• Lizard

    They can kiss my azzz

  • mldld

    Wait till we get multiple attacks from our friendly terrorists and a few more decapitations and they will forget about taking our gun s…….. they will want them too to defend themselves, the cops will not be there………

    • OWEN

      They want to do away with the 2nd amendment, destroy our economy , minimize our defense forces, which they have done. the democrat liberals an republican liberals are doing this now so they can also take away our right to bear arms, —they=== are the one world govnt, they have to get rid of our constitution an bill of rights, before they control we the people, most of their laws are unconstitutional an are therefore illegal, resist these satanic bstds.

  • steve_golf

    Another good reason NOT to have a facebook account. It’s stupid anyways.

    • 4Bill_O_Rights

      One of many good reasons to avoid facebook. One of many.

    • Divineconnection7

      I want to learn how to make my own gun, and ammo, then you do not need to register your gun.

      • Kivaari

        Under federal law it is OK to make your own guns. They must meet existing laws as to function, rifling and barrel length. You can not make machine guns, short barreled rifles and shotguns, unless you file an ATF Form 1 prior to making it. It now takes a year for the NFA paperwork to get approved and is still $200 FET.

        • Divineconnection7

          There is no need for me to turn in myself.

          • Joe_USA

            I hear you Divine.

          • Kivaari

            What happens, and I’ve seen it happen, is a buddy gets to see your gun, and calls ATF. If you build a gun that meets the law, there is no self-reporting needed. I’ve seen quite a few homemade guns over the years, that were very well executed. Ten percent of the guns seized in Australia are home made. Many of those are sub machine guns. As long as there is ammo, people will build guns to shoot it.

      • jeffrey melton

        Devine, contact Ares Armory or google 80% receivers for a list of manufacturers who sell ready to finish machine parts to make firearms, usually with just a drill.

        • Divineconnection7

          Thank you.

    • denim

      I have a FB account. It’s specifically for those sites which use FB for sign in credentials. The account doesn’t have my name, location, or anything else. It’s all pulled out of the air. And, if someone asked me for my account info, I don’t know it. I generate passwords randomly and store them on my computer. Copy/Paste from then on. I never type them again.

      • jim marcum

        denim that is why I joined FB it was to have access to other accounts such as games for my grand daughter. I do like some of the sales spots and auctions. my problem with FB is try to cancel that account. I canceled mine a long time ago and I can still see it. It was never erased like I tried to do. Some legislation is going to have to be hatched and these people reeled in to think once they have you they have you.

        • denim

          There’s a way to actually delete a FB account. It’s not obvious. Do a Google search for the instructions, if you still want that.

          • jim marcum

            thanks denim I will. you know if they were actually on the level it would just take the click of a PC key to erase your account and cancel it. but it’s plain to see they are not. but thanks again to you.

    • jim marcum

      cancel your accout? I bet you can log back onto it months later. I cancelled mine a long time ago and yes, it’s still there.

    • I enjoy living in the 1970s too. the music was better as well.

    • Michael Dennewitz

      I have news for these assholes in DC. I have three mighty weapons, and since this fine government is now censoring everyone on Facesnook, I deleted my account!!! (And I didn’t have to trade anything). LOL

  • Blanche

    One of the worst things a person can do is to have a face book page Unless you take extraordinary steps to lock it down & the wrong friend of a friend is on there it can will preclude the acct owner from getting a job with certain government agencies. It is high risk at best. If you post stupid childish antics from high school that affects your job profile. Professionals or those who aspire to be a professional linked in is better. Schools, law enforcement, gov’t agencies & job recruiters troll face book. Very invasive. On the flip side, if it catches the bad guys & the potential terrorist all the more power to the CIA, FBI etc.

  • 2001CPT35E

    Part of the problem is that people believe they need a permit to carry a weapon. You don’t need a permit for something already guaranteed as a Constitutional Right! That would be like saying I need a permit to practice free speech or free expression or freedom of religion or freedom from unlawful search and seizure. So, once again – the police departments are wrong in trying to say that you must have a permit for something that has already been guaranteed to you by the Constitution!

    • johnh

      If you get caught carring with out the permit, (although it is your right), you had better have very deep pockets to keep your self out of jail.

      • 2001CPT35E

        Certainly not arguing that point John. Just saying that American citizens need to ban together and let our elected and appointed officials know that what the Constitution actually says, and that their violation of the Constitution is actually a violation of the law, which means they should be arrested and charged with Constitutional Rights violations. That’s not a gun issue, that’s an American Civil Liberties issue.

        Elected and appointed officials take an oath to uphold the Constitution of the United States, because it is the foundation of the laws that govern our land. Any failure to uphold the Constitution is considered dereliction of duty. Any willful disregard of the Constitution and an attempt to circumvent it and replace it with your own laws or policies is not only a violation of the law and punishable as a crime, but is also treasonous – and treason according to the law has its own set of punishments.

        Where does it end? Today’s they want us to produce a permit or piece of paper for something that is already guaranteed as a Constitutional Right under the Second Amendment. Tomorrow, we might need a permit or some special type of paper to exercise all of our other rights guaranteed by the Constitution.

        Also, is it fair for states or cities to profit from something that is already a guaranteed Constitutional Right… meaning should states be allowed to charge a fee for weapons permits in the first place? If the Constitution already gives you the right to own and carry a weapon, then why should I pay a state or county or city a fee for something I am guaranteed by federal law? I guess those with more money could simply buy more protection by guaranteeing their freedom for a Right to Privacy and from Search & Seizure, or that those with more money can simply have a greater Freedom of Expression than the rest of us because they can afford to buy more permits.

        I’m just saying it’s a slippery slope and where does it stop. We are either a nation whose foundation and rule of law is based on the U.S. Constitution – we’re not. Until the American people decide otherwise, cities like D.C., New York, Chicago and states like New Jersey, New York and several others don’t get to just toss aside the U.S. Constitution and govern under the “D.C. Constitution” or “New York Constitution”! States can pass their own laws, but they cannot impede or trample on the Constitution and the rights guaranteed by it. Any law enacted that does so, is by nature invalid to begin with and those who chose to enforce it are breaking the law and any court not ruling in favor of the Constitution is in violation of the law. Separately, cities and counties cannot pass their own laws – only states and the federal government can pass laws.

        While we are self governing states, we are unified by the Constitution. Remove that, then we are only 50 separate nations and territories – no longer linked by the Constitution that unites us as a nation. So, a citizen from Texas should be able to travel to New Jersey knowing that at least his or her Constitutional Rights are protected and guaranteed in every state, rather than have to worry which Constitutional Rights are guaranteed in certain states and cities and which ones are not.

        Lastly, I would argue that any person arrested because they did not have a permit to carry a weapon should have their conviction overturned and their records expunged and and fully cleared, even out of the NCIC system – because they are essentially political prisoners, arrested on a charge that was actually a violation of the civil rights – and the arresting officers should be charged with a crime for violating the person’s civil rights and the department for which the officers or agents worked for should be charged with infringing on the U.S. Constitution. Any judge that did not overturn the conviction should be charged with obstruction and dereliction of duty for failing to uphold the law of the land… the Constitution of the United States – by which they too swore an oath to uphold.

        • marla1

          Term limits to rid w—e house of the OLS political leeches and sewer rats who have been ruling we the people way too long!! Some of them truly need to be removed one way or another!!

          • marla1

            OLS==OLD!

          • 4Bill_O_Rights

            yes, I agree. You might want to checkout http://www.ConventionOfStates.com

          • A concon would be a very evil and dangerous thing. From my understanding they want to invite americommies to participate. What do you think that would mean? Look up the New American. They’ve done several articles on this.

            Don’t understand? Go to freekentuckydotcom

          • 4Bill_O_Rights

            Clearly we ‘understand’ things differently.

            Article V of the U.S. Constitution provides two methods to propose constitutional amendments—one controlled by Congress and one
            controlled by the States legislatures. In recent years, there has been a significant renewal of interest in the state-based method for proposing amendments to the Constitution. This new found interest in Article V arises largely from the belief that Congress will never propose amendments that impose meaningful restrictions on federal power.

            (COS) seeks broad limitations on federal power—specifically, “imposing fiscal restraints on the federal government, limiting the power and jurisdiction of
            the federal government, and imposing term limits on federal officials.”

            The COS Project is working to pass applications with identical operative language in 34 states. This ensures that no issues of aggregation can arise.

            Every Article V application from a state legislature must identify its purpose. There have been nearly 500 applications in the history of the Republic, and yet there has never been an Article V Convention because two-thirds of the states have never agreed on the subject matter.

            What do you mean by “they want to invite americommies to participate”? Who is “they”?

            What do I think that would mean? If your referring to the idea that some delegate(s) might bring up off topic ideas that would mean those ideas would not be ratified by three/fourth of the States. by doing just a little research of your own you will find the a Convention of States is neither evil nor dangerous however the current path we are on is.

            Check out the responses to the opposition area for information regarding actual court cases and history of the actual process.

            http://www.conventionofstates.com/responses_to_convention_of_states_opposition

          • If they invite the americaommies or allow any number of them to attend it’s over.

            If they do anything the americommies refuse to tolerate it’s civil war.

            I’ll agree to it if there’s a militia encampment outside the front door and the moment they question the Bill of Rights, which some will do if they can, there are arrests, treason trials and executions.

            In the end there will only be one way to ‘fix’ this mess if it can be fixed, to do what will be required:

            http://www.freekentucky.com/what-will-be-required/

          • 4Bill_O_Rights

            “It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.” – Mark Twain

          • So it really is a faker huh? Or just a pathetic coward?

          • 4Bill_O_Rights

            I learned to “never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.” – Mark Twain

          • So which, faker or coward?

          • I’m sure you agree to the amendment I’d propose.

            The right of the people to overthrow or prevent tyrannical or authoritarian government by force of individually owned arms, purchased or manufactured without government permission or taxes levied or paid, equal to or superior to those commonly carried by soldiers, marines, sailors or militia members of any fighting force in the world shall not be brought into question. The right of the people to protect themselves from criminals in government, or any institution that may seek authority over them or from any common street criminal shall not be brought into question. Those elected, hired or appointed public servants who do question this proclamation and/or the people’s natural, most basic right that all our other rights are based upon, of self defense shall be arrested, tried for treason and executed.

            Don’t understand? Start here: http://www.freekentucky.com/the-must-readwatch-page/

          • 4Bill_O_Rights

            I think we would find that we are generally in agreement on most issues.

            “The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government, lest it come to dominate our lives and interests.”
            – Patrick Henry

            “Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn’t pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children’s children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.”
            – Ronald Reagan

            The 2nd Amendment is not the right to shoot at deer it’s the right to shoot at tyrants.

            Pro Choice: Revolver or Pistol.

            Cogito, ergo sum armatus. Molon labe.

          • Glenn Jacobs

            A Constitutional Convention by the name of a Convention of the States or a Conference of States or any other name would very likely be the end of America.

            Just as our Beloved Leaders have ratified the nominations of really terrible “czars,” bureaucrats, judges and commissioners, they would get the same sort of evil people onto any Constitutional Convention. Then they would have their vile writings ratified by similarly packed State Conventions. In a matter of days, the Constitution could be reduced to a mere footnote in history books.

            Imagine the very worst politicians having a free hand to re-write the Constitution and then to ratify their changes.

          • Imagine an extensive and thorough “Liberal”(commie) trash season whereby we eradicate enough of our blood domestic enemies to restore Liberty here. It could be done.

        • don

          banding together is what the NRA and numerous firearms owners groups around the nation are about. the NRA is 4 million strong…if you are a firearms owner, you should belong to the NRA. they have helped to preserve your second amendment rights on many occasions and through many court actions.

          • Kivaari

            The NRA was founded with the idea of arming the newly freed slaves. Gun control has always been a civil rights question. The NRA now has 5 million members. It is the first major civil rights group in America.
            Anti-gunners hate our freedoms. They act like the slave states.

          • patriot2

            that’s what the anti-gunners(democrats) want to bring back,slave states with us as slaves.

          • The No Rights that aren’t Allowed group was founded by Yankee generals who wanted their future conscripts to be able to shoot better.

            One must learn one thing to understand the mess we are in: They consider us to be livestock.

            Don’t understand? Go to freekentuckydotcom

          • The No Rights that aren’t Allowed group is part of the problem. They consistently give good ratings to bad candidates. It’s all about the money and the game. Better to go with Gun Owners of America, the ‘no compromise’ gun rights lobby.

            Don’t understand? Go to freekentuckydotcom

      • don

        unfortunately, you are correct…the second amendment right to “Bear arms” has become a ‘licensed’ right.

      • supergun

        The politicians should be put in jail for making such illegal gun laws.

    • Michael Dennewitz

      What the hell is next? Are we going to have to expose even our sex lives just to buy gas? WTF? THIS country is not being run by Stalin or Hitler!!!

      • 2001CPT35E

        Exactly Michael. Where does it stop? If we are no longer a nation being governed by the Constitution, then are we essentially still a nation at all? Are we merely serving the kings of the day? Is it fair to maintain civil obedience to a ruler who makes the rules up as they go along while disregarding the Constitution? I ask these questions in a scholarly manner because I believe some appointed and elected officials in our society are ruling based on their personal opinions and feelings about particular topics, as opposed to applying – supporting – defending the framework in which our nation’s laws are based… the U.S. Constitution.

        • Ian MacLeod

          “Where does it stop?”

          It stops when 98% of the population of first the U.S., then the rest of the world, are DEAD – or it stops when the “Cabal,” the “elites” or whatever you choose to call them are themselves killed or captured and incarcerated, and everything they’ve stolen from us and the rest of the world has been taken back and used for the benefit of We the People and the other victims of this hidden group of super-wealthy sociopaths. As far as I can figure out, they have access to ancient technology that they saved from a holocaust around 11,000 years ago. It appears to have been an attempt by them and their alien sponsors (and perhaps creators) to take over the world then. They consider themselves to be our superiors in all ways, but it’s mostly because they have no conscience, no empathy, no emotional connection with the rest of humanity whatsoever. We’re animals to them. They’ve decided, apparently , that we’re far too numerous, and it’s their repeatedly stated intent to destroy 90% of us, and then to genetically alter the remainder into “perfect slaves.” All of the “crimes” and destruction they blame us for are the very things THEY STARTED and grew rich FROM, of course, and now they have us to blame and punish by extinction.

          I object.

          The Corporations that comprise Washington D.C., the I.R.S. and the rest of the fake “government” IN D.C. – it’s ALL A LIE, and all it does is part of a MASSIVE scam designed to destroy us. What ANGERS ME more than anything is that apparently WE have been dumbed down, massivley poisoned and kept in the primitive group when we could have been living long, healthy, productive lives centered around our own interests and talents instead of around mere survival for too many of us. How did WE end up with the short end of the stick? We shouldn’t have been relegated to this one world, and to make sure their goals are completed the “elites” have poisoned us from the womb onward! Our schools are intended to make it HARD for us to learn; our jobs, especially any that involve physical labor, are designed to injure us and leave us poor and scrambling merely to stay alive. We should have been taught from earliest childhood to use ALL of our gifts, from perfect memories to instinctive logic, and perhaps – no, PROBABLY – including mental gifts from astral travel to clarivoyance and who knows what else? Instead we’re barely beyond the Middle Ages as far as technology goes. We stumble along from moment to moment trying to get by as they sabotage more and more.

          In order for them to support all of the projects they do, like the D.U.M.B.s that are to shelter them while we perish in FEMA Camps, or alone with no resources left for us. There’s probably interplanetary transportation that takes days instead of years to reach another world in our own star system, and on and on. We’ve been MASSIVELY short-changed, and now they intend to exterminate the majority of us because… Well, I really don’t KNOW why, Because we’re their “inferiors”? Because they want a massive Luciferian sacrifice to pay for a massive prayer request, like immortality for themselves? Almost anything is possible. The “elites” are interbred so badly they’re ALL insane to one degree or another just from that; then they are tortured as children to MAKE THEM sociopaths. The success of their propaganda over the centuries, and maybe for even longer than that, is clear in how many of us absolutely REFUSE to believe the truth even though it stares us in the face from countless directions every moment of every day. It’s starting to look to me like the best we’ll be able to do is die fighting. Maybe we’ll be able to remove enough of them and their tools in government and the corporations that another generation after us might, if they are left with the truth and as much of the technology as we can gather, be able to rebuild more quickly than the millennia it took this last time. Even then we’d be fighting our own dumbed-down, mind-controlled military who will be fighting for their own extinction, and the same goes for NATO, the U.N., the “Intel” agencies (who believe they’ll be taken along when the “elites” build their own personal paradise – they WON’T though. The “elites” are afraid of such people even when they have to use them. When they are no longer needed they’ll quickly be destroyed). Whatever happens, MILLIONS at LEAST are going to die when it all falls apart. I sincerely hope there’s an authority SOMEWHERE that will, if not make them PAY for that, will at least remove them as the disease they are so that no others have to suffer through the deprivation we have been forced to try to survive. Even the relatively wealthy are still the equivalent of primitive tribesmen who used giant rocks as money – our own “wealthy” laugh at them, never realizing they’re little different.

      • jacknthebeanstalk

        Our government is run by a bunch of Stalin and Hitler wannabes. Vote them out in November. It may be our last chance before the SHTF.

        • Ian MacLeod

          What makes you think we’ll be ALLOWED to vote them out?? The machines are rigged, the counts are rigged, soldier’s vote haven’t been in – how long? FIGURE IT OUT- DAMMIT! We have NO SAY in anything important this “government” does, and we WON’T until we take it all back and reinstate the Constitution, and until we create SOME kind of enforcement agency that has some TEETH in it!

      • CrazyAuntJane

        But maybe by their clones!

      • Sandy

        It’s not? You could have fooled me.

      • patriot2

        correct.this country is being run by stalin & hitlers evil bastard son,obola.

    • Frank Brady

      The Right to keep or own a firearm and the Right to bear or carry a firearm is not so much guaranteed by the Constitution, rather it is a Natural Right, coming from a Higher Power than man, and the Bill of Rights and the Constitution seek to secure and protect those Natural and Inalienable Rights. We were born with those Rights and upon entering into this agreement, we the people granted, this republic certain limited powers, none of which include restricting or prohibiting the keeping or bearing of Firearms;in fact the Bill of Rights restates this issue clearly so as to have no misunderstanding;however, some still find this issue hard to accept or understand. The Constitution gave me nothing, the Bill of Rights gave me nothing, my creator gave me Life, Liberty and a World in which I might seek Happyness. The government, I live within, as a citizen, has at its core, a single function, and that is to secure and protect those Natural, Inalienable Rights so that we the people do not have to worry that another may try to deprive us of them…
      “And to secure these Rights Governments are instituted amoungest men”

    • Fedup

      The article is not clear enough. The permit is for a CONCEALED weapons permit. It’s not a permit to OWN a gun.

      • 2001CPT35E

        Very true. I cannot argue that point. However, some cops or law enforcement agencies do not see or know the difference between a Concealed Carry Permit or a Permit to Own… they think the terms mean the same thing.

        • Fedup

          I think they KNOW the difference but because there are those that are corrupt and think they are above the law, they choose to ignore the difference. Also, seizure laws give them the ability to confiscate guns if they “believe” that the guns have been or will be used in the commission of a crime. There is a federal case in Humboldt County Nevada where a guy was driving through the state with $50,000 in cash. The deputy seized the cash because the law said he could. Had he had any guns, they would have been taken also. He got his money back but the case is still in federal court today. Alot of people also don’t understand that you cannot hide a gun unless you have a permit. That is where a lot of the confusion lies. Too many people will put a gun underneath their seat when traveling then wonder why they get in trouble when it is found. It’s a matter of educating the public in general. People fear what they don’t understand and because they don’t understand the laws (and common sense) regarding responsible gun ownership, they fear the guns.

          • 2001CPT35E

            If only you and I could teach a class or bring about positive influence. These are the kind of things that Police Chiefs and Sheriffs should be doing for their communities. Thugs are always going to do things to break the law. I was once assigned to El Paso, Texas… the city of El Paso P.D. had a program that was voluntary and you could place one of their stickers on your vehicle (night-time reflective) which allowed them to pull your vehicle over anytime without probable cause.

            El Paso is a border town next to Juarez, Mexico – the second largest city in Mexico and the most violent… American cars are stolen everyday in El Paso. I understood this and I wasn’t a criminal, so I had no problem complying. You know what, I got pulled over 5 times one night before even making it home because of that sticker, however, my vehicle was never stolen and once the Police approached my vehicle and properly identified me, that was it – have a good night and be safe.

            Now what happened to those vehicles that didn’t have a sticker?

            You have a great grasp on how things work, I suspect for the same reason I do. Let’s hope we can use our knowledge to bring about positive influence while ensuring that people understand why certain rules are in place and that department leaders understand corruption is no way to conduct business or build trust. There’s enough bad guys out there without making good people into bad guys!

            Good luck and stay safe Fedup!

          • Fedup

            It’s nice to have a conversation with someone who knows exactly what I’m trying to say. I wish there were more people like you out there! Good luck to you also!

          • 2001CPT35E

            Same here. Once you’ve done this for a while, well… you kind of know who people are. Good luck and stay safe – and keep trying to find ways to give good advice and spread about positive solutions. Not everyone will get it… but the ones that do are like pebbles being tossed in a pond – their influence spread across like ripples in the water, reaching shores far and wide.

    • Terry Rushing

      I can’t speak for other states but in the state I reside, “gun permits” create a slush fund for each sheriff, who apparently is empowered to say who may and may not exercise their second amendment rights. I’ve often wondered how one person in each county in this state has the authority to deny a constitutional right on his or her whim and the individual’s ability to pay the fee for the privilege to exercise their right.

      • 2001CPT35E

        Terry, you bring up a good point. This is where the people of your county should focus on electing a Sheriff who stands against this sort of thing and vote for a Sheriff who stands up for the Constitution. If the Sheriff won’t adhere to the Constitution, then how can we expect to hold our State Legislators, Governor, Congressmen/women, and Senators accountable.

        Keep up the good fight in your county… Constitutional Rights are not for sale – they’ve already been paid for by the blood, sweat and tears by our Veterans who have fought and continue to fight everyday for freedoms guaranteed by the Constitution and to protect and defend the Constitution.

    • Kivaari

      Four states no longer require a permit. Constitutional carry. Unfortunately for most people getting caught packing with out a permit can earn you jail time.

    • jim marcum

      well they got around illegal search and seizure didn’t they. they come up with a million reasons and ways to search you and your property. I have always wondered why they would damage they’re own country to try and make an ‘illegal’ arrest and seizure. I swear I just don’t understand that. They are making light of the Constitution of America and peoples rights. These are they’re rights and their children’s rights. Are these people that damned stupid? You have to think the answer to that is yes.

  • jim marcum

    Concealed Carry is bullshit to begin with. If your weapon is concealed no body knows you have it right? If you open carry, which is constitutional right, then everyone knows you have it. The Conceal Carry puts you on a list. The lists, records indicate, have been used in traffic stops. They know you have a CCP before they stop you. Don’t get your name on a record open carry or if you feel so conceal carry it’s your own business. Also don’t buy new guns and get registered and put on a list they know you have it and they can come looking for it. Buy from gun shows and individuals and your guns are your private business.

    • wapitihunter

      I agree but there are two schools of thought on concealed carry. Both have some merit and both have their down sides. First it is a downside that you are put on a list. This gives the “government” an easy way to confiscate your firearm and if you do carry with out their permit and caught you become a criminal. The real issue that holds any water is should one carry open or concealed. If you carry open then it is said that it easily exposes your firearm then it exposes the firearm to anyone who wants to steal it. Also some aren’t comfortable with some people brandishing a firearm or arms. I am also leery of some people carrying, say someone covered in tattoos, and dressed as they look homeless, someone dressed in middle East garb. I saw pictures of some of the guys in Dallas in a Restaurant proudly displaying their firearms. Now I would have kept their backs to me as much as possible to keep an eye on them. I would have been a bit uncomfortable. The good side for open carry is everyone knows you are armed and that anyone that is thinking about committing a crime has one more person that they might have to deal with thus preventing the criminal act. If one carries concealed then no one should know who is carrying and who is not. The criminal may proceed to commit the crime and someone who is responsible may stop the crime in progress.
      I believe that we have the right to keep and BEAR arms. Whether we choose to carry concealed or open should be up to the individual. Open carry will subject us to harassment from overzealous police officers for a while, while they educate themselves.

      • johnh

        If you open carry in public businesses and there is a bad guy wanting to do something that will put you first on the list to take out so that he can go ahead and do what he intended. It could deture the bad guy, but you still have a target on your back. Concealed carry helps prevent this from happening. Most criminals do not want to have to confront any resistance. For the most part they are cowards.

        • wapitihunter

          Like I stated, there are both good and bad to both sides. Concealed or Open. Thanks for pointing out this scenario. Most of the time I would prefer concealed carry, however there are times I might prefer open carry. It should be an individual choice. I don’t believe you must be licensed in either case. Here I can open carry any long gun but must be licensed to carry concealed? Does that make sense? But I guarantee if I open carry a long gun I am going to be hassled, arrested or detained. Police are the most likely to hassle. Sheriff Deputies, at least here are a bit more educated and understanding. What does the right to keep and bear arms mean? Does “bear” mean keeping them locked in a closet? Tell the thief or enemy hold on, give me a minute to get my gun unlocked and get my ammunition unlocked from the other room so I can defend myself. To me keep and bear arms means that I may have my firearm at the ready to defend myself and my family and any honest law abiding citizen. And any legal law abiding citizen has the same right if they choose to do so.

          • johnh

            I agree with you 100%. If you have your guns locked up. You should also have a box of rocks to defend your self while trying to open the gun safe.

          • wapitihunter

            Yes and as we all know, some people’s box has no rocks.

        • kNOwJUSTICE

          Yes, exactly. You know, one of the most courteous places to be is at a gun range. Because people respect each other on the range. If most customers had the opportunity to carry a weapon concealed, it would SIGNIFICANTLY cut down on crime. Just look at the states where it is permitted. Gun registration/confiscation laws only affect the LAW ABIDING, NOT THE CRIMINALS. Criminals couldn’t care less about abiding by the laws. Most public officials are ignorant idiots who want to pass “feel good” laws so that “they” look good to the public, and want to get re-elected.

      • kNOwJUSTICE

        Think about this scenario: if a criminal sees two people, and he knows that one of them is carrying armed and concealed and is willing to USE the gun, which one is the criminal going to attack??? NO ONE, THAT’S WHO.

    • johnh

      In Colorado buying at a gun show is just like buying from another business. You have to go through the back ground check. They also made it so you have to do a back ground check to sell to a private person. Hope they can get that one over turned. As a private person I would never sell to some one that I though that might be a gang member or some one that was going to do something bad with the gun.

      • kNOwJUSTICE

        And how the heck do you know that??? Come ON, think. You can’t tell a bad person from a good person. How do you know what a person is going to do with a weapon? Can you foresee the future, DUH?

        • johnh

          You have to rely no your own judgement and common sense if you have either.

    • kNOwJUSTICE

      But if you “open carry” the cops will SEE IT, hello? Then you’ll be on a “list” DUH. I have conceal carried before, and would rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6. If you buy from a gun show, ask the seller if “they” are a dealer or not, hmmmm? Private sellers don’t have to “inform” on you, Thank God. I don’t trust the “Guvmint” as far as I can throw ’em.

  • OWEN

    what do you expect from a Marxist dictator , the liberal degenerates in the country voted this unethical a-hole in to office. the Marxist democrat party put this Satanist into office ( Obama utube luke10:18 ) look it up.

  • Vinny Sheehan

    That will be the day. Kiss my ass.!!!

  • YehudaPa

    Sounds like they can ask the same way they ask to search you or your car. You can say no.

  • YehudaPa

    You have a constitutional as well as G-d given right to your guns. However, it one does not get the permit they could end up being punished by a corrupt government that seeks disarmament. I for one am not willing to risk giving up a substantial portion of my life over this issue as much as I agree with the posters who say that we don’t need a permit to carry. I agree we SHOULD NOT need a permit to carry but what if the government is corrupt and makes a law that one does need one? Then I would think the proper procedure is to get one, or not if you disagree. There is always the option to move to a state that doesn’t require permits if there are any left.

    • kNOwJUSTICE

      Yes: ARIZONA! That’s where they have their heads on straight. My wife and I are thinking of moving there from Californicate. California is one of the five worst states when it comes to protecting yourself and others with firearms. We’ve lived here all our lives and we’re SICK of it. CALIFORNIA is PARANOID when it comes to guns. P.S.: I don’t put ANY personal info on FaceBook, period!

  • wapitihunter

    Oh, forget that there is a bill of rights. But I don’t care. Anyone who wants to look at my Facebook Page or Twitter page would be bored to death or be educated to the truth about firearms. IT is full of gun and outdoor ads. I don’t post my personal business or thoughts there. I post my beliefs here.

    • David

      As stated earlier, all it takes is a distant link that you’re totally unaware of. A good example is somebody that is 20 friend of a friend steps down from your cousins girlfriends brother in law.
      They WILL dig until they find something no matter how distant, there will be a theoretical link somewhere.
      I’m an outdoors, motorcycle, firearms enthusiast. So it would be really easy to say that I have criminal ties to Outlaw Motorcycle Clubs, because if you ride ANY brand of motorcycle, some one you know, knows some one who knows some one ++++++++++, that knows a current or former club member, and or convicted felon.
      They are not opposed to lying or fabricating the truth to get what they want. In their view, F@ck “YOUR RIGHTS”, only theirs matter. They are the people who are never wrong.

      • wapitihunter

        Sorry I was sort of being sarcastic when I say I don’t care. As I stated people who want to look at my social media pages would be bored to death but one of “them” would say that I am a ” gun nut”. And they would be right. But I have never done anything illegal with a firearm. Now some may object but I have never had to use my firearm yet. All I have had to do is display that I am armed and that has ended the problem.
        I do agree with you. If this is passed they will find a way. They will find a way anyway but this would just make it a bit easier. You might want to read my comments further down the page concerning concealed carry vs open carry.

  • Quell Davis

    Just move !

  • jessejames5

    What if you changed the PW afterwards?

    • msueh

      what if you just don’t waste time on fb in the first place?

  • MILES E DRAKE

    Another indication that Obala and his gang of fools and traitors have just about finished building the totalitarian structure and are ready to flip the switch that will make the doors slam shut. We must throw the party of ISIS, Ebola and Amnesty out of the congress next month, then surround the would-be imperial palace every day until the quisling regime falls.

    • Michael Dennewitz

      Shiiitttt, All of our top military are scared shitless to try anything. Three years ago, the Marines should have marched into the “not so white” house and arrested the lil bastard. Nope! America sits on their dead asses and watches it all go down!!!

      • Frank Brady

        I here your passion, and the frustration in your comment, BUT, the military take over the White House?REALLY? The military is one of the most dangerous objects to our liberty. The constitution and the founders were adamantly opposed to a standing army. You would like the military to march on Washington and take over? What then? freedom and liberty for all or maybe a military dictatorship, the likes of which the world has yet to see! The military falls under the executive branch, the president, and must be his arm of power to be used outside of the states, per the The Posse Comitatus Act of 1878.

        • Sue4477

          While I agree with your points, I also recognize that the military have fought outside of the US to keep this country free. Many have done a great service for us. Just their presence has proven a deterrent to other nations at times.
          Many military do not like Obumer at all. Whether they will blindly obey him is an unknown to me. Especially WITHIN the nation. You brought up a good point that many of us need to consider.

      • marla1

        You are so damn right!!!!!

        • Ian MacLeod

          The entire setup of Washington D.C. is “elite” owned and run; it is NOT out LEGITIMATE GOVERNMENT! Why not roll into town and SHUT IT DOWN, arrest every single politician, judge and official, and start trials for treason? The White House is NOT “The People’s House” – it’s the damned ROTHSCHILD’S house! There are literally tens of MILLIONS of pissed-off Americans with no idea of what to do. Anything useful that gets done will HAVE to be on this order; anything less will simply be overwhelmed. Such action IS Constitutionally sanctioned. Every word out of Jsfferson’s (and other Founder’s) pens says that THEY understood this. All legal political power emanates from We the People and NOT ffrom any “authority” whose power approximate Royalty! In fact, NO agency of ANY KIND has any power that can legally be extended beyond the borders of Washington D.C.; it’s part of a foreign country, it’s foreign-owned, it’s SATURATED with Luciferian symbolism… It’s LONG past time to clean house.

      • Jack

        Michael, I totally agree with you. This business of respecting the office is fine but that doesn’t mean you have to respect the man who holds it, Liberals are always complaining that true conservatives like myself are most all the time being accused of not respecting the office of president, but they are misguided on that point, I would guess that most Americans respect the office as it were, but show me in the Constitution where it says you have to respect the man holding that office.

        Liberals are the complete hypocrites, for eight years they criticised Bush and even attacked his family, but now when they have one of their own in the drivers seat they get indignant when somebody says something about their failed icon Obama.

        One man on here talks of the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878. That act doesn’t pertain to the National Guard who can make an arrest if they are ask by another state to do so, the Coast Guard is exempt from that act also. So
        what is to stop the Guard from going to Washington to remove any president who commits crimes against our Constitution?
        What bothers me about these kind of talk forums is the fact that is all they are all talk and no action. The American public has been saddled with the House portion of Congress, and the leaders like Boehner are a bunch of weak kneed cowards who have no interest except self survival so they can enjoy all the perks that go with the job, and all the while the people suffer under a would be dictator. If November 4th comes and goes and this administration still controls the Senate then the American people only have themselves to blame, and it doesn’t matter what party you belong to Democrat, Republican, Tea Party and Independent we will all share the destruction of what was the greatest country on this Earth, and all the talking on these forums will be blown away by insurrection by the people themselves, so we have only two choices we remain a great Republic or we end up in the ash heap of Communism.

  • Dorothy Foster

    The world will not be destroyed by those who do evil, but by those who watch and do nothing !! EINSTEIN

  • 2001CPT35E

    Just saying that American
    citizens need to ban together and let our elected and appointed
    officials know that what the Constitution actually says, and that their
    violation of the Constitution is actually a violation of the law, which
    means they should be arrested and charged with Constitutional Rights
    violations. That’s not a gun issue, that’s an American Civil Liberties
    issue.

    Elected and appointed officials take an oath to uphold the
    Constitution of the United States, because it is the foundation of the
    laws that govern our land. Any failure to uphold the Constitution is
    considered dereliction of duty. Any willful disregard of the
    Constitution and an attempt to circumvent it and replace it with your
    own laws or policies is not only a violation of the law and punishable
    as a crime, but is also treasonous – and treason according to the law
    has its own set of punishments.

    Where does it end? Today’s they
    want us to produce a permit or piece of paper for something that is
    already guaranteed as a Constitutional Right under the Second
    Amendment. Tomorrow, we might need a permit or some special type of
    paper to exercise all of our other rights guaranteed by the
    Constitution.

    Also, is it fair for states or cities to profit
    from something that is already a guaranteed Constitutional Right…
    meaning should states be allowed to charge a fee for weapons permits in
    the first place? If the Constitution already gives you the right to own
    and carry a weapon, then why should I pay a state or county or city a
    fee for something I am guaranteed by federal law? I guess those with
    more money could simply buy more protection by guaranteeing their
    freedom for a Right to Privacy and from Search & Seizure, or that
    those with more money can simply have a greater Freedom of Expression
    than the rest of us because they can afford to buy more permits.

    I’m
    just saying it’s a slippery slope and where does it stop. We are
    either a nation whose foundation and rule of law is based on the U.S.
    Constitution – we’re not. Until the American people decide otherwise,
    cities like D.C., New York, Chicago and states like New Jersey, New York
    and several others don’t get to just toss aside the U.S. Constitution
    and govern under the “D.C. Constitution” or “New York Constitution”!
    States can pass their own laws, but they cannot impede or trample on the
    Constitution and the rights guaranteed by it. Any law enacted that
    does so, is by nature invalid to begin with and those who chose to
    enforce it are breaking the law and any court not ruling in favor of the
    Constitution is in violation of the law. Separately, cities and
    counties cannot pass their own laws – only states and the federal
    government can pass laws.

    While we are self governing states, we
    are unified by the Constitution. Remove that, then we are only 50
    separate nations and territories – no longer linked by the Constitution
    that unites us as a nation. So, a citizen from Texas should be able to
    travel to New Jersey knowing that at least his or her Constitutional
    Rights are protected and guaranteed in every state, rather than have to
    worry which Constitutional Rights are guaranteed in certain states and
    cities and which ones are not.

    Lastly, I would argue that any
    person arrested because they did not have a permit to carry a weapon
    should have their conviction overturned and their records expunged and
    and fully cleared, even out of the NCIC system – because they are
    essentially political prisoners, arrested on a charge that was actually a
    violation of the civil rights – and the arresting officers should be
    charged with a crime for violating the person’s civil rights and the
    department for which the officers or agents worked for should be charged
    with infringing on the U.S. Constitution. Any judge that did not
    overturn the conviction should be charged with obstruction and
    dereliction of duty for failing to uphold the law of the land… the
    Constitution of the United States – by which they too swore an oath to
    uphold.

  • James Maxwell

    Hell that simple, get a face book account, give it to them and never, never
    use it to say how dammed stupid they really are. Just upset the poor, whine
    liberals who would be dictators.

  • Valor

    So what if you are not on face book? That cop shop can kiss my grits. More proof this is Post Constitutional America.

  • Alan404

    Would the police accept my word for the fact that I do not have a Face Book Account, which is the fact of the matter? I wonder. Otherwise, what possibly might be the LEGITIMATE reasoning behind such a question, note LEGITIMATE is writ large. I submit that the bureaucratic idiots behind this stunt should be “drop kicked” into the next century, having been immediately dismissed, with prejudice, from any aspect of Law Enforcement or Public Service Employment.

  • Alan404

    Another poster asked, Where does it end, which strikes me as a very cogent question. Do the police have an equally cogent answer? If so,they need to publicize it immediately. I suspect that the silence would be deafening

  • Lawrence Miller

    If every one of us who owns a pistol wares the weapon or conceals the weapon on a single day I can tell you they would not have enough jails, judges and courts to handle the situation. I don’t know how far this comment goes but I am suggesting we as a country set a date in the future, lets say three months from now in order to get the word out that the citizens in this country who owns a pistol either ware or conceal the pistol on that day and push them back against the wall. Let them know there is a constitution and then need to abide to it because we are by bearing weapons as to the constitution. .

  • Chip Perretta

    Wow from a place that manufacture the biggest gun tubes for tanks in the US.

  • Paul Brown

    They want my password, come and beg for it on your knees first, then I can spit in their eyes, because I wouldn’t give them shit.

  • frank jackson

    Or have 2 FB accounts with just a lot of women’s pictures on it. Or men. Either way, it would be interesting.

  • marla1

    Every blog is demanding you to sign on to Facebook, twitter, google+ or in or a couple others! They can kiss my azz before I sign onto any of these! after a while no one will use them!!!!!! in was one you did not have to and now they demand you sin in to one or the other! Like I said they can kiss my a–!

  • Fedup

    One thing that a lot of the comments are missing is that this is for a concealed weapons permit. The last time I checked, every state requires you to have a permit to CONCEAL your guns. This is not a permit to OWN a gun. I’m not familiar with D.C. laws but there is a difference between owning a gun and concealing a gun. You can still own a gun but it has to be in plain sight. If you are stopped for a traffic violation and you have a gun under the seat, you better have a permit for that. If you leave it on the back seat, you don’t need a permit but you need to let the officer know prior to him/her approaching your car. We have every right to own a gun and transport them but you need to have a permit in order to conceal them. A lot of these comments lead me to believe that you all think that the permit is only to OWN a gun in D.C. That is not the case.

  • adrianvance

    Has the whole nation gone nuts? Just because we have a mental case for a President is no reason.

    Google “Two Minute Conservative” and you will know.

  • fsa0033

    What if you don’t have an account? Do you have to make one up then delete it afterwards? There are programs that monitor and store keystrokes. They can retrieve any password and key information per applicant.

  • Storm

    Boy what a deal. So now you know where Suckerburg stands

  • Shauna

    What does a permit to carry have anything to do with FB?

  • adrianvance

    This is well beyond “1984” These people are fascists and nuts!

    Google “Two Minute Conservative” and get sharp.

  • Jack

    I would hand over my facebook name or password, with the pistol facing barrel first toward the simpleton that suggested this idiotic statement.

  • Kivaari

    The constitution does not give us rights. It protects us from government abuse, or it should. Any state that prohibits concealed carry is violating the law. Obama hates the restraints imposed on him by the constitution.

  • Doc Memory

    My advice — have a fake Farcebook page available. Just like when some fool asks you for your SSN — make one up.

    The page says I love America, Mom, and apple pie. I’m in favor of peace and killing all suspected terrorists. Law enforcement does a tough job, and we should all be proud of them! If you want to change the government, vote!

    Or from the evil side of my brain — create pages for those that abstain, tip off the authorities! “Oh, this is his real page, that other one is a phoney — you won’t let him really make those bombs, will you?” Maybe the Police Chief needs such a page?

  • The ‘constitutional method’ which means the ‘Bill of Rights’ method, means you go buy a weapon, learn how to properly use it with no help or demands from the state or any government and proceed to carry it where ever you damn well please without any ‘license,’ permission slip or tax paid to any government.

    It’s time to stop apologizing to our blood domestic enemies. They knew full well what the result of the welfare state and ‘drug war’ would be when they implemented them.

    Don’t understand? Go to freekentuckydotcom and prepare for what will be required.

  • Jason Buckwheat

    my space might be a better place to go,BECAUSE OF THE OBAMA LOVER WHO OWNS THIS .

  • mule man

    Bet the Gestapo would have loved social media

    • Joe_USA

      Hitler would have tried to crush the world if he had social media, kind of like isis is trying to do.

  • rev_dave

    Wing-nuts? Well, this wing-nut thinks they are all ‘criminal enablers’ and ‘accomplices’, and seditionists. Let’s reframe the discussions to use such marginalizing terms on the monolithic rabid gun control lobby! Cowards, baby-killers, rape enablers, accomplices to murder. Call a spade a spade people. These folks would rather see your kids diddled in public by syphilitic baboons than see you protect the kids with a gun.

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