While it’s admirable that Democratic presidential frontrunner Hillary Clinton is finally ready to start talking about her specific plans for her administration, her economic platform appears to be comprised of the same liberal claptrap that has stagnated the economy for the last six years. Anyone who feared that Clinton would be Obama 2.0 has all the evidence they need to confirm their worst suspicions.
“I believe we have to build a growth and fairness economy,” Clinton said Monday in New York City. “Wages need to rise to keep up with costs. Paychecks need to grow. Families who work hard and do their part deserve to get ahead and stay ahead.”
It’s the kind of populist platform that inspires the ignorant, but it’s the same redistributive policies that have prevented this country from experiencing a true recovery. She is hammering non sequitur ideas like company profit-sharing and breaking gender barriers, but these are just decorative touches meant to make her speeches sizzle. When you get down to the meat and potatoes of her plan, you see a meal that is hauntingly familiar.
Among her proposals: more federal infrastructure spending, higher minimum wages, child care subsidies, higher taxes on foreign earnings, subsidies for green energy, and rules meant to encourage the formation of labor unions. You can read this as higher taxes, more energy regulations, and a continuation of the massive spending that has put America in a world of debt. Democrats who hoped that Clinton’s economic agenda would be closer to her husband’s than Obama’s cannot be pleased.
What’s funny, though, is that her own liberal base is also disgruntled. It’s obvious that her agenda has been pushed to the left by the rising star of Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders, but she hasn’t done enough to inspire his supporters to switch their allegiances. Her plans are liberal enough to hurt the economy but not liberal enough to attract the socialists. She’s not going to go after the big banks, she’s not proposing free college, and she made no mention of boosting Social Security benefits. That leaves her open to attack from both the left and the right.
Unfortunately, those attacks can only do damage if the American people are willing to listen to them. Voters are certainly influenced by the economy, but there is a great deal of ignorance out there about what works and what doesn’t. How else could Obama have possibly won in 2012? How could these Democrats keep getting elected in cities that are falling to pieces? Americans have a long history of voting against their own best interests, meaning we can’t assume that “bad ideas” will keep Clinton from winning the White House.
On the other hand, it’s clear that Clinton does not enjoy the same cult of personality that gave Obama his popularity. She will have to rely more heavily on actual policy because she doesn’t have the charisma to carry her campaign on charm alone. If Republicans can convince voters that she would lead us straight into the heart of another recession, we may be able to avoid the next chapter in the Clinton dynasty after all.
ignore Clinton and focus on restoring a smaller government, less taxes and by all mean do not seek to raise minimum wages so high as to close businesses. this entire outlook seems to support the intent to devastate and destroy America.
She will promise all to get to be prez.
Less taxes?+
How about less money wasted on war, and war machines?
The infrastructure is falling apart.
Let’s fix America.
Pretty funny how nobody around here likes ur deranged ass
Nay!
I like how you have one of the best presidents this country has ever seen as your avatar
Grow up.
Life isn’t a popularity contest.
What makes you think I give a —- whether or not you “like” me?
How many times a day do you get bitch slapped?
Yay!
Let’s turn America into Kolkata (Calcutta).
Let’s put the elderly disabled and children into the street to beg.
We can hire more drivers, and add trucks to the morning body pick up duty.
Yes, Lee, cities send trucks around to gather up dead bodies every morning before you set off to work.
Hillary is an idiot and needs to be done away with! Minimum wage jobs were not meant to support a family, but Bill Clinton’s signature on a couple of trade agreements made sure they would be. Hillary’s will totally wipe out jobs for the middle class. She is a flat out and total liar and that is her biggest accomplishment–lying constantly.
She said , “People trust me.” LOL She’s lying again. I wouldn’t trust her for the time of day.
Bush’s weapons of mass destruction…
Remember she got the same intel briefing and voted for the Iraq war
WMD existed and were relocated.
AKLady,
Hillary is Bush’s weapon of mass destruction? Sorry, I could not pass that up.
Actually. Hillary is Bill Clinton’s opening for a third and fourth term of office. The economy actually did well under his administration..
That is a lie. It has not done well since Nixon took us off the Gold Standard.
Source?
How about some facts and figures?
AKLady,
I agree. Of course, the GOP was pushing him pretty hard. But I do not trust Hilary since the Democratic party has change considerably since he was President.
Get a clue — this is not about politics — THIS IS ABOUT AMERICAN.
Keep playing the right v. left, top v. bottom game and this country is done — gone. Look at history. When the majority is in abject poverty, there is a revolt. Happens ever time.
AKLady,
Get a clue. Our political system sucks. It should be about Americans. It is leaving that concept at warp speed.
AKLADY the economy under Bill C was nothing more then the extension of what the first president Bush had started, Clinton just rode the waves period
Tell the WHOLE story,….the economy did well under Clinton’s administration BECAUSE, we had a Republican Congress that put together the “Contract for America” & Clinton was forced to go along with it!!!
Actually, what we had were adults who worked together to help their country. It is the political divide which as caused serious damage, and will continue to destroy this nation.
WMD were there and they were moved.
obama’s “You can keep your insurance”
I kept mine.
Apparently, the company you did business with saw an opportunity to gouge you for more money. I saw a $2.00 increase in my cost at the policy renewal date.
Bush — 100,000 unnecessary deaths, two wars on the credit card, doubled the national debt, cost America millions of jobs …
The topic isn’t bush it’s hillary or can’t you read?
The subtopic is lies told by politicians.
Do try to keep up.
Are we reading the same article? The one I read only discussed Clinton and did not mention Bush. Bush was interjected into the conversation by someone calling themselves AKLady2015.
Probably a paid Troll…Sure sounds like one…
You support Hillary.
There he is again, assume, assume, assume …
No. We are talking about Hillary.
No, we are talking about an Economic Plan sponsored by Hillary.
AKLady,
Let’s see now, Hillary is a poltician………………………..
However, it was not a Democrat who destroyed the American economy. Supply side economics have never worked.
it was not supply side economics that destroyed America it was Bill Clinton and the community reinvestment act which causes the crisis. telling a bank that they had to lend to people in poor neighborhood regardless of whether the individuals had the ability to pay the loans back.
These lies just never go away.
The economy improved under Clinton.
Two wars on the credit card, accompanied by tax decrease wiped out the improvements and took the US down the rabbit hole.
By the time Obama took office, America was dropping 1 million jobs a month. Between 2000 and 2008, America lost 3.4 million manufacturing jobs. In just the Bush first term, 1.9 million jobs were lost due to the trade deficit.
Between 2000 007, the trade deficit increased from $379 billion to $700 billion. The deficit with China went from $83 billion to $256 billion,
Between NAFTA’s implementation in 1994 and 2004, trade deficits with NAFTA partners eliminated 1 million jobs, 65% high-paying manufacturing jobs.10 Yet, President Bush replicated the NAFTA-model in all of his administration’s trade negotiations.
AKLady,
I have never supported supply side economics. It does not work and never will.
AK you are so totaly dumb you need a gag , you are completely brain dead WHORE
Mindy, AK is evidently a Dumbacrat. WAKE UP AKLADY2015!
susiev You have that right and a stupid one also
A STUPID one at that,……but then, I think they all are!!!!
Even more boring
Go back to sleep.
Your material is redundant and boring.
The right-wing insult, amazing to see.
No facts, no common sense, but a head full on insults.
This War (The Iraq War) the Lib (Totalitarians) are talking about were agreed to by both Repubs & Dems based on intelligence at that time.
It is my opinion that there were WMD’s, that were either buried in the sand, thrown in the Sea or shipped to another country – I’m sure I’m right. The current problems have been caused by ‘barry hussein otero’ by pulling the troops out – period!
All of the major U.S. wars in the 20th century—World War I, II, Korea and Vietnam—were entered by Democratic administrations. Harry Truman, a Democrat, is still the only world leader to use a nuclear bomb on a population. And with the exception
of World War II, where almost all anti-war sentiment collapsed after Pearl Harbor, these wars were entered over the objections of the left wing of the Democratic Party. But while the presence of that left wing has guaranteed that anti-war liberals rally to the Democratic side, it not yet stopped a Democratic administration from going to war.
Face this fact : in the 20th century, it was the Democratic party that was the more aggressive pursuer of foreign wars. You can make whatever claim you like about historical contingency, necessity, or immediate context. None of them should convince anyone that the Democrats, as a party, are opposed to war. They’re not even more opposed to war than Republicans. They are a party of warmongers. Many young anti-war Obama voters have learned a hard lesson: when you put your faith, energy or activism into electing Democrats, no matter what domestic policy you support, you’re also putting your weight behind militarism, a crackdown on civil liberties, and foreign wars of aggression.
Didn’t we see convoys of trucks w/WMDs on them going to Jordan?
No, we did not.
Obama did what Congress required him to do. Congress must approve treaties.
Maybe you would have preferred that the U.S. violate its treaty with Iraq — the one signed by Bush and approved by Congress?
The U.S.–Iraq Status of Forces Agreement (official name: Agreement Between the United States of America and the Republic of Iraq On the Withdrawal of United States Forces from Iraq and the Organization of Their Activities during Their Temporary Presence in Iraq) was a status of forces agreement (SOFA) between Iraq and the United States, signed by President George W. Bush in 2008.
Marge,
As a historian I find all wars are fought for economic reasons. Idealism may be the rally cry but you an always bet on economics to be behind a real reason for wars. Most wars do not begin on a quick moment of surprise. They take years to develop. So I do not lay the blame for any war beginning with a specific administration.
Most of the WMD went to Syria and yes other countries
typical lib. blame everything on someone else. Your utopia is flawed.
AK shut your stupid fking mouth
Childish foul language.
Your mother should have washed your mouth out with soap.
Grow up.
AK you have to be the most ill informed arrogant bitch on the planet, you are wasting good air by breathing it,you should be locked away to be studied FOOL
‘hillary rodham clinton’ has only one objective in mind – AND that is to expand her phoney foundation’s GLOBAL PANHANDLING OPERATION. That’s all I’m going to say about that, and I’m sticking to it – period.
Except it is Bill Clinton’s foundation. Also, it is managed by a board of directors, just like all other large businesses.
Whatever, It all comes out of the same pocket!
Apparently, you think the donations go into Clinton bank accounts.
They don’t, but whatever floats your boat.
They say ignorance is bliss.
Yeah. I know they are supposed to have a separate political account, but with Hilliary you can’t be sure of anything.
Sure,…..we all know the Clintons are “dead broke”,…..Hillary said so, right??
Don’t you wish someone would pay $100,000 for you to give a speech?
well I guess you are 100% for Hillary. My sympathy for you and like minded brain dead liberals.
My sympathy for you and like minded brain dead uneducated right-wing …..
We the People do not elect the President. We never have, and we never will elect a President until the Electoral College is abolished. That would require a Constitutional Amendment.
These President did not receive the People’s vote: John Quincy Adams, Andrew Jackson, Rutherford B. Hayes, Benjamin Harrison, and George W. Bush
Maybe you should learn how your country works?
AKLADY when the revolution starts its idiots like you that need to be done away with first and there is a shit load of you dum fuckers
Childish foul language.
No doubt why you are at the bottom if the kidder,
Ditch the trash mouth, you might even get a raise.
Marge the Clintons are nothing more then Commies in a not so good disquis , all bull shit they are
Hate like yours has been destroying our country.
Keep it up, you’ll have nothing left to fight over.
Unemployment dropped under Clinton.
The economy expanded under Clinton.
Reagan, Supply Side Economics are what destroyed America’s economics. When Bush II reinstituted those policies. we did not have any hope.
By the time King Bush left the White House, we were dropping 1 million jobs a month. Had been for well over six months.
No Reagan’s policies saved the USA. What is really hurting the USA are the DEmocrats and there spendthrift policies. I would like to see the USA go back to Capitalism and get out of the military industrial complex. The government does not solve problems it simply makes them worse.
Congress spends the money.
The federal fiscal year runs October 1 through September 30.
Presidents are sworn in on, or about January 20.
Debt increase by president:
Obama – 53%
Bush II – 101% – Republican
Clinton – 32%
Bush I – 54% – Republican
Reagan – 186% – Republican
Carter – 43%
Ford – 47% – Republican
Nixon – 34% – Republican (Criminal)
Johnson – 13%
Kennedy – 8%
Eisenhower – 9% Republican
Truman – 3%
Roosevelt – 1,048% (WW II)
Hoover – 33% – Republican
Coolidge – reduced by 26%
Harding – reduced by 7% – Republican
Wilson – 727% (WW I)
(Source: OMB, Table 1.1—Summary of Receipts, Outlays, and Surpluses or Deficits: 1789–2017)
Back up the mouth with fact —
I don’t believe you would recognize a fact, if it hit you!!
Insult — the #1 response of the empty headed.
Get a life. I’m not impressed.. No one else is either.
Reagan said it best,…”The 10 most frightening words you can ever hear is, (I’m from the government, and I’m here to help you!)”
Well, the hurricane victims did not get to hear that under Bush.
Those that heard it under Obama were quite grateful.
Spendthrift policies — Afghan war, cost $1 million/day – Republican; Iraq War, cost $1 million/day – Republican.+
Please provide evidence of a single Democratic project running up the national debt at $730 million or more a day.
Bush tried to warn Congress of the danger of the “bubble bursting” back in 2003, you know, the phony “everybody should own a home that wants one B.S.”, that slobbering Barney Frank & Chris Dodd & the other stupid democrats that had taken over Congress during Bush’s 2nd. year in office! Some of you fools tend to forget about that!! People were buying $200,000. homes with $10 & $12. per hr. jobs!! No way in hell should that have EVER been allowed, but that’s what the democrats were pushing!! I had two neighbors that fell into that trap, like 75% of the rest of the country did!! But you fools keep blaming Bush for those problems that were really not all his!!
Except that is not what the facts show.
Must be nice to make things up as you go.
My conscious won’t allow me to do that.
Free trade agreements along with right to work laws and no minimum wage would do much to improve the economy. We need to get rid of tariffs on all products and allow competition, We should replace welfare and social security with a negative income tax. We need constitutional amendment where the government cannot interfere with private economic freedom. The biggest problem with the USA is we have lost our economic freedom and many of the issues could easily be resolved by a few minor adjustments and reduction of regulations. However most Americans seem to like having to pay 10x what an item is worth simply because they are being taught the corporations are the enemy and that profit is bad.
Economic Freedom?
Government for corporations, of corporations, by corporations.
Jobs in China — profits in Republican bank accounts.
Profit is what turns the wheels of our economy!
Question?
What will fund your negative income tax?
How many people will have to die before you realize food and drug safety are required government evil?
Phony arrogant blatant lying Bitch of Benghazi.
Don’t we believe that “If You can’t say something nice, don’t say anything at all,” is the Christian American way?
Maybe you can turn the other cheek as they are about to lop off your head, sorry not going to be me, I’ll be blowing them away when they try.
Obscene language and self defense are not equivalent. Common courtesy is the only civilized way to act.
Good luck walt when the bad times com you will be alone obscene or not you will be dead.
Not really. This is America. Don’t you believe? If not, go to . . . .
No, actually, he won’t be.
However, you will have made so many enemies, there will be no one left to cover your back.
Civilized? Repubnics are cave people.
And your party is really proving themselves. What a joke. People have had enough of your garbage kind.
The joke is you, making a fool of yourself before the world.
Assumptions will get you in trouble all the time.
Only you libs are laughing and you’re no Lady.
Liberals say that 4 out of 3 people have trouble with math. That seem right Lib?
Fact: The “red” states have the most school dropouts.
Source: U.S. Census.
Maybe you should try valid facts, instead of publishing your ignorance before the world.
I made a poor attempt at a joke. But those who voted an enemy into the WH twice are not in my favor. I’m not going to sit by the side and have my rights taken from me. Valid facts are what I know and you cannot comprehend.
Provide a source.
Document that claim.
A joke.. You don’t see it? You are dense.
And democrats have no morals…kill the unborn children and sell their body parts….homo marriages….sky is the limit! No Morals!
I have bad news for you. Republicans have abortions.
What a completely stupid remark, Crawl back in your hole!
I agree with you Susiev.
The only stupid remarks here are the outright lies told by people like you that are posting here.
I bet you’re a Muslm.
Your average IQ of your party is 80 points about equal to a monkey.
Sorry, child, the only one here with a dismal IQ is you. Your extremely poor language skills say you are at best a third grader.
Ever here of Mensa Moron.
You are probably right, as we ALL will be living in caves when the liberals get done transforming our once great nation into a third rate country.
Yeh. You be nice to our enemies Walt. Be civilized and you will be dead. Foolish guy.
;-}
Maybe you should be civilized to your fellow Americans?
Maybe you should not embarrass all of America with lies and childish foul language?
Be nice to you liberals who voted in the Anti-Constitutional electees? Be nice to those who voted for the ones that are destroying the U.S.A.? Tell me what lies I have stated?
Unless we are talking about Hillary. Then it’s ok.
Childish name calling is never acceptable.
It is even more unacceptable when foul language is added.
The ignorant right-wing lies, the bigotry and language are an embarrassment to America.
I agree with what you say, except left-wing liberals have also been known to post ignorant lies involving bigotry and foul language, and they attempt to insult anyone who does not agree with them. Let’s give credit where credit is due.
This is a “conservative” web site.
If what you say is correct, why are you, an obvious liberal, reading and posting on the site? Just wondering.
Liberal, no.
Legalist, yes.
Defender of equality under the law, yes.
Remember women have been, and continue to be discriminated against in many areas of our system. Wages are an area of huge discrimination.
Some believe truth is a requirement.
I stand corrected, but as a Legalist, Obama’s actions concerning the illegal immigration issue must drive you up a wall. From a Legalist’s standpoint, is it acceptable for the President to chose which laws to enforce and which laws to ignore?
If you are concerned about discrimination against women concerning wages, don’t rely on Obama to help you out, as it has been shown that his administration pays female staffers LESS than it pays male staffers. It appears that Obama has learned to “talk the talk”, but he has not learned how to “walk the walk”.
Not on this board.
Only Christians in name only hang out here.
And . . . . .?
They think “Love thy neighbor” is a sitcom, not the Words of Jesus.
WWJD?
“Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.” Matthew 25:41-43
Amen!
More childish name calling.
Same old, same old.
Don’t any of you Repubnics have any imagination?
Imagination? Do you mean like liberals singing their old worn-out “Blame it on Bush” theme song for 6+ years, because they can’t think of anything else to sing?
Thank you for serving Sir.
Like adults?
Mature adults?
Adults who did not drop out of school?
Adults capable of holding a grown up, factual discussion?
Who would be the adult? Surely not you…
You approve of potty mouth?
If you mean johnanaguski’s comment, no, I do not approve of calling Clinton a “Bitch”, but I have no problem with the rest of his comment.
Phone – “Bill and I were dead broke when we left the White House”.
Arrogant – “I am one of you.”
Blatant lying – Email scandal, with her lying so many time, it is hard to keep track of the lies.
Benghazi – “Was it because of a protest or was it because of guys out for a walk one night and decided they’d go kill some Americans,” Clinton said. “What difference – at this point, what difference does it make?”
And, would believe that some people want this type of person to be our next President.
You ARE a libbo. LOL Are you a lesbian libbo like Hillary?
Not only childish insults, but sexualized as well.
YOU ARE A CHILD.
AN IGNORANT CHILD.
I believe you are the one who said, “More childish name calling. Same old, same old.” And, then come back with a response like “YOU ARE A CHILD. AN IGNORANT CHILD.” Figures.
“You ARE a libbo. LOL Are you a lesbian libbo like Hillary?”
Immature?
Foul language?
Conservative?
Embarrassing for America?
Ignorant?
Offensive?
Truth and reality are not name calling.
I am quite sure I am old enough to be that individual’s parent. I fully expect you are also. If one of my children spoke that way, they would get a mouth washing. I suspect yours would also.
I agree with what you say, as insults, name calling, and offensive language are NEVER necessary to make a point. Al apparently believes the opposite, and it is best to ignore him, until he posts rational, well thought out responses.
I’ve enjoyed talking with you.
Thank you for you input.
Even here in Alaska, it is late.
Good night.
I have also enjoyed our “back and forth”, and I DO respect your opinions. By the way, I never thanked you for being a military wife. So, a BIG thank you for supporting your husbands and children and the sacrifices you made, especially the lose of a loved one.
Until later. Have a good one.
There are advantages and disadvantages. Look at all the travel and world experience that come with military life.
Death is a sure thing. War, car accident, illness’ … The loss never goes away, buy time heals the wound.
I agree.
It would be nice if she did ignore me. She’s at the point where she is annoying.
Then ignore me.
The Truth really hurts you kool aid drinking sheeple.
First, there has to be truth and fact. You do not seem to have bothered to look at either.
“The interagency response was timely and appropriate, but there simply was not enough time, given the speed of the attacks, for armed U.S. military assets to have made a difference.” [Army Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff].
The TRUTH really hurts you incredibly brainwashed, right-wing zombies.
Your response is accurate, but reflect a somewhat naïve understanding of how the military works.
First, of course General Dempsey would support the administration’s decision to take no action. Do you really think that Gen. Dempsey would contradict Obama AND keep his job?
Second, I worked in the National Military Command Center at the Pentagon as the Automatic Data Processing Liaison Officer for two years, and it took a “Sensitive Information” security clearance (one step above Top Secret) to hold that job. Without getting into details that may or may not still be classified, let me assure that, IF the President WANTED and ORDERED a response, there WOULD have been a response.
When analyzing a situation to determine a course of action, “doing nothing” is always an option. Sadly, “doing nothing” was the course of action Obama chose, and then he chalked it up to a demonstration about some video – no big deal, right?
My parents were military.
I served, Vietnam.
Both my husbands were active duty military officers.
One died for his country.
I have a son and a daughter currently on active duty.
As a civilian, I have been employed by the U.S.D.A., the U.S. Naval Medical Corps, the U.S. Navy Shipyards, the Veterans Administration, and the Department of Defense.
Shall we discuss the type of security clearances we have held?
Response? Against who? As you should be aware, the host country is responsible for embassy security. Slight issue there, Benghazi was not an embassy.
So, what security clearance did you hold? As a civilian, you worked for the government in a number of capacities, but none of your jobs dealt with our militaries reaction abilities and capabilities, mine did. Any rationalization will not change the fact that, IF the President WANTED a response, there would have been a response. “Response? Against who?”. Sounds like Obama’s logic. If Obama HAD ordered a response, as least he could say that he tried to aid the people at Benghazi. But, he chose to do nothing except get ready for his fund raiser in Las Vegas the next day.
Yes, the host country is responsible for embassy security, and that worked out well for the people at Benghazi, right? But, as you said, Benghazi was not even an embassy, so what security did Libya provide to this non-embassy? Obviously not enough.
Good job LTC.
Any response by our military would have been an INVASION.
Stevens turned down military assistance twice in the 30 days prior to the attack. Army Gen. Carter Ham, then the head of the U.S. Africa Command, personally spoke with Stevens.
Highly placed in the military — right. Not with the logic you just displayed. Certainly not with the lack of information you just displayed. Oh, for the record, civilians work in the highest security level positions which exist in the government.
The people in Benghazi refused additional security.
Moreover, our military could not have reached them in time to prevent any of the deaths.
Oh, and usm, I think you would be very surprised at how much your wife knew. I guarantee that if she did not qualify for the same clearance you needed, you would never have made the grade,
Do you want to know the real reason that there was no response? Although the ambassador was killed, the Benghazi “consulate” was not a consulate at all but essentially a secret CIA operation which included an effort to round up shoulder-launched missiles. U.S. officials had been constrained in discussing that fact, as the administration could not publicly admit that most of the Americans in Benghazi were involved in a secret CIA effort that had not even been formally disclosed to the Libyan government.
To top it off, the president tried to rewrite history by claiming “the day after it happened, I acknowledged that this was an act of terrorism.” But he had actually said “act of terror”— in vague terms, usually wrapped in a patriotic fervor: “No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for.” In fact, immediately after the Rose Garden statement the day after the attacks, Obama sat down with Steve Kroft of “60 Minutes” and acknowledged that he had purposely avoided the using the word “terrorism.” (CBS did not release this clip until after the election.)
LOL
Act of terror
Act of terrorism
Semantics.
Meaningless semantics.
In your mind, maybe. Did you miss the part where Obama acknowledged that he had purposely avoided the using the word “terrorism”? The fact that CBS did not release this clip until AFTER the election should tell you something, if you are not blinded by smoke and mirrors.
“Any response by our military would have been an INVASION.” Do you mean like Reagan “invading” Grenada to rescue 1000 Americans, including 800 students. Or as Reagan put it, “…this was no invasion; it was a rescue mission.” But of course, this was when the U.S. had teeth and was not afraid to show them.
Based on your security clearance, I am sure that you attended many high level strategy meetings which were held to determine the best way to reach a predetermined objective/goal. In this case, the objective of any high level military personnel was to support the actions, or in this case, the LACK of actions by Obama and Clinton.
“The people in Benghazi refused additional security.” Not so quick.
The deteriorating security situation in Benghazi had been the subject of a meeting that embassy officials held Aug. 15, where they concluded they could not defend the U.S. diplomatic compound in Benghazi. The next day, the embassy drafted a cable outlining the dire circumstances and saying it would spell out what it needed in a separate cable which read, ““In light of the uncertain security environment, US Mission Benghazi will submit specific requests to US Embassy Tripoli for additional physical security upgrades and staffing needs by separate cover”. As a result of the cable, Ham phoned (not record of what was said), and Stevens reportedly declined security assistance.
Weeks later, Stevens visited Ham in Germany were he reportedly declined additional military assets. Of course, this comes from a defense official, who did not want to be identified, who said, “He didn’t say why. He just turned it down”.
The kicker: The offers of aid and Stevens’ rejection of them have NOT been revealed in either the State Department’s Administrative Review Board investigation of the Benghazi events or during any of the congressional hearings and reports that have been issued into what took place there.
Stevens’ deputy, Gregory Hicks, who might be expected to be aware of the ambassador’s exchange with military leaders, was NOT asked about the offer of additional assistance during his appearance before a House of Representatives committee, and testimony HAS NOT been sought from Ham, who is now retired. Both Hicks and Ham declined to comment on the exchange between Ham and Stevens. Don’t you think that if Stevens actually declined additional security, Ham would want the world to know that?
As far as my wife was concerned, a FBI agent went to my home town and spoke to friends, old teachers, and neighbors about ME. No questions about my wife were ask.
“…surprised at how much your wife knew.” My wife knew NOTHING about what I did in the Command Center, as I was specifically instructed to NOT discuss anything that went on in the Command Center outside the Command Center. In addition, I was precluded from travelling outside the continental U.S. for two years after I left that job.
Still makes you a stupid one of the group of socialist liberals.
Insult away.
Makes you a stupid one of the group of ignorant so-called conservatives.
Anyone who saw that video knew it was not, even REMOTELY responsible for Benghazi…I’ve seen 3rd graders do a better job of making a video!
You do not know very much about third-world, illiterate fanatics who are brainwashed by their religious leaders.
AK you have been brainwashed by Obama stupid ass
I was talking about the IDIOTS in this country. They swallowed that line, hook-line and sinker…..The people of THIS country who believed our gov’t and not the service men who were ready to go in for a rescue and were told to Stand Down……Our servicemen that had to continue to listen to what was going on in Benghazi and couldn’t help them. If they had gone against orders, they would have been court martialed. Please try to keep up.
There is quite a bit of confusion regarding Benghazi.
There have been many lies told.
The video did light some serious fires.
There was no physical action Obama could have taken. Stevens refused multiple offers of additional security. He believed that diplomacy was the right course. It was his decision to make.
You are a military man. You know as well as I do that putting military boots on the ground would have been an invasion of a sovereign nation.
Please read my comment concerning Grenada.
AK fool Who gave the order to stand down were the 4 CIA operatives lying when they said on national television that they were told to stand down. Informed with brains not an 80 IQ moron like the liberals of which you are one.
National television — you mean Faux News?
Get your numbers straight — was it 3, 4 or 5? Oh, and you have the rumor wrong.
“Five members of a private security team say an unidentified CIA station chief ordered them not to intervene”. [13 Hours: The Inside Account of What Really Happened In Benghazi by Mitchell Zuckoff]
You are a faux woman,.
Insult away.
Its your reputation you are damaging.
Truth absolutely hurts you liberals.
Ok.. Hillary Clinton aka Rotten Crotch is a thief and lying bitch.
More of those right-wing, childish, sexualized insults.
Grow up. Educate yourself,
You advertising your ignorance to the world.
AK I imagine you on your knees begging for more so you can lie
She promises the libs that she will have all the guns taken away.
See there she goes lying again
LOL… She’s a lyin’, lesbian, lib. ….and sometimes she avoids the truth .
Oh marine1944. Thank you for your service to our country.
Oh, the childish name calling.
No fact to offer, just an attempt to smear a reputation.
We got the message — you do not like Hillary. Jobs and the economy grew nicely under Bill. Maybe you should try remembering that.
Don’t you have anything of value to add to a conversation?
Yeh, ok. She avoids the truth ALL the time. She smears her own reputation. She doesn’t need help. She does it by herself.
It’s a fact that she lies.
Al was lying,
try getting your fact correct.
Why do you believe it is acceptable to lie?
I DON’T, but Hillary does.
She is anti second amendment. She and her part- time husband Bill stated that the U.S. constitution is too radical and the citizens have to many rights. Why does Hillary lie? It’s in her nature .
Why are you so gullible?
You need to be asking killery about that, she’s the master liar!
She is Miss Bobblehead…don’t believe me? Watch her as she takes questions (the soft kind)…she just can’t keep her head straight.
LOL True Janine./
This is a classic Clinton shakedown. She rails against “bad” businesses and threatens miscreant tycoons with taxation, regulation and nationalization, but the message is clear that those who kick in to the Clinton “Foundation” will be “good” businesses and will continue to receive crony deals, tax breaks or freedom from taxation altogether and government subsidies. The only losers in her plan are small business, which will be smothered, and the middle class, which will become completely dependent on the dole and will be eating out of the dumpsters like the Greeks within a year or two. She may very well be elected with the aid of Chicom and Soros billions and millions of illegal alien votes, and will be an unpopular and distrusted president of marginal legitimacy. When the economic you-know-what hits the fan, she and her controllers will probably respond with an authoritarian clampdown, and it is therefore possible that she will be the first president to face a revolution. Anyone who does not want to live in one-party third-world oligarchical Mexamericubazuela has got to fight this woman, who represents the greatest existential danger to our republic in its history.
You will have to get past me and more than half of the population first.
The NERVE that woman has! Policies to shake down a few millionaires and billionaires. Goodness gracious !
Thank God we have hordes of low income geniuses who will defend the rights of the rich until their dying breath.
Just another left wing promise, ‘we are going to take from you because “WE” know better than you about spending YOUR money”.
And take she will, likely 10% of net income after other taxation of the average incomer. The couching in that it has to be done, for the good of all, is getting so ridiculous one has to consider if the sheep will always walk to the slaughter house blindly.
Jobs are what needs addressing and real reporting on regulation growth from these these politicians that let Big Business write 80% of the regulations has to be done at some point.
We now have over 50% of all jobs being owned by Big Business and no one addresses how the middle is getting squeezed out, leaving us with more poor and more rich.. with less and less in the middle- where job growth has always depended on.
Hillary has chosen her ‘side’ on the issue and it isn’t for the middle class as she will load up the regulatory scheme another 50%.
“The way to crush the bourgeois (middle class) is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation.” Vladimir Ilyich Lenin
“There is only one way to kill capitalism – by taxes, taxes, and more taxes.” Karl Marx
It seems the Screeching Harpy Fellow Traveler has listened well to her mentors. If that witch gets back in the White House you can forget about freedom and liberty.
Lock and load.
MOLON LABE
Yeah! And Reagan and Bush’s plans that drove up the debt and the economy down were constructive!??!
Reagan was everything Obunghole is not.
You said it!
Reagan worked with Tip O’neill to get things done, this faux potus has it in his mind it is his way or the highway. Has your debt situation now Walter?
Yes, I did. And rather succinctly.
Yay America. Show the no believers the exit.
Yup – he was senile with Alzheimers, mentioned the word AIDS only once during his entire presidency – and had a gay son all of that time. He had a background in second rate movie roles versus an Ivy League law degree; had a monumental Contragate scandal, funded Al Qaeda when it was a fledging organization fighting the Soviets in Afghanistan, and evacuated our presence in the Lebanon after 400 marines were murdered. Oh – he staged a glorious campaign in rescuing Granada, a tiny island about the size of Georgetown, from the ravages of the peril of communism.
What you say is correct, but it just shows that a person with Alzheimer’s and who was a second rate movie actor can lead our country better than a person with an Ivy League law degree.
I guess we follow different standards. To be honest – there was really not much of a legacy left by Reagan excepting perhaps the roots of the current mess in the middle east – and the recession.
I know that republicans love to credit him with ending the cold war – but that horse had already left the barn when Reagan took office. The USSR was teetering on bankruptcy. The most devastating legacy was the use of deficit financing to fund government (i.e. massive debt) as described immense detail by David Stockman – his then budget director – and who has since recanted the policy as ghastly.
I believe it was Reagan who said, “Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall”. Guess what, the wall was torn down.
Do you mean, “…the use of deficit financing to fund government (i.e. massive debt)…”, like Obama is doing this has resulted in a national debt of $18.3 trillion, as compared to Reagan’s national debt of $2.9 when he left office?
Actually – all Obama did was to pay the debts that were already legally required to be paid.
2016 is very critical. If Hillary, or anyone that is even half way close to the same, is elected, this country is done. I think I am going to buy a new handgun today just to make myself feel better
Yeh. I just got a Ruger SP101 .357 for a carry piece. 2″ brl.
I did just that 2 days ago.
Good ’nuff Buddy. Shipmate. U.S.S. J.K.Taussig DE 1030.
USS Henry County (LST 824)
Great friend. God Bless..
Let’s hit the beach some night when we both have liberty. Hit the Porthole Bar in Subic Bay.
You got it Shipmate.
1903 Leigh Enfield .30 cal. They humanoid never see’s you killed him as his head explodes….
We cannot afford another Republican in the White House.
Two unfunded wars.
Doubled thw national debt.
Made more world enemies.
Job losses of 1 million a month…
You need to turn in your glass crack pipe.
Are you going to put on the uniform?
Talk to me, oh right wing conservative, who knows everything.
How many am I supposed to bury?
Ahhhhh “are you going to put on the uniform?”. Was that from page 23 of your libturd response book?
I lost a husband in that Iraq.
I have a son in Afghanistan.
You are an idiot.
Unfortunately for you not many will believe anything you say. Simply because you are an ass. Try starting tomorrow off being normal.
Normal?
Lying is what you consider normal?
Hate is what you consider normal? …
I am a Christian.
I am an adult.
You might want to try being both once in awhile.
Your friend Hillary lies.
I am truly sorry about your husband and may God look over you son in Afghanistan.
I hope your son stays safe.
I hope we never have to bury as many service members as we did during the Vietnam conflict. Which, by the way was started by Kennedy – a Democrat, continued by Johnson – a Democrat, and ended by Nixon – a Republican. And, yes, I put on the Marine Corps uniform for 20 years, with two tours in South Vietnam.
TY for your service usmc. My uniform wouldn’t fit anymore. LOL
Neither will mine.
I believe it is a combo crack piped and dildo.
We can’t afford another Democrat! The unborn are crying out to God…as they are killing them and selling their body parts! Thanks to the Dems…we are back to the days of Sodom and Gomorrah!///We have a pres who is making deals with terrorists and has the white house filled with muslims…..and then displays skittles on the white house for rainbow week! Enough is Enough!
A democrat just gave Iran the bomb.
Hillary Clinton could have saved all of us a lot of time and just gave us the full condensed version.
That version is as follows: RAISE TAXES. end of economic package.
Infrastructure is not free.
However, repairing it will provide jobs.
Well…. what would anyone expect from this evil militant lefty Marxist who will not tell the truth about anything. “Hillarious”, “Hitlery”, “Killery” whatever you wish to call her, swims in a cesspool of lies, deceit and has not one ounce of integrity…. no one can think of a single accomplishment she has either, well… except for leaving four Americans to die in Benghazi. She has built her life upon a foundation of radical liberal sand and that will be gone with the shifting winds. Then, she’ll try something else…. that’s what the weirdo left does… no veracity or solid standing whatsoever! Everything is relative….. no truth… no foundation!
This ol hex is stupid to think that when wages go up prices will stay the same. When you live on a unlimited budget who cares what prices are. Instead of wages let’s have more jobs first then will wages increase. Her dumb asses speech must of been written by a union person.
I think you should make Donald Trump your model. Its probably only slightly less difficult to be like him than to win the Power ball lottery.
I’m voting for Trump.
Same poop different lib dem
If a Republican does it, even if results in over 100,000 dead, it a a good thing. If it comes from a Republican, it is terrible.
United we stand, divided we fail.
The right-wing is destroying America.
You have GOT to be delusional. A person who Won’t see, can see no better than one who Can’t see!
NO BODY votes for Hillary Obama 2.0.We DON’T need another SOCIALIST like Obama trying to destroy our country.Also
remember this,Bernie Sanders is ALSO a self proclaimed SOCIALIST.We don’t need any of that crap running our country
into the GROUND anymore than it already is.I don’t care if you are a liberal,republican,conservative or what ever you
filed as,in order for this country to get back on it’s feet,we MUST vote for someone who will do the best for the country
and her people!
No, we need another Baby Bush, two unnecessary wars, another 100,000+ dead, doubled national debt…
You failed to mention that those “two unnecessary wars” were supported by Democrat members of Congress, including Clinton AND Kerry. You also failed to mention that Obama is projected to again double our national debt by the time he leaves office from $10,1 trillion to an estimated $20+ trillion.
Are you kidding me?The last Bush we had in office got us deeper into debt than the president before him.ALL BUSHES
HAVE AN AGENDA!AN AGENDA WE DON’T WANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LIEberals do not run on logic. They run on the “feel good” about themselves platform. That is why they think you making $15 an hour is a good idea.
Never mind the business will close down or more people are out of work than ever before. The point is at least you made $15 an hour slapping burgers and what a story to tell your grandchildren! How’s that for a “feel good” story???
Well hang in there – we shall soon find out. You may have to change your avatar to ‘Ignorant Comment’.
Lieberal ALERT!
Lieberal already trying to feel good.
Da Hitlery’s economic plan – feed inflation and devalue the dollar.
Hang in there AKLady, you’ve got them In a factual corner.
No doubt the Hilderbeest fancies herself to be an expert economist.
Does this surprise anyone on the right? Hardly. I hope you liberals are happy to know she plans to continue in Obama’s shoes.
Hillary is an ex-lawyer, an ex first lady and ex Secretary of State, an ex NY State senator and failed at everyone. She has been lying most of her adult life, involved in various immoral scheme’s and has the exact same ideology as Obama. She will follow his lead into disaster yes the disaster that Obama has created. His legacy? I don’t care how long you live it will never change to anything other as the worst President in the world. I don’t believe he doesn’t know what he is doing, it is just not good for America, just for our enemy’s and Black/Hispanics. Sad we let him do it, and he’ll have no regrets, as jerks ask him to speak at meetings after he is finally out of office. (sounds good)
REMEMBER BENGHAZI, “What difference does it make? “It was a reaction to an anti-muslim film. After all of that, she wants us to trust her? She has proven she can’t be trusted by her past performances.
we need to understand clearly that literal ” parasites ” like hillary clinton….plan to completely disarm the united states except for the political dip sh-ts and loyalists that support her.
adding guns to prohibition and the war on drugs is counter intuitive, to the principles of freedom – during prohibition prices go up, taxes go up, crime and violence go up and federal corruption sky rockets.
allowing this communist to add guns to create an even bigger black market not only assures who will and will not , be organized and able to defend themselves in the near future – but it is an absolute insult to the intelligence of the american people.
we have all seen this before under the prohibition of alcohol – and it is much more logical to fund the states and education by controlling these markets through legalization and regulation – forcing prices down, taxes down, violence and crime down and government corruption suppressed – rather than being destroyed by them as a result of society refusing to take control and define our own future.
it is time for america to stand up together and take control – we cant afford to wait for somebody else to do this stuff for us, to solve all our problems for us – because if we wait on somebody else- it’ll never get done…..
but if we pave the way, however – by standing together – all of them together cant stop us and it gives our candidates the leverage they need for us to be successful….that’s what we call team work.
when we start doing what this administration tells us to do – wether through force, fear mongering or whatever – thats when you know your under control….however, we can expand exponentially “in seconds” by simply understanding that victory “always” favors the bold…civil disobedience – this administration can not function without the support of society and as we work together it will allow us’, to isolate and target – rather than being targeted…… it is the difference between offense and defense.
society “should not” be held hostage to every political whim and whatever arbitrary command the megalomaniacs in office feel like this week – as a result of society allowing its self to be boxed in.
its time to end the war on drugs, the prohibition of guns and the black markets they create.