It has been sad to see the swift and spineless capitulation of our nation’s Christians to the atheist agenda. For the last decade, Christians have come under a steady persecution the likes of which have never been seen in American history. Liberals, with their twisted view of the Constitution, believe they are standing up for the First Amendment. And because few are brave enough to challenge them, they are winning by default.
At least one man is not going down without a fight. He is Superintendent Michael Gilbert of White Oak, Texas. Gilbert is being pressured by an atheist group called the Freedom From Religion Foundation to take action against Principal Dan Noll of White Oak High School. Mr. Noll, you see, has been subjecting his school to the horror of a Bible verse each morning in the announcements.
Under almost any other circumstances, one would expect a quick apology from the superintendent. One meant to avoid legal troubles. We expect this because it’s what we get time after time. We recently saw it when a Florida student was admonished for saying “God bless America,” to conclude his own morning announcements. If uttering a nondenominational, historically patriotic phrase like that is a violation of the establishment clause, surely there can be no room for a Bible verse.
But Gilbert is standing firm. He responded to the Foundation defiantly. “I’m sorry you feel that way,” he said in a statement. “I will be praying for you and your staff daily.”
Wow! That’s the kind of backbone we should see more of. It has been disheartening to see so many Christians abandon their faith in the effort to get along and keep the boat afloat. To see one with the courage of his convictions is like finding a rare diamond among a thousand cubic zirconia.
We the People
What Gilbert realizes is that this country is what we make of it. So often, traditionalists, conservatives, and Christians are content to complain. Content to watch as liberals infect one area of our American life after another, marginalizing our viewpoints until they seem extreme and outdated. But while the media portrays the country in certain ways – buoyed by misleading polls that give exactly the answers the pollsters are looking for – the reality is something far different.
The majority of us do not like what Obama has done to this country. We do not approve of the way Christianity has been whitewashed from our culture and history. We are the people that made American Sniper the number one box office hit of 2014. We are the people who still believe that the American flag means something.
Unfortunately, we are watching our values being flushed away. We shake our heads, as if government is something separate from us. We cringe at the growing federal authority, the anti-American trends, and the slow but sure turn away from God. But we do so little about it.
This country can be exactly what we want it to be. But it’s not going to be easy. It’s going to take the bravery of men like Michael Gilbert.
But isn’t it worth it?
This article rings a bell and hits home. we have sat on the sidelines allowing the boisterous crowd intimidate us to silence. Jesus said to confess Him before men and He would confess before His Father, but also went on to say if we deny Him before men He would deny us. we should not be ashamed of the Gospel of Christ for It is the power of salvation to everyone that believes
This apologetic attitude and compromise has been going on now for at least three generations. It’s sickening that Christian and non-Christian conservatives have bent over backwards to be “nice” to the enemy. Christians have been indoctrinated by the leftist pseudo-Christians to believe that that is what God wants. It’s a shame that more Christians don’t understand that GOD wants us to fight evil NOT accept it!
Face the evil one he will flee from you. For the fight belongs to God. Seek God while he is near.
Is this another bible quote? BORING!!!!!
I try awfully hard to convince others, maybe you are the one in doubt.
What’s the matter with you? Just because you like whining on line is no reason in the world to call the Bible boring. It’s definitely not boring, but beautiful. I don’t give a rats ass what you believe. Why do you feel it’s necessary to act like a real tool in opinion sections. YOU, girl, bore me. More if the same liberal/athiest crap the Dumborats are spewing at the behest of that illegal alien from Indonesia via Kenya, and the criminal behavior of the dems. smh
The bible is so… fucking boring!! Beautiful my ass!! One of the most violent books ever written . YOU, little Connie, bore me, with your religious bullshit!! Wishful thinking. That’s all it is. Nothing more. Now, go suck on a communion wafer. LOL!!! SO MUCH GULLIBILITY!!!!
Jam it, moron!!!!!!! Crawl back under your rock and continue to sip your commie, regressive kool-aid.
Kunling: Are you another example of the
great Christians who show up at this site?
Are you another example of the leftist, inclusive , caring non-believer?
Dikeboy ignores the worst post here. “Oh I see, youre a goat fucking troll, no brains just a mouth so you can suck horse cock” hypocritical moron.
Oh I see, youre a goat fucking troll, no brains just a mouth so you can suck horse cock
So well put!! LMFAO!!!
Gosh, you guys certainly have a command of the English language. Clearly you can’t think your way out of a paper bag.
If the Bible is boring, you must be dead.
Sooner or later, you’ll get fed up with the tramp Faye..
I’ve read the Bible all the way through a number of times (okay, so I skipped the begats after the second time) and I have found that the Bible does have some truly beautiful passages and uplifting messages in it.
The Bible does, however, also contain some truly twisted thinking — such as that a man who rapes a woman in a field must marry her — woman’s choice, of course, being irrelevant; and such as kill a disobedient son. There are sacrifices and people being stoned to death and instructions to be an obedient slave. It matters not that some of the worst ideas are in the Old Testament. The Creation message is also in the Old Testament and embracing “The Bible” embraces its contents in its entirety.
As a child attending Sunday School and Bible School, Bible literature was sanitized for children. The Book of Job somehow was interpreted as a lesson in patience. It is not. It is a story about S&M and the sadist is not Job.
It’s not that Christians are being persecuted; it’s that the zealots among them are finally feeling the pushback against the zealots’ own efforts to use, misues, and abuse the full force and power of government to impose their “values” on others and pushback against their efforts to indoctrinate generation after generation of blind faith believers, including in public schools where there is already little enough time spent learning the skills needed to succeed in life.
The New Testament wipes out many of the old rules from the Old Testament. Your interpretation is one I’m not familiar with. Remember that nothing happens to us that God doesn’t allow to happen. Satan bragged that he could “break” Job if God gave him somuch time. When God said “Enough” he blessed him mightily as recompense.
The New Testament doesn’t “wipe out many of the old rules from the Old Testament”; either someone embraces “the Bible”, which is embracing both Testaments or someone could embrace either one or the other, such as just the New Testament and reject the Old testament. Anyone that is picking and choosing which pieces of either to accept or reject is actually just using those pieces to support their own agenda — which is why the “holy books” were all created by men to begin with. Christian fundamentalists in the US use the Creation story in the Old Testament to reject science but then want to pick and choose from the rest of the Old Testament as they did to support slavery, as they’re trying to do so to support bigotry, as they have done to insist that men should be dominant over women.
Whether or not there is any God, religion — every flavor of it — is man made and with the authors’ purposes being to “guide”, “teach”, “lead” and or outright control the lives of others. That is still the agenda of zealots of all flavors of religion all over the world and all those con artists that, for all intents and purposes, say, “give your money to God; send your check to me”, even taking money from the elderly, disabled and the poorest of the poor whenever they can in order to live very well themselves.
Zbell: I’m very much on board with your response, but I as I am typing this, I am also reading part of the response by KLHG which I see just below here.
“The New Testament wipes out many of the old
rules.” That is why I say that I am a follower of
Jesus, rather than the Bible. There is much good in the Old Testament, but the ultimate message seems to be vengeance and wrath. And in my opinion the very conservative Christians of today seem to be stuck in the Old Testament and only remember Jesus on Easter and Christmas.
That is why I was so completely appalled by the
column on this site about the woman who interrupted the Islam Conference and went away believing she had done God’s work. No, God does God’s work. And she missed any chance of converting someone in that crowd to
Christianity. Rather she would have made those in the crowd stronger in their own faith.
I thought this column was about a principal in a school, not about whatever it was that happened in Austin at a Muslim parade (?). I didn’t read anything about that in the article.
Strange that you should say what you did about the book of Job. When my wife was slowly dying and there was nothing that I could do to spare her, I found the words of Job, “The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away, blessed be the name of the Lord,” to be of great comfort. Sorry you see things as you do; I think you are missing some important points.
And this is the book that Christians get their morals from? HOLY SHIT!!
I would guess you get your morals from the Koran! Ha Ha Ha What a dunce.
Where do your morals come from Faye or do you have any?
K. O. Duane: Is this a column about the Bible or
about promoting one’s own religious beliefs in a
public school?
dutch, i took bible in school , old testament and new testament, it was not state suppoprted and was funded by donations, it was a great class. im so glad i took it.
Sandy: My siblings did too. It wasn’t available
when I was in school. That was a while ago .
I come from a very small town in the Midwest. Back
then prayer was allowed in public schools. But it
was never done in ours. I wouldn’t be surprised
if it was because the parents would suspect the
prayer of the Lutheran teacher, or if they were
Lutherans, then those of the Methodist teacher,
ditto the Reformed parents. And the Catholics,
well, they were so few in number they had to go out
of town to go to church. Though we still had
meatless Fridays every week because of them.
By the way, back then, the infidels were the Catholics.
And one of the very few people who were Catholics
in that town was one of my best friends. But I was
only allowed to run around with her because she
didn’t have a brother my age.
It’s about giving children the guidance they need to become productive, trustworthy and happy adults. You don’t get any of that out of thin air.
K. Q. Duane: I see. And if you were preaching to my little ones, what message
would you give them about the girls’ place in society?
Why don’t you ask that feminist , faye.
You got something against feminists? If you do, then I have
something against you.
I have something against any bunch that strong arms their beliefs with threats, boycotts, marches. Go and burn your bra dikeboy!
Faye you obviously do not under stand the Bible. It has love stories, travels, teachings, songs murder. You need to have some one read it to you that understands it
Elizabeth, you obviously do not under ( sic) stand that this is 1 word , not 2. You repeated the same mistake with the word someone. You may know your bible, but you need to brush up on your spelling. Songs murder ?? I’ not familiar with songs, but genocide & murder. There is plenty of that in your bible. Does The Old Testament ring a bell ?
Stupid songs are prose put to music, they are all in the Bible.
Dont forget the incest. I wonder how many christians men have relations with their daughters and then justify it by stating Lot had children with his daughters.
Michael: Why don’t you stick to some facts, like
all that information you gave us about what a waste
of time college is?
That too. Along with Genocide, murder, slavery, rape, animal sacrifice, stoning your children for disobeying you. I could go on & on…. What a wonderful book to curl up with on a cold night. I think I would rather have a cup of tea. LOL!!!
You just stupidly cited the actions muSLIMES do every day in the middle east. You left out beastiallity.
I suggest you go have your cup of tea, and not spout your ignorance here.
Like Muslim me rape their sons?
Christians do not condone the rape of anyone unlike your sick interpretation of your own religion.
Like Catholic Priests raping little boys ? The Catholic Church most certainly condones it. These priest are never brought to justice & The Catholic Church just covers it up & this makes them just as guilty as these disgusting pedophiles who are allowed to continue their perversions. Double standard ? You bet there is!!! Last time I checked, Catholics are part of The Christian Religion. Think before you speak, idiot!!
Catholics don’t condone it but the priests do get away with it, granted, not the rest of catholics or non catholic christians.
Muslims not only practice it but condone it as well.
Think before you speak.
Thank you for taking care of this one,. you did a great job.
I do get lucky some times don’t I. Lol
Not lucky, pure talent. Now doesn’t that sound better. Don’t cut yourself short.
She is one of the worst. I must say you did very well with her. She is always looking to pick an argurnent. Nasty person to boot.
Thanks Elaine, you always have a positive and supportive way about you.
I should have your patience.
I always try to be respectful and do so up until the point where the aggressor just isn’t going to stop. Then I find that the only way to back them off is the testosterone bull charge.
I have gotten myself away from trading name calling and just evolved to using shaming and light belittling. Sometimes it works and they back off, others get even worse and I just move on to ignoring them.
I tend to lean toward out smarting the smart a$$es and make them look foolish but sometimes they’re just to dumb to realize they’re being out smarted. Lol
Oh, yes you are smart!!! And funny too. As for patience I have to practice that a lot it doesn’t come easy . but it is a necessary thing, if you want to keep people and friends happy. I think you are doing pretty good on that. just keep up the good work. and always tell the truth. that is what I was told by god and my teacher. and so far it has worked for me. I love the last sentence. That is perfect.
You’re pretty darn good in your own right
Thank you so much, sometimes my family thinks I am funny. but they will never tell me. they will go in another room and giggle. but that is ok. I don’t really know when I am being funny I just say what I am thinking. but thanks again .
The Muslim religion does not condone rape and it is
an offense that can be punished by death.
There this bitch goes trying to blame the priests for what daddy did to her, and her brother, and cousins, and nelhews, and dogs, and horses, shes passing alot of blame on the priests for being a used up tattered ass fuck puppet for her relatives just to get dropped off at the abortion clinic where she has her own room. Take responsibility for your actions dont blame others whorebag
The Bible doesn’t “justify” Lot having children with his daughters.
Yes, the Bible deals with the world in all of its fallenness. Perhaps you need to read both Testaments, so you are familiar with both the “problem” and the “solution”.
It’s pretty obvious you can’t spell for shit!! Understand is 1 word, not 2. You made the same mistake in your third sentence. Someone is 1 word, not 2. Too much time spent in that old & fictional book you call the bible. A dictionary is so full of knowledge, unlike that bible that you love so much. The word of god?? LOL!!!
If you truly believe the bible is factual, YOU must be brain dead.
And just where do you get your “facts”? From the “Communist Manifesto”?
D.N.C. web site.
STICK IT IN YOUR EAR, LOSER!!!
Stay in the bedroom where you do your best work! Whore!
YOU need to stay out of the bedroom indefinitely. You couldn’t get that limp dick of yours hard if your life depended on it! INCOMPETENT LOSER!!!
Ah, a truly “educated” response.
the heart is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked.
And why don’t you go “suck an egg”, or shut your “claptrap”! No one wants to hear your perverted version of boring OR beautiful. If you can’t find anything good to say, then say nothing- -it’s much more becoming. We’ll pray for you too, so get over it.
Madmemere: “Are you another example of the
great Christians who show up at this site?”
Are you another example of the leftist, inclusive , caring non-believer.?
Osama: I am a believer.
Another labotimized creature.
“Another labotimized creature.”
Sorry, you are wrong.
In what?
In what? Presuming that you are asking me what I believe
in, check out the note I just wrote to Osama Obama.
(Isn’t that a wildly clever name for our President. And so
grown up too)
AWWW! I’m so insulted. Go stick your finger in that dike, Ohillary!
Ohillary!
At last. A compliment. Thank you.
Hey dyke boy, where ya been, I need someone to beat up, though you are a pretty easy target! LMAO!!
Are you another example of the leftist, inclusive , caring non-believer.?
A believer in Obuma Skuma?
Bob Sims: “A believer in Obuma Skuma?”
I try not to revert to childish playground language. But yes,
I am a believe in Obama and his principles. I am a believer
in the leftist way of thinking and doing?
And I am a Christian. I don’t remember God ever telling
me to go out and see how much money I can make, or how
much of what I do make I should be able to keep for myself,
I don’t remember God telling me to hate, but rather to love.
Yes, I’m quite sure, the central message of Christ is to
love and to help one’s neighbor. I’m sticking with that
message.
I always knew it. Another Ovomit lover and a left wing commie… No way dipshit, can you even be close to a Christian and an Ovomit lover too. What a damned hypocrite!!
Anyone who believes in the leftist agenda is NO Christian. In all of the scripture God told us to fight evil, not partner with it
Luke 22:36 – Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one. God destroyed the enemy numerous times, or supported those engaged in destroying them. Satan and his followers are not righteous in the eyes of God.
God taught us to be self sufficient and not to be a burden to others. You are NOT a Christian, you are a false prophet.
Anyone who believes in the leftist agenda is NO Christian. In all of
the scripture God told us to fight evil, not partner with it
Well, sorry, but you are wrong. But perhaps you would like to
share with me first what you think the leftist agenda is and then how it goes against the teachings of the Bible.
Funny I don’t remember the part that says you should kill babies or that men should marry men or women marry women. Oh that’s right Obama said it was ok…… That makes it ok.
David: I don’t remember that the Bible says anything at
all about abortion, so it must not be the gravest of sins.
And Obama, nor anyone else, said that men SHOULD
marry men. And in fact I’m not sure that anyone took a
vote on that one. It has been entirely decided in the courts
as far as I know.
The Bible doesn’t say anything about racism either. But
we do know that God created all people and that we are
to love all people. Would you please tell me how the
Democrats perpetuate racism? Would it go something
like this? We approve of food stamps, and black people
use food stamps, provided by your hard earned tax
dollars, so therefore we are complicit in promoting
racism in the United States. Sound about right to you?
Dutch you don’t remember because you haven’t opened one. You justify abortion be convincing yourself that what you are killing is not a live person. The Bible addresses life in the womb in dozens of places.
Obama didn’t say they should get married he did say that he approved of gay marriage. That of course was after he said he was against it.
The democrats promote racism through a history of keeping Blacks dependent on government all along telling them that republicans don’t care about them. Who are you going to vote for.
Frankly I don’t care about any of this. I am against abortion but if you want one go ahead have fun but live with it afterwards. I am not gay but if you are I don’t care. Just don’t tell me I have to approve of either one. As far as democrats promoting racism you already know its true and it is just a voting game. It is no different than amnesty for illegals. If you think democrats really care and it is naïve.
I’m sorry but your response is a racist response. Our action
is not. You can read what you want into it, but you are just
trying to cover up your own sins.
I was once against the idea of gay marriage also, as was
Obama. We changed our minds. In part, for me it is because of the civil rights issue. I don’t know about the adoption of kids yet except to say that we will know in a couple of decades how that is working out. What I do know is the very sad state of affairs among straights – the lack of marriage, the lack of fidelity, going it completely alone once the kid is born. I have known two guys personally who married other guys. I didn’t know either of them well. I worked with them. Neither adopted.
I have also heard of only 3 people (entertainers) that I can
think of who have married and had kids – Neil Patrick Harris, Sean Maher, and Elton John. They all seem to
be dedicated parents who are in long term, committed
marriages. More so than most straight entertainers.
As a legal issue, it pretty much comes down to this, for me.
People these days have sex when they want it and can get
it, whether straight or gay. So no one is giving them
permission to have it. And all sorts of people have
children biologically who are also gay. That really isn’t
all that hard to do and to make it happen. So what we
are actually saying is that you too can have a “partner”
who can inherit your pensions and SS, who can make
decisions about your life if you become incapacitated,
who you can share tax forms with, who must deal with
you when making life altering decisions. We also acknowledge that it is a biological situation, not a choice.
Oh please Dutch tell me how I am racist. My God you people love labels. Racism is simply a tool for you people. I just love those of you that say anyone that disagrees with the president is racist.
As I said I really don’t care who is gay. It is not my choice but if it is yours have fun. I have gay friends and coworkers black friends and coworkers and have dated several black women so take your best shot Dutch. I know it makes it much easier for people like you if you can just toss up Racist, Homophobe, Sexist and so on.
As for your last statement whether or not a person has gay feelings may or may not be a choice however acting on those feeling is a choice. Would you also say the pedophilia is a biological situation? There are studies that claim that it is a life choice no different than homosexuality.
“tell me how I am racist. My God you people love labels. Racism is simply a tool for you people.”
“The democrats promote racism through a history of keeping Blacks
dependent on government all along telling them that republicans don’t
care about them.”
It is our tool! That is what you are saying? We love it
that you are racist!
Nice try.
Well Dutch you have now proven yourself a typical uninformed socialist.. You don’t know me if you think I am racist nor anything about Conservatives or the Christian faith. I really thought you had a little intelligence but you are just another brainwashed troll. You can post whatever you like now because I will not waist anymore time with people like you.
Would you also say the pedophilia is a biological situation?
I don’t know if pedophilia is a biological situation or not.
What I do know is that the potential victim is underaged
and not in a position (either psychologically or physically)
to make their own decision about the events.
By the way, the Bible does say something about “murder”. And abortion is the murder of the child in the womb.
The central message of Christ is to believe i Him as God’s only Son.
In that case, never mind. You are unable to KNOW the truth. Too damn stupid.
But I am able to know the truth. And I am also able to figure
out who needs their mouth washed out with soap.
And you do not realize how un-Christian you are.
she is right, though
Do you have a point?
Dutch… SHUT THE FUCK UP, HUH ??
And why don’t you go “suck an egg”, or shut your “claptrap”! No one wants to hear your perverted version of boring OR beautiful.
Words to ponder, wouldn’t you say?
I would suggest that to you based on the tenor of your post. Say nothing and pray.
Sadly, whether you believe it or not YOU will make an accounting of your life to God…and it will NOT be pretty!
God please open this liberal fool’s eyes to Your Light!
Carolskey: I don’t think that God gave you the
right to decide what Faye Hayes’ or anyone else’s
fate will be. Why don’t you do what YOU are
supposed to do and be a good and appealing
Christian so that Ms. Hayes and others might want
to take a second look at what Jesus’ teachings
have to offer the world.
Would you send a child to prison for stealing a lollipop or spank a murderer for his actions? Clearly, the answer is “No!” to both questions. Likewise entrenched and recalcitrant non-believers need a kind but completely truthful answer that MIGHT get them to contemplate their actions and words. Clearly Faye is at an extreme regarding her unbelief and she is not a child. Jesus explained it that there comes a time to speak the harsh truth:
“Though I have been speaking figuratively, a time is coming when I will no longer use this kind of language but will tell you plainly about my Father.”~John 16:25.
No one knows the depth of another’s faith and relationship with God nor can they assume their ultimate fate. All that we know is what words they use and what actions they take. And I took Faye at her words and assessed her foolishness. If someone doesn’t care enough to TRY and lead the lost…who will? I would not want her to end up with the following response from our Lord:
“But I will reply, ‘I never knew you. Get away from me, you who break God’s laws.'”~Matthew 7:23.
Now, to you…why don’t you try and HELP the lost instead of re-Christianizing, correcting or chastising those who are actually trying to impact the thoughts of non-Christians? This work is hard enough without having to deal with sanctimonious Christians who KNOW the ONLY WAY to opening the eyes of the lost…please lend a hand in help instead of to punish!
God Bless!
Careful girl, Judge Dutch and Faye seem to be related, at least in their attack on ANYONE! lol
God bless…and I am protected from any devilish ways. Thanks for the warning!
Michael – are the sissy that decided to take a hike
yesterday.
What????
Was there something I said that you couldn’t
understand?
“Michael – are the sissy that decided to take a hike yesterday.”…..Michael is one person..did you mean “Michael is the sissy?…You are a product of common core edumacation. Ha Ha Ha!!
Careful Dutch. Michael is a good example of someone who is so brainwashed by his indoctrination into a religious cult better known as Christianity. His racist bigotry has caused him to live in fear of everyone & everything. Read some of the hateful comments he has posted on other forums. Then I think you will understand where he is coming from.
Didn’t take long for the “progressive” accusation to froth forth. Try to form a sentence without the Democrat catch word, “Racist”.
I call it as I see it. A spade is a spade. You & your buddy, Michael Dimwitz are racist bigots. To add insult to injury, you claim to be Christians. What a joke!! Your hypocrisy is showing & you wear it very well!!
Hey dimbulb obama leg huncher!!! Cut and paste one racist word anyone has posted. You can’t cause like obama and dikeboy dutch, YOU ARE A LIAR!!!! That flannel shirt looks good on you!!!
Careful, Faye. Jesus Himself said “Judge not that ye be not judged, for in the manner that you judge others, you also will be judged.” Be careful that you may not see so clearly to “call a spade a spade.”
“The bible is so… fucking boring!! Beautiful my ass!! One of the most
violent books ever written . YOU, little Connie, bore me, with your
religious bullshit!! Wishful thinking. That’s all it is. Nothing more.
Now, go suck on a communion wafer. LOL!!! SO MUCH GULLIBILITY!!!!” WOW dude!!Such vitriol, frothing at the mouth, rainbows and unicorns. LibTURDS and atheists shat their pants at the mention of God, Bible, Christianity, yet a tingle runs down their leg at the mention of allah, satanism or 75 virgins. Pathetic.
WAIT, FAYE YOU HAVE THE GUTS TO POINT FINGERS AT SOMEONE FOR HATEFUL COMMENTS. ARE YOU SERIOUS?
Carolsky: Did you forget who you were addressing
in your last paragraph?
I’m not a proselytizer. I live in the United States; I live
and have lived in areas of the United States were
Christianity is a common denominator. My neighbors
know the story. I hope to make them welcome in
the church and in the society if they, for one reason
or another, have left it. Community is probably the
single most important thing in hanging on to one’s
faith.
Using the example of the person who decided to
interrupt the gathering of Muslims in Austin, I
wanted puke when I saw it. Exactly, what was
Christian about this meeting? Some idiot standing
up and telling the crowd how awful they were.
Is this how you win souls to Christ. Here’s a
clue (the answer is no, never). It is very much
akin to the crowd throwing a shoe at President
Bush and then saying “please join our Muslim
community.” Just how dumb can people be?
But then the Muslims weren’t trying to convert
Bush and this woman wasn’t try to convert the
Muslims. In fact, she was telling them that they
were the enemy (a term I seen a lot on this
site) and get out of my sight.
As for knowing how to convert someone to
Christianity – trust in God. I also know how not
to convert someone to Christianity. Act like
that woman who decided to make the meeting
her place to be the center of attention.
Can you honestly say that you don’t see it?
Do you honestly think that she was trying, much
less succeeding, in converting anyone? She was,
plain and simple, telling those people she hates
their religion, and along with that, them.
You sure love to prattle on don’t you! Islam is the religion of peace HUH?? You and Faye don’t take the miscreant muSLIMES to task do you!?
Osama: Did I say Islam is the religion of peace?
Read it again. P..S. your “osama obama” and muslimes
are juvenile in the extreme.
Yeah? It got your pink panties in a bunch didn’t it. Why are you spewing and frothing here, taking folks to task for believing in a God that is loving instead of Allah who advocates the killing of “non-believers”. Ah, such inclusive, rainbows and unicorns, leftist machinations….Are you another example of the leftist, inclusive , caring non-believer?.
Sure looks like he is doesn’t it?
Those who believe the bible is the answer are just as foolish. When Bad things happen to me it is because I did something to bring it on myself. I do not get arrested for an arbitrary reason or because God decided I should. It is because I did something to bring it on myself. Those who believe Jesus are going to come and save them are simply giving up agency to some being that may or may not exist. I would rather my children spend their time learning something useful like Algebra than about the cardinal sins.
You want to know how original the bible is look at the names of the demons in Christianity. They are all named after the kings, god and mythology of the babylonians and Assyrian gods. Ashtaroth is the Babylonian Ishtar. Marduk was a babylonian god as was Belial, Baal, and beezelbub. The fallen angels fell because they taught humans how to work with metal and use fire. Christianity is just a form of propaganda used to demonize those who do not think as they do.
Very bad things very often happen to the youngest and most helpless children who have certainly NOT done anything to “bring it on” themselves, so your rationale is totally absurd. The Book of Job reveals that Job, though faithful, was tormented by his God. That is not a “lesson in patience” as the sanitized children stories insist; that is S&M and the sadist is not Job.
If you had read Job, Sue, then you would have known that Satan tormented Job, not God. By the way, blasphemy is not taken lightly in the Bible.
The biblical definition of God includes that God is ever present, all knowing, all powerful and is the Creator of ALL that exists.
IF there is any God, the Creator of ALL that exists, then it would have created any and ALL DEVILS as well as ALL potential and ALL propensity for ALL evil and any ALL knowing and ever present and ALL powerful God would then have WATCHED every instance of child abuse and/or neglect and/or molestation and/or rape that has ever occurred throughout ALL of human history, with the power to prevent such things but did not.
I have read the Book of Job, however, I’m not relying just on my interpretation of what I read. I grew up in the Bible Belt being taught that Job was tested by God and that the response of Job to that test of God was a lesson in patience for all children to follow. I was also taught that nothing happens that is not known to God or that God has not allowed to happen. If God exists, then it is one more vile and sadistic nonhuman thing.
Ever heard of “free will”? God granted all of HIs creatures free will. That resulted in some pretty bad decisions being made. Of course, God has granted free will to you, even to blaspheme Him. You grew up in the Bible Belt? Sorry you have such a twisted view of God and the Bible.
Any Creator of ALL would also have “created” any “free will” given to anyone and everyone.
Being all knowing, such a Creator would have known exactly what tests each free will would meet — ever — and how each and every free will would respond.
Being all powerful, that Creator would have made each free will exactly as intended. This includes any of my free will to believe or not believe religion.
Religion, every flavor of it, and regardless of what “holy” text upon which it is supposedly based IS man made — each “holy text”, however inspired, was interpreted and was written and published and edited by men, to be interpreted by men.
Religion, every flavor of it, is a MAN MADE power tool fueled by fear and need and greed — each created to influence or outright control the life decisions of others. Yep, granted, sometimes the teachings of life lessons are for the better of humanity but certainly NOT always — not when used in a judgmental way to impose the primitive beliefs of some on others, denying them individual liberty.
The primitive myths which are religions survive because they are taught — imposed upon children — children indoctrinated or outright brainwashed using the carrot/stick of heaven/hell: “train a child in the way he should go and when he is old he will not depart from it” — generation after generation. How do you know about whatever religion you follow? While there are exceptions, childhood indoctrination is likely how. This is reality, however uncomfortable it may make you.
Much of reality inhibits individual liberty, regardless of what you appear to believe. By the way, “free will” usually means “free”, not preordained. ‘…each “holy text”, however inspired, was interpreted and was written and published and edited by men, to be interpreted by men…” Don’t state the obvious, Sue. It doesn’t further your argument.
Finally, we agree — whether you intended to or not, by recognizing that the texts upon which religions are based are man made, you’ve reached the conclusion that religions are man made. It took stating the obvious to reveal we agree on something.
I believe everyone should be able to live their PRIVATE lives as they choose, without government interference and without any of us imposing our philosophical and/or religious views on others. It is only when any of us enter into a public venue/arena/activity that government should have any right to impose rules or regulations or laws. If we could agree on that, we’d have no significant disagreement.
Michael you are so far off it is actually funny. You go ahead and live how you want and raise your kids as you see fit but don’t try to define faith or theology because you just don’t know.
Oh, Michael…where to begin. Having attended seminary, I don’t recall any class that dealt with “the name of demons in Christianity.” “Beelzebub was a corruption of Beelzebul. And Christianity is not “just a form of propaganda used to demonize those who do not think as they do.” Read the New Testament, then get back to me.
I do not disagree.
IF there is any God Creator of ALL that exists, then it would have created any and all devils as well as ALL potential and ALL propensity for ALL evil. Any ALL knowing and ever present and ALL powerful God would then have WATCHED every instance of child abuse and/or neglect and/or molestation and/or rape that has ever occurred throughout ALL of human history, with the power to prevent such things — but did not.
” All that we know is what words they use and what actions they take.”
All she knows what words you use and what actions you
would at least like to take. And they aren’t very appealing
quite frankly.
God bless and may His Light shine upon you.
God bless and may His Light shine upon you.
That has already happened.
Really hard to understand your rants without “pre-obama common core” English.
Neither you nor I have any more proofs for our beliefs than
does Faye. Do try to keep that in mind.
This is because carolsky is not a true Christian. All she does is judge & condemn all Atheists & non- believers. She is a bad role model for her own religion & will not tolerate anyone who doesn’t except her god or beliefs. It’s one thing to call yourself a Christian, but if you fail to adhere to the principles & values of your own beliefs, are you really a Christian in the true sense of the word ? Thank You Dutch, for your very wise & thought provoking comment.
Faye, I do not care in the least if you believe in God or not. DO not need to know why you must blast the believers. If those that believe want to believe that is no skin off your nose, so just stop cussing and belittling them. What you believe is nothing to us and I do not give a damn what happens to you when you leave this world.
This is also a reply to Mark Lahti, The left has only one policy that is do as I say not as I do. It’s their way or no-way.
I am part of the left, and you are wrong.
You might be interested in some of the other posts however.
It is isn’t just “it’s my way or no-way” – it is “it’s my way or I’m
going to pack my weapons and start a revolution.”
And that sentiment is absolutely there. We have met
through the media before, but this is the first time I have
run into it by actual posters. They had to leave their tents
(I presume) to get to a computer and type.
Marlene: There are a whole lot of people who
here don’t seem to understand that the discussion
centers around (from the naysayers point of view)
the disgusting behavior of the woman in Austin,
Texas. Faye and I may have different reasons for
not liking it, but we both certainly agree that it was
a horrible, horrible, embarrassing event.
You tell me what you would think and how you would
react if some know-it-all, I hate you, person
interrupted your well planned, well attended meeting
on whatever. Would you ask to join up after that?
The fact of the matter is that she does not want
Muslims to become Christians. She wants them to
go back home and get out of her life. They are
the enemy. Doesn’t sound very Christlike to me.
Marlene: ” I do not give a damn what happens to you when you leave this world.”
“Are you another example of the
great Christians who show up at this site?”
Are you another example of the leftist, inclusive , caring non-believer.?
Marlene, I could care less what happens to you when you leave this world. I don’t believe in hell, but for you I would make an exception.
A truly loving response, Faye. Very “Christian” of you.
How many ways can I tell how your post will never convert
anyone to Christianity. “I do not care in the least”
“What you believe is nothing to us” “I do not gave a damn
what happens to you”
I think you need an ejicasion on how to be persuasive.
I am not trying to convert anyone religion wise. I am JEWISH, we do not believe in proslitizing. I do believe in trying to open the brains of libs. However, you are too far gone. I will never answer you again.
Sorry that I am just butting into your personal conversation here on this open public forum. I did notice that Faye just jumped in and started her judgmental comments and name calling without any direct provocation from anyone. It is the sad start of affairs these days when people who are just expressing an opinion in a public forum have to be jumped on, called names, and attacked for what they believe. Carolsky is merely expressing in clear, un-profane, calm, rational terms how she feels about her faith. That is not something that I thought the all tolerant, coexist, accept everybody no matter how outside the norm, people of the left were known for. Well it seems that these all tolerant people do not tolerate anything that they don’t agree with. Somehow that just explains everything the left is all about. We love and tolerate everybody unless they disagree with us. Some kind of real screwed up logic there on that one alright. Oh well, keep up the good work Carolsky. Because for many of us, you are right on the money. Unfortunately all we can do is pray for them. None are so blind as those who refuse to see. God Bless you and Faye.
Mark Lahti: Who are you? Are you one of those
jumpers in? Faye has been around since I started
which was yesterday. Carolsky and I have never
had a conversation before, that I remember, anyway.
Got anything better to say?
What dutch, he can’t have a say without you spewing your trash.
Yes I do as a matter of fact. Who the F___ are you? I don’t recall addressing you here. Personally, I don’t care how long you have talking to anyone (as if I asked). I’m just another one of those people who decide to join the conversation when I feel I have something to say. (Public forum) Not that I feel I have to explain anything to anyone, even you, I will say this. I made the comment I did because at the point I picked up the thread it appeared that Faye just started jumping on Carolskey and making character assassination style comments on someone else’s beliefs. It looked to me like a typical liberal assault on someone who she didn’t agree with. Therefore, in true liberal style, she resorted to the name calling, character assassination, judgmental comments, etc. Just as you and others have done on these sites I went to the aide of a fellow believer. So sue me. Now you too have felt the need to jump on me in someone else’s defense without any direct provocation by me. Again, another liberal typical attitude of “who the hell are you” (not intended to indicate a quote but to highlight for emphasis), coming from that “we are so much smarter and cooler than you are. You need to get a hold of yourself and calmly, rationally, discuss the subject without all the anger and attitude. But I guess when you’re in the wrong it’s hard to keep calm and rational. You just got to get nasty. You folks can’t help it as it’s just in your nature. So, I will pray for you and Faye and all of your kind in hopes the Lord can accomplish what we can not because you people are beyond reason.
Mark: Sorry that I am just butting into your personal conversation here on
this open public forum. I did notice that Faye just jumped in and
started her judgmental comments and name calling without any direct
provocation from anyone.”
I was responding to this comment of yours.
And this: ” Faye just started jumping on Carolskey and making character
assassination style comments on someone else’s beliefs. It looked to me
like a typical liberal assault on someone who she didn’t agree with.
Therefore, in true liberal style, she resorted to the name calling,
character assassination, judgmental comments, etc.”
In true liberal fashion? ? ! ! You are not very introspective, are you? Do you really think that
you and yours are nice to others? Let’s get serious here. You don’t like anyone who disagrees
with you and you – and yours – are far more vile than I have ever been to you. On top of that,
you aren’t nice to or about anyone – like the Muslims living in this USA – who ain’t you and yours.
I’m Sorry, Mark, but did I at any time suggest to
Carolsky to go get lost, or to quit posting. I am telling
her what I think of her methodology. I want other
people to become Christians too. And what
I saw from this woman in Texas and the approval of
this crowd here is disgusting.
I saw that video on YouTube & it made me sick to my stomach. This woman’s name is Christine Weick. She is a disgrace to her religion. These Muslims were celebrating Muslim Capital Day, as they had done 6 years prior & had no problems with this in the past. What was really disturbing is when she so hatefully interrupted the Muslim woman’s speech, mostly everyone cheered for her. How can she call herself a Christian & be so intolerant to another religion & culture ? It made me so angry. There are over 1 million Muslims living in this country alone & they are peace loving people who condemn what The Radical Islamists are doing in The Middle East. It’s like saying just because Hitler was German & killed millions of people, that we should hate all Germans. This woman not only hated what this Muslim Woman was saying, but she made it perfectly clear that she wanted these people to leave her country & go back where they came from. This is why I have no tolerance for any religion & in my opinion, religion poisons everything.
Show us one instance of ANY muslime that denounces the beheadings, slaughter of Christians, bombings, hijackings. You love those muslimes and hate Christians. Sick, demented nothing!!
Well, opinions are like assholes. Everyone has one, and they’re not always pretty.
I think you have it ass backwards. I don’t need your blessings from a false god that doesn’t exist, so enough already!!
Mark : Sorry, but you are being far to kind about Carolsky.
As a fellow christian, she irritates me and embarasses me.
Wow, a post without swear words. Why don’t you and dutch get a room, smoke some hash and watch CNN.
Why don’t you & your buddy Michael Dimwitz get a room, smoke some weed & give each other a B. J.
SEE, I TOLD YOU ALL, SHE IS IN HERE TROLLING FOR DICK, ALL THE MEN IN HER FAMILY HAVE USED HER UP AND BEAT IT UP SO BAD THEY THREW HER TO THE CURB AND NOW SHE IS TROLLING FOR DICK ON HERE. REAL NICE YOU FUCKING LOSER
Really sweet, Faye. Even for a discussion with the tenor of this one, that is a vile thing to say.
Dear Lord, may you show Faye Hayes Your Light and bring her (perhaps kicking and screaming) into Your Presence so that she may know the love You hold for her if only she would say “yes”! AMEN!
All I can do is tell you about God but it is up to you to accept or deny but God will be the judge. The Bible says judge not least you be judged. Faye are you against all religion or just Christianity? Just wondering
Better listen to Jude Dutch girl. He practices one thing and preaches another. He’s the only one in the discussion that “has his shit together” HA!!
Really? LMAO
And you know this to be factually true?? You have no proof or evidence to these false claims & yet you have the audacity to judge me, because I choose not to believe in your invisible sky daddy? Who the hell do you think you are, you arrogant twit!! Then you go on to say if I don’t make it right with your god, something bad will happen to me & it won’t be pretty. How dare you!! Is it any wonder why Atheists always have to defend themselves & speak out against such religious bullshit!!
Yes, actually I DO KNOW and I have sent a kindly warning so you might change your fate before it is too late. However, it seems you are entrenched in your fallacious beliefs (with no proof of your position) and therefore when you do get before the Master, try and remember you were warned…because you will be asked to account for why you didn’t heed this warning and the hundreds of others who also wanted to help.
God bless and may Your eyes be opened to His Truth and Light!
PS And I would never call you nor your fallacious beliefs names nor would I cuss…guess it goes with the territory YOU inhabit. And by the way it is not “god [sic]” it is God!
You must be one of those Evangelical Christian cults who believe it is their job to make everyone believe as you do. I wish the USA would create a law like they have in Iran where you can be executed for preaching in public. Religion belongs in Church.
You support MuSLIME ‘s having a taxpayer supported site at the San Francisco Airport? Hypocrite.
Osama: a taxpayer supported site at the airport?
Oh no, where’s my signs and my marching shoes.?
Where are my guns? I am not paying taxes, for any
one, those no good, no account lazy bums, and I
especially ain’t going to pay taxes for support those
creepy aliens from Muslime land.
It is my god give right to keep all the money I make (&
maybe even earned, or maybe not). I’m sure that
god does not approve to supporting the lazy people
who won’t work or worship Him the way I do
“god [sic]”…Freudian?
AWWW! Unknot yer pink panties, dikeboy!! You “regressives” wring yer hands, spew and froth at the mouth at the mention of God, then “Hey, muslims want a prayer room at a tax supported facility? Why, what’s the harm in that?” As usual, hypocrisy, hypocrisy, hypocrisy!!!!
Wow, there is so much you do not understand about me, or perhaps even life.
I do not ever spew and froth at the mention of God. I am very much pro-God.
And, do you know the definition of hypocrisy? In what particular way do I
appear that way to you? Give me an example – you know, if you can. And any
particular reason why you decided to call me dikeboy? P.S. I would bet that
most dikeboys don’t wear pink panties.
I understand life!! I don’t understand how a VOCAL few are allowed to dictate to the MANY. I don’t understand why we shudder at the word “OFFENDED”. I don’t understand why we sit as every tradition and belief we held dear for centuries are dismantled and spat upon.
Hipocrisy? I do not spew and froth at the mouth. That is
your style. I am not having fits about places of prayer in
airports. I am a firm believer in God. And I try hard
to act like I am one.
Why the lag in responding dykeboy?? You pukes spew about “church and state”, then give a pass to muSLIMES! There is a lot of anger building up! Oh, Please don’t have Oblame-o have the IRS audit me!!
Good heavens. Does everything make you mad?
I was in an airport in Boston just last week and a half
and I saw an interfaith room for anyone who wants to
worshiip.
Sounds like an excellent plan to me. Religion does belong in church, but never in the public square. When are Christians going to come to the realization that they do not own this country & every American has a right to believe or the right not to believe in their god or any gods. As an Atheist, I have every right to criticize & challenge you for believing in nonsense. You make all these claims about your god & your bible, but where is your proof or evidence that these imaginary things do exist? Show me some evidence, but until then I’ll have to assume there isn’t any& it’s all a bunch of made up bullshit.
Faye you are making a fool out of yourself.
You keep saying we have no proof. I have seen over and over you present what are only called theories. That is not PROOF. Science only makes God creation only stronger. The complexity and the beauty of the world had to be created by a higher Being. Too many holes in the theories. For every doubt of a God I can argue your
science theory. The Bible is for many not literal. Many were stories but there is no doubt in Jesus and his message. So sorry you missed it. You are on your on own. Wish you felt the happiness and peace we feel in helping others and in trying to following in His foot steps. My life is filled with love not hate and foul words for mankind. You choose your path and I bet you are miserable fighting with everyone. You actually think your stupid babble makes us mad but it only makes us stronger in our beliefs and see how ridiculous people who swear and get angry with all their hate for us. Maybe you should go to a site where you are appreciated for what you stand for whatever that is.
Wow!! That sure sounds like the tolerant progressive left to me. Everybody has the right to say anything to anybody unless you disagree with them. Create a law like they have in Iran? Again, WOW!! Our right to be able to say whatever (within reason) is clearly upheld by the constitution. If that system doesn’t feel right to you maybe you would be more comfortable in Iran. God bless and keep you in spite of yourself.
Would you really want to live under the Iran Gov. Then I suggest you go there where you will not have to hear anything except Sharia Law. God Bless you
So do you, Michael. I just can’t see you darkening the door of church anytime soon.
Hey C, she can not see past her own attacks and name calling and profanity. It is the curse of the liberal cause. They can not successfully defend a position that goes against everything they know to be true. But because they have all this selfish desires and wrong minded attitudes towards everything they want to do they have to attack in manner they do. It is just a failing of the wrongfully committed. Wrongfully committed to self interests. They claim to care for everyone else yet the only ones they find inclusive are those that they agree with for their own selfish interests.
Sadly, you are correct…and those who attempt to help her open her eyes to truth are merely tooting in a typhoon (there would be no witness to it!).
It is now up to God to open those eyes held so tightly shut by ignorance…God Bless!
Between you and carolskey, I’m not sure which of you are
the more convinced that you are God’s gift to the world.
The biggest joke is that you are calling the liberal interests
as selfish. Are we the ones who are constantly complaining
about all the taxes that go to welfare people and situations,
who complain that not everyone is just like you? You really
ought to take a good hard look in the mirror.
Omg Dutch what world do you live in. You have to be getting paid to post such stupidity. Please for your family’s sake seek some help… Seriously.
As should you, Dutch.
You had better learn to understand what claim to read. Atheist also pray to a higher being in the end other wise they would have nothing to live for.
Faye your initial question spells out the whole problem. You have no concept of faith. You are stuck in academia. You need proof. If you can’t touch it, smell it, see it, it does not exist. Atheists as well as a lot of “Christians” get so hung up on proof. A Christian just like in any other religion does not require proof. They have Faith. Personally I don’t care if there was ever a great flood or, if the sea was parted for the Jews or if Jesus walked on water. I have faith in a creator and I call him God. Does religion start wars…YES. Is religion responsible for millions of Deaths…YES but religion and faith are two different things.
I will be glad when you die and find that you wasted your life praying to some imaginary being when you could have spent your time enjoying the time you were given.
Michael: I see that there are non-charitable
non-Christians also.
I have some words of wisdom for you:
“Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.”~Abraham Lincoln.
“Don’t waste what is holy on people who are unholy. Don’t throw your pearls to pigs! They will trample the pearls, then turn and attack you.”~Matthew 7:6.
Enough said…God Bless!
I see what you mean ,it would have have been better but you blew it
“Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who substitute darkness
for light and light for darkness; Who substitute bitter for sweet and
sweet for bitter!”~Isaiah 5:20.
God please open this liberal fool’s eyes to Your Light!
Why don’t you preach to Osama or Dennewiwtz. They
need it a whole lot more than I do.
Dutch,
This is my FIRST comment to you…I sent nary a word in your direction. However, now that you have sent a comment to me I will respond with a famous quote from President Reagan:
“It isn’t so much that liberals are ignorant. It’s just that they know so many things that aren’t so.” Enough said…God Bless!
This woman is so indoctrinated into this religious cult , that she will believe anything , no matter how much you try to reason with her. As Christopher Hitchens quotes in many of his books & debates “religion poisons everything “
So does a wasted mind.
YOU are a waste of time & YOU need to get a lobotomy as soon as possible. Is that spit drooling down your chin ? DUH!!!!!!
No, radical feminism poisons everything!
So, now you consider me a radical feminist , just because I’m an Atheist, who doesn’t believe in your false god ? Religion really does cause brain damage, doesn’t it? You’re living proof of that.
Don’t speak out of ignorance, Faye. It doesn’t become you.
Faye seems to hate everyone the same.She makes no sense and cusses out everyone the same. No sense trying. She is stuck with her head in the sand. JUst let her be in her misery.
Oh, so you are one of those? God help us all..
No, people poison everything. If one excuse doesn’t work,
they will find another.
Faye is it like being indoctrinated into Obamism or socialism?
David: Do you know where I first heard about a group
of socialists? In the Bible. The first Christians. They all
pooled their money together and shared everything they
had.
Maybe you would like to go and do likewise.
Well that was a fairly stupid thing to say Dutch. Why would that make any difference to me. God blessed us with free will also but that doesn’t seem to matter to you democrats that believe you have the to tell everyone else how to live.
David: Let’s get one thing straight. It is the virulent
conservatives around here who
are attempting to tell the rest of
us how to live. What we are simply
saying is “don’t step on our toes”
because we are not going to put
up with it. If you want to mouth
off, pound your chest, flash your
guns around, and say the word
“constitution” in every third
sentence,go ahead, and continue
to be as boring as you have been
in the past, but don’t expect me to
be in your audience.
I’m sorry Dutch. Now you have shown you are truly an uninformed and apparently ignorant person you are. You have obviously been brainwashed and therefore not worth wasting time with. Dutch if you do not see how the left wants to control every aspect of our lives from the size soft drink you buy to how you feed your kids, how you light your house, how you express yourself and finally how you defend yourself, you are just blind. Please don’t bother responding Dutch you are just not worth it.
Wants to control every aspect of
our lives !!! That’s a good one.
Why don’t you take another look.
The Right wants to tell us that we
must have a baby whether we
want to or not (or, you know, don’t
have sex). Some of the Right would like to go back to no birth control. They want to tell us
whether we can get married or
not. They tell us that public
prayer in schools is just fine.
They try to take away the right
to assemble if they don’t have
the right religion.
In the past, the Right is the wing
that fought women’s right to
vote, fought against ending
slavery. How basic can you
get !!!
The Conservatives are the ones
who can’t handle change. I
could give example upon example upon example. But
let’s take religion. If the Christians continue to insist that
the Bible is to be interpreted as
they see it, there will soon be
no Christian religion. The earth
was not created in six days,
And Genesis is not a science
book. There are two creation
stories in Genesis. They differ
in every way, except one. God
created the world and it was
Good. That is the message.
You don’t explain to a people
who have not yet come out of
the dark ages how evolution
works, that planets exist, that the
sun is a fiery ball. The story must be told in myth form or no
one would listen. We are now
at that point where, if you insist
that we must believe the myth
form, no one will listen.
I am not blind. I believe that
we should be about the job
of helping each other whenever
we can. I understand that
“tend my garden” was the 1st
command that God ever gave to
humans and that if we don’t
tend the garden, we will pay for
it big time, with an earth that
does not and cannot produce
for us.
And your little diatribe to me
about how the government
controls (or tries to control
every aspect of our lives),
virtually everything you said is
incorrect. You can feed your
children the way you want, you can drink soft drinks of any size, you can light your house with candles And of course, “how you defend yourself” – the patriots reason for living. Answer your doorbell
with a gun in your hand every
day if you want. The hair on your chest won’t grown any
longer.
Dutch I am astounded. NEVER have I encountered anyone so delusional and totally brainwashed by the socialist lies. I can’t even begin to address your misguided statements. You know nothing, nothing about Conservatives or Christians. All you do is puke the lies they tell you are true. I read you post and feel sorry for this country.
Don’t try to read modern politics into the Bible, Dutch.
Both Obama-ism and socialism are
good things.
Yes of course they are. Good for nothing.
Michael, just wondering. Why do you think that carolskey can’t enjoy life and believe in God? If carolskey dies and there is no spirit to continue how would she know she is wrong? She will essentially be worm food and would not know the difference. I am unclear about you initial statement in that I wonder if you will be glad that she is dead or will you be glad if she finds out her beliefs were a waste.
I will be glad when you die and find that you wasted your life praying to some imaginary being when you could have spent
I’m beginning to think that there is not one “Christian” on
this forum who has the right to that designation. Just what
in heaven’s name do you think Christianity is all about?
You have no idea Dutch
You are wrong there. And if I thought that being a
Christian meant that I had to think and behave as this
gang here, I would give up religion and become a Buddhist.
Well, that is an idea…
Carolskey: “God please open this liberal fool’s eyes to Your Light!”
Gosh, that would get me to an altar real fast. Geez.
Dear she is beyond any reason and help. All you can do is pray for her. As is all else in liberal mind set everybody has the right and everybody is equal unless you don’t agree with them. God forgive them for they know not what they do.
Carolskey: Do try to understand that you are in no
position to judge me.
It’s a shame American’s vocabulary is so limited. Thanks to years of worthless liberal education, I guess. That’s one thing I can always spot in liberals. They don’t know how to debate. If you disagree with them, they resort to name calling. It’s quite pathetic.
KLHG: “worthless liberal education.”
That is a good way to debate !!! Try again.
First of all, my comments were not directed a you. Second, have youever seen the test of what a student needed to know back in 1900. It was pretty tough. I doubt most professors would pass. Kids graduate today, 70% need remedial reading. Our population in general couldn’t show you troublesome Middle East countries on a map. My kids both went to school in Cheyenne, WY. They got a good education & my youngest went to CSU with over 25,000 students & did very well. Today, I wouldn’t send my kids to public school. I want them to know how to read, complete coherent sentences, know a decent amount of history & geography. My stepgrandaughter is super smart, well rounded & is finishing up a semester in Britain. She was the Valedictorian when she graduated. She’s articulate & everybody likes her. She too, did not go to public school. She lives outside of Philly. Anyway, I’ m wasting too much time on this. So I’ll agree to disagree.
You’re preaching to the choir dude. Judge Duke is like Ovomit. His way only and he will ALWAYS find fault with anything that doesn’t conform completely with his line of thinking. Yeahhriight…. ROFLMAO
Did they teach you in your terrific conservative school
(public or otherwise) to call the President of the US
offensive nicknames?
Excuse me? We don’t have “a president” in the white house. What we have is a little halfbreed mooselum terrorist, sworn to take this country apart, piece by piece. There are not words vile enough to describe this communist, terrorist, lying bastard….He was illegally elected and occupies the seat as an illegal liar.. He is the HNIC !!! Nothing more. I would show more respect to a camel’s ass….
He is the President. He is a halfbreed, but he is not a
mooselum terrorist. He did not swear to take this country
apart, piece by piece. He is not vile, he is not a communist
a terrorist or a lying bastard, He was legally elected. I
don’t know what HNIC but I bet that I can guess what the N
stands for.
There was one word of truth in your post. He is a halfbreed.
Or close enough. He actually has some black in him on
his mother’s side also, going way back. But he is not a
little halfbreed. He is tall, he is handsome, he is smart,
and he is powerful, and he is better than you, in every
way imaginable. And with that you can kiss MYass.
W O W W! You don’t have your head far up his ass there socialist, you completely crawled up his mooselum ass! And damned, are you ever going to get tour deranged mind blown, just like all the dumbasses that voted for his communist, terrorist
Dennewitz: (For the time being, I’m going to refrain
doing the Ovomit thing with your last name, but it would be so easy to start with Dim and go from there).
Am I supposed to be impressed, or scared, by your little
diatribe. Why don’t you tell me. And then I’ll tell you
what it has actually done for me.
It makes me feel extremely superior to you and any stupid
ideas that you may have.
There are a couple of people on this forum that seriously
need to stop drinking or smoking whatever you might happen
to be smoking. You are one. Dennewitz is the other. I
am pretty sure that very few people in this world are as
offensive as the two of you without some serious help”
This is something I just posted a few posts up. I didn’t want
you to miss it. You can change your name for Osama’s as
that is whom it was originally written to.
Help me out here. I’m trying like hell to figure out who it was that died and had your sorry ass take their perfect space… Sheesh, the assholes just keep crawling out, kinda like cockroaches!!
Geeeeeeez Dutch back off on the Kool Aid Do you actually have a shrine to the guy at home?
Not yet.
Well get on it man
I would have to find someone worthy of the job first.
I wonder if Michaelangelo is available?
I have a shithouse you can use, it is full of building material.
I have a shithouse you can use
Gosh, I didn’t think that anyone had outhouses any more. Got a
Sears catalogue in there too? Or do we have to bring our own.
I think it is you who needs to stay away from the Kool Aid. It’s really fucking up what’s left of that little brain of yours. Maybe cut back on the number of joints you’ve been smoking everyday. By any chance, is Jack Daniels a good friend of yours ? LMAO!!!
Hey slut I don’t drink, don’t smoke and hate Kool Aid. When i want some of your stupid comments i’ll let you know. Until then keep your mouth shut, keep smoking that crack and walking the streets for drug money.
I am not a slut, you foul mouth piece of crap!! Keep my mouth shut ? Who’s going to shut it ? YOU?? You don’t have the balls, you freaking coward!! I don’t require your permission to say whatever I want to say about you or anyone else. Got that, ASSHOLE!! Mix a little Jack Daniels in with that Kool Aid. You might acquire a taste for it after all. LOL!!!
Yeah i’m the foul mouth… Read your own posts you dumb bitch. Sounds like your in a bad mood. Either you ran out of crack or having trouble finding tricks willing to pay you. Now i told you to shut your cum catching mouth. You bore me.
YOU DISGUST ME!!!
Oh you don’t like getting it back. I’m glad i disgust you. Now you know how everyone else here feels about you and you ignorant posts.
Dayummm. And here I thought I was the only one that thought she was a dizzy KUNT!
If he not a Muslim terrorist, why is it that he has placed the Muslim brotherhood members in to high offices in the Homeland Security Department, and release 5 of the most dangerous terrorist in Gitmo?
To answer your first question: He hasn’t. Don’t assume
that ties to some organization makes them a member. One
guy is a Republican from Texas (which I don’t think makes
him a member, but I could be wrong), another was an
envoy to one of the Brotherhood organizations (envoy
means he goes to talk with an organization while representing
another organization) – it does not mean membership).
A third one was a lawyer for a person being called a
terrorist and maybe was a terrorist. When appointing
lawyers for people like this within the US, they usually
try to find someone one who can speaka da language.
I quit looking after that. If you are going to make a statement, you PROVE that it is accurate. I don’t need
to spend my time proving you are wrong.
As for the Gitmo guys – expect more of this. We are
trying to become friends of a sort with Cuba again.
Cuba wants Gitmo to shut down. Obama wants
Gitmo to shut down. Always has. So when he found
another country (Oman) who was willing to take them
and be responsible for them, they were sent to
Oman ( not Yemen, the originating country). I have
no idea if these guys were the most dangerous
terrorists, and for that matter neither do you. You
just love to make things sound as bad as possible.
I have run into your kind before on these forums.
He traded the top five terrorist general of Al-Qaida for Burgdual an army deserter if you paying attention the news you would known that. I have also read stuff from people like who believe they the only experts Definition of expert (a spurt is a drip under pressure an ex is a has been) better known as a has been under pressure. END OF CONVERSATION your not worth my time and energy
” I have also read stuff from people like who believe they the only experts”
Where do you get your information?
But even if Fox News people are the most uninformed people in
our nation (no, let’s make that “ill-informed” people in the nation),
it still takes a mind set, a lack of social conscience, a sweltering
fear of anything new or different to ALWAYS see or translate
something into evil.
In this particular incident, if circumstances were different, or even
if the discussion had been changed around a bit, you would be
condemning Obama for not sending in a battalion of paratroopers
to rescue him.
The motto of the Marines (as least my son told me it was their
motto when he was in the Marines) is to never leave someone
behind. Why would Bergdahl be an exception. Because you
assume he was a deserter? You don’t know that, but let’s say
that he really was. We still don’t leave him behind – unless of
course it suits your particular purposes. Yes, we
traded him for five Taliban terrorists. That is how life is some
times. We have to do things we don’t want to do. But let’s not
forget that before this “desertion” he had also been considered
a hero, but we probably should now put that term up for grabs
also, don’t you think.
If you want my opinion – and you are going to get it whether
you want it or not – this could very well be a guy who had just
simply had more than enough, too much, of war. Look at the
number of people who come back from war and commit
suicide. They can’t get their life back together for one reason
or another. We have the numbers for the suicides. What
about those who come back and find other outlets for their
depression of having had to do what they did. One of my
best friends is in the position. He got an early discharge. He
was lucky. He can function again after some time spent in
psychiatrist’s office. His rage and heartbreak is under control
if not entirely absent yet.
Our life and our safety is not going to depend on whether 5
guys re-enter the Taliban ranks.
Well, this has certainly been a nice exchange to read…NOT.
“She trolls around looking for people that “dis” her “sex fantasy” boy
Oblame-o.”He is tall, he is handsome, he is smart, and he is powerful”
Gosh, hon, go to Chipndales, take some of that EBT money the gubment
gave you and have some fun.”
Did you like this one better?
“He is tall, he is handsome, he is smart, and he is powerful”. LMAO!!!!!!! Ha Ha Ha, Hump his sissy leg some more dykeboy!! Handsome? Maybe to the LGBT set that he supports, smart? Not without a teleprompter! He can’t even greet his fellow arabs correctly without one. Powerful? Yup, he has a phone and a pen!! LMFAO.
There are a couple of people on this forum that seriously
need to stop drinking or smoking whatever you might happen
to be smoking. You are one. Dennewitz is the other. I
am pretty sure that very few people in this world are as
offensive as the two of you without some serious help
There is one person here that comments on stories that are months old. She trolls around looking for people that “dis” her “sex fantasy” boy Oblame-o.”He is tall, he is handsome, he is smart, and he is powerful” Gosh, hon, go to Chipndales, take some of that EBT money the gubment gave you and have some fun.
Hey douchebag dutch, I don’t need any serious help. I can easily tell you to GO FUCK YOURSELF on my own, okay?? ROFLMFAO
I was just trying to be nice. I cannot imagine that anyone could
be as vile as you, without the help of alcohol.
Boy! You really DO have your head up the little terrorist’s ass, eh?? ROFLMFAO “handsome” HA!!!!
If we didn’t have free speech, you would be in the hoosegow.
And if lying is a sin, – – – – – fill in the blanks.
The only thing Michael Dimwitz learned in school was how to be a racist bigot!!
OH GOOD Faye again with the racist card.
Every site has it’s swallowing whores.
Every site has their village idiot & you seem to have all of the right qualifications for the job. Keep up the good work, moron!!
Maggot! Does the home only let you out every 10 days? Go occupy, burn down a store or organize somewhere.
A paying trick was having a hard time with Daisy Douchebag one night and she said, “Wait a minute.” She reached down and removed all the scabs and that made it much easier for him. ROFL
I have noticed that the number of posts on these Total Conservative spots
seem to have fallen drastically. Perhaps people are becoming embarrassed
by the quality of posts.
You know which ones I am talking about. Those who never prove anything
except that they can’t write a decent sentence, don’t have a decent thought,
and swear like drunk.
Maybe they’re all scattering because they’re tired of reading all your bullshit about how in love you are with the HNIC!!
Would you like to translate that HNIC for me.
OK Jr. enough is enough you just lost any respect that I thought I had for you. you are being a real jerk. you have no proof of what you are saying, if you did you would have it in your hand. I Have been so busy all the time trying to give people the answers they are looking for. I am up until 3 am. you are not so good that you can pull this nasty comment out of your butt and expect us to say good boy. I am thru being nice. And I don’t think they swear that much because I do not allow it. and I am sure they are not drunk. Maybe you better water down your Kool Aid. why don’t you take your beloved President that you cried for and have loved ever since and Mrs. hilllary cause you might nee a good health care program she is going to get together and go find an island secluded so nobody can bother you, and don’t forget billy boy and his saxophone and any friends he might want to bring for his special needs. And leave America alone. We will fix it we do not need any one that lies cheats or steals. We have had our fill of that.
I couldn’t believe that your post was meant to be addressed to me
because I can’t find one of mine nearby, and you call me Jr. (I’m
70 years old. I’m not anyone’s Jr.). I am the only around this place
that attempts to prove anything. And then I’m trying to figure out
what this “nasty” comment is that I pulled out of my butt Are you
talking about my remark to Dennewitz!!!!! If so, and you are calling MY comments nasty !!!! Wow. Make that double WOW. No wonder you never made it as a “public servant.” No wonder you hated it.
Maybe your brain is always this addled at 3:00 a.m. Can we blame it on that. I’m sure that I will need a good health care program; I am also sure that I will have a good one – Obamacare or not – since at the moment I am fully covered, my husband owns a thriving business, and we have something in the order of $5 million in cash and assets waiting for the day we may sometime decide to actually retire.
Can you believe it, but this is not about me. It is about my
kids, it is about my friends and neighbors, it is about this country
that I call my own. I want to be proud of it. Telling the world
that the quality of health care depends on how well you have
“made” it in this world doesn’t make me proud. Not for a minute.
It sounds rather Third World to me. And guess what – EVERY
industrialized country in this world has socialized health care –
except us. That is not a figure I have pulled out of my butt.
It has been true for well over 10 years.
And just for the heck of it,m what does billy boy and his saxophone
have to do with this conversation. Are you jealous that he is
talented, along with having the best stock market readings in the
US since the Great Depression.
I have had my fill of people like yourself who accuse our President
of lying and cheating and stealing without ever offering one
word of actual evidence. Not that it makes any difference. The
world is filled with people like you. Some of them even call
themselves Christians.
I am not even reading your post . Already you are lying , why can’t you play nice. I tried being nice until you came back with your nasty remarks and I am supposed to let you do that to me. go back and read your disgusting remarks. I do not want to hear from you again. Go play on someone elses site.
oh, I see you are not a man. Now it figures. No I am not jealous of anything or anybody. and I have excused a lot of your remarks but when you attack me for no reason except for telling the truth then I will return the attack. And don’t play the game of he has never done anything wrong. Where will you be living when he starts the move he will move the rich to live in the poor neighborhoods with the poor moving in the rich homes . He is changing the lifestyle of the people. And did you not just tell me how much you are worth yes I think you said you have 5 million in cash and assets . You are probably on the top of his list. And if you followed my post from before you will see that I was answering all your questions or putdowns. As far as my being a public servant I did not hate that I hated the democrats and their stupid brainless things even back then so If I was you I would check out before I say something nasty and personal. And why are you commenting on what time I am up until that was stupid on your part. I guess you hate women and it shows you have been nasty to me every time. if you think for one second I will put up with your garbage you are wrong. I thought what I said was he could take his saxophone to the island with him and Hillary. Oh and I said he found a game to play under the desk in the oval office. And he got paid for that with my tax payers dollars. The truth hurts.
“you attack me for no reason except for telling the truth”
Not true. I attacked you (if you want to use that term) because
you did not back up your truth with either proof from an expert or
with proof from your own reasoning. You just said something. and
I challenged it. And I asked you to prove it and you didn’t come
close to even bothering to do that. More than once, I might add.
What did you want from me, a hip hip hooray? What is
the name of the program. DISQUS. What does disqus mean?
DISCUSS.
Hey David, why don’t you tell us what you think of
Osama and Demmowitz. I mean, if you really want to
complain about someone, they would be perfect targets.
They won’t even remember what you said within 15 minutes.
Anything I say obviously takes up all the space in your little pea brain. it must be hard being a drone and stupid.
Hey dykeboy, how was Faya last night?
Why? he really is not a president. Maybe you should know what he calls us and a lot of our friends in a different country!!! if you are demanding respect forget it you can’t demand respect you have to earn it. and that is the way it should be. yes that is the way we were taught. We were told as kids if you want people to respect you, you have to show respect also. Nothing wrong with that theory.
“Maybe you should know what he calls us and a lot of our friends in a different country!!!”
Why don’t you tell me what he calls us? And you might
also tell us how you found out about it?
Dlscusion over.
Of course the discussion is over because you don’t have
the answer.
It would be so nice if I could find at least one conservative
who could answer a question.
AH! Dyke boy spews what Putin on the dress spews…..
You wrote 2 words & could not even try to spell discussion correctly. YOU are pitiful!!
Wow so shame on me. but you are really disgusting. get a life and stay out of mine.
If you insist that people stay out of your life, don’t write on
forums. If you want your forum writing reasonably pleasant,
you could try being a little bit nicer than you are.
Dutch is 100% right. If you can’t stand the heat, then stay out of the kitchen. Poor little Elaine might get heat stroke. LOL!!!
Dutch is 100% right. If you cant stand the heat, then stay out of the kitchen. Poor little Elaine might get heat stroke. LOL!!!
WHAT? Read your own post Faye…. What an idiot.
10 Quotes By Barack Obama About Islam
#1 “Islam has always been part of America”
#2 “we will encourage more Americans to study in Muslim communities”
#3“These rituals remind us of the principles that we hold in common, and
Islam’s role in advancing justice, progress, tolerance, and the dignity
of all human beings.”
#4“America and Islam are not exclusive and need not be in competition.
Instead, they overlap, and share common principles of justice and
progress, tolerance and the dignity of all human beings.”
#5 “So I have known Islam on three continents before coming to the region where it was first revealed”
#6 “Ramadan is a celebration of a faith known for great diversity and racial equality”
#7 “As a young man, I worked in Chicago communities where many found dignity and peace in their Muslim faith.”
#8 “Ilook forward to hosting an Iftar dinner celebrating Ramadan here at the
White House later this week, and wish you a blessed month.”
#9“That experience guides my conviction that partnership between America
and Islam must be based on what Islam is, not what it isn’t. And I
consider it part of my responsibility as president of the United States
to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam wherever they appear.”
#10 “I also know that Islam has always been a part of America’s story.”
Quotes By Barack Obama About Christianity
#1 “Whatever we once were, we are no longer a Christian nation”
#2 “We do not consider ourselves a Christian nation.”
10 Quotes By Barack Obama About Islam
Yes, is there a problem? Now, if our President talked about Muslims
the way you talk about Muslims we would be at war today – and probably in our country. I would hope that the enemy would at least
have the common sense to start their bombing in the South, where
you will find lots of people who think it is wise and smart to hate all
Muslims.
you can’t demand respect you have to earn it. and that is the way it
should be. yes that is the way we were taught. We were told as kids if
you want people to respect you, you have to show respect also.”
At what point are you going to apply it to yourself? Obama has my
respect. You haven’t. And there is good reason for both of those
choices.
First ell me what you respect about him, I will listen. And what you do not respect about me. I would like to know!!
“what you do not respect about me. I would like to know!!”
Let’s start here. “he really is not a president” I haven’t posted on
this site for perhaps several weeks, until today again. Maybe things have changed. But what I know of people who say that Obama isn’t the President I truly do not like. Because from the earliest days of the campaigning in the first election, certain groups have gone to extremes that I have never witnessed before to keep this man ( shall I be more specific? this black man) from entering the office.
The attitude didn’t surprise me that much, but the announcement of, the bragging about the attitude did. The racism in this country
either arrived again or came out of hiding. And along with a whole
lot of other things, it scares me. Because there is one thing I know for sure, RACISM isn’t going to solve any problem. And calling our President a Moozlem, and a LBGT, and his wife a transvestite and an ape is also not going to solve any problem, but it will magnify it. And we are seeing that today. Ferguson, Baltimore, Garland, etc. etc etc. Blacks are mad. Because people aren’t even pretending , once again, to have respect for this race.
Now, if your statement was not suggesting that he is an illegal
President, and all the garbage that goes along with that stupid
argument, then I apologize. Then maybe we have something
to talk about.
As for why I like Obama, it is quite simple. He embraces policies
that I embrace. My biggest “voting” concern was socialized
medicine. I WANT THAT. I want it as much as I love and
appreciate my social security. There are few issues that I have
read about and studied more in the last 10 years than I have
that one. I know 8 people (couples) personally who live in
socialized medicine countries. Three were college friends of mine. We keep in touch. I ask questions. They answer them. They would not trade their own system for the American one for
anything. I have heard Canadian actors say the same thing.
One of them said that he thinks that Canadians, as a whole,
are a nicer and happier people, because the have a government
that helps them with their most basic needs and they have not
become a dog eat dog society. My own Canadian friend had
said nearly the same thing a few months before. The country
voted on the person they admired most in Canadian history,
and the winner would be put on a postage stamp. It was the
guy who brought socialized medicine to the country.
OK, there are at least dozen other topics I could mention. But
to me that was the most important thing. I was a Hillary fan.
Was planning on voting for her. But then, she didn’t get the
nomination, and during Obama’s outstanding acceptance
speech I heard him say “I AM MY BROTHER’S KEEPER” and
I was crying. I have loved him ever since.
I never said nay of those things you are saying I said. be honest I know what I post. because he said I am my brother’s keeper you cried. Ok. it was an emotional time for you. if you were take the time today u would have seen that I was saying the same thing I was upset because they were talking the way the way they were. I was angry because their were more important things to disgus, but it is a free country and I give them their right to speak as i did you. The only thing I will say is please be fair when you are disagreeing with someone and make sure you have all your ducks in a row.
I can understand your wants. but listening to a couple people would not cut it for me. I have ever heard anybody say they are happy with it. And the other thing I hear is about Ob care. That was a disaster from day one. It is so bad right now I can not believe the people paying the price for it. but we will fix it. it will take time but we will fix it. now for the last topic . Hillary, I have no clue what you think she has accomplished the whole time she was in office. And she ahs done so many wrong things. but I will let that go . just so you understand we are trying to get to a better America, and we will . With you or without you.
This is a free country and you have a right to your opinion and I think I gave you that right to tell us what you think!!!
It is so bad right now I can not believe the people paying the price for it. but we will fix it.”
Yes, if Hillary gets into office, she will fix it. She will get rid of
insurance companies in the mix.
“I have never heard anybody say they are happy with it.” That and a couple sentences following it make me believe you were half
asleep when you wrote it.
Perhaps you have never heard anybody say anything good about
it because you run around with people who are just like you. You
are conservative which, by definition, means that you are afraid of
something new. My grandfather used to tell us how people were
so afraid of social security also. The reasoning back then was
that people said that any kind of insurance was a lack of trust
in God. (rolling my eyes).
How many of those people have actually used it. I’m of medicare
age, so I’m not a good candidate to report. I do know that when
I had an operation, the bill came to $110,000. When they found
out I had medicare it went down to $35.000.00
Are you aware of any country with socialized medicine that is
calling for their governments to get rid of it. Even old Greyfox
who used to haunt these forums and call me names at every
opportunity, was bragging about his Canadian socialized medicine.
Don’t be so afraid of something new. If everyone were like you,
we would still be living in the Dark Ages.
And by the way, look at the latest poll numbers. And they
become even more interesting as the poll is broken down into
categories. The more people actually know about the facts
of Obamacare, the better they like the plan.
Ok,you start off so good then you get a little off base. first of all let me say I am afraid of nothing. I am getting a little tired of your comments. just when I think you might be ok to talk to and hear your side you throw in the nasty quiet comments. Do not accuse me of anything unless you have strong back up. first I did not need OBcare I am on Medicare and a supplement I pay for. now if you think I belong in the dark ages , I don’t care!!!!! But don’t act like it was my fault that stupid Ob care
fell apart or we asked for it. He was the one that adopted it. and that was for his purpose. I won’t even say , because I do not want to upset your beliefs. Look if you have that strong of a belief in Mrs. Hillary that is fine. I do not want to burst your bubble . as an American you have rites like the rest of us. just do not constantly throw them in our face. You come to us we do not go to you. Then you can’t wait to belittle mostly me, and I am the only one that gives you the time of day. Do you think that is fair cause if you do I will cut you off of my site. I am sorry to do this but I will not take your disrespect. I did nothing to earn it. OK I have more people that want to ask me questions. I may skip the rest of your comments . maybe if I cool down or wake up we can talk again.
oh my goodness are you crazy? Your friend won’t make it to the finals. Sorry. playing a little catch up. this is for the posts you put in all 20 0f them very long boring useless ones . just be glad you did it when they weren’t around. If I were you I would think about playing hide and seek for awhile.
I’m so sorry you find my posts so long and boring. I’m just trying to
explain myself, what I believe, and why I believe it, isn’t that why
forums exist.
Or is it to 1) write three or four lines of invective using very colorful
swear words, letting the recipient just what he/she thinks of the
writer.
or is it to 2) write a statement like “if you only knew what Obama
is saying about us and our friends” and then not tell anyone
just what Obama is saying about us, but we are left to assume that
you know what you are talking about and that Obama is truly an
evil man – take your word for it.
now this is the craziest thing. you going to keep posting all day and saying nothing.
I am a firm believer of respect. but I am also a firm believer of telling the truth. Maybe it is not what some people want to hear , but it will be the truth. And that is the way it is.
Maybe you should know what he calls us and a lot of our friends in a different country!!!
Maybe you should tell me what he calls us and a lot of our friends
in a different country.
No/ reply
What and start world war 3. lets get something straight I owe you nothing , no explanations at all. I do not have to acknowledge you. not after you tried to play me like a fiddle. what is wrong with you. go do the laundry or cut the grass or clean your house, anything but be here . and do not ask me again I will not answer you. you have lost any respect I had for you.
You bailed out once before. And that too was when I asked
you to explain yourself.
When people are on any kind of forum, and I would think most
especially a political forum, they appear to exchange ideas,
and then explain their ideas.
You made a statement. You said I should know what Obama
calls us and a lot of our friends in a different country. You did
not explain who is “us” (Americans? Right-wingers?) or our
friends (again Americans? Allies? Christians?)
If whatever Obama had to say to whomever, it hasn’t started WWIII
yet so I’m pretty sure that your divulgence on a forum that seems
to be attended by less than 50 people is not going to endanger
either the World or the USA.
As with the last time, this is simply another instance in which
you can’t give me an answer so you try to assign the blame to
me. Nice try. No cigar.
oh stop it, now you are being petty. I told you I do not owe you an answer. when I give you one you say I did not. because you did not like it. So forget it. If you weren’t so nasty maybe I would answer you. but when someone is deliberately trying to make me look bad an don’t deny it you have been at me for months now for no good reason. So stop the game playing and step aside so other people can post. you are so delusional and I don’t need the aggravation. Most of us are trying to figure out how to survive and you want to talk about your President and what a good man he is and how we are prospering from his time in office. go find some else to brag to..
“you can’t demand respect you have to earn it. and that is the way it
should be. yes that is the way we were taught. We were told as kids if
you want people to respect you, you have to show respect also.”
For the sake of argument: How would you put that with parents?
There are some people who are not ordinary citizens. Parents are
one example. You respect your parents unless that is not possible.
Your boss would be another. And your President is another. Then
you ask yourself, why can’t I respect him? Is he breaking the law or
is he seriously ruining the country, or is he just not pushing and
approving of things that you don’t like.
And if you are yes to the first two, explain yourself.
I have been taught respect from an early age. and I earned it also all thru my life. I
do believe that some people do not deserve respect. They certainly don’t give respect so why do you think they would deserve it.? I gave you the respect as much as you deserve. I have been telling that to people on Disqus as long as I have been on here almost three years. There have been a few that did not come close to deserving it. I certainly do not have a list of people to remind me not to respect.
If I do not respect you there has got to be a good reason. areal good reason, god does not tell me who I have to respect . He knows I have a brain to figure that out.
Bottom line is if you are a good person and have respect for a person you will get that back. oK I will not tell you anything about our president so don’t even try , I wasn’t born yesterday, I can tell when I have to keep my mouth shut. nice try . oK ,got to go . have a good day.
Ahhhhh. Now it comes back to me. Good ole liberalistic, commie Dutch.. Hey asshole. If you love Ovomit so much, why don’t you see if you can marry the little fag. LOL
I am already married, but thanks for the suggestion.
What is your husband’s name Jerry ( Moonbeam ) Brown
No, but that is a nice name and I have no reason to
believe he is not a nice man also.
Gee, dykeboy, I seem to remember all of the names leftist pukes called Mr. Bush!!
I’m betting you can’t remember much of anything, thanks to
your inebriation, but perhaps you would like to try. Just
what were those names we called Mr. Bush? We said a lot
of things about his politics that were not complimentary. No
doubt about that. The conservatives were saying pretty much
the same thing. And if I remember correctly, Laura Bush was
pretty much off limits all together.
Blather on Oblame-o leg humper. How’s that tingle running up your leg? LMAO!!
I seem to remember all of the names leftist pukes called Mr. Bush!!”
Refresh my memory. I do remember that we intensely didn’t like his
policies. But except for the National Guard fiasco, I don’t remember
much of anything being said about his personal life, or any amusing
names that he was given. AND his wife and daughters were
completely off limits.
Ahhhh dutch the bullshitter is back. Did you bring daisy douchebag with you?? Ha! No asshole, they taught me to call an apple, an apple, and douchebags, douchebags! And what I see in your halfbreed hero is nothing more than a pile of camel shit! You can admire his sorry, mooselum, communist ass all you want. That just tells a lot about you and your honey, daisy douchebag!!
Whenj I’m replying about a PIECE OF SHIT, yes, I have fabulous name for the little bastard
KLHG: Was this supposed to be informative or just
bragging?
P.S. How many kids actually went to school in the
1900’s?
No it was not meant to be bragging. My point is that kids in conservative areas or charter or Christian schools get a much better education. At least once a week there is a story of violence inpublic schools & a teacher getting hit. Even home schooled kids are much more articulate than average public
schools. It also depends on state you live in. We happen to live in a smaller town that has excellent schools but I don’t have children in school. It has nothing to do with how many students. My mother who has been dead for many years was one of 12 children. They were poor. She didn’t attend college but they all graduated from high school. My mother had excellent grammar & spelling. She was an avid reader & loved to read history. She told me there is no excuse for ignorance. She said if you couldn’t afford to buy books, the library was a good resource.
Our classes when I was in school had more students but we didn’t have the behavior problems. Why should kids who disrupt class be allowed to stay in class? Put them in a room with bars & don’t bother other students. Confiscate weapons and give them books to read. We teach to lowest common denominator. We spend more per student than any country except maybe Switzerland & our performance continues to drop.
I see that Grammar is not a genetic trait. “Put them in a room with bars ” . I see christianity works on you
I see spelling is a problem for you. I had excellent grammar. Unfortunately I got a disability that inteferes with sleeping causes memory loss. I used to be an RN on busy cardiac floors. I saved many lives over 38 years so I don’t need you to validate my self esteem.
STFU and who asked you?
Connie: As a Christian I highly resent your language and
attitude about so many things.
Stupid libTURD post! Capitalize Christian, no matter what kind of leftist twat you are.
There is no law that requires anyone to capitalize christian or god. As a non-believer,christianity & god are insignificant to me, so why bother? MORON!!!!
‘Christianity” is a proper name, as is Buddhism. “God” can be capitalized or uncapitalized depending upon intent and context. And if I were you, I wouldn’t be calling anyone else “moron”.
Osama Obama: Don’t use the world Christian at all. You
are a poor representative of that religion.
I would like to say something a lot of you might have a problem with , but you know I will say it anyway. I think parents have to understand that school is never over. When they come home they have homework. And this is where the parents should consider helping. if you want your child to excel in school help him to achieve that goal. It isn’t the schools job once they are out for the day to keep them interested. if you wanted kids that is a big part of it. I realize both parents are working and get very tired and would like to rest. but that is not how it works. you are a parent, please try and be one. Sit and talk to them find out what is going on in there life. Make sure you meet their friends. and do not be afraid to ask questions. Take the time with them to explain the world around them and what to look out for . You want them to be aware of the way things are going. And teach them how to be safe. There re so many things you can do to keep your kids happy and smart in school. bless all the parents out their. also teach them family life is very important. And if you can squeeze it in teach them respect.
Remember that kind of training starts at an early age. i disagree with the room and bars. if we have to do that then both teacher and parents have not done their job. It is not up to the teacher to train your child. You as a parent should know better than anyone how to teach your child. like I said that should start at an early age. no pre school should be responsible for rearing your child. it is not their job to do that. So parents it is up to you. Try and teach them about rules and regulations. Why? because they will be faced with that the rest of their lives. So they might as well learn it is better to follow them and be happy than not and be miserable.
How do parents counter the behaviors taught through peer pressure? If teachers have no responsibility for training children, then isn’t it possible for a teacher – not having some standard of behavior – to overlook behaviors that carry wrong messages? I believe most people want children to be good, honest, trustworthy, well-mannered… but who is to reinforce those qualities while the children are in school?
I am sorry but I think if you have children then you are responsible for raising them. no one else. teachers are teachers not trainers. They should be teaching. if a parent can’t control their child they need to get help. It is not the teachers job. and it shouldn’t be. nor should the teachers be telling the parents they have to get the kids on drugs to calm them down. That is the biggest worst thing they can do to a child. they get the Dr. involved and of course they take the teachers word for it. I have seen this happen over, and, over. it is a sad practice that they have gotten into and someone has to put a stop to it. Start with the parents find out what they want to do.
I agree with most of what you say, but I was referring to the peer pressure of rude, ill-mannered children, and how they can influence others to form bad habits. There has to be some sort of standard allowing teachers to adjust behaviors that are not generally socially acceptable, otherwise the classroom becomes a laboratory for experiments in anarchy, or experiments with the drugs you mention. I ask because the education system is adding large numbers of “dumbed down” young people into society. That system needs to be redifined, and I’m seeking ideas to add to my own.
I hear you.. But when do we make the parents responsible for their offspring. I am sure most kids did not get that way from school. The parents have to learn that they cant push their children off for someone else to raise if you don’t want what comes after the 6 weeks leave from work . then don’t have children. weather you believe it or not they want a parent around. That whole medication process should be banned. I saw how bad that whole thing works. if I an help in anyway please let me know! One more thing the parent tart has a child that you describe needs special care I will bet they are from a broken home or abused and no one realizes. other wise both parents are working and no attention is being paid to them and their needs. see I believe that comes from home ill mannered where else would they learn . my grandson used to ask why they would be that way. my reason for saying this because they have been taught the difference at home.
Thanks for replying. I’ve been concerned about medicating school children because that can lead to some horrific developments. Lately, I’ve been encouraging my friends and the acquaintances made in these discussions to organize home schooling groups in unused church buildings. The public school system needs to be abandoned – or God-fearing people need to get elected to the school boards and make some adjustments.
my sentiments totally. he only problem I have is the parents are not paying attention to what they are being told . now that is scary. children learn very early in life what they can get away with, and if left alone that is the way they will be the rest of their life. now the second scary thing is the women that don’t want to stay home. and they find any argument they can to justify that.
I just think when you say God fearing people to be in charge of the school board. I think you have to first find out what they think and how would they solve the a problem you give them. they have to prove what they are. not walk in and say I wan the job.
Thank you! Your good ideas are the reason I am really happy I met you. I’m formulating a plan that will incorporate what you have contributed. Ideally, it should be implemented by a political party, but I truly believe that anyone motivated by Divine love, desiring to serve the public good, will have no trouble taking this plan, adjusting it as needed, and implementing it. Even atheists are fearful of godless hoodlums, dressing like gangsters and acting the part roaming the streets, invading homes, and committing all sorts of other crimes. But atheists have none of the answers to society’s problems. Well, they have recommended jail time… but that experience most often reinforces mind sets, and provides greater access to more criminal knowledge. More later. I’ve only begun to give my attention to this. .
Wow,, I think you are making me happy because I have been working for this day for a long time. I think kids get the short end of the stick these days. They have no home life. I am serious about it . the parents want to be where they want to be. Kids don’t know their cousins., spend maybe once a year with their grandparents. because grandma lives far away. and no money to buy a plane ticket because they are so expensive and driving is to hard for a 12 or 24 hour drive. when did we lose our desire to be a family and love our kids enough to stay home and raise them. My God, what has happened to us. besides being spoiled and demanding . I am becoming ashamed of what we have turned into. If we are going to do anything at all to make this a better world, we better do it quick before we anger God anymore. I am not saying everybody is like that this. just a hearty % and that is scary. I don’t know if we can make them listen. I don’t care if they are black or white. both are to blame. I would hate to leave our children and grandchildren a world that will destroy them. And who would they turn to for help? the devils that took our country from us because we let them.
We share concerns, and I am angry about what is happening to our nation – and I fear for the children. I posted the following comment several times. You may have seen it, but others may need to read it. Meanwhile, I have taken the first step toward implementing the plan that was inspired by my prayers for this God-given Republic.
We are still a blessed nation. The fact is, we are infected with a disease that only the Lord can cure. We believers are His eyes and ears in the earth, and as we call His attention to the problems we discover, He will act to correct them. George Washington and Abraham Lincoln set the standard of behavior for national leaders. Neither was hesitant to call for prayer when calamity befell the nation. Today there is no one to intercede for us, other than We, the People. And one effective prayer is Psalm 37.
We may not have courageous Christian leaders in the halls of government willing to stand for God and nation, but we are still a Christian nation, and the Lord Jesus is still our Advocate, and God is our Savior, King, and Defender. Neither are we living in Sodom, unless we turn on the TV and invite the sodomites into our homes. As the Founders discovered (and the education system ripped it from our collective memory) the kingdom is within us. This God-given nation is alive and well in our hearts and minds. And when God raises up the leader we collectively petition Him for, the victory will be ours.
The United States isn’t mentioned in prophecy even though Scripture suggests its necessity, but it is no coincidence that this nation – the first of its kind – was founded on Judeo-Christian principles. The Founders warned us more than once that tyranny would raise its deformed head. They advised that there is no alternative to defending liberty and freedom with all our strength. To that end, we must cast aside the weaker faith that is produced by doubtful hope and be self-disciplined with faith that springs from certainty.
HI, THE MORE I THOUGHT ABOUT WHAT YOU SAID AND THEN THE LIGHT CAME ON. WE ARE DISCUSSING AN OTHER DIFICULT PROBLEM. AND THEY ARE NOTBEING TREATED AT ALL IN THIS DISCUSSION. MEANING WE HAVE TO INCLUDE THE BLACK PEOPLE AS PARENTS THAT NEED DRECTION IN RAISING THERE CHILDREN SAME AS WHITE PARENTS. I SEE ITNOW. IT IS NOT A GOOD POLICY TO FORGET ABOUT THEM . LIKE SOMEONE SAID YOU HAVE TO FIND THE PROBLEM BEFORE YOU CAN FIX IT. THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THE WORLD WILL NOT SURVIVE THE WAY IT IS AND WE ALL HAVE TO DO THE RIGHT THING TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. SO THEY HAVE TO KNOW THAT THEY WILL RECEIVE THE SAME TREATMENT GIVEN TO OTHERS IN THIS WORLD. WE WILL FIND A WAY TO HELP THEM BUT NOT BY HAND OUTS. THEY HAVE TO LET THE CHILDREN KNOW THAT THEY WILL GO TO SCHOOL EVERY DAY TO LEARN AND NOT OT PLAY AND DISRUPT THE CLASS BUT TO LEARN . AND GRADUATE AND BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES. NOT SEE WHO THEY CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF . I THINLONCE WE GET OUR COUNTRY BACK AGAIN THINGS WILL BE SO DIFFERENT. AND MAAYBE WITH GODS HELP WE WILL BE A BETTER PLACE . BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO GET IT TOGETHER. AND WE WILL ANY HELP WE CAN GET.
I am acquainted with two mature black men. We talked quite frankly about God, and life, and politics – until “Whazzizname” first ran for office. These men accepted the bait, and voted for color as opposed to cause. They believed their choice could do no wrong. One man has relatives in Ferguson, and the community’s restlessness has made him fearful for his sisters’ families. They haven’t said it, but there is in their conversation an undercurrent of disappointment in the administration. Both men are Christian, and both wonder why nothing is being done about the murders in Africa. Both wonder their “brother” is avoiding Israel. Neither wants to admit that their “brother” is a Muslim.
They viewed “Whazzizname” as a “brother” who rose above the hardships that come with the color of their skin and gained a seat of power denied to every white person who ran the race. Now they are not so sure about this “brother”. They’re faced with a very hard decision, and wherever they turn they must meet sincere God-fearing people who are willing to carry their faith into the political ring. A few years ago, they were telling their children with pride that in America they could accomplish anything. Now they are faced with increasing evidence that their “brother” has betrayed America, and their trust as well, pushing back Martin Luther King’s content of character sentiment 50 years.
I continue to say “my plan” but it is really a plan that God revealed to me as I was praying for our nation. I’m only one man, supported by no organization or church group. Yet, all my needs are met. Most of the people I know are not involved in much more than the TV Guide. But I’m one man who has, in the past few months, received guidance from God that has been undeniably confirmed. And I believe that as I follow His guidance He will prepare my way and open the doors.
Good job , someone up their is looking out for you. I will tell you like they tell me. cover your back . you never know. I am dead serious. What you are attempting to do is a challenge . So just be very careful .
and trust no one.
Isn’t it interesting how concerns can prompt expressions? Progressive socialist agitators (PSAs) use insults and foul language to anger and provoke lovers of America into replying with what seems like the only definite response. Those confrontations prompted me to interfere and remind the defenders of America that ” AT THIS TIME the weapons of our warfare are prayer and the ballot box”.
My family was alarmed by my participation. And when the paid agitators, commenting on my posts, began implying that I could be silenced, some who cared about me advised me to stop. It was too late. My mind and heart were filled with the advice, teaching, and faith of the Founders – who were totally grounded by the Word of God.
Patrick Henry, the Lion of Liberty, who, along with George Mason, is author of the Bill of Rights, asked:
“…Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death!”
This was met with cries of treason, but Henry prevailed, and a new nation was eventually formed. But some in America continued the old European ways of thinking, seeking to benefit themselves and their party at the expense of the common man.
Henry, still believing in God, still hopeful for the Republic, had an answer for this challenge also. He said, ”
If I am asked what is to be done when
a people feel themselves intolerably oppressed, my answer is ready: ‘Overturn the government.’ But… Wait at least until some infringement of your rights cannot be otherwise redressed; for you may bid adieu forever to representative government. You can never exchange the present government but for a monarchy.”
This, too, is a bright guiding light; the most direct answer to the current affairs of our government: “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.”
– Abraham Lincoln, Lincoln Memorial
Victor, you are right , but I won’t scare you. I will suggest. I think if we use our head and elect the right person as our president, we should be able to make everything work the way the people would like to see their world also I think God will b every happy. I know who I want DR.Ben Carson.
I think that we the people is the best way to put, have to take the constitution and read it over an over until everyone understands What it stands for and decides that they will live by the rules as best we can. if you don’t like it then you are not a true American. my point being if you want to do whatever you please and make your rules. go live where you can do that. not here we need good leadership. A strong person that loves his/or her country so much they are willing to fight for it. And someone that isn’t afraid of to talk peace with other countries , but knows when they are not telling the truth. Also someone that can get a good healthcare plan implemented as quick as possible. one that will help everyone. Our veterans should be paid more and taken care of better. That is why I think DR. Carson would be the best president. my grandson just came over and I asked him about school. he said it was ok except they have no recess from the 6 th grade to the 12 grade. He said all the teachers are democrats. I was shocked to hear that. I asked them if they would like to see some changes in school. they said no. I think I caught them off guard because when I asked if they have been told who they should pray to and can you fly your flag and do they tell you other things you should do. I got no answer. So I am not sure about that one. oK. I have to go feed the boys they are hungry.
The Tea Party published “The Constitution Made Easy”. And the book really does make the document easy to read and understand. I haven’t seen much of Dr. Carson, but I respect him enough to give him my attention when he speaks. And you’re right about what needs to be done. And that person must support the reorganization of the public school system, bring sanity to the IRS, AND encourage Congress to clean out the activist judges from the Supreme Court. As for school, the children have no basis for comparison. With no idea of what’s been lost, they have no way of judging the value of what’s being offered. The best way to judge is to sit in on a few classes.
JUST WATCH YOU BACK, NO ONE CAN OR SHOULD BE TRUSTED. WHOEVER YOUTHINK THEY ARE.
Thank you. But the socialist agitators or community developers, as they are commonly known, don’t use copyrighted material. They’re effective because they are trained to identify potential leaders, stir their anger and selfish desires, and persuade them in thinking. Then, and only then, are the leaders-in-training assigned duties to recruit like-minded people. It’s a perversion of the instruction given to the disciples. They’re marching with the enemies of God and America. On the other hand, I follow Omnipresent God; He has my back.
GEE who would have thought. Well that interesting. These are the same people that got us where we are. in trouble. ok I don’t know about you but they are going to be in wonderland land trying to figure out what happened and how they got their. I don’t see the need for a college graduate to do what needs to be done just common sense maybe a little street sense. I am not saying no one should go to college, I think when they are thru they lose the meaning of life as it should be. and think they have to go by the book. I know someone very close that applied for a job and got it. And when the lady left for another offer she and the lady were friends . She recommended her for her job and the co. said ok. She knew nothing about the field she ventured into but she maid it a point to learn from day one. And now she is the head of five different units. she is the GM. very happy making good money . I guess they count on her for everything. So you see what I mean. .
There was a time in this country when employers encouraged people to read. I arranged with four college professors to be mentored through a four year Earth Science program, with a journalism minor. My college newspaper articles opened the door to a successful journalism career, only cut short because the industry largely turned left just as I was beginning to understand that America needed a right turn. The letters of recommendation are more valuable than any degree.
Sometime later, I enjoy knowing I an in a league with many others, and two noteworthy are: Abraham Lincoln – widely recognized as one of the greatest leaders in American history -did not attend Law school, or serve as an apprentice, or take a Bar Exam. He said “All I have learned, I learned from books.”
And Ray Bradbury said: “I’m completely library educated. I’ve never been to college. I went down to the library when I was in grade school in Waukegan, and in high school in Los Angeles, and spent long days every summer in the library.”:
I guess I was right. college is a good thing but if you can not afford it you d the next best thing read. Ilistened to DR.Carson speak allot and it is funny because he said the same thing his mother insisted they read all the time. he said htat is how he learned so much.
A book., “The Life Long Learner”, was a great help to many people.. The author described why and how he used libraries to create PhD degree programs for himself. By the way, my Grandmother started me on the road to reading when she took me, at 6, to the library and pointed to the books and told me some would become good friends that I would want to visit many times.
Grandmothers are priceless. nobody realizes this as they should. Victor, did you see the news this morning? They are warning that ISIS is going to attack the us now. I have not finished reading it. But they have a few cities they think will be attacked. And of course their were some that say this is ridiculous. Why? they wouldn’t think trying to penetrating our highly protected areas. We still have people that can’t believe that it will happen. Be safe.
I think many expected this ISIS report. Remember Paris? “Whazzizname” said the murders were a random act of “hoodlums”? French authorities put the correct label on it, but the administration blindly followed their leader. They followed their conniving leader when he called the massacre at Ft. Hood “workplace violence”. I’ll say this – if I lived in a metropolitan area, I would obey the Lord’s instruction. Jesus addressed the coming unrest at Luke 11:21, and Luke 22:35-36, the Scriptures supporting our the Second Amendment Right. We don’t pay taxes or assessment to use the First Amendment, and I see no reason to pay any fee for using the Second Amendment either.
You ask, Why? It can’t be answered. ISIS and Muslim terrorists ignore that question. Barriers mean nothing to them. They have been conditioned to believe dying for their beliefs brings them great rewards in the next life. Better to believe and prepare.
Victor, yeah the great rewards they were promised was 72 virgins. I have to ask this question. first of all they are dead and probably going to hell. And why would having 72 dead virgins be a challenge to any man. They are dead for gods sake How much fun could that be. And they are not going to be happy when they realize they got nothing.
The religious leaders are more passionate to win the terrorist war than NFL coaches are passionate to win the Super Bowl. Terrorist are on fire, driven to murderous madness by the heat and flames that have consume them. They believe that their deity approves their actions and upon death they will enter paradise and gain eternal life. The virgins are supposed to be their reward for obedience. Remember, the indoctrination begins in the childhood years. By the time they’re 8 or 10, their ability to reason is completely shut down.
So victor what does that tell you. We are dealing with a bunch of brainless murderers. We have to be a step ahead of them because they do not pay attention to anything but what they know best . and we have to figure them out and find the best way to deal with them. Maybe we can offer them 100 virgins instead of 72. I can not believe they are that disturbed that they follow someone that tells them something and they believe it.
An entire education awaits someone who is interested in “mass hypnotism”. Google “Hitler and mass hypnosis”, and you’ll understand the process, and how it can be used for good or evil purposes. “Whazzizname” is using it very effectively – he’s trading entitlements for support, tarnishing Christianity, protecting the Muslim terrorists by calling them something else. Lies told often enough become truth for the ignorant, and a death sentence for the knowing.
Consider how “Wazzizname” personally absents himself from catastrophes – Ferguson, France, Africa and elsewhere. President Lincoln visited the Civil War battlefield at Antietam, Maryland. Did this “Wannabe” make a personal appeal for calm on any front line in America or the world?
The unbelievers complain that the Bible is filled with stories about God’s killing. They have no concept, no understanding of the danger of polluted thinking on society. If the liberal crowd were in charge of world affairs, ISIS – without any restraints – would be killing Catholics and Protestants, Buddhists and Hindus and converting cathedrals, churches and temples into mosques, and converting progressive socialists to Islam.
There’s only one answer for bedbugs. You’ve heard the message – commercial mass hypnosis in action – it ends with “Not in my house!”
OH Wow Victor, that was perfect. Bravo, that was real and scary. Maybe that will open a few peoples eyes.
It seems that others are waking up. There are more conversations appearing in these pages.
Victor, did you see the post I got from a gal in the UK late last night? I thought that was beautiful. they were sending prayers for all Americans.
I haven’t been able to find the post, but I’m not surprised. We have a common enemy, but England has a different set of underlying problems. Bonding through prayer is the major task facing us all.
It was so nice to hear that the were sending us prayers and they would continue to do so. that has a lot of power to it. I wish we could do the same thing. I had a prayer sunday I had a lot of people join me , but not enough to care. we had several people in different states pray with us. that was great. All I could say is if you have never said a prayer in your life Please pick now to open your heart to any god you normally believe in within reason. I do not care what you believe in as long as it real. and the supreme being is not going to be angry, remember he mad several religions to try and make everyone happy. And one more thing , if you disagree with me I do not mind, I just would yo ulike you to understand right now we have to ge trid of the devil and his henchman lurking around getting ready to for us to give up
I want to say never will we give up trying to keep our people safe and our childrena home to grow up in a world without having to worry how they will live. That is
enough to make me want to pray 24 hrs a day cause I know it works . And the more we pray the more power we will have. so everyone please stop worrying about what is in it for you . Because only God has that answer. Can we please do that . I told others the same. I am not going to spend my lst days begging for you to understand what we have to do . And trust me it is not asking you for that much. nothing physical. just pray quietly. Just remember the UK is praying for us all the time. If they care shouldn’t you? Ok, I have to go , I am not sure you will hear from me again. but God bless you and keep you safe and give you the knowledge so that you understand what is required to help s get rid of this evil that wants us all. But we will never allow that to happen.
Be steadfast in faith, casting all cares upon God, because He cares for you. One of my favorite prayers for America is from George Washington’s prayer journal:
“Bless the people of this land, be a Father to the fatherless, a Comforter to the comfortless, a Deliverer to the captives, and a Physician to the sick. Let Thy blessing be upon our friends, kindred and families. Be our Guide this day and forever through Jesus Christ in whose blessed form of prayer I conclude my weak petitions — Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be Thy Name… “
Did this “Wannabe” make a personal appeal for calm on any front line in America or the world
What this wannabe was has done is avoid war. My son
has not been called back into the marines to fight another
war. Just how many wars do you have to have in one life
time to satisfy your lust for war. I’ll bet you masturbate with
a gun in your hand.
HMMMM, what would I do with 72 virgins? give them to 72 men, they can not handle 72 by themselves as much as they might think they can, or wish they could. just kidding guys . Don’t get your Hanes in a bunch.
They are warning that ISIS is going to attack the us now.”
Oh no. Run, hide, load your gun, The end is near.
Almost sounds like DR. Ben’s life story.
It should be the story of many others. We need people who understand the law – not to practice, but for the ability to explain the system. The same for economics and campaigning..
Interesting that you should ay that we have a few guys that know a lot
Make sure they know they are appreciated. And just in case, it’s important to collect books about health, herbal medicine and plant identification, and injury care. Think about the devastating earthquake across the world. All those people with no place to go. An open wound in such an environment can lead to infection, if not properly cared for. Given the circumstances, it would be nice to pick up a well stocked back pack before running for safety. Especially if children are present.
I got that covered, I have 3 sources
I hear you . but we can only do so much. You know what sticks in my head. Every time we come close to getting rid of you know who. We have a disaster. Don’t you think that is a little odd?
Disasters are Divine warnings that bad decisions on the national and international level are being made. Two passages of Scripture, II Chronicles 7:13-14 and Zephaniah 2:1-7 explain it. “Whazzizname” is attracting God’s wrath almost daily. He will be driven to his knees, begging for mercy. I’ve had the awareness for a couple of years that the one God called to condemn this man is fearful of being obedient, just as Jonah was. It is not beyond the realm of possibility that the one called was at the prayer breakfast.
And that episode points up my reason for saying we need people who know, who are self-educated. Look at the comments of progressive socialists. Filled with half truths and twisted facts impossible to debate. Yet their agitation can be put to use against them.
For example, one of the slaves of anti-Christ comments below that “the Bible is boring”. There is no argument against the statement. Unbelievers – blind to the Light – cannot read it. Deaf to the truth of their being, they can’t hear God’s voice in its pages. Yet the Bible is the only source that teaches how to apply peace, joy and love, for the common good of society; the only Book that can reform sinners into saints, and give hope to anyone despairing of hope.
My calling is to the Bible and to American history. Someone else may be called to the subjects we discussed. When the time comes, we had better be prepared to meet the challenges, especially if the worst occurs. We will require well educated people to keep order and structured organizations in our displaced communities.
Look at the comments of progressive socialists. Filled with half truths and twisted facts impossible to debate.
This statement by someone who wrote :”Whazzizname” is attracting God’s wrath almost daily. He will be driven
to his knees, begging for mercy. I’ve had the awareness for a couple
of years that the one God called to condemn this man is fearful of being
obedient, just as Jonah”
Dutch – stop wasting your time. You can’t pin labels on anyone. However, you are a poster child for progressive socialists. Your posts betray you. Meanwhile, get started on your homework. It’s for your own good – unless you’re satisfied with being ignorant. George Washington left one hundred and forty thousand documents. Quite an array of material from which to choose. You have a computer – research ten or 15, and get to work! I’m expecting to hear from you in a month or two.
I don’t recall denying for one minute that I am a socialist.
I would say that a socialist is exactly what I am, but ”
socialist” has such a broad range of meanings, so I will
say this, – I am not knocking on the door of communism.
And is there any particular reason why I should or would
read 140,000 documents left by George Washington? I’m
just not that interested.
And even more often disasters happen because people
don’t use their heads. What was the very first command
that God gave to people in the Garden. Tend my Garden.
And what are you doing about Global warming? You
know, besides denying it.
Dutch – Get started on your homework. Global warming wasn’t part of the assignment. You’re attempt to start a discussion on national sin is beyond your understanding. Recall, George Washington left 140,000 (one hundred forty thousand) documents. That’s enough for now.
I will ask my homeopathic dr. for her input on drugs and plants I have a lot of books already and mail from DR’s
She wood be great to have at a meeting as a guest speaker.
You really are afraid, aren’t you? Wow. Why don’t you
find yourself a nice self-contained island, and take your
like-minded friends with you. You ain’t going to win your
war here. But from what I am hearing, I guess you are
one of those McVeigh sort of people who just sort of
automatically hate government and are willing to kill to
make your beliefs known.
Dutch, I’ve finally read some of your other posts. Until I did, I actually believed you were seeking the truth. Based on what you have written, I now believe that if you witnessed ISIS terrorists killing Christians, you’d be impelled to claim the Christians must have offended the terrorists, because that’s how paid agitators operate.
You suggest I move to an island? I suggest you remain in the socialist controlled land you no doubt live in. Your mind is already enslaved by the enemies of God. You’re in need of specialized prayer to free you from the dark force that controls you. I thought your demon was ignorance, but it isn’t. Your demon is the adversary of God.
That is not to say I might not respond to your posts. You provide me with opportunities to reach any other reader who is interested in the facts about American history and the role religion filled in assuring a strong foundation for the nation. And I can thank you for that, and that’s why I thank God for you. It’s a mystery, but even Judas, betraying Jesus, was serving God’s purpose.
But what war are you talking about? Do you hope that by your ramblings, added to the ramblings of other agitators, you will tempt someone into violent activity? Are all of you being paid to create the condition “Whazzizname” needs to declare martial law? Don’t answer that. I don’t want you to lose your job and have to rely on the crumbs your socialist government hands out to failures.
Believe me, there are too many responsible Christian former military people to go off like loose grenades.
No, you would be wrong about the ISIS thing. I find extremists
in anything to be dangerous and self-serving. And I do not
want to be in any part of such groups and organizations.
What is constantly irritating to me is that so many people
just love to assume that all Muslims are ISIS types. It just
simply is not the truth. Most Christians or patriots are not
like the Timothy McVeighs of this world either. A little
knowledge is a dangerous thing.
And where do you get this outrageously crazy idea that
I am hoping there will be violence in our nation? That is
as stupid as saying that Democrats favor food stamps
because we want to get people to vote for Democrats.
That takes a certain mentality that not only do I not have
but it scares me.
You show no respect for our government or its elected
leaders. I have discovered that there are those around
us who see that as an admirable trait. But never in my
life, until I arrived here, have a seen or heard a person
who calls himself a clergyman call our President
“Whazzizname” That is sickening, shameful, and
terribly childish.
Don’t worry about my job. I work in my husband’s
office. He has been open for business since the
early 1980’s and is doing just fine, thank you very
much. We now have offices in 3 states and
it has become a several million dollar company. It
certainly wasn’t always that way. We had some
really rough times, first in the earliest years, and then
about 10 years down the road when lots of businesses,
especially those in telecom were experiencing rough
times. The funny thing is that the really big turn
around came just about the time that Obama took
office. I will write that off to co-incidence, but two
weeks after he took the throne, we got a $2 million
dollar order from the government, and 3 weeks later
it was paid in full. Thank you Sir Whazzizname.”
I had no idea you were a woman. From your writing I was persuaded that you were a socialist progressive agitator bent on disrupting the conversations and stirring up angry responses.
I noticed you that came to the U.S. from elsewhere. That explains much about you not knowing authentic American history. And from your defense of the “administration”, I conclude that you must have lived in a socialist democracy. I can understand your support of the “administration, too. You have benefited greatly from the capitalist system – achieving the American dream. I congratulate you and you husband for your accomplishment.
You are correct about one thing. I don’t have much respect for the some of the elected officials. Or maybe I should say, I have as much respect for the officials claiming some kind of Christian faith as Jesus had for the stubborn Jews – and I paraphrase John 8:39: “If they were followers of Jesus, they would do the works of Jesus.” And I do not apologize. I don’t fit the image displayed by most clergymen – or clergywomen, for that matter. I don’t wear a collar, I have never preached from the pulpit wearing a robe. I won’t hesitate to preach on a sidewalk, or in a park. I don’t hesitate to speak to a person for whom God gives me a word of knowledge. and when someone expresses a need, my prayers for healing or God’s intercession have usually been answered. All my needs are met through faith.
I belong to no organization, or Christian denomination. I am a disciple of the morals and ethics of Jesus of Nazareth; a believer and adherent of the Judeo-Christian principles on which this nation was founded. My religious schooling led me to a doctorate in Divine Metaphysics, which is the application of spiritual law to the problems of daily life. If i were Jewish, I would be a rabbi, a Mosaic Law scholar. If I were Buddhist, I’d be a Monk. if Catholic, a member of a missionary order or parish priest. I am, however, a practitioner of New Testament Law, of which there are more than a few. (Most people mistakenly believe the New testament is filled with suggestions – but those teachings are commandments – more demanding by far than the Mosaic Law.
I do not have a pulpit at this time; nor do I need one. My platform is anywhere I place my feet. My pulpit is the hand in which I hold the Bible. My mission field is the internet, or a street corner, or a quiet grocery store aisle.
Nor am I a child; I have a sense of humor that flows from an uncommon joy that results from living the Godly life, and that trips up most of the adults I’ve met.For example, I was once bumped by a car that drifted into a crosswalk as I was crossing with a green light. I was knocked down, and a couple of people, concerned, rushed to my aid. They helped me up, and i yelled, “Forget about me! Check the car; I’m not insured for pedestrian walking!” That incident opened the way for me to glorify God that I was bruised but not injured.
I am pleased to say that God answers most of my personal prayers without delay – but I am careful what I pray for.
And I’ll make a promise to you. When the “administration” calls press conferences and condemns the murders of all those African Christians, and promises to airlift the survivors to some haven; when the “administration” condemns the burning of Christians’ homes and churches, and begins to tell the truth to Americans about Muslim terrorists, and condemns the rockets and suicide bombers inflicting death and destruction in Israel, and ceases the attacks on the U.S, Constitution, I’ll consider calling “Wazzizname” by his rightful name. But you must admit, my choice of apelation is better than all the others floating around these sites.
When all you can do is engage in ad hominem arguments, you have already LOST the argument itself.
OK Victor, I hear you. I think I can find somebody to help with that. Do you have a special area that you want info on. the system is pretty big , and there is a lot of garbage in it also.
I need to know what you want for basic stuff. or deeper? economics such as political? I see where you are gong and that is a good place to start. And campaigning are you talking cost to do it or just a general idea as to how t works. I ran for mayor of my city so I am familiar with how it works. I hate to say this but it all needs addressing . We are so bad when it comes to that part. This last election proved that to me they did everything wrong both sides. The money they spent was horrifying. But they did not care because they kept hitting us for it. every day I had about 5,000 with and more that they wanted from me. How did they get so out of hand. and why would they expect us to pay for the job they wanted. When we look for work that is what we do, look for work we have no fairy godmother that will give us thousands of dollars to lie to the people that they are supposed to protect. I am sorry but we have to wake up to reality. The money they collect goes to tell lies about the opposing candidate. and that helps the people to understand what the hell they are asking money for. I think If Mrs. Clinton is a good example . They cried we have no money. No idiots we have no money . you are a disgrace to all Americans however many are left that think you are the trying to screw the American public for whatever suits her purpose. All of a sudden she has tons of money. from where ? she has a ton of friends that are trying to take over our country and get rid of us so that she can change say “What difference does it make ” She is so money hungry, and she wants more . she does not care who gets hurt. As long as it isn’t her. OH, my goodness Victor , I am sorry I was answering your request and got sidetracked. did not mean to do that . just getting angry with the Americans that have their head in the sand and unless they don’t wake up they will be responsible for the death of everyone. and that really makes me mad. ok get back to me please.!!
Hello! My comment to you was also directed to any other patriots who read these posts. When I say “we need”, I’m describing everyone who wants to defeat tyranny. In the past few days I’ve reviewed all that has broadened my thinking about conditions in America. For example, a few minutes ago, the mayor of Baltimore was shown on Fox news. She described how, since a child, she wanted to serve her city. She didn’t like economic, but she studied the subject, along with political science, government, etc., eventually earning a law degree. Upon graduation, she ran for city council.
Someone else told a similar story – Governor Jan Brewer, a Glendale Community College graduate, who earned a radiological technologist certification. Problems in the local school board prompted her to enter the political arena. These two self-motivated women, regardless of formal education, political success or failure, must be held up as examples. They each began with a dream, and the dream carried them far. And until they reveal it, we will never know the depth of their relationship to the Creator – how often – if they indeed did so – they knelt in prayer, and asked, “Lord, what next will you have me do?”
We cannot be satisfied to complain about government; we must take the steps required to solve the problems of government. Each one of us has seen courses of action laid out. What makes us angry is God’s way of awakening us, telling us to do something about it. And taking the first step by faith, He gave His Word in promise to guide us the rest of the way.
Messages like this one must be carried to Bible believing people who need to be awakened to the purpose of their anger and frustration. Such a message, directed to pastors, awakened me to the error committed by most ministers – “religion and politics don’t mix.” – and set the course for me to follow in these troubling times.
It’s good that you have organized subject matter at hand. Soon you will meet those who require it.
First, what are your complaints about the government,
and 2nd, do you intend to re-write the Constitution?
you are a disgrace to all Americans however many are left that think
you are the trying to screw the American public for whatever suits her
purpose. All of a sudden she has tons of money. from where ? she has a
ton of friends that are trying to take over our country and get rid of
us so that she can change say “What difference does it make ” She is
so money hungry, and she wants more”
Is there any liberal you would not rant about and tell lies
about? Do you think that what you said above is could be
said about every politician running for office out there. The
answer to that problem is to limit the time line in which
people can campaign for office and then get rid of the
scandalous (and I don’t use the term lightly) decree that says the corporations are the same as people and they can throw money at any candidate they want.
Well, how about this. For starters, make them ask
the stock holders who they can throw money at? It is
after all, not the CEO’s company it is on the stock market.
I
What I see is that you must have quit school by the time
you should have been in 4th grade. Your spelling and
proper use of English is atrocious. How about taking a
breath or two from your ranting and raving, and do a little
proof checking. You might want to throw in a quote or two
from a reliable source also while you are at it. I find that
Wikipedia is the one place that truly strives to be non-
biased.
,” I follow Omnipresent God; He has my back.”
Why are you so afraid all the time then?
Fear? I cast down fear in the name of Jesus, Dutch, as instructed by the Word. What makes YOU afraid? I do have concerns – such as the concern that social progressives want to change the face and heart-felt beliefs about culture, customs, and religion in the U.S. Or maybe you didn’t see Hillary yesterday on the news. I’m concerned about what America will lose if her kind is elected.
The general principles on which the fathers achieved independence were the general principles of Christianity. I will avow that I then believed, and now believe, that those general principles of Christianity are as eternal and immutable as the existence and attributes of God.
– John Adams – from a letter to Thomas Jefferson, June 28, 1813
Of course, if you believe that these are just the words of an “old dead guy”, then there is no hope for you aside from a God- delivered conversion experience, which you well may be in need of.
What makes me afraid? I’m not a person who spends a
lot of time being afraid.
I do think that you are doing big damage to the Christian
religion. But I believe in God. I believe there is one God
and that he is our Creator and our Father. Different
people and different cultures have a different way of
dealing with our creator, of understanding Him, and I think
that those who will tell us (no matter which the religion may be) that it is my way or the highway show the least amount of respect for the Creator. I am not the least bit interested in spending an eternity with a Father who is going to to
send all but the minutest portion of his creatures to an
eternal hell. From time to time I meet a earthly father
who has no respect for this offspring, and I hear about
a whole lot more. They make me angry. The make me
cringe.
Gosh, Jesus Christ must have made you cringe when He said: “I am the Way, the Truth and the Life. No one comes to the Father but by Me.” But then you sound as though you would be happy to not have to deal with Jesus. Sorry that ultimately you will not have that choice.
Please tell me that I misunderstood that you are a pastor.
Whazzizname is Obama. And I’m sure that they are disappointed, as am I. But it is not because Obama hasn’t
given it his all. It is because there has never been such
a vicious legislature working against him in the last 100 years.
Filibustering, for instance, should be considered illegal. It
does not give us the results that the people voted for. And
I don’t believe for a minute that Obama’s being black made
it any less easy for the group of sleaze bags to say the
nastiest things in the world about him. How many times
do we have to hear that he is a Muslim and a Kenyan
and other such nonsense. It is truly disgusting.
Ovomit IS a little halfbreed QUEER that they referred to as “bath house Barry” in Shitcago, he’s a mooselum and he takes his orders from ISIS because he IS ONE OF THEM. Get over the lies you have been convinced of dumbass and face up to it. This country is screwed as long as that little commie is in charge..
Hi, Dutch! Yes, I’m ordained, a pastor and evangelist, and yes, “Whazzizname” is that fellow. As for his nature, he showed his true self when he bowed his head to the King of Saudi Arabia – the guardian of the twin most important sites to Islam – after his first election. He acknowledged his loyalty to Islam when he described the terrorist attack on the men at Ft. Hood as “workplace violence”.
And when he claimed the terrorists in France were just hoodlums randomly killing people – all of whom were Jews – he sealed his position for me. But he also underscored his hatred for this God-given Republic when he attacked religious conscience as unimportant – because that’s what he wanted the Supreme Court to decide in the legal battle of Hobby Lobby. And, of course, there’s the matter of the Second Amendment. The founding documents are not permission from the government to believe we have rights. Those documents are reminders to elected, hired and appointed government officials that we, the people, know what we believe, and our authority comes from God.
We don’t pay a fee to use the First Amendment, so why should there be any fee attached to the Second Amendment? As for name calling and accusations, I don’t participate, but I do recognize that there are only two influential forces flowing around the world – One force is God, and the other is His adversary, the anti-Christ. Progressive socialists (liberals) follow the adversary, and wherever they appear, Christianity seems to be persecuted. For America that persecution began when the “liberals” removed the Bible and authentic American history books from the public schools.
Oh dear God. You have got to be kidding me. You are
crazy. Would have also been angry if he had just
shaked the hands of the King of Saudi Arabia? Was it
OK for him to bow to the Queen of England. After all, she
isn’t a Baptist.
Obama represents our country – not YOUR country, Our
country, in its entirety. He cannot go to another country
and be uncivil just because he doesn’t agree with that
religion. Or do you also think that he DOES agree with
that religion? Or do you think he should be uncivil?
And by the way, those people that were killed, were not
all Jews.
And just what is this horrible fee that is attached to the
2nd Amendment? Having never owned anything but
a BB gun, I know nothing about that.
And where YOU have really gone way over the line
is calling Obama someone who hates this God-fearing
Republic. First of all, I would challenge that term
in the first place. I really don’t think that we have a
God-fearing Republic. I am a Christian and I don’t
fear God. And certainly those who are not Christians
don’t fear God. And just how is Christianity persecuted
here by liberals or anyone else? They make you
obey the laws? I cannot think of one way that I
have been put to any trouble, much less persecuted
for my beliefs. Nor have you, unless you are hell-bent
on breaking the law.
And GROW UP. You know darn well that if religion
moved back into the schools, that all religions would
insist on being given equal opportunity? Then we
would have the Christian pray one day, and the Muslim
pray another day, and the Native American pray
another day – Hindus, Shintos, Zorastorians, you
name it. It might take a month to get around to
the Christians again. But no one is going to stop
your praying in school. You do it silently.
As for “authentic” history books, don’t bother to tell
me what the problem is there. Are we supposed to
be teaching our children that the world was created
in seven days less than 10,000 years ago?
You scare me. I will stick to my own brand of Christianity,
thank you. And DO NOT get in my face with yours.
Dutch, you asked; I answered. You are not alone in your beliefs, nor am I alone in mine. Your faith in God is yours alone. And I thank you for giving me the opportunity to post what follows. If you are aware of the news, you know that in the past 24 hours, America has been challenged by an enemy that has infiltrated our borders. Its foot soldiers are a real threat, capable of any terror they can imagine.
You say you don’t fear God – I suggest you study that word because it doesn’t mean ordinary fear; the word has religious connotations. I also suggest you study “Office of the Chief of Protocol”, this is the compendium of presidential behavior. You might also research “Obama’s political blunders”
I realize that not all the people murdered that day in France were Jews, but all the people were inside a Jewish deli, and French authorities were satisfied with the finding that Muslim terrorists were the murderers. I suppose you believe the two men killed by police in Texas were just “hoodlums, acting randomly”, also.
As for “my country”. I am of Native American heritage. Some of my ancestors died in defense of their land. Others, learning from their defeat, fought the British during the Revolution. My father gave his life in service to this nation. They paid the highest price for freedom from Delaware and Pennsylvania to the South Pacific, and by adoption into the tribe of Abraham by Jesus of Nazareth, all the way to the first defense of Ancient Israel. I also served in the Air Force, and the oath I took to defend and protect the U.S. Constitution has not expired. I taught my children the responsibilities of citizenship – including the sacrifices freedom occasionally demands.
I’m ordained, my weapon today is the Word of God, but the blood of warriors in my flows through my veins.
As for God in school, I suggest you visit the nearest library and delve into the writings of Founders Dr. Benjamin Rush, Thomas Jefferson, Sam Adams. Search for a book, by Ver Steeg, “The Formative Years”. And while you’re there, read the writings of George Washington, and study what he said about the duties of a president and American citizenship. And you might read what President Abraham Lincoln said about the U.S. Constitution.
This assignment should keep you busy for a month or more, considering that Washington, a meticulous man, believed the accomplishments of the Revolution were were historical. He left some 140,000 documents to posterity.
The Lord of the ages willing, I’ll be here in a month or more, carrying out my assignment – so devote that span of time to reading, and get back to me. I sincerely want to know what you have learned. Remember, ignorance is a curse only if you embrace it as a lifestyle. Reading such as I recommend will free you from that curse so you can develop a life more suitable to the American way of life.
Meanwhile, here’s something for you to think about:
Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.
– John Adams
Don’t preach to me Pastor Whazzyourname” You are
wasting your time.
There’s a way to prevent my “preaching” to you, Dutch. Simply stop responding., and follow the procedure that interrupts the delivery of my messages to you.
Why could you not have written that post without the “but
not by handouts” “not see who they can take advantage
of”
In essence, you are saying that it is all their fault. You are
putting the blame on them, without looking at yourself at all.
If you had had to endure what the blacks have had in this
country, your life would be different also. Without going
through the entire litany of what they have had to deal with,
let’s talk about the modern family. Why are mothers
mostly being mothers by themselves. Because the guys
are sitting in jail. Why are the guys sitting in jail. Because cops go after blacks, because juries love to convict blacks, because many head into jails for protection from street life. That is where their friends are.
If you grew up knowing what is available to blacks in
this country, you might very likely find ways to protect
yourself from the rest of the world too. Gangs, selling
drugs, selling bodies,
There are few people stronger than a black woman. But
she can’t do it all. When some black guy, especially
athletes it seems, make it big time, they are always
thanking their mothers. Dad doesn’t get mentioned that
often, actually. Blacks are not inherently worse than
others. The society they live in has played a huge part
in making their lives what they are, starting of course
with the centuries of slavery, then the decades of
segregation, and the ongoing lack of respect and lack
of opportunity.
Sure they should be able to get over it by now. But
then the South and mouthy conservatives around here
should be able to get over themselves also, they
should learn to make friends, not enemies, they should
learn to know that they can trust both God and science,
they should be able to raise their SAT scores, but they
don’t.
It is a two way street, folks. Are you a follower of
Christ? Then stop placing blame, stop giving yourselves
“outs” Do what you can do, and then do even more.
Victor, I JUST Wanted to tell you thank you for your efforts and I am sure you will do it. if you need help just find me. I just want to add one thing I think we need people that are just normal every day average maybe a little street wise. They understand life better because they have been there and done that. but like I said I am here if you need me. I also have the same dream. Thank you for caring .
We are in tune on this, Elaine. My plan is intended for the very people you describe. I believe in miracles, in Divine inspiration, in God. Thank you for your offer of assistance. You wll hear from me from time to time. Be at peace.
I am so glad you can get started on this. I will be here if you need me God Bless you for caring.
And may you and your loved ones be blessed abundantly.
The following is a portion of one of President George Washington’s prayers. May God’ call be on another such as he.
“Bless the people of this land, be a Father to the fatherless, a Comforter to the comfortless, a Deliverer to the captives, and a Physician to the sick. Let Thy blessing be upon our friends, kindred and families. Be our Guide this day and forever through Jesus Christ in whose blessed form of prayer I conclude my weak petitions — Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be Thy Name…”
The school systems in America today not learning centers any more they are indoctrination center for the liberal progressive who have taken over the education system, run by the NEA with help from the liberals from the Texas State Board of Education, one of the most organization in the country.
Thanks for the response. This is exactly what happened in Russia and Mainland China. I’m only one man, but God inspired a plan, which you may see in its formative stage on this site. I am devoted to carrying it through.
Perhaps you have done your grandson an injustice by
telling him that they learned this at home.
I would suggest to you that things may not be as different
today as you want to believe. At my latest class reunion
I learned things about friends of mine that would never, ever
have occurred to me. One friend was sexually molested
by her father, another was beaten by hers as was her mother.
And these were two of my five closest friends. Today we
have a better idea of what is going on. And no, lots of
kids did not grow up to model citizens. If a student in my
class had talked like Dinnewitz here ( along with several
others ), they would have been dragged out of class by
the ears.
Ahhhhhh, so you think Ovomit is “handsome,” eh douche?? ROFLMFAO You must be QUEER.. HE IS! ROFL
I wouldn’t care if he were queer. But if he were like you,
foul and drunk all the time, I certainly wouldn’t have anything to do with him.
Do you mean “he was queer?” Of course, he is a faggot! Not that there is anything wrong wif at!
My thoughts exactly!!
Maybe you should have your own site. what i say I mean so far everyone understsands what i say. iwill not change a word of it .
That is because 9/10 of the people on this site are just
like you.
I suggest you take an English Class as soon as possible. Your comments are all over the place & you really need to work on your spelling. Maybe you should have your own site.
And I suggest you take a walk. You have a lot of nerve telling me how to spell. first let me say I do not care what you think. you come in and look for crap to argue about. Now you have the filthiest mouth I town. and that is why I am having you removed. You are worse than the worst smelling dead animal. no ne wants you on this site. So get out or be thrown out. have a nice life. you are so stupid. just get out while you still can.
You’re just embarrassed because I called you out on your grammar & spelling. Like Dutch stated, You probably never made it past 4th grade. Go by a dictionary, you ignorant moron!!
Hey Genius… you , misspelled “buy”. Must really suck being a crusty, old miserable person who is so lost; all she can do is criticize other peoples comments.
I would call you a genius, but I would be telling a lie. Everyone is allowed to make a mistake now & then. After all we are human & no one is perfect. But the difference between people like Elaine & people like me is that I don’t keep making the same mistakes over & over again. As I stated before your poems really suck!!! Have a good day, you freaking zombie!!
Ah, and Faye proves she can’t spell (“bye” a dictionary). Probably the least of the things she can’t do
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Victor, I would love to talk with you about education and changes needed but not here, not now. Is there any way to discuss things in another venue that is more private?
Austin, thank you for the invitation but I must decline. I am not a professional educator. I am a pastor, an evangelist. I am also a student of history, focused on the vision held by America’s Founders. Neither am I seeking a personal platform; I have no plan to “make a name for myself”. I have only one desire, and that is to point the way back to Jesus of Nazareth and the Holy Bible, and to reveal what authentic American history records about the men who set us on this path to Liberty.
I do have a Facebook page -//www.facebook.com/pages/For-God-fearing-Patriots/831922393541479. If this is satisfactory, I’ll meet you there.
Victor , cover your back. I am not sure about what is going on. I know i do not like it. no info is worth it. my intuition is saying be very careful
Hello, Elaine – and thank you for being nearby. My Facebook page a pleasant place to meet. I always pray before making any decisions. I’ve offered that page to others, and none has responded. Thank you again!
I tis just that the news said tonight ISIS is getting ready to attack and it will be a bad one.
From what I’ve been reading and hearing on the news reports, I expected something to happen a few weeks ago. It’s important to practice being aware of one’s surroundings. In public places, pay attention to places of shelter. Develop mental exercises, “what if” scenarios. If terrorist attacks become a routine, Americans will have to develop a warrior mentality.
I recently read a news report about a man in a wheel chair. Three thugs thought it would be an easy home invasion. They kicked in his door. He pulled a gun from under his blanket. Result – two dead, one wounded and arrested in the hospital.
Under normal circumstances it could be said the handicapped man was paranoid – and he was, until the door was kicked open. At that time, it could be safely said that he was well prepared and alert.
May you and your loved ones be safe and secure beneath the shelter of God’s wings, in the name of Jesus. Amen.
Thank you Victor, I promised myself I would not be scared. but when you are alone it is different. it is not so easy.
Elaine,The first thought that came to mind is expressed at Isaiah 12:2 – “Behold, God is my salvation; I will trust, and not be afraid: for the Lord JE-HO-VAH is my strength and my song; He also is become my salvation.”
Fear serves the purpose of inspiring a believer to ignite the fires of faith. Let the words you speak be the Scriptures that give you comfort. Let your thoughts be of the Bible verses you’ve memorized. Let your mind be occupied with the blessings you have received. Focus your active attention on the Scriptures starting at Philippeans 4:6 which begins, “Be careful [worried] for nothing… and verse 7… “and the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your heart and mind through Christ Jesus.” … and this leads to verse 8, “… whatsoever things are honest… just… pure … lovely… whatsoever things are of good report: if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.”
Write the verses on an index card, carry it with you everywhere, and when fear comes calling, read the verses aloud – if possible (or silently if you have no choice) – claiming this passage for yourself in the name of Jesus.
Dark days are upon us, but we are not helpless. If you have a hymn book, have a song service. Fill your home with the music of heaven, and invite the angels to join you. If you have friends in a similar state of mind – no matter what the distance – invite them to join you in filling the telephone circuits with songs of praise and thanksgiving.
Remember, Mary Magdalene was afraid, too, but she walked over her fear; and because of her courage and faithfulness to our Lord, the Message of Jesus was preserved. When you retire, ask God to bless you with peaceful sleep.
Hl, victor my computer was being real crazy. I am sorry it took so long to thank you for being there for me. I was so upset with him. I guess I am not used to those kind of people. I did get back at him later.. I am a lady and expect to be treated like one. I earned that title. And if I am afraid that is ok . I don’t have to be like a guy I want them to protect me Not afraid to be a sissy, and when SAT showed up I felt like I was going to be fine. So thank you again. I have some things I think you told me you wanted. If you want to email me your address.
Let’s continue thanking God for everything, Elaine:He is the Provider. As for your concerns, you have directed the attention of some commentators to the major problem they must confront with all the explosive talk – care of civilians. Nor is it too much to think about or to ask. And it is a subject that can’t be ignored. As for the items – hold on to them. I’ll expect to post something on Monday that you’ll be able to read and correct or add to, and possibly use. Nothing confidential. The plan the Lord revealed is expanding into something every God-fearing Patriot can use.
Not sure who you’re talking about, but resist being upset. Just remind the irritating ones that God wants them to be saved. Be sure to include appropriate Bible verses. Invite them to discontinue posting to you. They are not of God; they’re of the anti-Christ; lost souls, cold, blind incapable of giving or receiving love as Jesus commanded it. But God knows who they are, and believe me, those people are dealing with setbacks and problems that spring from their Godless lifestyle. They think the cause is fate or karma and the solution will appear in the newspaper’s horoscopes or in tarot cards. Their only sure release is repentance; but the more they resist, the greater their difficulties will become. The complications of stress are lurking about them, bringing the threats of heart attacks, mental breakdown, despair, depression… and the finality of death means their existence simply ends, and they have nothing to look forward to. ( Hmmm… I guess I’m going to post something about the afterlife tomorrow.) Rest in the Lord, young Lady!
Thank you again, you are something else. I try not to be a whiner. but when you have hundreds of people looking for answers and you have2 or3 trying to stop you from telling it like is, every time you go on and tie up your time until it is 5am. there have been times I have been up for 24 hrs just recently,
I just had another post tonight. this women has the filthiest mouth. and makes fun God . I get so furious
I would love to put her out of her misery. But then think about it and I figure she will get hers, my goodness it is 1 30:am i will talk to you soon. Thank you again.
I prayed that you would rest in the Lord, but I did not. I was awakened at 3:00 am by hail hammering on the window, followed by loud thunder. The storm, and your email, and the internet report that the threat level has been raised from A to B, sent me to the Book of Jeremiah 44:23.
The principle here applies to America – specifically to the woman you described, and the progressive socialists in general. This portion of Scripture is written to them: “… ye have sinned against the Lord, and have not obeyed the voice of the Lord, nor walked in His law, nor in His statutes, nor in His testimonies; therefore this evil is happened unto you, as at this day.”
These people have been steeped in what is “radical humanism”, an approach to history conjured up by revisionists to remove all the faith-based values on which America was founded. There is absolute no love for anything pertaining to God – and that includes the individual believer. Their goal is our demise. And Americans in general have yet to recognize that although they might live in this country, their thinking minds have been twisted and reshaped to fit the plan of God’s adversary.
When I saw the female counterpart to “Whazzizname” on the news, and heard her say, “we need to change long-held cultural and religious thinking in this country”, I was furious, too – but “furious” – if not controlled – is one of the first steps to losing the joy of the Lord.
Following that instant, the thought of the Great Flood came to mind. Genesis 6:5 tells us that “wickedness of man was great upon the earth… the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.” Not only man disappointed God, but the whole earth. And He decided to destroy man and beast, creeping things, and fowls of the air (verse 7). All except Noah, who is described as a just man, who walked with God, and his sons (verses 9-10).
The Scriptures are important, but the principles in them are all-important today; they speak directly to us. The female counterpart assumes and confirms the authority of the anti-Christ, manifesting an expression of “evil continually” which, we learn, angers the Creator, putting Him in the furious mood you describe and I experienced. There is a phrase explaining it: “righteous anger”.
Jesus expressed it at Matthew 21:12, when He confronted the money changers at the Temple. He was so angry that He overturned the tables and called them thieves. Another incident is at Mark 3:1-5. “…they watched Him,,, that they might accuse Him.” Jesus called a man who had a withered hand, and He asked, “Is it lawful to do good on the Sabbath days, or to do evil? To save life, or to kill?” We’re told that “… he looked round about on them with anger, being grieved for the hardness of their hearts.” Without waiting for an answer, Jesus healed the man.
So righteous anger is the reflection of whatever angers God Himself; it is a justly expressed emotion that is stirred whenever we encounter sin. Romans 12:19-21 tells us that if our enemy is hungry or thirsty, we must give him something to eat or drink, and by doing so, we heap burning coals on his head, and we already know that God said, “To Me belongeth vengeance, and recompense” (Deuteronomy 32:35). The spiritual meaning of food and drink is the Word of God, so offer the agitator a few appropriate verses.
Never forget – if you are confronted by an agitator, the Holy Spirit moved him or her in your direction so you could feed their inner spirit with words leading to salvation and Godly living, because God really does want all souls saved (I Timothy 2:1-4).
Do you remember telling me something about Mary Magdaleen?
You betcha! I wrote, “Remember, Mary Magdalene was afraid, too, but she walked over her fear; and because of her courage and faithfulness to our Lord, the Message of Jesus was preserved.”
One of my interests is the ancient teachings about the Holy Spirit. Jewish scholars believed ages ago, that the Holy Spirit was the “us” at Genesis 1:26 , The Feminine Nature of God – the other image of Deity. Solomon referred to Wisdom as female in Proverbs, and in the apocryphal Book of Wisdom, not accept by Protestants, but incorporated in the Catholic and English (as in England) Bibles, Solomon describes Wisdom – or Sophia – in great detail. The patriarchal religious leaders cast out most of the available writings, but I often cite Mary Magdalene’s courageous faithfulness to the women who seek my advice. I did discover a fragment, and I’m now waiting on the delivery of a translation. Early Jewish Christians believed that Wisdom, or Sofia in Greek, called “the Lady”, overshadowed Mary. Hope this isn’t too much information…
More tomorrow. I must take a break from the computer.
No not too much, just trying to figure out what it means to me. I amglad you took a break
May 19. I believe, is the celebration of Pentecost. St. Teresa of Avila called it the feast of the Holy Spirit.
According to what I’ve read, In his Wisdom book, Solomon related all the feminine virtues – love, charity, patience, mercy, etc., to Wisdom, Sophia: a feminine Greek name. And why not translate the name to the Greek? Yeshua was translated to Jesus, Yahwey to Jehovah, the translators knowing there is no letter “J” in the Hebrew alphabet. However, I have not shared my knowledge in order to persuade anyone to believe. I share only to encourage the curious to begin their study, begin their own search for knowledge.
I just wanted you to know the parish I belong to is st. Mary Magdalen for the last 56 years
Most interesting! And you have the Apocrypha at hand! With God involved, there can be no coincidences.
Here’s the rough draft; well, the words anyway. Not sure the layout will print –
Fellow Americans, the evidence should be clear. Forces are working mightily to transform America, from a reflection of the Word of God, to a reflection of something else. While we were asleep, the Bible and prayer was removed from the schools, American history was revised, and the Ten Commandments were banished from public places.
Suddenly, almost over night it seems, our children are forbidden to sing the fourth verse of our National Anthem, because the words are offensive to someone.
Are these words offensive to you?
Oh! thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
Between their loved home and the war’s desolation!
Blest with victory and peace, may the heav’n rescued land
Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation.
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto: “In God is our trust.”
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave!
Do you find them offensive?
Or do you feel a surge of pride. Can you, like many Americans, name a loved one who sacrificed life or limb or sense, to help assure that these words would be preserved – to help assure the star-spangled banner, which inspired the Anthem, would yet “wave o’er the land of the free and the home of the brave”?
Are you satisfied to stand by while your God-given rights are erased from the national memory and the United States Constitution is defaced, and rewritten – twisted like a rag, all traces of the Word of God which gives it meaning wrung out of it?
Have you been told the Bible’s place in the establishment of our Republic? That The Law of Nature can be found at Romans 2:14-16. God,The Author of Life at Genesis 2:7. God grants liberty at Galatians 5:1. The pursuit of happiness at Ecclesiastes 3:13. The three branches of government – legislative, executive and judicial at Isaiah 33:22. The fourth Amendment at Deuteronomy 24:10-11. The Eighth Amendment at Deuteronomy 15:2-3. And The Second Amendment at Luke 11:21 and Luke 22:35-36.
Fellow Americans, the Founders’ minds were developed by an educational system that did not include the distractions of TV, computer games, and mindless recreation. No school or college trains people to think as deeply as these men. They were familiar with the writings of such as Pythagoras, Socrates, Epictetus and Cicero, to mention a few. They well understood the confusion of Islam, and they were familiar with the practices of the Catholic church, Buddhism, and so on. Most important, they were educated believers in God, knowing how to pray for and receive Divine guidance.
And even more important, the Founders expected this system of learning to continue. Dr. Benjamin Rush, the first of the Founders to call for free public schools, wrote:
If moral precepts alone could have reformed mankind, the mission of the Son of God into our world would have been unnecessary. … I believe no man was ever early instructed in the truths of the Bible without having been made wiser or better by the early operation of these impressions upon his mind.
It concentrates a whole system of ethics in a single test of Scripture: “A new commandment I give unto you, that ye love one another, even as I have loved you.” By withholding the knowledge of this doctrine from children, we deprive ourselves of the best means of awakening moral sensibility in their minds.
Friends, the examine the situations now being encountered in the cities of America through the lens of this message, and ask yourself –
What have the dark forces, working so hard to tear our nation’s foundation down, stolen from the people of the United States? What have they stolen from you… from our children… and our grandchildren?
Are you satisfied with the theft? Did you answer, “No”?
James Madison, fourth president of our United States, warned, “It is proper to take alarm at the first experiment on our liberties. We hold this prudent jealousy to be the first duty of citizens and one of the noblest characteristics of the late Revolution. The freemen of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened itself by exercise and entangled the question in precedents.”
One of the boldest ministers to appear in America, Reverend Charles G. Finney, proclaimed: “God cannot sustain this free and blessed country, which we love and pray for, unless the Church will take right ground. Politics are a part of a religion in such a country as this, and Christians [& citizens] must do their duty to the country as a part of their duty to God. It seems sometimes as if the foundations of the nation are becoming rotten, and Christians seem to act as if they think God does not see what they do in politics. But I tell you He does see it, and He will bless or curse this nation, according to the course they take.”
And I dare to shout, “Because of the inaction of believers in God, curses have been attracted to our nation, which was established by men who believed in God. America can be preserved only by other men and women of deep religious faith, who believe in God – and if we believers don’t act to preserve the nation, we shall be relegated to the sidelines to watch the vision of America ground in the dust by the those who wish to replace our God-given rights and freedom.
Friends, we the people are the God-designated masters of the judicial, executive, and representative branches of this republican government, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men and women who pervert the Constitution. And it is not too late to act. But act we must . The Tree of Liberty – AT THIS TIME – must be nourished with the sweat and tears of God-fearing Patriots!
Wow , Victor that was great. I had forgotten a lot of things you mentioned, I will have to read it over again maybe two times to get it to stick. But it is very full of things I did not know. If I did not know and I am here. so how many would you think are totally unaware.?
Let’s thank God together for the inspiration. what was written is not what I had been thinking about for the first issue of a newsletter. You received a stream of consciousness writing. I simply observed what my fingers typed. From the surveys I’ve seen, most Americans are unaware of most of what I’ve written. I’ll work on some improvements tomorrow, but I want to get the copy to the printer on Tuesday. Time is awastin’!
That is how god works. you will get used to it. H edoes the same thing to me
I was thinking also last night. remember to use easy language because we are talking to regular people. And you need to get across to them to get the whole picture. So I suggest do not make it complicated, just a thought. I know you are so good at this .
Thanks for the advice. I have been impressed with what a respected English professor told us – essentially that we should use new words often, to encourage the reader to reach for the dictionary. But you’re correct.
Thank you. you see if these very smart people would take the time to think things out they would get more accomplished. like I said I see people every day and I know what they will do and what they don’t like.
Schools don’t teach people how to think and reason as it was taught. A pastime growing up was reading Shakespeare, the Bible, and story books aloud. If I had a question, I was guided through the dictionary or the encyclopedia to find the answer. Local newspaper owners and publishers do research to discover the general grade level of the community. Seldom do they publish anything beyond 6th grade understanding.
There you have it. That is very telling. it is what we are faced with. I think it is going to be a challenge to get the kids on the right track. But I look at the whole picture. no two kids are alike. each one has his or her ideas about life. And they have had so many crazy things going on this world today that they are being torn between the good and the bad. ufortunatley they are not sure which is good and bad, the school system is the worse it has ever been. I would like to see the whole system changed.. starting with the attitude of the teaching staff up to the school board whose only thoughts are how much money can they get off of the tax revenue. If we ever get our world back I would love to see a lot of changes in the whole system. and that is what should happen. starting with the parents.
They do not have time to reach for a dictionary. If you force them to they wont read it. But you do it the way you want.
That’s why I said you’re correct. Where the dictionary used to be – on the side table at the chair used for reading – there is now a TV remote, and maybe a TV guide. But if you read the comments carefully, you’ll see that most of the patriotic ones are thoughtful and literate. Such the three immediately below. Thanks again – and don’t hesitate to contribute your ideas.
OH, yes I believe that , just remember they are not all like that. And that is why I said what I did. I guess I think differently, i always have and I believe it works for all.
you can’t have one idea and expect everyone to see it the same way, so I try to adjust accordingly. But that is me. if you ever disagree please tell me. this way we will always be the best of friends.
We are never alone. Good manners is the hallmark of all God’s attributes. He never imposes Himself, but He responds immediately to our calls. Notice the intensity of the storms, and measure them against the continuing godless thoughts of the progressive socialists. National sins bring destruction on the nation, but national sins also brings God’s protection to the believing people not taking part in the sin.
A tornado rips through a town. The believers say, “We haven’t lost anything important. Our family is safe.” Innocent unbelievers look at the damage and bemoan the loss of property and their collected material goods. Atheists blame “mother nature”, recognized as a god-like power. Some even say, I hope mother nature is kind, or I hope mother nature brings back Spring.
God is separating the people – nonbelievers on one side of events and believers on the other side. When the unbelievers finally realize the circumstances are unbearable, they will begin crying out, “What’s happening? Why is this going on?” and God will inspire and strengthen believers to answer.
We look at our unbelieving fellows, and we see frightened people. But they are actually babies, lost in the dark. Their expressions of fear and confusion are unconscious demands for the milk of God’s word – they are not ready for the meat.
If I, a believing Christian, were living in another country, observing U.S. current events – from the administration on through the national community, I could only conclude that it is a mission field, ripe for harvest. When the truth is spoken, the Holy Spirit records it on the heart, the meaning revealed in terms that will be understood.
What would you like me to do?
Make suggestions, comments, ask questions – that sort of contribution is always important. Keep in mind that you may want to circulate this broadside among your group of friends and acquaintsances.
got ya. oK/
it may needed to be shuffled a little bit
The Anthem verse is centered, as are the quotes. i may put them in boxes. Haven’t got that far yet, but I’m bringing to bear my newspaper layout experience. There will be the title -“For God-fearing Patriots” and my Facebook cover picture -if possible -and the Facebook page address. Is that what you mean by shuffle?
Yes ,Sir, I have a question. What did you mean about mary magdalen. and God
Hello! I don’t understand the question. My intention was not to imply anything more than what I said about Mary Magdalene. But meditating on her prompted me to search for more knowledge.
My studies revealed that the Feminine aspect of Deity is a direct influence; and women have access to Wisdom through the gift of intuition This gift make a wife a unique treasure for the husband who recognizes her gift.
Wow, thank you Victor. I thought that there was something more going on. With Mary, think it is so weird because this is the second time this has been brought up to me in the last year. something very strange is going on. Maybe I need to wear a sign on my back .Hey guys if you are looking I am a unique treasure I have the gift of intuition. Just kidding. OK I have an answer for you. can do this any way you want. The newspaper layout would be the easiest. That is the columns. That might work but my point is don’t make it look to heavy or they will skip over a lot . maybe if you break it up Do the most important things first. Then continue with the rest . As an example did you ever get stuck on those adds that want to tell you how you can get such a deal if you watch and they say you will find out. but what you find out I that you will have to pay first. even though they keep saying in 2 minutes more I will reveal what you need to know. So I am trying to tell you is do not use that method.
the less words used the more they will read it.
I see this every day. I get a little long winded too. let me know if this helps. still haven’t heard from Fernando. getting more worried .
My newspaper experience includes news column layout, advertising design, etc, as well as reporting. I know exactly what you mean. But the printer I work with also has abundant experience and is accustomed to discussing and improving on my ideas when he sees a need that I missed.
From the little you shared, it might be time for you to read something about St. Teresa of Avila. The books about Mary Magdalene are based on speculation and vain imagination.
Victor, I asked my grandsons future wife if she would look at this for me she agreed. She is the editor of a hotel magazine. She is quite the gal in her profession and going up the ladder of success very fast. and she said what I thought was right. She is a positive thinker also. We did not have to much time to talk about my ideas but they live close to me, so I can ask her anything I don’t understand. She is out of town a lot so. They have her doing this since she started with them..
I’m interested in knowing how the message affects her, and what she has to say.
I can ask her for an opinion, if I an get her she is out of town this week. but I can have my grandson ask her when he calls her. ok?
My plan advances. The copy will be reviewed by the printer today. If you receive suggestions I will be sure to consider them for the next newsletter.
hello, I just wanted to tell you I have an article I found in our city newspaper. I think you will understand it and how to use it maybe in your next newsletter. it just hit me when I read it . and I thought you might like it. I am going to type it a
a little diferent than it reads. it will still mean the same. It was meant to help people so I figured that would be us. Ok. I am going to eat dinner first. I have not eaten all day . then I will come back and type it and try to send it tonight.
Take your time. The messages for the next next two newsletters grew fully developed out of two separate comments posted to me by progressive socialists.
Remember my posting that all the challenges now confronting Americans are part of an an open Book exam? Well, the challenges came to me by way of the blathering of the enemy’s brainless slaves. I will post abbreviated versions on this and other Disqus sites for all to read.
Good job Victor, you knew it was coming. I knew you would do very well. I love this article I am sending you.
I pray you are well and happy! I most certainly celebrate the joy of the Lord – He confirmed the newsletter message wonderfully. The printer – a brother in the Lord – found nothing wrong with it. He made the Facebook photo a full color banner, placed the “Tree of Liberty” as a headline, and expressed great enthusiasm for the text.
Meanwhile, I read almost every post on these and other cites, and I made a discover that settles something: Atheists are not the enemy most Christians have been led to believe. Confused they may be, but they have the same basic concern we do. They don’t want to lose their freedoms any more than we do. They want peace, but not as much peace as we receive from belief in God. They simply want to be left alone. Which is understandable – from their point of view. Proponents of same sex marriage want to be left alone, too, They have no interest in the health risks attached to the lifestyle, nor any concern about the doors they’re opening to unspeakable behavior.
Believers in God don’t express uniform beliefs, either. They are all over the board with solutions to the problems facing this nation – everything from simply waiting for the rapture, to armed rebellion. This wide span must be filled in with the urgency of the nation’s situation. Neither extreme solves the immediate problems; and this span, separating the differences, makes the absence of universally respected Christian leadership noteworthy.
The posts persuade me even more that the progressive socialists must be answered with planned responses – and that means prayer first, Bible reading second. And we must be aware enough to be able to recognize the “left-leaning” Christians. We must also motivate ourselves to the level of sacrificial work, recognizing that we are called to be messengers of the Lord – not messengers of any denomination. Guidance comes with the gift of salvation; God inspires the steps following that life changing experience. And we must all remember this.
Hello, how are you. I missed you, I figured you were busy so I did not try to get my article typed up. I think you will love it. mainly because it talks about how the mind works. I won’t tell you any more. you have to read it. I am going to say a couple of things. First when it comes to gay people, they say they want to be left alone I hardly think that. nobody bothered them to begin with
They were the ones demanding that they be able to get health care. but if on of them did not work they had no way of paying for it. so the next step was they needed to be married so they could be put on their spouses insurance. then came the reality . the law said no, I won’t go into that because you know what transpired after that. The same way with the atheist they wanted everyone too think they were the bad guys, when that got them nowhere they decided to go a different route.
Personally I do not care what they say or do. as long as they leave my God and Jesus alone, and Mary, the things they were doing and saying about her just made me sick. And not try to push their life style on us. I am still God made a rule and we have to listen to him and not tell me that he has changed his mind and we can change his rule. ok I am getting off of my podium. when do I get to see the finished product. I can’t wait . I know you worked very hard on it. and I will love it. by the way do you remember when we talked about schools and what needs to be done.
I was reading yesterday and I came across something about kids not knowing anything about elections. and I thought why are they not teaching kids this in school. I thought they should learn from an early age how to vote and all about how to chose a candidate. I have some great ideas for this and it would not cost any money. one of the ladies was complaining to me about the people that don’t vote or they do vote but aren’t sure how. and she was ranting on and on. until I told her it was note up to the voter to figure out who did what for the voting. she said it was up to the voters to check things out like what they voted for or against . and I thought we can’t get them to the polls now does she really want to confuse them. They won’t vote I know old people. anyway what do you think of that idea?
Hello! I’m well, thank you! I was very busy. And so, it seems, were you. Sounds like it’s time for you to associate with a political organization. Your friend is correct. The young people I’ve talked to are so mentally deadened that they don’t research the facts political party or candidates. Your early age idea is needed, and you must talk about it to parents who attend your church.
As for the Seniors – talk to them about the security of their grand children, and the threats to their liberty and freedom. Talk to them about the America that they grew up in.
I have an idea for sending the newsletter to you. I’m eager to see if it works.
You mustn’t be concerned with the posts about God, Jesus and Mary. People who post mean things heap burning coals on their own heads. Think about it. You and I, and every believer, calls out to God in intercession for another, or in petition for ourselves, and God hears and answers. Those who deny His existence, or violate His laws, have no Savior to call on – and the time is coming when all humans will have good reason to call on Him. After the unusual storms, come unusual sicknesses and diseases.
Through it all, we must at all times be sure our robes of righteousness are neat and clean.
I can hardly wait to see the article.
Hello! In obedience to my guidance – and thanks to a method you supplied – I’ve sown the seed of the plan in 3 cities so far – Wilmington DE, Camarillo CA, and Denver, CO. You may feel led to suggest cities, also. Please do.
Hello, Victor, I am so proud of you.. I knew you could do it. where do we go to see it. I have been so busy I haven’t had time to do anything. i was hoping you would get in touch soon and when I heard the bell I knew it was you. I had your article i want you to read and think about how you can use it. I am going to start typing it out in about 5 minutes. look forward to see if yu understand how i feel about it..
The Mind of Elephants.
When elephants are captured in the wild it is done as quickly as possible. they use tranquilizer guns.
Then one end of a very large heavy chain is attached to a very huge tree that the Elephant can not pull down. Then the other end is attached to a cuff that is put around one hind leg. The Elephant violently pulls and kicks for about a week trying to escape. When he thinks he can not escape he then gives up and resigned to the fact that he can not break free. Then he is taken to the circus and tethered to a small stake that is put into the ground.. at this point if he tried he could just walk away and pull the stake out of the ground with no effort at all. but he does not try. He remains enslaved not by reality but by his mind, He has succumbed to the psychological conditioning of others and thus remains enslaved throughout his life by a burden that he could shed anytime by simply taking action by moving forward. but because his mind remembers he can not do that, So he thinks he can not
not do that. Do not be the Elephant that is able to break free from it’s captivity but remains imprisoned by it’s own mind. just walk away to your freedom you have the power.
Victor , pleae lt me know what you think. Just remember I think about people that have no clue about life.
If the recipients of the plan are attuned to God, you may see the message very quickly. I opened a discrete path for communication, heeding my family’s concerns, and I expect responses within a week. But no matter, I will continue sowing seeds 3 cities at a time.
victor,I am a little confused. did you get my post you lost me somewhere. now I am beginning to worry about you
I did get your post and I’m looking forward to reading the article you mentioned. I’m doing well, by the way – but I have noticed that transmission of emails sent to me are delayed delayed several hours.
Hi, when did that start?
Just try and keep track of which ones are taking that long.
You don’t want to lose you place here.
About two weeks ago. Doesn’t matter. The battle for the ballot box must continue.
Ok, just thought I would ask, are you oK?
Everyone and everything is fine. I’m working on the next message, refreshing my spirit with stories about the heroes of faith. I found an interesting article about St. Mary Magdalene, and I just received the translation of the early text about her. Life goes on – it’s a great adventure!
I have some stories about children. it is very sad, the book ia small and it is called sometimes God has the face of a child , if you are interested
I can’t remember to well but the last time we spoke I think I told you that was my parish. I looked her up on line. Wow she had a very interesting life. Did you read my post. for some reason I decided that was a very interesting way to let people know they have the power to change things.
This is the only post I received – so far. Remember the delays must be taken into account. The twists and turns of my life are interesting – I went to sleep thinking about Mary Magdalene’s courage, and woke up with a directive to prepare a message for Christian women.
How did that go?
I’ve been pouring peace on fires of burning rage. I should have the message completed sometime tomorrow.
Missing from these sites are the responses of God-fearing women Patriots. Their voices, above all others, are needed to calm the storm of violent anger too often published. Women, especially mothers and grandmothers, must speak reminders to the men that ill-timed violence of any kind threatens the helpless, the aged, and the children…. and the future course of our nation.
On numerous sites, the “enemy” has been identified as: “conservative Nazis”, “progressive socialists”, “religious fundamentalists”, domestic muslim terrorists”, “radical agitators”, “progressive republicans” …. and others can no doubt add to the list.
And if the enemy, in all its forms, could be lined up, how are these to be identified? What marks of distinction do they bear?
One enemy not included, but mentioned, is the Americans who, with misplaced patriotism, claim the answer to our nation’s problems can be solved with one extreme action – an action that few are prepared to follow, and few can hope to achieve – an action that guarantees an end to our God-given Republic. An action that will cement in place a tyranny that might never be removed.
Who, but God-fearing patriot women, can dampen such raging fires? Who but mothers with babes in arms can count the cost of such mindless urging?
Women have God-given gifts that men must recognize, because God does indeed speak to them. The Bible tells us, Proverbs chapter 31, that a virtuous wife is hard to find – she is more precious than rubies – her husband can safely trust in her. For too long, the teaching that woman are the “weaker vessels”, but the word is misleading. The complex Greek language reveals that women are strong in another direction from that taken by men. Women are mighty in power and strength, in the ability to access God through insight and intuition. Women are capable of hearing from God in silence and reflection, where men most often hear from Him in the midst of activity.
The man who is accompanied by a virtuous God-fearing woman on his path through life is blessed with God’s gift of support. Just by what she feels and senses, by her reliance on spiritual knowledge and power that is hers alone, she can confirm his service to God.
Such women are needed at this time.
Thank you I can’t wait.
I am also worried about ABBAS Fernando, the last time I heardrom him he said he was sick for3days. I told him to please get to a doctor. he said he could not get to the computer. he neve rgoes this long without talking to me. I am sorry I don’t mean to bother you with this but I am really getting worried.
Sorry I missed this.
Jesus gave us the authority to ask anything of the Father in His name. Calm yourself, and recognize that God is the Healer. Your prayer is not at all complicated. Just be sincere when you say or think it as often as you feel necessary.
“Father, thank you for increasing Your healing power in ABBAS Fernando. Thank you that your power is working toward his perfect health.” Believe, and let God do the work.
You see what I am trying to tell you about your writing? You gave me some advice and I cried because it was a simple answer but it was exactly what I needed to do. I prayed but not the right recipient. Thank you. I think you are the greatest thing since sliced bread. Love you.
Elaine, it’s all God! I always pray before answering, and if what I hear is what is needed, I ask only that the recipient and I thank God together for His answer, His blessing. Thank you for the opportunity to serve our Lord!
OH, my goodness. you are the one I should thank. I appreciate every word you tell me. I know how busy you are. I have not heard a word yet . I really am scared for him. I wish i knew what is going on!! I am glad you are here because I would not be able to get thru this alone. I have been saying your prayer all day. I know it will work..SLY
I did nothing you did it all. I just followed instructions. Don’t worry I will try and not drive you crazy, I am a big girl now and should be able to handle things but every day it seems like things get worse.
Someone, when confronted with either the telephone or the telegraph or the radio, said “What hath God wrought!” We have no reason not to believe that the internet, regardless of it others uses, was inspired by God to spread His message of salvation, peace, love, and joy. I have not doubted that He called me to this mission field also to be of service to you and to my new acquaintance, marshmill.
wow that is what I thought. I guess that is why I am here also. SAT used to tell me I am the daughter of god . I used to think he was crazy. He told me that all the time and still does. I think you are so right.
You’ve touched on subjects that stir my righteous anger. Some televangelists teach that conditions in our lives are influenced by the past, but they go into more detail, of course. The fact is, all those who submit to God, achieve the second birth and accept Jesus as Lord of their lives (John 3:3-6), are adopted by God as His children (Ephesians 1:3-6). Everything about that spiritually newborn becomes new – everything! (II Corinthians 5:17) His or her past goes only so far as God. The connection to the physical past is broken. Of course, criminals still need to pay the penalties justice demands, and that includes those who are guilty of the secret sins, but their souls are washed clean of their sins. Justice, however, will be served either in this world or the next. The warnings are all around us, but one has to learn how to see spiritual truth.
Wow did I bring that on? I am not sure weather to laugh or cry? But I trust whatever you say.
As soon as I finished the comment, my computer want bonkers. Don’t trust me, trust the Scriptures. And I was going to add the following to my message:
My basic education in mysticism and metaphysics was provided by St. Teresa and St. John of the Cross. A very wise religious scholar once told me that ifI wanted to learn to pray, believing Catholics were the best teachers. St. Teresa led me to the Discalced Carmelite Monastery where I lived at that time. My learning continued there. Meeting you has brought back many pleasant memories.
My blog is rapidly becoming a reality. And speaking of that, go to Ephesians chapters 1 and 2. Where you see the words, you and us, add your name. You will soon discover that the Scriptures are a very personal love letter from God sent directly to you.
For example, read verses 2-4 like this, and consider it my prayer for you –
“Grace be to you [Elaine}, and peace from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ. … who hath blessed [me, Victor and you, Elaine] with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ: According as He hath chosen [you, Elaine, and all submitted believers] in Him….”
Such an exercise reveals just how much God wants to love and be loved by His creation.
OK, I read it, wow.. for a second I thought he married us. I said no way. he did not propose to me. so I laughed and continued on. I guess you were right. And SAT also. He has to stop putting all these men in my life. He has some heavy duty explaining to do. I did understand what you were telling me.
Your post awakened my memory of the man who contributed, with the following statement, to my awakening awakening to God. He’s a man who ought to be in every believer’s life, particularly now.
“I regard myself as the most wretched of all men, stinking and covered with sores, and as one who has committed all sorts of crimes against his King. Overcome by remorse, I confess all my wickedness to Him, ask His pardon and abandon myself entirely to Him to do with as He will. But this King, filled with goodness and mercy, far from chastising me, lovingly embraces me, makes me eat at His table, serves me with His own hands, gives me the keys of His treasures and treats me as His favorite. He talks with me and is delighted with me in a thousand and one ways; He forgives me and relieves me of my principle bad habits without talking about them; I beg Him to make me according to His heart and always the more weak and despicable I see myself to be, the more beloved I am of God.”
― Brother Lawrence, The Practice of the Presence of God
hi, I am going bonkers today ,so much going on. I have something I think you will like. but I have to do it later . so much typing.
WTF? Are you running for president in 2016 ? You write like a god damn politician!! You might want to print & save this speech. You never know. It might come in handy when it comes time to debate Hillary Clinton. LMAO!!!
Good question, Faye. Thanks for asking. And thanks for your left-handed compliment; but no, I’m not seeking any political office. A few months ago, I was called by God to treat the ‘net as my mission field. I discovered the Disqus sites and quickly learned that people were letting the progressive socialist agitators push their buttons. As you have no doubt seen, these angry people sometimes speak of “lock and load” and other such untimely things. I was impressed to speak to them and assure them that – and you’ve seen my statement – The tree of Liberty -AT THIS TIME – must be nourished with the sweat of God-fearing Patriots.
I can understand their frustration. A thief has invaded their home(land) and law enforcement (the Congressional branch of government) thinks the thief has imprisoned them. And there seems to be no one else to arrest the thief. My statement, an adaption of the more famous quote, was inspired as a call to channel energy in another direction – to the battlefield for the ballot box. The weapon of this battle is prayer.
I have been prepared for this battlefield by noteworthy pastors who will not be familiar to you – among them Theologian and apologist William Paley, Reverend Jonathan Mayhew, Pastor Samuel Davies, and Reverend Charles Finney.
As for the speech – it is being circulated far and wide, and it will be followed by others – on based on valuable suggestions from an atheist who is now concerned about the administration’s unwillingness to recognize muslim terrorists. He loves his country, and wants to leave it intact for his grandchildren. When we have to mention God, I substitute the title, Great Mystery. He and I get along quite well.
I am talking about JD/Dent and Faye Hayes. if you haven’t taken time tov read their post , please do so . o6u will love the way she talks about God. Then you tell me what to do. oK?
Wow! I found the Faye Hayes posts, and I must admit, you have quite a sense of humor. Frankly, when comments to me are filled with insults and name calling, I post this message: “If you can’t be civil, simply stop responding, and follow the procedure that interrupts the delivery of my to you.”
But let’s begin with Hebrews 11:6 – “…he that cometh to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of them that diligently seek Him…” The verse is telling us that everyone must decide God exists or doesn’t exist. If He exists, happiness and eternal life is the reward. If He doesn’t exist, nothing is lost. On the other hand, the Bible is an invitation to take the step of faith that God does exist, and that He is a personal God, who rewards anyone who SEEKS Him. Not FINDS Him. The reward is His personal appearance. An appearance that can’t be denied; that will satisfy the seeker that God exist.
An atheist cannot begin such a journey of discovery. They are like the blind, being led by other blind, told to take the next step, even though the sighted person nearby can see the cliff. The atheist will follow the atheist leader because of the confident way the blind leader moves through the darkness.
The sighted person can do little more than try to talk sense to the blind ones, but the blind may not choose to listen. Even atheists who have seen the Light, discovered the Divine Reality, and recorded their successful spiritual journey have a difficult time making their voices heard.
As for atheists, they are generally without hope. Richard Dawkins, biologist, wrote a book on evolution titled “The Blind Watchmaker: Why the Evidence of Evolution Reveals a Universe Without Design”. Dawkins, in my estimation, is the anti-Christ’s answer to the Apostle Paul. I’ve read comments with no names attached that this book was, next to “Origin of Species” is the most significant book on evolution. Dawkins wrote that “Darwin made it possible to be an intellectually fulfilled atheist.”
Without getting too involved, I’ll summarize – neither Charles Darwin, nor Richard Dawkins, or any other scientist – atheist or otherwise – could explain “Sex”, identified as evolution’s single most and important riddle” George Williams, a population biologist said, sex shouldn’t have evolved.” In fact, asexual reproduction would seem a more likely choice for nature to make. Lots of questions were generated, but no answers satisfied.
Then Michael Behe, a biochemist, wrote a book, “Darwin’s Black Box” (1966), by molecular research, penetrated the deep secrets of the complexity of life, revealing that some complex biological and molecular systems had to begin designed, fully formed, and in place.
Behe’s research of the irreducible structures of the single cell and of the eye, highlights Genesis 1:2, Psalm 33, and John1:1-3. Darwin was left in the dark because he did not have the technology to study microscopic biochemical details. Behe wasn’t trying to prove God exists, however. He simply suggests that an intelligent designer designed a complete cell, DNA codes intact, and placed the cell, containing all its systems for reproduction in place, at the start of the evolutionary journey. But Romans 1:19-20 tells us “The truth about God is known to men… the invisible things are clearly seen”
As for the rest of the posts, Listen to your inner voice. You will know how to respond. Even though it’s like talking to a wall, you have opportunities to organize your carefully constructed comments.
It’s quite obvious you know nothing about Atheism & you need to stop writing such religious propagandist bullshit!! You are no match to Richard Dawkins. If there were ever a debate between you & Richard, he would wipe the floor with you. Dawkins is brilliant & you are a complete moron. How many books have you published? ZERO!!! Dawkins went to Oxford University. Where did you go to college or did you get that far ? Need I say more ? IDIOT!!!
Faye, regardless of what you think about Victor, it is clear that you know little to nothing about atheism. And I don’t care where Dawkins went to university. I judge a man by what he says, not by where he went to school. I will agree that Dawkins is brilliant, but I at least have a master’s degree and am at least semi-literate. By the way, you could certainly afford to wash your mouth out with soap. That is what my grandmother would have done to me if I had said some of the foul things you have said.
Faye Hayes, your argument is not with me. You must address your rant to Michael Behe. He’s the one who challenged Dawkins. Notice my how I introduced my comment: “Without getting too involved….” and I repeat the portion that apparently startled you. Or did your research expose you to a blinding light that caused you the pain that comes with recognizing a theory has been emphatically disproved?
I will agree with you on one point. I know nothing about atheism. I went to a liberal college, I arranged to be mentored by four sensible professors through four years of an Earth Science major and Journalism minor when two other professors told me that any mention of God would cause me to lose one grade point. I earned a doctorate in Divine Metaphysics, which essentially is a Bible scholar whose specialty is the application of spiritual laws to the problems of daily life. I was raised by believers in God., and I learned from their examples that God is true to His Word. My letters of recommendation from my mentors were more valuable than a degree. I secured a job with a local newspaper, and left the field when I realized the liberal influence was too great to overcome. And from that time I have served only God Almighty. But I digress – to continue, I stand by the result of my research:
Without getting too involved, I’ll summarize – neither Charles Darwin, nor Richard Dawkins, or any other scientist – atheist or otherwise – could explain “Sex”, identified as evolution’s single most and important riddle” George Williams, a population biologist said, sex shouldn’t have evolved.” In fact, asexual reproduction would seem a more likely choice for nature to make. Lots of questions were generated, but no answers satisfied.
Then Michael Behe, a biochemist, wrote a book, “Darwin’s Black Box” (1966), by molecular research, penetrated the deep secrets of the complexity of life, revealing that some complex biological and molecular systems had to begin designed, fully formed, and in place.
Behe’s research of the irreducible structures of the single cell and of the eye, highlights Genesis 1:2, Psalm 33, and John1:1-3. Darwin was left in the dark because he did not have the technology to study microscopic biochemical details. Behe wasn’t trying to prove God exists, however. He simply suggests that an intelligent designer designed a complete cell, DNA codes intact, and placed the cell, containing all its systems for reproduction in place, at the start of the evolutionary journey. But Romans 1:19-20 tells us “The truth about God is known to men… the invisible things are clearly seen”
Perfect Faye. Ever hear the term “educated idiot”. Name me a college Prof Author that has written a book in which the purpose was not to further their agenda. You idiots don’t have an ounce of common sense. If it doesn’t come from your socialist college it’s not true. Educated Idiots.
It’s pretty obvious by the comments you write that You are definitely lacking education. Your pathetic attempts at trying to achieve high mentality & morality have failed miserably & that makes you a foolish idiot!!
You describe yourself perfectly Faye. Good for you. Do you also realize I own you? Oh yes. Respond to me again now and see how stupid you can be. You keep us all laughing. You’re such a joke.
One of the problems we hear a lot about today is bullying.
Who is going to stop the bullying if not the teacher.
True story, Dutch. My 12 year old daughter was fondled in the hallway at school. She said the vice principal told her the boys would stop if she ignored them. I showed her how to trap a hand, bend forward, put pressure on the wrist. I showed her how to control a person by grabbing a little finger, and I also taught her some low kicks.
I instructed her to say, “Put your had on me again and I’ll break your wrist.” The following day, I visited the vice principal, agreed that bullying was challenging, and understood that his was not an easy job. Then I looked him directly in the eye, and, handing him a written statement, said, “I am, among other things, a martial arts instructor. I’ve taught my daughter how to break fingers and wrists and where to kick anyone who puts his hands on her. If it comes to that, be aware that she has my permission to defend herself. And you might want to pass this information on to the boy’s parents.”
Well, the boy did touch her once more. She trapped his hand, dropped him to his knees, repeated what I told her. There was no more trouble. and no word from the vice-principal.
Of course, times are changing. If I had school aged children today, I would home school them.
Why not give it to the principal to handle . so the teacher can get back to doing her job. Victor if you are looking for a reason to make the teacher the escape goat you are running along side the train not on it and as it picks up speed you will fall back like the school system already has. The whole system is bad. they feed the kids drugs to make them quiet and then thy push them thru because they don’t want them to fall behind what kind of nonsense is that. they tried the drug thing on a friend of mines son and this man said no to the DR. he told him absolutely not . you tell me the problem and i will take care of it without drugs. And he did this child is doing great in school. Thanks to his father who was not afraid to say no.
It is far from my mind to put any pressure on the teacher. While in college, I was asked to change my major from Earth Science to Elementary Education, because the school system need male teachers. Before making a decision, I sat in on fifth grade classes, and saw two or three problem areas that were being ignored. I was in Iowa at the time, and in that school system, the vice-principle was – what I came to call “the hit man” for the system. The authority to discipline was in his province. The student teacher in whose class I was sitting changed her major because she couldn’t control the students. The experience was too stressful for her. I’ve lost track of the creative ways educators deal with problems now, but at that time, men with military experience were offered accelerated training if they agreed to fill teaching positions. My first concern today is for the children of believing parents, and secondly for those parents who want something better for their children, but have no idea what to believe. Comments directed to me by admitted atheists have also been encouraging.
First, are you a teacher? I’m getting that impression. IT’s
not my fault!
Oops, I certainly hope you are not a teacher. You would
not have written “escape” goat if you are a good one, and
you would not have written “a friend of mines son” Two
problems with that one. It should be mine’s son if you must
use such stilted language. Better to say “my friend’s son”.
I could also ask what the father did to change the behavior
of his son, but I think I don’t really want to know.
hello, I have no idea what you are trying to prove.. no I am not a teacher. And what was your big worry about my friends son. He did not want his son on drugs. and I do not blame him .Let me tell you
what he did he spent a lot more time with him. helping him with his homework and teaching him how to behave. both of his son’s could read the newspaper at3 years old both boys are doing well. they advanced them to the next grade I hope I answered your questions!! by the way whatdid youthink the father would to his son?
Ha! There’s a group on here that get their ego boosts from insulting others. owens,dutch (what an asshole),foul mouth faye, homomortie , nastyass, croco shit and headuphisass…Anyone that barters with these , leftist, commie loving morons, you’ll be at it all night long. LOL
Thanks mike, I am very tired tonight. and it seems like l have had idiots all day today. I had been up for 24 hour straight being upset about a lot of things. thank you for being my knight in shiny Armour. it is so nice to have someone care. today it was JDDent I was surprised even SAT got in on it but when he new he could not put up anymore he got out. mIke thanks again I heard the news tonight ISIS is getting ready to attack very soon. I hope we are ready.
Dennewitz: “There’s a group on here that get their ego boosts from insulting others.”
Speak for yourself. (foul mouth, homomortie, nastyass,
croco shit, etc)
And I do so love it when you call me an asshole, and then
talk about faye’s foul mouth. Just what is it that makes
you tick? Does it ever occur to you what you are actually
saying, and the impression you are leaving?
Trust me, it ain’t good. And I would bet anything that you
are as drunk as a skunk.
Spew on Obama leg humper.
Obama’s father, er, he didn’t have one that stayed…sorry!
Escape goat? Nobody is that stupid. You must be the exception to the rule. YOU are pathetic!!
Why don’t you and dykeboy try to spawn more welfare receiving, law breaking, rioting, occupying democrat thugs.
This is not a situation of making the teacher the scape goat.
This is in part of relying on simplistic answers such as the one you
gave above and thinking that you can wipe your hands and be done
with it.
what are you talking about? the teacher was not the question during that conversation. the fact was teachers are busy teaching and that is what they should do. now the real question was what to do with kids that are disrupting a class. at first I said they nee to hire someone qualified to handle a child that has a problem not feed them drugs. then if they can not afford it the principal should try and take care of it
that is all I said and it is the truth. if she can not due her job what is she their for. The teachers have to tend to a lot of children in class. they don’t have time to treat one child. and if the principal is smart she will talk to the child not punish him. you never know what his problem is
unless you ask. See there you go again. nobody is saying the teacher is a scape goat. what do you mean wipe my hands and be done with it. When I said you should really make sure all your ducks in a row I meant it. I am not even going to try and talk t you about it. you might mean well but you are coming across all wrong. forget it I am thru.
” i disagree with the room and bars. if we have to do that then both
teacher and parents have not done their job. It is not up to the teacher
to train your child.”
OK, with those first two sentences, you and I agree. And a room with
bars will make matters worse, not better.
I disagree with the third sentence by a half. When I was growing up,
I was in a small school. There was never more than 50 people in
my class, and usually less. We lived in a church going community,
and unless it was for a family business, I knew of no women who had
a job outside of the home. Let me change that to “married” women.
with kids. Even then, I’m sure that our parents expected our
teachers to be trainers. They were not expected to take over the
parents’ job, but to continue it through day which constituted half
of the waking hours of most kids.
I can think of only one incident that would sort of show what I mean.
A boy who was about 3 years younger than me got paddled for
acting out in school. And apparently this was a routine happening.
The father came to the school and asked the teacher how he had
to nerve to paddle his kid. The teacher said, in essence, “because
he needed it.” And the father said, again “in essence,” alright
then.
I lived in a small farming community made up entirely of white
Christian Northern European immigrants. That is not today’s
world. Answers are far more difficult. They are more costly to
take care of and much more costly if we don’t take care of them.
I am sorry to disagree with you but it is not the teachers part to hit your child. and the better way to handle it would have been to tell the parent what the child did. so he would be able to tell the child not to do it again and explain why. not to say all right then. I would have asked exactly what he did. and given him a reason for his punishment that you were going to make sure he got. and kind of remind him not to do it again maybe every day for a week .
Hey, I was talking about an incident that happened 60 years ago.
Why don’t we discuss something that is relevant today.
That particular child was a brother of a classmate of mine, and he
went on to become a school teacher and a basketball coach. He
turned out just fine.
And did I not suggest way to handle it today. If you want to say something to me please put it in the right time frame, not that it makes a difference because you are speaking
one child out of milllions. but I still think it is better not just for the teachers but for everyone. And maybe parents will understand it is not their job to make sure your child is raised properly . they are their to help educate them so they can have a chance to have a normal life and a good job so they can support themselves and a family. The rest is up to you. why if it is so important to you are you just now worried about it? just a question do not get angry with me. When you say handled with less fuss muss or disagreement. first of a where was the mom.? why was she not taking care of the problem instead of dad. mY reason for asking is the way you described it dad did not find out all the particulars. Moms’ usually ask a lot of questions. I know you are going to tell me you don’t know . You were just trying to prove a point. that is ok. so am i.
Several problems with your response. You have made
many claims with no verification except that you believe it
to be true. Somewhere you had a figure of 70% for those
who need remedial reading. I failed to find that – or any
other – figure. All I found was that those who teach
remedial reading generally have inadequate lesson plans
to get the job done. You also suggested that in
conservative areas of the country, kids tended to be
smarter. Now that is a laugh. SAT scores would suggest
otherwise, as would college attendance.
What is a serious problem and will forever cause
problems within the school system is the family life
making progress in other areas most difficult. Those who
have parents with drug and alcohol; those who live in
abusive situations; those who were born with mental
disabilities, just aren’t going to do well in school. We
perhaps might want to see what we could do about
those things – you know, if it doesn’t put you out too
much.
Ahhhh, judge Dutch!! You were on here about a week ago, and you slung bullshit then too.. TROLL ALERT ! TROLL ALERT !!!
“kids in conservative areas or charter or Christian schools get a much better education.”
I can’t speak to Charter schools because I think you have
misrepresented them. My sister-in-law taught in a charter
school for years and they did very well. But it was
publicly supported. And as for Christian schools, I have
never seen a comparison grade wise between public
and this kind of private school. But what I do know is
how well (or not) the kids are doing in conservative areas.
The SAT scores are nothing to brag about. I do know
that.
Home schooled kids have the academic rating than Parochial or private Christian schools.
Why should kids who disrupt class be allowed to stay in class? Put them in a room with bars & don’t bother other students.
What makes you think that they are allowed to stay in class?
If you answer is to put them in a room with bars, you are going to
create one hell of a society once they walk out of that room.
There is something very deep and essential that you are missing.
We live in a big country with a multitude of cultural differences.
If there were no public schools for these kids to mingle in, we would
never merge into a reasonably cohesive country. You may be
able to get by with giving your own kids a kick in the pants and
sending them to bed ( & just as likely, NOT able to get by with it) but
dealing with people from different cultures is going to take
decent people with patience and understanding and a wish to make
things better – as opposed to putting others in their “Place”
Also this stuff costs money, along with a lot of other things. Guess
where that money is going to have to come from – and should
come from.
If you want to live in a beautiful mansion, it is going to require a
lifetime of expensive upkeep. If you don’t want to spend any
of your money, then find the nearest slum and park yourself.
Hey dootch, yo momma have any kids that lived???
As many as could. A lot more than are going now you people are making me wonder why you are not caring about the world and what is going on. If you think you will be safe from the ISIS think again . We are not going to worry weather you are ok or not ,I wonder if you can respect our decision. If not so be it. Maybe Fayes mouth can keep you alive for 5 minutes.
Schools does not make one smart. Everything I have learned in college I could have learned outside of college. College did not teach me how to make soap or how to design a nuclear reactor from scratch. School did not teach me how to grow botullism so I can use it to create infected rice to kill rats with. I learned this outside of school/ All school does is to teach people out to be mindless drones who will suck on the democratic teets of this country. If school were doing their job businesses would not be infested with labor unions, people would not be having babies they cannot afford and living off welfare.
Wow !!! I couldn’t have said it any better !! The crap they are teaching my daughter is unusable at best. Dummy us down so they can take our rights away and sell them back to us. This government must be stopped. We the People!!
Hey Dave, the guy is plainly stating he is learning how to build a warhead and grow toxic biologic agents.
You are agreeing with a probable terrorist in training.
U must be a liberal
A liberal?
Are you serious?
The guy is bragging about learning how to build a reactor and growing botulism for poison.
Next he’ll be making plastique or nitro and gasoline bombs with digital timers triggers.
How does stating the obvious make someone a liberal?
The reason I said your must a liberal , is because you only got what you wanted out of this comment. Then you twisted it into what you wanted it to be. Did you even read my whole comment? I don’t agree with everything this guy says or thinks, but he is right about what’s happening in our children’s schools, and that’s what my comment represents. You do vote Democrat, don’t you? Be honest
Thanks for your clarificatipn.
And no, not a lib or dem.
I’m a libertarian conservative. As stated on my profile.
Don’t be so quick to judge.
I wasn’t even judging him other than his admission of capabilities. We trained pilots to blow up the towers, I would hope we learned a lesson.
Oh absolutely.
Education has taken a completely different route tha when I was in school.
I didn’t have a problem with that part of his or your posts.
More over though, I’m getting concerned however with the increasing number radicals attacking people.
I would like to see a reversal back to quality education like a lot of people but in comparison people being beheaded and attacked in airports takes a front seat for me on a list of concerns.
OK, Born free you are ok, i can understand what you thought cause I thought the same thing , until I realized this guy has got to be new on here. because he did not know our resident bad boy. I was ready to jump in and say something but I thought I would see if anyone else would come up with the same explanation. So I just stood and watched. Just chill out my friend you did ok.
Ok, how is the route different?
That “absolutely” was on education not being a Democrat btw
Let me ask you again. Just what is your daughter being
taught in school? What should she be taught in school
which isn’t happening now? And why do you think a
change in subject matter is essential? What will it get her
that she is not getting now?
Or does it go a bit deeper than that? Perhaps you don’t
like the people whom she has to rub shoulders with there.
Could that be it?
You not only liberal you are also a moron in the highest degree, If you know the right way to operate a computer other than make stupid idiotic statements on this post you would fined web sites telling how make everything mentioned here.
One of the dumbest posts on this forum. It says nothing
except that you can’t handle what is going on around you.
And another raging lib showing their lack of ability to have a reasonable conversation. Your President is going down in flames just like this country. If we don’t bring God back o America, there soon will be no America. BTW, If you’re calling me out, you should know a little more about me.
Dave: He and Daisy Douchebag are professional trolls…..
We the people. I’m glad you brought that up. Actually,
we the people voted for this President for several very good
reasons. Nobody has taken your rights away from you.
You somehow seem to have this notion that you shouldn’t
have to pay taxes for anything that doesn’t benefit you
personally. Doesn’t work that way. Learn to live with it.
We told the President we want socialized medicine. We are
in the process of getting it. Fifty or sixty some years ago
we told another President we wanted retirement security.
We got that too. And I am so happy it is there.
Anyone with a brain in their head knows that it is important
to have things like clean air, safe transportation, roads
and bridges, food that is safe to eat, mechanisms in place
so that we must be told correctly what we are being sold,
emergency crews when bad things happen. These
things cost money. And if you have a job, you will
help us pay for those things. My heart bleeds for you,
of course, but that is how it is.
I pay my taxes. And I’ve listened to you enough have a nice day and God bless America and you
Maybe you voted for socialized medicine but 77% of the told the potus they didn’t want his medical bill.
77% of the ______ told the POTUS First of all,
fill in the blank – would that be 77% of fans of Fox News?
Then tell me where you got your information. I can
find you some quite different numbers.
Well, at least the fans of FOX news have some sense.
Why don’t you read some statistics about Fox News’
viewers. It came as no surprise to me but it might to
you.
And where did you find these statistics? I will be happy to look them up, but I don’t usually fit many statistics.
What dykeboy, that they they are educated, WORK, respect the law, pay taxes, are religious.
Oh come on Dutch. You can find number to support and i can find numbers to support. Statistics are just lies by another name. You favor the country going one way and i favor another and we can both justify our beliefs. You seem intelligent enough to know whether it is Obama, Bush, Clinton, Reagan or Millard Fillmore it is not about caring or love of country or helping the poor and middle class. It is power and votes. All the rest is just to keep us all busy fighting.
It is not strange… to mistake change for progress.
Millard Fillmore
Yes, I did not find numbers, and at least a few of the
questions that were asked and how they were answered.
I have already cited my findings.
Have you done so for yours? And then Mr. Brown says that
at least Fox viewers have more sense. Now that is one that
isn’t even up for grabs. The only two choices there are
“less” sense or “no” sense.
Apparently you miss my point. Never mind.
“It is not strange… to mistake change for progress.
Millard Fillmore”
Fillmore – one of our more esteemed Presidents. But that is OK, I
would guess that this statement as it stands, does not represent the
full breadth of what he meant to say, any more than Obama quotes
represent Obama’s feelings on things.
But hey. Free Speech. We have to love it.
If you wish to live in any time from the last century to the Stone Age
go ahead and WANT to. But if you want to take the rest of us, who
don’t wear cowboy hats, I’m afraid you will have to set about to find
some new territory.
“http://www.slate.com/blogs/business_insider/2014/01/30/does_watching_fox_news_ma…..”
Well, why don’t you take a look at these lies and how they were
discovered and analyzed. People had an opportunity to write
comments on this particular site, and the Top Comment said this:
“Digging at FOX is fun, but the fact that MSNBC and CNN showed
almost no improvement over “no news” (my addition: which still
had higher points than FOX) strikes me as suggesting that Cable
news is strictly for entertainment purposes and not for information.”
The person probably has a very good point. And I would also
like to add this little aside. I have seen CNN on public (hotels and restaurants) television sets all over the US, Canada, and Europe.
The only place I have seen FOX News on a restaurant television
set is Texas, and in Europe – nowhere.
As for me, as I have mentioned before, my info places of choice
are NPR, the BBC, and Jon Stewart. The BBC was not listed
on the questionnaire but NPR and Stewart had the “most informed” listeners.
Someone was on Jon
Stewart last night or the night before (it was Mark Ruffalo, I
believe) and right of the middle of his giving his little spiel for
whatever movie he was pushing, he threw his head back and
said “Oh, gosh I am going to miss you.” And I couldn’t agree
more. The guy has been so great for so many years and soon
he will be gone. Colbert was fun and funny, but Stewart is
just flat out great.
David D: “Oh come on Dutch. You can find number to support and i can find numbers to support. Statistics are just lies by another name.”
OK, show me the numbers that would suggest much of anything
good about Fox News. And perhaps, because those numbers about
the uninformed have been all over the web, why don’t you show us
ab out Fox’s denial or counter-response.
Thank you , for jumping in. he drives me crazy.
Boy! You’re dumber than a damned rock, eh douchebag??
77% of who/what !?!
Have you actually asked your daughter what she is being
taught? Don’t you think she might have need of some
proper English, maybe some algebra and chemistry, A
foreign language could be useful. Everyone should know
some history. Isn’t she getting any of these things?
I fully agree. The problem is they spend all day with others their same age. The articulate students are in the minority. My point all along was that we had large glasses with tough teachers & we learned much more.My 6th grade teacher,Miss Laird (long passed), helped me with pronouns & verbs. Remember diagraming sentences? But we didn’t have the discipline problems. I should mention I changed schools 11 times due to my dads job. I am asking my daughter not to place my youngest grandaughter in public school when shes old enough.
You are saying that all schools are worth is to teach
kids to mindless drones! Just how low will you go? Are you really that sick along with sickening? Does your life
revolve around hatred for your government and the
people who reside in this country? This may come as
a surprise to you, but I’ll bet we could get along without you and others like you very well, indeed.
I was listening to some youtube presentation just a couple
of days ago, and the person interviewing an actor from
Canada asked the actor why the bulk of people from Canada seem to be a whole lot nicer than so many of the people in the United States. The actor replied that he believed it was because they had things like socialized medicine. And it made me laugh because last summer a friend of mine who has lived in Canada almost all of her life except for a few years in college (which is where I
met her) , said almost the same thing. She described
Canadians as being more laid back, ready to go with
the flow, and she believed that in the end they had
more peaceful and happy lives. She also asked me
why it took Americans so long to get socialized medicine.
I said that we really don’t have it yet. But hopefully
Hillary will bring it to us. Get insurance companies
out of our health care.
In Marxifornia, we are now teaching how important the LGBT community’s contributions are to Marxifornia as well as Obama’s presidency.LMFAO!!
No way would I let my children attend school there. We’ve visited California 11 times. We loved San Diego & Sausalito & San Francisco & also drove along the coast. But no way could I live with the super liberalism & 1000’s of regulation. We lived in Wyoming for 13 yrs & we had no government nanny problems. We moved to CO 12 yrs ago gor better jobs & so my daughter could go to Colorado State. Unfortunately, CO took a turn to the left shortly after we moved here. We live in a smaller, conservative town.
God Bless! OOOPs the religion police will have the I.R.S. audit me now!!……California is a beautiful state , run by wide eyed, tax and spend, “we know what’s best for you” liberals. Their ilk are moving to Oregon, Washington and Colorado. We now call this state Marxifornia.
You are right about state being beautiful natural and landscape wise, it the Jerry(Moonbeam)Brown and the moronic Holly Wood sect that has ruined California for normal Christians. They scream and holler about out sourcing jobs to other countries yet their movies are film in Canada, Australia, Mexico and other foreign counties.
With small minded conservative values that are suitable for those who like too be compared to sheep .
What ever floats your boat but others dissagree . Not only that but they have a constituional right to
their beliefs same as you .Do you not think that Jesus was a left leaning socialist . The coment about it being easyer for camels to get throug The Eye of The Needle than rich men to ennter the Kingdom
makes him sound like a commie
Sounds like another PAID TROLL…
YOU are a TROLL, hiding from The Muslims under a bridge, scared shitless!! Holy shit, here they come!! Did you shit your pants when they found you? I hope you were wearing your Depends. LOL!!
Faye, why don’t you take your foul mouth and go someplace you will be appreciated. I don’t know where that will be, but it is not here.
Let’s have a contest as to who has the foulest mouth
around here.
Let’s not.
Wow Faye you are so clever. Do you kiss your mother with that mouth or just use it on your tricks for crack money?
How much cock are you sucking for pennies in the street to use the internet cafe? I think you should find a new hobby and visit a clinic to get cured of all the STD’s you no doubt have.
You have a dirty filthy mouth & I am going to flag your skanky ass!!
This is something that always amazes me, though I have
lived around it (through my family and tons of relatives)
most of my life. The religious conservatives seem to be
stuck in the Old Testament, adoring the God of vengeance.
They seem to forget that Jesus ever existed. Jesus changed
things. He said he came to change things. The law is
to take a back seat to our community with others. He always
made it known that religion was not just for the Jews any
more but for everyone.
One thing that I do have to say about my family and
relatives. They NEVER talked like this gang on these
forums. They are religious through and through and
they are conservative through and through, but they are
in no way mean-spirited and nasty like what I find here.
I’m a religious conservative. I don’t adore a God of vengeance. And I don’t spend time wasting my breath in forums like these.
But you did — the contradiction within your own post makes anything else you post less believable.
I strongly believe in freedom OF religion which must include freedom FROM religion rather than the “conservative” party’s push for freedom FOR their current majority religion. Demographics change and if all of us that support freedom, the essence of which is individual liberty, do not support it now and fail to demand and secure separation of church and state now, when a different philosophical or religious group becomes the majority, all of us could well be subject to rules, regulations and/or laws which we find repugnant.
By “religious conservative” I mean Orthodox Christian (you know, like “Greek” Orthodox, but I’m Antiochian). I doubt that you know enough about Orthodox Christianity to critique it. We don’t preach a “God of vengeance”. I suggest you show your ignorance elsewhere.
I did not criticize any religion — not even yours.
I noted that your post indicating you don’t spend time on forums like these is contradictory to the act of having done so, making YOU, personally, less believable.
I concede your point. I don’t generally participate, but I keep getting drawn back in by responses that I thought were so simple, that I thought I would be quickly done Sorry if that makes me less believable, Sue.
“‘m a religious conservative. I don’t adore a God of vengeance.”
I’m gland to hear that.
Boy you sure can spread it Dutch. Do you do this off the top of your head or work a couple drafts first?
” Do you do this off the top of your head or work a couple drafts first?”
Typically, off the top of my head, but these are things I think about a lot
so I guess the drafts are already in my head.
Name chapter and verse, or leave your opinion on Jesus where it belongs. And the fact that He warned against the love of money doesn’t make him a communist.
Jesus, and his earliest followers, including Peter were far
closer to being communists than is Obama.
Who is talking about Obama being communist?
Who is talking about Obama being communist?
Are you kidding? When you find the answer to that, then you
can also check out who is calling him a Muslim and an illegal
President (born in Kenya, and that sort of thing).
He’s only a socialist. But give him time.
Most Christian fundamentalists are
fervent anti-Communists. But can the same be said about their god? Let us open our Bible to Acts 4:34 – 5:11.
It reads: “Neither was there any among them that lacked:
for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold, and laid them down at the apostles’ feet: and the distribution was made unto every man according as he had need.
“And Joses, who by the apostles was surnamed Barnabas,
(which is, being interpreted, The son of consolation,) a Levite, and of the country of Cyprus. Having land, sold it, and brought the money, and laid it at the apostles’ feet.
“But a certain man named Ananias, with Sapphira his
wife, sold a possession, and kept back part of the price, his wife also
being privy to it, and brought a certain part, and laid it at the
apostles’ feet.
“But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine
heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of
the land?
“Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it
was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.
“And Ananias hearing these words fell down, and gave up
the ghost: and great fear came on all them that heard these things.
“And the young men arose, wound him up, and carried him
out, and buried him.
“And it was about the space of three hours after, when
his wife, not knowing what was done, came in.
“And Peter answered unto her, Tell me whether ye sold
the land for so much? And she said, Yea, for so much.
“Then Peter said unto her, How is it that ye have agreed
together to tempt the Spirit of the Lord? behold, the feet of them which have buried thy husband are at the door, and shall carry thee out.
“Then fell she down straightway at his feet, and yielded
up the ghost: and the young men came in, and found her dead, and,
carrying her forth, buried her by her husband.
“And great fear came upon all the church, and upon as
many as heard these things.”
FROM:
http://www.deism.com/communismbible.htm
Come on down to Texas. We’ll welcome you.
My dad lives next door to you in Oklahoma and I’ve had some Texan friends but I don’t tolerate heat & humidity. After almost losing my then 18month old daughter to a tornado, while working as an RN on night shift, I left Indiana & eventually moved West. After the tornado, my marriage fell apart, also. I’ve been remarried for 33 years & except for creeping liberalism & health problems, am as satisfied as I’m likely to be this side of Heaven. But I do like Texans but even your state is beginning to be overrun by illegal immigrants & some liberals trickling in. I wish there were a place to hide. Obama has managed to ruin this great country & puts the most pressure on more conservative states like yours.
KLH6 and Raul: No, don’t come to Texas. We don’t
need another one of your type down here.
Sorry Dutch, already here, and loving it.
Well said, Raul.
Tejas, and Arizona, the last few states that are worth moving to. Too bad dykeboy stinks up Texas !!
It’s Texas, not Tejas, moron!! I think it is you who is stinking up the state that you reside in. I live in CT& I can smell your stinky ass from here. LOSER!!!!
You stupid, East Coast, libTURD maggot!..”From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:Tejas may refer to:
the Native American spelling and pronunciation for Texas”. …But of course you twats in Con. don’t read or travel, you just sit in your tires on your porches, scratching your obamas. Here comes your handler to take away your computer..
Grow to expect the unexpected! He and foul mouthed faye are related!!
Geez, holland boy, my kids weren’t marxists until AFTER college. They were home schooled and received their G.E.D.s at 16 years of age. No political leanings till after the Univershitties got through with them. Go figure!…”Are you another example of the leftist, inclusive , caring non-believer.?”
How you gona keep em down on the farm?
“I see that spelling is not a genetic trait.” Common core???LMAO!!
Maybe they were just rebelling
against you. I could figure out
why.
Why, libTURD ass? Because I stayed home, provided a “family, loving home”, taught them right from wrong. The slug, leftist maggots in the univershitties instilled their entitlement, statist mentalities. Libturds hate those traits. ….
“The education of all children, from the moment that they can get along without a mother’s care, shall be in state institutions.”― Karl Marx
Osama – your colorful language would suggest that you are
not quite the wonderful parent you think you are.
Want to know what your failed attempt at English suggests??
My English did not fail. And I did not fail English, which was
my major.
In your case, it is too bad that didn’t happen. How did you
teach them right from wrong? A good slug over the head,
perhaps? That sounds about your style.
Well, I’m off to church.
Allah Akbar!!
That’s “Allahu Akbar”…
Aloha snackbar?
Whatever (YAWN)…
Allota Clarkbar?
Karl Marx’ father was probably like you, and he recognized
the need to get the kids away from daddy dearest at the
earliest possible date.
TROLL ALERT!! TROLL ALERT !!!
You had children?? Are they as fucked up as you are ? You should have had a vasectomy. LOL!!!
Dang leftist twat bitch! It took you this long to understand my last post?…..In your case, I approve of abortion. One less stupid, leftist, whore on the planet. You should at least charge for it, maybe you could then get off welfare.
Yes, I’m sure I got it right. Your kids are actively working
towards not being like you. More power to them.
You EAT with that mouth?
You suck……
No, but you probably do.
Faye stop posting you’re just an idiot.
And you should have been an abortion, Faye. “LOL”
Osama Obama, I’ve told you before that I am not a male.
But I guess you don’t catch on to much of anything.
In all likelihood your kids are not Marxists. You just call
them that because they didn’t grow up to be what you
wanted them to be. And can you imagine why perhaps
they decided they didn’t want to be like you. I could give
it a guess. For starters, you are rude and pathetic.
Maybe they became lefties just because you weren’t.
Somehow I cannot imagine that you would be a dad to
admire.
I am a Christian. I try to act like a Christian and live up
to the example that Christ has given us. Care for those
who are in need. I understand that is terribly socialistic,
but there you have it. Believe it or not.
Old newspaper articles reflect a reading comprehension level that is astonishing. I’ve read news articles, preserved in books about historic events, that have a much more interesting style than is seen today; literary allusions, poetic imagery, and MUCH longer, more complex sentences. The logical conclusion is that modern education is weaker, less useful, and less enjoyable. In fact, I grew up in a transition time when the new approach overlapped the old, and I used curricula from both stages. I had some of the new books and some of the old ones, and was free to compare them side by side. As a person with dyslexia, I consider the difference VERY important. I also grew up reading, comprehending, and enjoying the King James Version of the Bible. My perspective is that modern education is deficient, but old fashioned methods to teach reading are still available, and still work. I homeschooled my own children, one of who has dyslexia, and all three read for pleasure. Good education can help people read the Bible and enjoy it, whatever translation they choose. However, I like the New International version for children who did not learn to read the way I did, and it is a better translation than the KJV, from more and better texts.
Three of my grandchildren go to public school and they are thriving also.
The oldest is at the very top of her class. Of course, they are children of
comparative privilege, so that doesn’t say a whole lot.
Top of your class in today’s dumbed down pubic schools isn’t saying much.
Osama Obama: When you can say something that sounds
intelligent, the please do write again. You are embarrassing
yourself. Or aren’t you aware of that?
“When you can say something that sounds intelligent, the please do write again.”…..”the please”????LMAO!!!!
Hey dipshit! YOU embarrass everyone, just by being here!
Almost everyone here should be embarrassed.
I’m not embarrassed to be here, although the level of this discussion has gotten pretty embarrassing.
The dumbed down public schools. Of course, and you
rose above that. Every post proves just how wonderful
intelligent and thriving you are.
Go jerk off a camel Butch!
“children of comparative privilege” REALLY??? inbred, leftist NAMBLA kids.
Isn’t it wonderful that in most schools
today there is the ability to teach to
dyslectic children.
Well, of course dootch. They were able to finally teach you, huh shithead??
That’s “dyslexic”, Dutch.
“one of who has dyslexia”
how about this one: “one of WHOM has dyslexia.”
Judging by your grammar, your education has been worthless mr.liberal. You try again. Your trolling is terrible.
Hmmm. Is my grammar not good enough for you? Perhaps you could point
out some mistakes. I’m sure there are some. I have cataracts so I often avoid
rereading my posts to see how well I wrote them.
Actually, I graduated from college with a degree in English, leaving open the
possibility of teaching children how to speak and write proper English. But other things were in store for me. And for the record. I always got an A. I’m so very sorry that I have not been living up to your high standards.
Debate ?? No one is going to blaspheme against the Bible !! if you don’t believe that’s you business just shut up !!!
I have been a Christian for 34 years. My husband, 3 daughters, 2 grandaughters, son-in-laws & my father are all Christians. I have no idea what you are talking about. What exactly do you think is blasphemous? I love the added touch, “Shut up!” God must bevery proud of you. Remember, if you lead someone astray, God will judge you harshly.
“Remember, if you lead someone astray, God will judge you harshly.”
Good thing to keep in mind yourself. You are certainly
not the worst offender around here, but you don’t come out
clean either.
Where have you been for two weeks, you stupid, limp, sissy ass?
I have been to first the East Coast and then to Germany
and Belgium. Thanks for asking.
Hmmmm,, In that case God will be judging the democrats harshly for leading people astray.
Oooh, I’m scared.
I get the very distinct impression around this place that many
of you believe that God exists to do your bidding.
And you even believe that God loves your dirty mouths and
nasty lies, not to mention constant complaining.
God said, give unto Caesar… Remember that phrase?
Government is not bad. We are expected to obey the laws
of the land and pay our taxes. Isn’t it great that under our
government the people get to help make those rules and
other choices. Not so, back then. Be proud and happy
that have those choices. Be the patriot you all claim to be.
My sentiments also. I come from a very conservative
family. In my entire time growing up around them, I
never heard such garbage language .
Hey asshole, you haven’t heard me talk yet, Mr TROLL
Language lie “rats arse ” was from the neo-con
Thank you , I think it is time to ignore her. if you don’t acknowledge her she will have to go away and take her filthy mouth with her.
KLH: Someday, when I have loads of time, I would be
happy to have a little contest, using Disqus, as just who
resorts to name calling the most.
Dumbass troll alert !!! Dumbass troll alert !!!
Announcing your presence, Michael? Wash your mouth out, then come back.
Well KLH6, if you’d like a list of asswipe liberals:
Dutch is right at the top.
Then there’s filthy Faye.
Followed by Mortie Boy.
And we can’t forget cowboy meadows.
But actually, the biggest bullshitting troll in existence is headinhisass.. Once one of those moron liberals start, you end up scratching your head until it’s sore, trying to figure out just what the hell they were talking about from the start… Good luck with that!
If you sobered up, you might actually figure out what
someone was talking about.
Hey dipshit.. I don’t drink, and never have, but you ignorant trolls keep me laughing constantly! And most that come in here now know exactly who/what you are. What a waste of time with all those messages.. Did mommy help you write them? Geeze but it must really suck being you! ROFLMFAO
Actually, I like my life a whole lot.
I will pray for you. I am neither gullible nor ignorant. Your parents failed you, and your attitude is soooooo smarmy, Your words will come back to haunt you, believe me. Sad for you.
And what does your post say about you?
I don’t think you are a nice person. So I guess your parents
failed you too.
Oh really? No wonder why your life is a mess isn’t it? You rejected GOD and the bible and now you are blaiming the bible for being boring? You are a prime example of a bigot.
You haven’t read the bible to think that it is boring and to claim that it is violent??? So.. how is that boring if it is a violent book? It is only religious bullshit to people who have never read it in the first place but just want to bash believers like Atheists and Anti-Christians like yourself. One day you will see GOD and you will be judge by him and there is nothing you can say or do about it.
Steven: “Are you another example of the
great Christians who show up at this site?”
Are you another example of the leftist, inclusive , caring non-believer?
Are you just another DICKHEAD who talks out of his stinky ass??
Poor, poor Faya. Has nothing but typical leftist swear words and insults. Are you another example of the leftist, inclusive , caring non-believer?
I’m only going to repeat what Dutch has stated ” Are you another example of the great Christians who show up at this site ?”
Are you another example of the leftist, inclusive , caring non-believer.?
I believe there is a God a.k.a the evil author of that sick Bible and if so that makes him an enemy to all man and womankind alike…
What do you think about the Ko-frikken-ran??
Ah! LibTURD, sissy, limp wristed twit. Swearing is so typical of your ilk. Go stink up the Huff. Poo where you’ll be appreciated.
Osama: ” Are you another example of the
great Christians who show up at this site?”
I think that I will just keep using this particular
line, when I see your type posting.
Are you another example of the leftist, inclusive , caring non-believer?
FAYE , YOU DISGUST ME WAIT TILL YOUR LIFE IS OVER AND SEE THEN, IF YOU FEEL THE SAME, WITHOUT MY LORD AND SAVIOR , WE ARE NOTHING, THIS IS THE REASON OUR GREAT COUNTRY IS IN THE MESS ITS IN , TO MANY EVIL PEOPLE .
Sandy: “Are you another example of the
great Christians who show up at this site?”
Are you another example of the leftist, inclusive , caring non-believer?.
And you have the balls to call yourself a Christians & then you tell me I disgust you? To(sic) Too many evil people. So, you’re assuming because I don’t believe in your god or any gods, that I am evil ? This is why Christians piss me off!! You certainly don’t practice what is preached to you & your fellow Christians. You’re arrogance is disgusting. Your disdain for Atheists & non- believers is quite obvious. You really need to reexamine what it means to be a true Christian, because YOU are a false Christian. Wasn’t it your jesus who wanted his people to live by the golden rule ? From what I’ve read on this forum, most Christians have forgotten what the true meaning of that is.
Faye you really have no business trying to define what a Christian is because you don’t have a clue. Really you don’t.
I beg to differ with you. I was a Christian at one time, but it was because of religious people like you & your christian cohorts , that made me realize just how hypocritical you Christians really are. You claim to be true Christians, but you’re really not. Doesn’t your religion teach you to have tolerance for others who don’t happen to believe or not believe in your god or your bible ? Wasn’t it your Jesus who said love thy neighbor as thy self? How about turn the other cheek? Love your enemies, no matter how much they hurt you & so on… Live by The Golden Rule. That is the motto of The Christian Faith, is it not ? Your religion teaches you to love & respect good & kind people no matter what their beliefs or non-beliefs are. False Christians do just the opposite. You equate Atheists to devil worshippers, perverts, people without morals & then tell us we are evil & we will be punished by your false god & sent to hell where we will tormented & burned in fire for all of eternity. A merciful & loving god would not do this to his children who he claims to love. Therefore, I decided that if I had to live my life under the rule of such an evil, genocidal maniac as your god, Why would I want to keep believing in such an evil monster, without proof or evidence, that he really does exist ? If this god of yours does exist, I would hope with all my heart that he is not the evil god depicted in that unholy book you call the bible. Now, that would truly be a miracle. LOL!! Just joking around. Atheists don’t believe in miracles either.
See Faye what you will never understand is that Christians are just people and as such do the best they can to live by those rules. They screw up, they screw up daily and they screw up bad. They get mad they swear, they cheat and they lie but they do the best they can. THEY ARE JUST HUMANS LADY. Although they screw up they still have faith. Walking on water or big floods don’t matter,, faith matters. As to whether or not you were once a Christian I have my doubts. Going to church and calling Christian does not make you a Christian. Faith makes you a Christian and I have serious doubts that you ever had faith… Troll on dear………………………
It wasnt that that took you away from being christian. It was the 100 abortions from unplanned inbred pregnancies, and the church realizing the dirty slut whore trying to give blowjobs for change out of the offering basket to pay for her meth and plan b pills. The church kicked your whorish ass to the curb and you been bitter ever since taking solace in the arms and beds of relatives and any man, animal, or thing with a dick you could hop on to try and validate your existense of pure failure and sexual deviance the likes of which no scabby crotched whore has ever equalled you fucking cuntbag
I feel so sorry for you, Faye. You are missing out on so very much We can all tell that you are full of anger and anger eats you up alive from the inside out. Anger does not affect the people for which you harbor the anger, it only eats you up. And the cussing. Cussing just makes you be downgraded by anyone who hears it or sees it. It goes against you, not for you. You must be a miserable person. I will pray for you , but I feel only you working on yourself from the inside out will help. What a tragedy for a life could have been good. Again, I feel so very sorry this is how you made your life turn out. We each make our own decisions of how we will react to what happens in our lives. I am afraid you have chosen wrong, but there is still time to straighten up and fly right.
Faye, have you ever stopped to think about this: If I choose to believe what the Bible has to say and I am wrong, what have I lost when my life ends, but what will I have lost if I refuse to believe and the Bible holds the truth?
May Almighty God have mercy on your soul for it is out of IGNORANCE that you speak
Are you another example of the leftist, inclusive , caring non-believer?
You need to get some help!!!
You need to find a shrink & get yourself on some heavy duty meds that will help with those voices inside your head.
Dang bathhouse Faye!! that was so funny, original and , dang, STUPID.
Hayes—It’s a fearful thing to fall into the hands of God. I know all these words you have spoken, you
will be required to answer for. These words will all come back to you on your death bed.
You are really very sick. What’s boring is you and I really don’t think your ass is beautiful.
Go crawl back up your nasty mother birth canal, she left the best of your sorry butt there.
Well i think that any one who thinks our BIBLE IS BORING NEEDS HIS HEAD CHECKED OUT TO SEE IF THEY HAVE A BRAIN BETWEEN THOSE TWO EARS THAT THEY HAVE.
Your grammar sucks & so do you!! Anyone who really thinks the bible is the word of god, is either mentally incompetent or needs a lobotomy. What’s with all the caps? I would have to guess that you lack the intelligence to figure out how to turn them off?? DUH!!! Shit for brains!!
Well i guess you’er another smart ass.
Definitely a smart ass & proud of it!!
You know who is shit for brains are all of you that voted for the( P.O.S.) that is in our white house.
Fat ass is more apt.
I would rather have a fat ass than a Limp Dick.
Well, Faye, I guess that makes me mentally incompetent and in need of a lobotomy. I believe the Bible, and it simply has more credibility than you do.
You are an idiot lady !!!! You’ll find out when you die there is a God !!!
YOU are a brainwashed, delusional dumb downed Christian, for believing in such utter nonsense!! When YOU die, you will find out there is no god!!
you are so disrespectful
Do you really think I give 2 shits about what you think of me? I could care less!!
No I don’t and it really doesn’t matter.
What has happened in your most obvious miserable life to cause such hatred from you?
Really? Isn’t it aparent?
Hey, Shit for brains !! Learn how to spell correctly. It’s apparent, not aparent. There’s a book out there that helps people with their spelling. It’s called a D-I-C-T-I-O-N- A-R-Y. So, get your head out of your ass& go buy one. DUMB ASS!!!
Another spewed, frothing at the mouth post by a typical, leftist twit.
Is it penis envy that makes you so vile?
Sad, Sad Sad Faya!Nothing but swear words and insults. Typical of your ilk!
You can’t even get angry at these Pagans since they don’t know any better. Just look at this angry person who I believe is Faye and wonder if this is the extent of her vocabulary, her brain cells and her education. We need to really pity someone like this. They can’t mature, they cannot get on w/their lives because of their hatred! She’s so pitiful !
The FOOL has said in his heart there is no God(Psalm 14:1). God doesn’t hold anything back in His word. The Bible is God’s love letter to man and shows the total depravity of man and the solution, the Lord Jesus Christ.
The Gospel story is boring only to the unbeliever. But to the believer it is the power of God unto salvation. Read the book of Acts, follow the story of the first churches and the early missionaries.
Dear Ms. Faye, pardon me for saying so, but you are clearly a fucking idiot. Have a nice day, bitch. Oops, I meant stupid bitch.
If it so boring then why it the most read book in the entire world? Maybe the world knows more than you do. I think you pick and choose what YOU find negative to make your point and have no idea what the heck you are reading. If you disagree that’s Ok ALREADY. We know how many swear words you know that makes you ignorant person not an intelligent faithful Atheists. She does not have a liberal education. She has no education because she tries to make the same old points and then some one responses who is just about every one then she gets vulgar. The only education she may have gotten was from the well known university of The Satan University of Hate and her major was Swearing with a minor on getting on web sites and annoying all the people that believe in any God. I would give her an F. My faith is stronger thanks to Faye.
Rember your words when you stand before God all mighty on judgement day !!!
Looks like you couldn’t rember how to spell remember. When you stand before your god on judgment day, will he ask you why you were such a dumb ass?? LOL!!
Thank you for correcting my spelling , you must be realy smart . If you are as smart as you believe you are then why would talk about God like you do ? God will not be mocked !!
Then you have never read the Qur’an
Try that for a read..Sarbanes Oxley is its equal!!
Typical, athiest liberal. Can’t make an argument with facts, just ranting and cursing. I pity you.
Wow Faye you are really fucked up.. seek some serious help.
Or serious drugs…
“SO MUCH GULLIBILITY”…this from the “useful idiot”, and if you don’t know what a “useful idiot” is, look it up, Faye.
Yeah tell me again about my dirty mouth you bitch. I thought we agreed you were going to shut you rotten mouth and keep your stupidity to yourself.
Connie Alsip: “More if the same liberal/athiest crap the Dumborats are spewing at the
behest of that illegal alien from Indonesia via Kenya, and the criminal
behavior of the dems. smh”
Boring is a whole lot better than what you appear
to be from this particular statement. “Dumborats”
How clever. I thought that the righties had gotten over this type of junk 4 or 5 years ago. I should have known better. And “an illegal alien from Indonesia via Kenya” You are talking about our elected President and Commander in Chief. You had better be able to prove your allegations when you attack our duly elected Head of State if you care for your soul.
P.S. I AM a liberal. In no way am I an athiest.
I try to make my personal decisions and my
political decisions in a way that I believe Jesus
would approve. You ought to do likewise.
It took me a while at reading (I’m slow), but I sensed that this jerk was a liberal. And anyone that shows any amount of respect for the “commander in chief” , the mooselum from hell, sucks in my book.. Ah yes, I’m confident that you’ll throw all of your 50 cent words at me as a rebuttal, but anyone that supports the halfbreed terrorist in the white house has shit for brains…
Michael: “Are you another example of the
great Christians who show up at this site?”
Yep, another liberal comes crawling out of the woodwork…HA!
Michael: Typically, I don’t crawl. I guess that is
why you left early yesterday.
Dikeboy, he had to go to his job. He isn’t an Obama boy on welfare.
Are you another example of the leftist, inclusive , caring, non-believer?
So, are you another example of the leftist, inclusive , caring non-believer?
Commander in Chief.?????? This twat in chief couldn’t wipe G.W.s ass. Nobel Peace Prize?? This community organizer can’t come up with any documents that you, I or even that whore Faye could come up with, at a moments notice. How frikken transparent is that? Now go call your doctor that you can keep!!!
Whore! If you stood in front of me and called me that, I would
slap your ugly face.
And I have been going to the same doctor for 30 years and have an
appointment with her again next month.
WOW! I’m shaking. Of course you’d SLAP me, like the sissy , lame dikeboy you are. You’re ilk are repulsive, leftist, pukes. But, I digress. HaHaHaHa….
I should have known you were a woman.
Thank you. That is the nicest thing you have said to me.
The bible is a pile of old bronze age wives tales and NOTHING is true in it.
No different from The Lord Of The Rings or Harry Potter.
Or “you can keep your doctor”….”we have to enact this to see what’s in it”……..on and on……..
What a true, insightful prodigy!
Well that is your, however uninformed, opinion.
Amen Connie !!!! To hell with the atheists !! If they don’t believe why are they so upset ????
To hell with the Christians!! If they are so secure in their beliefs, then why are they so afraid of us ?
No one is afraid of you, but you spew, froth and get REALLY wide eyed when you see the word GOD!!!LMAO, the lord ocumstain is omnipotent.
Because you maggots kill innocents, behead innocents, burn innocents alive…..
Good for you “Connie Alsip”. I endorse your posting here. Thank you. I would like to remind you that this “fayhase” posting person will have the ugly obligation to express contempt before the Heavenly Court. When the reality sets in, you can trust that the “fayehayes” type personalities will plead for the mountains to cover them up, but the consequences will not be denied. YOU keep the Faith.
How very christian of you ,bearing false witness all the way and in an uneducated style too. For your information Ted Cruz is from Canada ,
While you are praising the wonders of the Bible, why don’t
you clean up both your language and your attitude a bit.
You are not a good example of Good Christian.
And you and I (and everyone else here) knows that
Obama is not an illegal alien, he is not from Kenya, and
he is also not a Muslim though you did forget that charge
this time.
It is not alright for Christians to lie. Unless you, like the
Muslims, believe it is if the end justifies the means.
I think (just my opinion, of course) is that what Faye really
finds is that a certain kind of Christian is boring. Well, never
mind. I will speak for myself. There is nothing in our little
rant here that makes anything appealing at all about
Christianity. Fortunately, most Christians are not like you.
Unfortunately, your type is the noisiest.
Atheists are all hypocritical morons who claim to stand for science and free-thinking but as the atheist commentors here keep proving, they are all illiterate morons who clearly dropped out from school.
I imagine many of them are outside McDonold’s sucking passing strangers off for pennies just to use the internet coffee every day. Sad.
Faye, why are you HERE? that is the question. You crawled out of the slime, just go back where you feel more comfortable.
Poppy: Are you another example of the
great Christians who show up at this site?”
Are you another example of the leftist, inclusive , caring non-believer?!
well at least I am not a communist like some people
and the Word was made flesh and dwelt among men. it is simply your ignorance of the love of God that causse you to think that His Word is boring. Jesus lived a perfect sinless life. He caused the blind to see again, the crippled to walk, and raised the dead, he healed the sick, and He brought the Gospel to the poor. he never said a cross word ; and no one could accuse him of doing any evil. Romans 5:8 but God commendeth his love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners Christ died for us. Romans 6:23b, but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
if you would let these simple truths sink into your heart, you would never call Jesus Christ and his word boring.
More like frightening that some people that thump it don’t even read the actual texts or, worse, do and still believe that is the way to live such as the wealthy Wilkes brothers funding fundies.
Yes it is another bible quote. You are boring!! GO bother some other people you Atheist bigot!
YOU ARE BORING!! Go spread your religious bullshit propaganda someplace else, YOU Christian Bigot!!!! Take your bible quotes & shove them where the sun doesn’t shine!!!
Leave then, hypocrite.
If I ever came face to face with you, I would punch you in that dirty , filthy mouth of yours. By the filthy& disgusting comments that you have been posting on this forum, I would have to conclude you were born in a whore house & your father was a pimp. He taught you well, YOU Religious BIGOT!!!
Really?Froth on Obama slut!
faye u should be ashamed, without GOD we are nothing.
Sandy, YOU should be ashamed. With your god we are all doomed!!!
Boring for you. I be live in God. All of creation speaks of design.
Quote Me something from the Koran that does not deal killing or as the favorite means of dispatching non- believers beheading. The Koran so states all non-believers will be put to death.
John: The Bible says that all non-believers will
spend an eternity in hell? Which is worse?
The difference is Bible does not preach killing the ones who do not believe, The Koran is very vivid about killing non-beilievers
Huh? So Christians are going to hell too? Wow.
You learn something new everyday, I guess. Or maybe
you just need to be around the right people.
Dikeboy is an idiot……koran preaches death to infidels, carried out by muslims everyday!!
Dikeboy! Which “bible”, the koran or the true God’s Bible is killing people TODAY!
You don’t really have to read it. Just go to hell like the rest of your kind.
No all atheist are boring and full of steaming obama.
All Christians are so…. boring & full of shit!!!
Well Faye ; Let’s see how you will feel when your looking up at the grass or maybe down at the fire .
Well blackhawk132, Lets see how you feel when you’re taking your last breath & your brain begins to shut down &everything you were taught was a big fat lie. The only place you will going when you die is back to the earth from where you originally came from. Since you are made of flesh, you will decompose back into the soil. This is true for all living beings that occupy this earth & you are no exception. As far as heaven & hell existing, absolutely no proof or evidence for that , whatsoever!! You need to start focusing on this life & enjoying all the good things it has given you & stop believing in an afterlife that doesn’t exist.
Faye,
I will believe if science can produce something out of absolute nothing.They keep trying but FAIL.
If I die ; I lose nothing if there is no God ; However I chose faith and see God ; WOW.
you are so sad
You are so stupid & ignorant!!!
Boring!!!!!
Shame on you !!
Faye, go count your food stamps, eh??
Where do you think your rights come from ?
The laws, the court system, the 10 commandments and mosiac law.If Shira law were here you would be toast.
Then I guess you will just have to be bored, Faye.
*** 3/ 17/ 22015 = That’s the problem with Christians. That turn the other cheek philosophy is okay until your ‘enemy’ is going to kill you. I think Jesus got it all wrong. Evil wins when good men DO NOTHING. You saw where that attitude got Jesus, didn’t you? Were y born to be the slaughtered pig under the knife of someone you are trying to ‘love’? You get to be free and worship who or what you want because other men have fought and DIED so you could. Bama Boy
Just for the record, be it right or wrong, I am anything but “nice” to the enemy. I speak my mind, and God will forgive me one day, but maybe only after a long, serious talk.
Who are the enemies that you are referring to?
You never answered my question. Who are these enemies that you are referring to ?
The enemies of truth. Is that so hard for you to understand? Starting with 9/11 and then to Sandy Hook. I think you already know this, so why the game playing here?
This is nothing new. This Indoctrination has been silently going on in all the colleges & Universities for the past four or five decades. America has been asleep at the Wheel…………..
What indoctrination? I’ve seen nothing bad come out of being in a Religiously neutral environment. Now there are some instances where I can agree that people are being too politically correct but I see no actual harm in our education system. We still have religious theory and theology courses and classes and almost every library in the US supplies religious based books of every denomination and religion. If anything people are learning more about the Bible through furthering their education with the support of their universities.
Actually, that’s utter nonsense. Yes, some schools teach religion, but MOST of the major universities–even some which were established by churches–have adopted the ugliness and profanity that is “religiously neutral”…whatever that is.
It means not saying one religion is above another or making it mandatory that you have to be a certain religion. What major schools don’t teach religion? Universities with a philosophy major makes sure that their students take classes heavy in religious studies, all religions. If anything the only schools that don’t teach religion are public high schools and that’s because there’s a diverse body of students and teaching a course in religion would be complicated for both the school district and teachers themselves. And there’s nothing wrong with being politically neutral, it just means that you’re not discriminating a body of people who have a different religion than yourself.
Actually I think you both missed the point that doomsdae was making. That is if I may assume this point. I think he was trying to say that the dumbing down of American has been the result of the overwhelming liberal majority in the education system. It has been shown over and over again that some of the basic facts of our American history are either not taught or misrepresented. It is so completely the liberal way. If anything does not conform to what they want you to see or learn they just ignore it or present it a twisted, perverse manner. How about just representing history and other subjects in a truthful, direct, simple way. Just say it like it is and open up the subject to discussion and learning. If I am wrong about what I thought doomsdae was trying to say then I am sorry. But I guess I made my point anyway.
Although I don’t completely believe it’s some ‘liberal agenda’ theory that makes this happen it is true that much of American and World history gets overlooked in the public education system. But there’s a reason for that: It’s public education. You only have so much time to teach these students all the material and the material has to be relevant or similar to what will shown on tests. That means teachers have to give students a very broad understanding of what was happening so that they are taught facts and dates over ideology and reasons/methods of why such events happened and what happened because of them. A perfect example is an AP US History class, you’re taught most of American history but it’s all quick progression and you don’t have enough time to truly understand what was going on. A better example for the present is when people talk about the Middle East, almost no one knows what the current history of the Middle East is or why it developed to the way it is now and the people who do researched it in either a university or on their own. The way we teach public school systems isn’t perfect, but the real problem isn’t simply political correctness it’s not allowing for deeper discussions and further studying into classroom materials because teachers have to teach students how to take a test over what they’re learning.
Mark Lahti: Yes you did make your point. It is a very
sad and sickening one.
” I think he was trying to say that the dumbing down of American has
been the result of the overwhelming liberal majority in the education
system. It has been shown over and over again that some of the basic
facts of our American history are either not taught or misrepresented.
It is so completely the liberal way. ”
Why don’t you give us some examples. Would the fact
that many (perhaps most) of the founding fathers were
NOT dedicated Christians be one of those dumbing
down items.
You have just made my point. I didn’t say anything about the founding fathers in relation to comment on the education system. But again, you take the conversation out to some other unrelated context in order to make some kind of a point that is totally lost because you fail to stay on point. The old saying “if you can’t dazzle them with brilliance then baffle them with BS”, seems to clearly define your comments. Twist, distract, confuse, lie, and whatever else it takes to make you guys sound intelligent and possibly winning the argument. And of course the name calling. And yes categorizing my comments as sickening is akin to name calling. It is truly a sad and demeaning way to conduct a discussion about anything. It is no wonder you folks have turned the majority of America against you. The last six years have proven, again, that liberal/progressive ideas don’t work in the real world.
Pappdave: Oh good grief. “adopted the ugliness
and profanity that is religiously neutral. ”
Wasn’t this site, or one closely associated with it,
supposed to be about religious freedom. So why wouldn’t
the State create religiously neutral colleges?
There is ugliness and profanity everywhere, which is
not found just in religiously neutral colleges. I’m finding
it right here on this site. And if you and I disagree on
what is ugly, I’m betting that we agree on profanity.
See if you can find any on the “Christian” people’s
notes.
2nd Chronicles 714 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
we do not have to depend on a political party to turn this nation back. Christians need to get a hold of this verse, and claim the promise.
Alan Brown: Why don’t you reread that verse?
“If my people…will humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways” You know of any hyper patriots here who
have humbled themselves, etc? That is not what
I am seeing.
I have reread the verse, read it, and have committed it to memory. God is not speaking to hyper patriots, he is speaking to Christians
Okay. I’m assuming first of all, that the hyper-
patriots here also see themselves as hyper-Christians.
But I could be wrong. But to move on. Your verse
says that God will forgive their sin and heal their land.
Then what. Do you see this as a call to act like
that woman in Austin? Again, I am assuming that we
would like to see Muslims convert to Christianity, or
at the very least, not group together to terrorize this
country. Does her methodology promote either of
those things?
Obama bows down to the muSLIMES!! Ha Ha Ha Ha.
Osama: You’re right. That is a laugh.
Thanx dutchtreat! Glad to see the Kool-Aid is wearing off.
Rattlejake: Vengeance is mine, sayeth the Lord.
You are supposed to act like Jesus, his human example, and
leave the vengeance to God.