. Those filthy rich people would be starting a factory already to produce it. That 10% welfare money isn’t going to stimulate any jobs. I know those pesky Republicans try to brainwash weak minded people into thinking this fallacy. Try to use a little bit of common sense.

          • J.B.Jacobs

            Do you not read your comments when you write them? If those filthy rich people started a factory to produce something, how would they get the work done? They would have to hire people to do it. I know this is hard for you to understand but that’s what you call creating jobs. The welfare money, you call it, is a reduction in taxes they pay. They can use it to create jobs. How much “welfare money” are you going to get when he cuts your taxes? I hope this has helped you to understand how things like this works. I’m sure it is confusing for you

          • Wayne Thorson

            Again you are not using any common sense. If there is a demand for a product they already have enough money to start producing it. They don’t need our welfare dollars to do it. The only fare way of giving our welfare dollars to the filthy rich is if they first create so many new jobs and they give them a reward if tax benefits. They are not going to use that 10% reduction to produce products until there is a demand for that product. It shouldn’t go into their bank accounts or some overseas bank account or some tax exempt bonds for example.

          • J.B.Jacobs

            They are not going to cut your welfare dollars, so why are you worried? How do you know they don’t need the 10% break to build a new product. You must not know anything about running a business. You can’t create new jobs until you get the money to pay for the jobs and produce the product you want to sell. The jobs are leaving the country not because they want to, it’s because they are being charged so much taxes and have so many regulations, they cannot compete with the foreign companies that produce the same product. I see you don’t understand anything about how business works. Maybe you can talk to some business owner and he can explain it to you.

          • Wayne Thorson

            We are talking about the top 1% that have more money than the bottom 50%. They already have enough money to start any business they want. I am not talking about the average small business owner that will not qualify for Trump’s 10% reduction in their taxes and you also. I am on Social Security and I am pretty well off. I would say I am in the middle class. When I talk about the filthy rich it means the people that already have enough money to build a factory and produce more jobs without our welfare dollars.

          • J.B.Jacobs

            I’s sorry, but just because people have the money to build a factory doesn’t mean they have piles of money to do anything they want to do. Here where I live, we have had two plants shut down, partly because of the high taxes and regulations. We lost about 700 jobs. Another plant wanted to come in and the county gave them free property taxes for 10 years as an incentive They are still operating. They are not making a lot of money right now and maybe we would have lost them by now except for the tax incentive given them by the county. The state, federal government, city, county all benefit from these jobs.

          • Wayne Thorson

            Obviously the two plants where you live weren’t owned by the top 1% who have more money than the bottom 50%. That tax incentive given to that new plant is they way to go. They produced some jobs. Trump is talking about just handing that top 1% a 10% decrease in their taxes. They should only get that if they produce enough jobs to cover that 10% they will be enjoying. Otherwise it just handing welfare to the top 1%.

          • J.B.Jacobs

            They probably wasn’t in the top 1% whatever that is, and whatever that has to do with creating jobs. Would you say Chrysler, Ford, General Motors and most of the bigger banks Goldman Sachs,J.P. Morgan, Wells Fargo Citigroup, & Bank of America are in the top 1%. I remember in 2009 when the Federal Government bailed out GM and Crysler and most of the major banks to keep them from going bankrupt. 965 businesses in all. They guaranteed loans for them to keep them from going out of business, $621 Billion in guarantees I don’t care how big the company is it has to make money to stay in business. Most of theauto manufacturing companies were not included and have gone out of business. That’s why we only have about 3 companies making American cars. The bailout created an additional 340,000 jobs for GM and Chrysler. Reducing taxes to these companys could help keep the jobs we have now. It is not welfare.I don’t know where you got the idea it is.

          • Wayne Thorson

            It is welfare money. If it didn’t go to the most fortunate it could go to the less fortunate that could use that money to go out and spend it to stimulate the economy and produce more jobs. That’s what creates supply and demand. When the filthy rich see there is a demand for a product they will build those factories to produce it. They already have the money to do it.

          • J.B.Jacobs

            Oh, I see your point now. You think that they are giving your welfare money to someone who doesn’t need it. If they give it to you , you will spend it and stimulate the economy. That would really generate a lot of good paying jobs. Then the more people on welfare we have will stimulate the economy and create more jobs. It’s thinking like that that has put this country $20 Trillion in debt and increasing $2.4 billion each day. The Obama administration has doubled the debt since he has been in office. If we don’t stop it, this country will be bankrupt and there will be no money for the military, or money for welfare either.

          • Wayne Thorson

            You brought up the military. We spend more on defense that the next 13 countries under us put together. Trump says he is going to raise military spending by 25%. Is this what you call cutting down on big government? By the way I am on Social Security and I would guarantee that I am worth a lot more than you I don’t get any welfare.

          • J.B.Jacobs

            The military is not the government. Right now, the Air Force planes are so obsolete they are having to take parts off of junk planes to keep them flying. It’s not how much we spend, it’s how we spend it. There is so much waste in government spending that we could get the same results at half the cost. Trump has never said he was going to raise military spending 25%. He said he was going to build up the military because it is so depleted. You say you would guarantee you are worth more than me. You have no idea how much I’m worth, but you would guarantee it anyway. I can understand your way of thinking now. You just say it and that makes it true. There are three countries that outspend us when you figure it on the GDP. Saudi Arabia, Singapore, and Israel. You need to quit listening to Hillary and Obama. They lost and the American people won. Get over it.

          • Wayne Thorson

            You keep insinuating that I am on welfare all the time. I just want you know I am not. I do want my tax dollars to go to the people that need it. Not to the people that don’t need it. I wish we all could designate where our tax dollars go but we can’t. With Trump they are going to the top !% who all ready have more money than the bottom 50%. If you think this is okay than we are done talking. I refuse to talk to someone who is mentally handicapped.

          • J.B.Jacobs

            I wouldn’t talk about someone being mentally handicapped, when you don’t understand that most of the good paying jobs in this country are created by people who have money. The more money they have the more jobs they create.. I heard that garbage about Trump wanting to reduce taxes to the top 1%. Trump wants to reduce taxes to everybody. Since you don’t pay taxes, you think he shouldn’t help anyone else. That’s how things have been for the last 8 years at least. That’s one of the reasons this country is in the shape it’s in. We are the highest taxed country in the world and it keeps going up. We are the country with the highest debt in the world, with $20 Trillion and increasing $2.4 billion each day. Your ideas sound like you think the wealthy should split up their money so everybody has the same. That’s doesn’t sound like a diplomatic country to me. The people who are the smartest and work the hardest in this country are the wealthiest, and that’s the way it is supposed to be. You don’t need to reply to this comment. It’s obvious you have no ideas of your own. You are repeating what you have heard from Hillary and the Democrats.

          • Wayne Thorson

            Nope, I have been preaching my spiel for years. Ever since Bill Clinton brought this country back out of the red from the Bush administration. By the way I have checks showing I gave the government over $14000.00 this year on my state and federal taxes. I am not a rookie at paying taxes. I would just like them to go to the less fortunate and not the most fortunate. If you want to give your tax dollars to the most fortunate so they can put in tax free bonds or what ever that is your choice. It sure isn’t mine.

          • J.B.Jacobs

            You expect me to believe you are on Social Security and paid $14,000 in income taxes? Surely you can beat that.$50,000 would sound better. Might as well go whole hog. You need to stop being jealous of someone who has been successful in his life.

          • Wayne Thorson

            I am cashing in 3 IRA’s that I never paid taxes on earlier. They are really nailing me now. I also sold a lumberyard full of antiques that I had acquired. What’s that $50.000 your talking about all about? It upsets me that my taxes are going to go to the filthy rich.

          • J.B.Jacobs

            I heard Hillary say Trump wanted to give tax breaks to the top 1%. That’s where you heard I guess. I never heard anyone else say it. Trump wants to lower everybody’s taxes. If you want the truth, listen to what Trump says. If you want made up garbage, listen to Hillary. Trump wants to lower your taxes as well as everybody else’s. Your taxes are going to the same place it always went. They are not talking about tax refunds, they are talking about reducing what you have to pay.

          • Wayne Thorson

            You never heard Hillary say such a thing. This is a Republican agenda. I have been arguing with Republicans for years that believe giving tax breaks and benefits to the super rich because they produce jobs. I watched Trump on the news say what he was going to do in his first 100 days. He is now reneging on most of his spiels he made before the election. He claims that is just playing the game when you are running. It’s a different game now. So I would guess you can feel played.

          • J.B.Jacobs

            When you wake up. if you ever do, you’ll realize what is going on and how wrong you have been. Goo luck.

          • Wayne Thorson

            Is that the best comment you could come up with. I hope you feel played by now and I am not the one that’s doing it.

          • J.B.Jacobs

            No, I could have come up with another comment, but I’ll wait until you get over the fact your lying, corrupt Hillary lost the election, whenever that is.

          • Wayne Thorson

            Thanks for reminding me. I did not vote for Trump. I voted for Hillary. I will be proud of my vote within a year and a half. You my friend will be ashamed to admit who you voted for.

          • J.B.Jacobs

            We’ll see. If you are interested in leaving the country, Al Sharpton will probably be happy to have your company.

          • Wayne Thorson

            Al and I are going to stick around so that we can say “SEE I TOLD YOU SO” . We are going to have fun in about a year and a half. Let me be the first to say, see I told you so.

          • Morton99

            You just might like to check your strange statistics with the Bureau of Labor Statistics internet page – a non partisan government agency NOT under the control of Obama, but of the Congress.
            http://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/empsit.pdf
            Additionally, 12 x 200,000 equals 2.4 million not 14.5 million. Hyperbole on that scale makes you look very foolish.

          • John Williams

            If you even bothered to read the posts, the figure that was posted was 72 months, says the foolish one, so I guess you are the one not paying attention. But I give you credit you can do basic math, 12 x 2 does equal 24.

          • Wayne Thorson

            Figures don’t lie. But liars figure. Unemployment is down to $4.5%. Stop watching Fox News. They fabricate everything to make the Democrats look bad. And I wouldn’t keep repeating it if I were you.

      • Hgeyer

        Pure BULLSHIT! This story doesn’t mention the 1300 jobs that Carrier is STILL sending to Mexico! So actually it’s a net LOSS of jobs! Nor does it mention the millions of TAXPAYER dollars in corporate welfare Trump is paying them to keep less than half of their jobs here. And you are stupid enough to believe the Obama economy isn’t creating jobs! You must be one of the fools that vote for Trump the Chump!

        • John Williams

          No it does not and I never said it did, what is there is the fact that there are close to 1000 that did NOT go, you may not count that as a good thing but I do. As far as the “corporate welfare” you are whining about, I don’t disagree but governors do it all the time, so this is nothing new.

          • Hgeyer

            Nothing new so it’s okay?… You think those governors don’t get a healthy “campaign donation” or future job in return for those tax dollars?…

          • John Williams

            Did I not say that I did not disagree with you, what do you want me to say? I may not like how it was done, but you seem to forget that 1000 people, most with families, will not lose their jobs. So back to you; so it’s OK for 2300 jobs to leave, it is OK to lose, not only the tax revenue the employees and the corporation generate, but the ripple effect to the economy in that area driven by the spending of these employees and their families, the effect is much greater than 1000 employees, This is not a small employer.

    • Alan Correa

      in all his extravagant vacation trips around the world discised as business trips

      • Wayne Thorson

        Wasn’t enough.

    • Jimmy Quick

      Obama never delivered even one single stinking job to this country.

      Do you know that GM is now foreign owned (China)?

      Do you know that Chrysler/Dodge is now foreign owned (Italy)?

      Do you know that under Obama Ford moved the majority of their production out of the county?

      Do you know that all the jobs Obama claims he brought, which never equaled even 100.000 per month, were nothing more than displaced x-employees from good paying jobs, from companies that left the country, finding work at McDonalds while living off of food stamps?

      Do you still pee in your hat and call it holy water?

      What is wrong with you?

      • Wayne Thorson

        Nothing wrong with me. I know figures don’t lie but liars figure. Obama inherited a 11% figure unemployment when he took office and now it is 4.5%. This country was losing 850,000 jobs a month under Bush. I know you think your in your glory now but you just wait a year. The Republicans are in charge now and Trump says in his first 100 days he is going to reduce the top 1% tax rate by 10%. Now I know that doesn’t include you. How is this going to stimulate the economy in any way by handing welfare to the filthy rich. You can talk about my lack of intellect all you want. I can say I sure didn’t vote for Trump.

        • Jimmy Quick

          Just get out of the way old man, cause this economy is going into stampede mode.

          • Wayne Thorson

            It’s obvious that you don’t know how to deal with the facts. Just remember how good you have it now. Because things are going into the tank.

          • Jimmy Quick

            Ha, ha, ha, ha , ha ….

          • Wayne Thorson

            If it wasn’t such a serious problem. I would mention that I would get the last laugh. Trump has said that his first request is to give the top 1% a 10% reduction in their taxes. Isn’t that going to be a hoot?

          • Jimmy Quick

            Look dunce, I know I’m wasting my time on you but “Trickle-Up-Poverty” has worked very, very well at destroying everything Obama and his ilk touched.

            You are one of the many useful idiots that the left can count on to fu*k us all. You do well under demoncrat rule because you have never been a self sufficient individual.

            You have a serf mentality and will die like a “house-nigger,” praising “Masa” with your last dying breath.

            Trump voters are individuals who will not be ruled. We are the real Americans.

            You are just an imposter who is looking for a free lunch off of the backs of the people who built this country, all the while running us down with your ill-intended spew.

            The 1% er’s are not some blue-blood club your are born into and it’s harder to stay there than it is to get there. The membership is constantly changing.

            1% er’s represent the most successful among us and in my opinion should pay no taxes at all, because everything they own/control is at risk everyday.

            Our nation is in a world wide competition and we don’t need people like you constantly telling us that we should cut the legs off of our best and brightest so that losers like you can “super-size” that free lunch.

            I’l leave you with this thought. “the high tide raises all vessels,” and I’m watching for the tsunami tide that Trump, just like Reagan, is gonna have coming in.

          • Wayne Thorson

            Your watching for the tsunami tide that Trump is going to bring in. I said it before there are people that would vote for a pig if you put a Republican sign in front of it. There are people with weak minds that fell for his theatrics. But you my friend are what I would call someone who lives in a dream world.

          • Jimmy Quick

            You’re too stupid to talk with anymore. Goodbye.

          • Wayne Thorson

            Just remember your the one who voted for Trump. I voted for Hillary.

  • NC91

    even Sarah Palin thought the Carrier deal was dumb.

  • Lord_Reaper

    800 jobs for short term. Those jobs will also be leaving much sooner than people think. He is not a master negotiator. It was done as a con to make it look like he is actually going to do something good. Who do you actually think will be paying for this? YOU WILL! Just another way to give corporations the wealth they want. Their is nothing in stone saying these jobs won’t eventually be lost. THEY WILL!

  • Alleged Comment

    IMAGINE that?

    EVEN BEFORE he take office he is already making America GREAT AGAIN. And he is not even a politician or a lawyer who over the past 100 years we just about had every gawdamn phony politician as one.

    NO MORE LIARS LAWYERS no more phony professional politicians. WE NEED REAL people up there that take the job seriously and get it done. No ifs, ands, or butts or hee-haws like the stupid unfit sodomite negro up there.

    And a nutta thing you lieberals – STOP MAKING FUN OF NEGROES! You know why you put the sodomite obama in. To make fun of Negroes!!

    The phonies up there don’t take it seriously so they can stay in power for a long time. So it’s all about them, NOT YOU!! Exactly OPPOSITE of what the Constitution says!!

  • COMMUNISTS UPSET BY HUD APPOINMENT

    Carson and Trump were buddies from the beginning. At one of the media influenced debates as they were calling out the contestants. They deliberately skipped calling Carson to humiliate him. The cameras showed him waiting in the wings looking lost. Trump came out saw Carson standing there and asked why were you not called? Carson shrugged. Trump said you go before me. Then the crooked media had to announce him. The message for today is get out of the communist party of death to America. Viva El Trumpo. Viva Ben Carson.

    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/spiritofamericapartybook/2016/12/03/1100-people-get-a-christmas-present-santa-trump-is-coming-to-town.

    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/spiritofamericapartybook/2016/12/05/christ-mass-tune-up

  • Junior1950

    So, Herr Obama, you said that it would not be possible to stop Carrier from moving jobs to Mexico, and even asked what kind of Magic Wand Mr. Trump possessed to keep those jobs in the USA!! Tell me now, how does it feel to have EGG on your face, and I’d like to know how that CROW you had to eat tasted?? President Elect Donald J. Trump has not even been sworn in yet as our next President, and already he’s done MORE to save and create new jobs in the USA, and he’s done MORE to improve the relationship between the USA and foreign governments in the few short weeks since he’s been elected than you, Herr Obama, have done in the last eight years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    President Donald J. Trump—MAKING AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Bob Stewart

    Mexico now loses 1,100 jobs. Isn’t that a down payment on the wall?

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