A typically condescending Barack Obama says that Republican voters can be convinced by conservative media to vote for Ron DeSantis, even if they don’t like him.

The former president says that conservative media has “a lock” on GOP voters, and that they would support Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, but said that they might not “have a great time” interacting with him as he discussed his opinion on the differences between the nomination processes of GOP and Democratic candidates in a recent podcast.

He implied that Democrats vote for the candidates they most likely would want to sit down and have a beer with, while GOP voters go for the candidates endorsed by Fox and other right-leaning news outlets and talk radio hosts.

During a recent episode of “Pod Save America,” Obama spoke glowingly of Pennsylvania Democratic Senate nominee John Fetterman before pivoting to the ways in which GOP voters vet politicians running within their party.

Obama said that while Fetterman — who’s locked in a highly consequential Senate race against Republican Mehmet Oz — was able to relate to a wide swath of voters, he said that Republicans don’t always tap candidates who are seen as relatable to average voters.

The former president said that most people could interact with Fetterman in a diner and be able to converse with him even if they disagreed with him because the Democratic candidate “cares about people” and has “a point of view that was informed by his real-life experiences.”

“Those qualities don’t seem to always apply to successful Republican candidates,” Obama told hosts Jon Favreau, Dan Pfeiffer, Jon Lovett, and Tommy Vietor, all former Obama staffers. “What’s going on there? I don’t know exactly.”

The former president continued, “But I suspect, and I’ve talked to you guys about this before … again, it’s the degree to which conservative media just has a lock on how people are presented.

The dominant narratives there are so powerful that people will vote for DeSantis even if I’m not sure that they would really have a great time.”

Favreau said in response, “He does not seem like a lot of fun.”

Obama replied, “Hanging out with that guy.”

Favreau then poked at DeSantis again, calling him “Trump without the charisma.