In an 8-1 decision, the Supreme Court ruled Monday that Abercrombie & Fitch broke the law when it denied a Muslim woman employment because of her head scarf. The case, which centered around then-17-year-old Samantha Elauf, hinged on a singular legal question: could an employer refuse to hire someone for a religious reason if they did not specifically ask for a religious exemption?
In the majority brief, Justice Antonin Scalin wrote, “An employer may not make an applicant’s religious practice, confirmed or otherwise, a factor in employment decisions.” Scalin and the other assenting justices determined that the retailer could not turn Elauf away on the basis of a “look,” even if they were not specifically displaying religious bias.
Elauf had an enormous outpouring of support that wound up being truly bipartisan and multi-faith in nature. Christians, Jews, and Muslims came together to back Elauf, and the decision affirmed that religious liberty is not quite dead in America…despite rumors to the contrary.
It just so happens that this case is not the only instance of Muslim discrimination making the rounds. Social media has been alive with the story of Tahera Ahmad, a Muslim chaplain at Northwestern University, and her Friday flight on United Airlines. Ahmad claims that she was denied a sealed Coke on the flight because unopened cans could be used as weapons, according to the flight attendant. Ahmad pointed out that her seatmate was given an unopened beer, and the flight attendant quickly cracked his beer open to cover the logical gap.
The internet has gathered around Ahmad just as they did Elauf, flooding Twitter with messages of support and threats of a UA boycott. Which is all well and good, but where are all of these people when Christians are being discriminated against? Where will the eight justices who voted against Abercrombie be when it comes time to decide on gay marriage? Why is it only Muslims who find themselves with social and judicial protection?
Despite so much evidence to the contrary, Muslims groups (and the usual liberal blabbermouths) are claiming that these cases prove that America is still rife with Islamophobia. In truth, we’ve over-corrected. We shout down anyone who dares to speak ill of Islam. It’s become a matter of “bigotry” to blame this religion – even in small part – for the terrorism is so obviously inspires. It’s become “hate speech” to do to Islam what shows like Family Guy do to Christianity all the time. There were nearly as many condemnations of Charlie Hebdo as there were of the mass murderers. There was no “nearly” about it when it came to Garland, Texas; almost all of the media coverage focused on the evil Pam Geller.
Nice to see the Supreme Court stick up for religion. It’ll be nicer to see them remember religious conscience when they decide on gay marriage. And it’ll be nicest of all when Christians are afforded the same care and protections that we bend over backwards to extend to Muslims.
If these people want to practice their nonsense religion, they should go back to the middle east. They’re nothing but a PITA here in the USA.
Funny thing, Islam, Judaism and Christianity are all Abrahamic religions. All three worship the God of Abraham. They are also the world’s three largest religions.
Islam is not limited to the Middle East. It is the world’s second largest religion.
They say ignorance is bliss. You seem quite blissful.
BULLSHYTE; Totally WRONG again, they ONLY worship “ALLAH, and they reject Jesus and GOD. The raod to hell is wide and there re MANY that will find it. Go check the Bible stupid.
We NOTE that you seem embalmed in total ignorance.
I could be wrong – but I’m not. AKLady has it right about the Abrahamic religions,
and you do not.
You might also want to check your Bible about the road to hell, and then do some
turnabouts. I don’t think that your use of swear words and your snottiness is going
to get you where you want to go – either here or there.
YOU are also wrong. HOW – because the Moslems do not worship the same God. They say it is the same God, but use common sense: How can one group worship a God of love and another group worship the same God as one of hate and murder. They are two separate Gods. You need to study the books and lifetime of Mohammed if you think they are the same. In a way this whole discussion is funny – sick funny. All of you people that keep taking up for these people refuse to see all the harm they are doing everywhere else in the world but you think they are being mistreated in America – that is really sick thinking.
You are broadcasting your ignorance, and religious hate, for the entire world to witness.
Thou are not a Christian. Thou are not Muslim. Thou are not a Jew. All three honor the Ten Commandments.
The Lord thy God said “Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.”
But we look at actions and see exactly as he says. I have listened to sermons, clerics, Imams spread these ideas in different words. The actions we see ARE happening. It isn’t false witness. And Muslims who could never bring themselves to do all of those things Will protect the ones who do. And the goal of all Is the same. The methods are not. The goal is Takeover.
Catholics in Ireland murdered.
Christians in Africa are murdering right now.
America’s prisons are full of Christians.
Are all Christians murderers?
Islam is the second largest of the world’s religions.
You are painting all with the same brush. That is bigotry.
Not at all. Do you think we should all be Muslims? Do you strive for Global Islam? What kind? Shia and what sect? or Sunni and what school?
Do you think we should all be Christians?
Do you strive for Global
Christianity?
What kind?
Catholic, Baptist, Methodist, Unitarian, LDS, Quaker, Protestant ….???
Well, so you say. But if you don’t mind, I’ll take the word of the experts,
including Muslims themselves. The God of Abraham is the God of Abraham,
unless Abraham had more than one God – always a possibility I guess.
They are the same God but God himself will not recognize the Moslems on the grounds that they believe it is His will that they kill, rape, commit pedophilia (the TRUE God said the worse thing you can do is to abuse His children) and destroy anyone and anything that does not follow the unholy Mohammed. Make no mistake when you say that all Moslems are not alike: when any of the atrocities take place (past, present and future) the non-militant Moslems will harbor and give aid to their fellow believers because the fool Mohammed commands them to do so. THAT is the difference between our Christian God and their False God. Thus they do not believe in God the same we do.
The God of Mohammed is SATAN!! Mohammed was a FALSE prophet and the muslims worship him. The God Of the Christian faith is a God of love and the one true prophet of God is Jesus Christ. Why can’t you get this? Apparently you are not a Christian saved by the blood of the Lamb, because when you are, you have discernment of God’s word!
One thing that I have seen is that the Man Mohammed is held up as the model. A man with faults, entrenched in Customs…like theft of caravans, beheading people, taking slaves..just a lot of human things that fit in life of 600AD BUT NOT TODAY. He didn’t WANT to be model but people made him one. He didn’t want the Qur’an written down but they made one anyway.
Jesus as a Model is not a Human being only but with a spirit of more & his spirit Forgave us, because we don’t know what we’re doing.. Judaism didn’t have a messiah for a model but Tenach. The Messiah waited for will save the world On Earth as in Heaven. But Judaism teaches we have to Start and not destroy the World in impatience and anger. Some Sects of Islam think if they can make things Really really Bad, maybe they can make the Messiah come. Not true.
Hear, O Israel! The LORD is our God, the LORD is one! Thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.
Deuteronomy 6:3-5
Karen, Karen, Karen … the God of Christians is the God of Abraham.
He is not a God of love.
You need to CONTINUE into the bible, the NEW TESTAMENT, where Jesus is born and lived, and taught his FATHERS’ business. His first commandment was “LOVE” not “HATE”! YOU need to read ALL of the bible!
Interpretations Vary.
Islam says they have the Abrahamic Gd who they call Allah, but describe him different than the way Christians or Jewish describe. And then there are Reformed Jews who don’t take all words of the Old Test or Tenach LITERALLY. Most of Israel does not try to live, dress, or follow Customs from 2000BC. Just the Principles. The Main point. And to question and discuss, progress & improve, is important to them. LIFE is important and Deeds done on Earth is more important than any kind of afterlife.
Julea, there is only one God of Abraham.
Again, I’ll take the word of the experts. I am a Christian and you are
a Christian but I will be that our description of who He is is different
also.
Of course there will be some difference but on the whole there is a BIG difference in the way Muslims define or see the Allah and the way Christians or Judaism define or see Gd and what he wants from us. You have to admit that Allah seems to condone things we think are Horrendous wrongs. They have much more emphasis on FEAR & Terror of Allah and his ways. Its almost unrecognizable to us.
Why don’t you give me an example or two with a Koran quote.
For now,since I don’t have a lot of time today, listen to utube…Muftin Menk-Anger and Curse of Allah swt.
Then I’ll get back to you later.
Just how do the Muslims describe God?
You are right. It isn’t so much words as ACTIONS as someone already mentioned. How people act shows how they believe. None of us is perfect. I just disagree that the ideal of Allah in Islam is described right. (some of the Christians slip off. The writers of the Bible went off several times in the old Testament & put in customs too) But its just the Main Point, Actions that agree and willingness to Improve that count.
You need to restudy our Bible.
No Dutch – wrong again. The Christian worships a God (Jehova) that does not believe in murder; especially of little innocent children just because they and their parents are Christian. Our God does not believe that the entire Jewish nation should be eradicated because they don’t believe in the pedophile fool Mohammed. The Moslem God (Allah) was made up to be just the opposite when Ishmael and his mother were thrown out. The Allah god they worship is Satan. They do not believe in Jesus and Jesus is the Son of God and is exactly like him. They believe in the sex crazy pedophile Moohammed. God demands that you do no harm to innocent children but the Moslems believe just the opposite. It is impossible for God to be the model of love one minute and the model of PURE hatred the next. No- the Moslems do not worship the same god.
Apparently you missed that quote from the Bible that I sent yesterday.
Trust me, killing is in there. And it is killing everyone in the entire
family including the little kids.
They do believe in Jesus. They do not believe that he is God.
Neither do I. He has been described as the Son of God in the Bible.
I can live with that. We are all children of God. But he was never
called God in the Bible. That didn’t happen until 300 years after
his death.
A “little” knowledge doesn’t go a very long ways.
What’s this Dutchy, did You find something else to LIE ABOUT
And you are still wrong. When the Disciples asked Jesus what God looks like He told them that to look on Him (Jesus) was to look into the face of our Father, for we are one in the same. YES; go read and study the words written in red. STUDY them, don’t just read over them. God and Jesus are one in the same. And as far as you saying “trust me” I would never put myself up on that pedestal. I trust the Bible. And as far as the killing is concerned YES God told the Israelites to go into the many cities and leave nothing alive and take nothing with you because they are evil in all ways and deny me (God). That was the same reason that He caused the flood. The only people in all of the world at that time that believed and worshipped God was Noah and his family, and even a couple of his sons were divided between the people and God. God tells his people all through the OT, and Jesus said it himself, that God is jealous and He does have a temper that is justified. Again, go to every one of the civilizations that God told His people to destroy and READ why He said to kill everyone. Looks like you have a whole lot of homework. I will look forward to talking more to you but let’s do it on a level that pleases God. It’s good to have discussions between two people because they naturally lead to open discussions with others.
I just noticed that AK also quoted some scripture – from Deuteronomy
that also gives evidence of commands by God to kill.
Amazing about what some people don’t know about their own Bible.
And whatever Moohammed (oh that is so clever. I bet it would make
any 6 year old laugh), he was not any different from any other male
in those days. They married early, often, and young.
Virtually everybody who knows anything in history knows that.
Don’t pay any attention to Dutch, or should I say Dutchy, as she is just a big liar. She will lie about anything, much like our fake prez.
Please tell me something Dutch, do you love the Moslem people and believe that their ultimate goal of pushing their religious beliefs on the entire world is a good thing. You say you read the Bible but you seriously sound like you are a believer of the Koran. They are both entirely different religious beliefs and practices. Have you seen any of the utube videos or any of the pictures of what these people are doing to their own people along with ANYONE who disagrees with them. Their ultimate goal is to enslave ALL of the human race into their immoral lives or kill everyone who will not convert. Do you agree with that? All of the killings you refer to in the Bible took place during the OT days. Are you a Christian or are you someone who just studies the Bible so you can argue with God’s people?
And your remarks are totally unChristian. They consider Jesus to have been a prophet, the same as do the Jews. Their Allah is our God. I despise a religion that condones violence as our God is a God of peace. I don’t understand why Islam is so popular.
I am Jewish and other Jews only consider Jesus to be an upstart, at best.
AGain that word. Do you know any other? Don’t mention anyone
else’s ignorance.
Allah and Jehovah are not the same God.
Except they are.
More Lies. Intolerant islamists will cut your lying tongue right out of Your Lying MOUTH!
Suggest you educate yourself further. You knowledge base is seriously lacking.
You language use could also use a great deal of improvement.
Many of us need to further educate ourselves, for you to get a little info type into your search bar “is the Christian GOD the same as Allah the god of the Muslims. Do this before you make a further fool of yourself trying to shove Allah on others!!
Islam is an Abrahamic religion.
Allah is simply one of the many names for the God of Abraham.
The only ones displaying haltered here are those attempting to teach religious hate.
That was tried back in 1933. It did not work out very well, did it?
She is islamist!!
You’re right. The Hebrew God, Jehovah (aka Y A H W E H), has always been the God of the Christians and Jews. The descendants of Ishmael did worship the God Of Abraham —UNTIL… ye lil ole pedophile, muhammad, stole the lesser moon god, allah, from the Egyptians.
Why lie?
Why teach religious hate?
The Egyptians did not have a moon god named Allah.
You do realize that there are multiple Internet sites which provide factual lists of the Egyptian gods, don’t you?
Show me Allah in the Bible please.
The Bible says that anyone who does not except that Jesus is the Son of God has no part of him. Will be Happy to provide Scripture for this.
The Bible also says judge not, least thee be judged …
You are doing what a real Christian would not do — take pieces out of context to use as a weapon to win an argument.
Christian do not hate.
You are taking this out of context if you read the entire chapter not just one verse you will find it is talking about hypocritical judgement, in other words condemning someone for the same sin you are committing yourself, which is not the case here and has nothing to do with the previous Scripture refererence as I am making no assumption as to your position with Christ or anyone else’s. However to be a Christian means to be like Christ, so you must act and believe as he does. BTW just out of curiosity does the aka in aklady stand for ak47 as in the assault rifle. Also let’s keep the debate on an adult level and quit knit picking about punctuation. It is a social discussion not a college thesis. No one except you cares about a capital letter or a punctuation mark.
Oh yes, we English Grammar teachers do!!! It shows your level of education, and how to carry on a conversation.
Exactly.
The younger generation seems to glorify ignorance. It seems to be some sort of badge of honor.
Then they cannot figure out WHY they are not hired for ANY kind of job.
Then the far-right cannot understand why businesses bring in foreigners to fill the jobs.
It is a sad day when Americans graduate from high school unable to read, write, add, subtract and /or divide.
It is sad indeed when scum like yourself think foreigners are brought in for any reason other than Lower Wages
Oh, name calling.
I am just so hurt.
You are a prime example of what I would not hire to work in my business.
Your mother is calling. Its past your bed time.
What do You specialize in LIES?
Who would work for YOU anyway??
You are so right! The liberals have Dumbed-down our public schools so that some can graduate while the ones that CAN and WANT to learn are the one’s left behind! It is easier to LEAD the ignorant than the informed!!
Honey child, it is not the liberals who want cheap labor.
It is not the liberals who want the ignorant that are easier to lead.
Look carefully at the U.S. Census data. Don’t allow yourself to be brainwashed.
It is the “Red” states — the Republican dominated states — that have the highest percentages of school dropouts.
You are being told one thing, to divert your attention from what is actually being done.
Believe what you will, I already know Satan has your mind so muddled!
It is not Liberals who are stripping down funding for education in our public schools, it is the Red states doing that.
There is a big cloud over your head that must have you VERY confused! You need to clean out the corruption gathering around your brain that is keeping you from thinking clearly!
Check it out for yourself, some states that are governed by Republicans have had their eduction budgets slashed.
You Glorify Ignorance and let’s not forget LYING
In this case here, it is the main point which is meant that is important. No how its spelled, grammar of even in what language. Its the main point made understandable that counts
What counts is the total message being broadcast to the world.
That is correct — the WORLD,
America is becoming the land of the illiterate, as well as, the ignorant.
You should know, you spread more lies online than any other C*nt I know of
Most people give up name calling by the first or second grade.
Foul language stains the speaker, not the target.
Well let me check…Nope You are still a LYING POS
Then there are those of us who aren’t teachers but have a love of the written word and get shivers when we read improper punctuation and incorrect spelling! I have been known to wield my magic marker in public, correcting misspelled signs!
AK = Alaska.
Your words are anything but CHrsitian.
Yes, we do. Just for fun you should read Lynn Truss’s book “Eats, Shoots & Leaves”. It will show you why proper punctuation is important!!
The quran also says Kill the Infidel, it is the only so-called religious book that calls for the mass killing of anyone who is not muslim. That makes it an Evil publication
Bull excrement.
Catholics in the Central African Republic are murdering based on religion.
Germans murdered based on religion in WW II.
Christian have been doing it in the USA since 1973
Maybe, but they don’t have a holy book that tells them to do it LIAR
There is much of the Holy Bible that you have not read.
There is much of the various religion’s teachings you obviously know nothing about.
Ignorance is not an excuse — not under civil law, not in front of God when you are judged.
Live by hate, you will be judged for that hate.
“accept”. Not “except”. Two different words altogether.
Muzzies do not accept Jesus Christ as God’s son. They only look upon Him as a prophet. I look at it this way—If you don’t accept the Son, then you don’t accept the Father.
One of the biggest problems in Islam is Acceptance of anything other than what they are told. Tolerance is missing. Respect of others is missing. That’s one big point…RESPECT. Like say Respect for Israel or respect of Buddhism or Christianity.
In the past, and sometimes today, people who try to be Christians forget Respect too and have to be reminded. Even if people don’t define the PRICIPLE of ‘believing in Christ’, if their Actions are such, then they some got it. But ACTIONS of Muslims show they didn’t. It’s the way it is taught with all the old CUSTOMS forced on them & that they are forced to think “Allah Said SO” and he didn’t.
Seems to be a real big problem with some Christians as well.
Do not accept Jesus as the Messiah, Son of God.
Mormons
Jews
Muslims
Hindus
Ahmadiyya
Bahá’í
Buddhism
Arianism
Christadelphian
Christian Science
Unitarian …
Well, just goes to show ya who won’t be standing in line to get into Heaven. IMHO,
Ms, AK and Dutch..you have it all wrong. You claim Jews, Muslims, and Christians worship the same God. Christ is part of the God head, the trinity. The Word, the I Am. And yes he taught one man, one woman in a lifelong covenant. This is in the new testament.
No, Jesus did not.
What you accept is that which was approved in 367 AD by the Catholic Church.
You might want to read Surah 19:29-34 and compare it to the Gospel Of The Infancy Of The Savior — one of the Books omitted.
Just goes to show that someone has taught you to hate — has turned you into a religious bigot.
That is the last thing Jesus would advocate.
Maybe you should remember that the “book” you rely upon so heavily was put together by 13 Catholic Bishops under the supervision of the Emperor Constantine — beginning in AD 325.
It was actually not until 367 AD that the church father Athanasius first provided the complete listing of the 66 books belonging to the canon.
I do not hate. Just bc the other religions of the world do not acknowledge Christ, doesn’t mean that I hate them. Jesus also said that no one gets to Heaven except through Him. Now……….does that sound like hate? I don’t think so. I am not a religious bigot, much to your dismay. Jesus says that if you want to get to Heaven, ya gotta go through Him first…putting it in paraphrase. All those other religions you mentioned in your above-mentioned blog do not acknowledge Jesus as God’s son, right? I think you should read your blog again. Just bc I do not believe that they will enter Heaven doesn’t mean I hate or am a bigot. You libs sure have taken the words “bigot” “hate” and “racist” to the extreme lately. But this is a free blog. You are entitled to your beliefs, and I am mine. One thing, tho. I do not stoop to a seventh-grade level, and call a person names. That’s for the muzzies to do, as they don’t have the mentality for uttering anything else out of their filthy mouths. Do you want me to equate you on the same level as the muzzies?
Someone wrote hat Jesus said this and Jesus said that. The Bible as we now know it has changed greatly over the centuries.
As man disagreed, religions changed — and the bible underwent change to match what man wanted others to believe.
On one hand you say you don’t stoop to name calling then you go right head and insult Mulims by referring to them as “muzzies”.
I did notice that too. The timing was certainly not good.
Also, in your catholic view, those 13 catholic bishops left out quite a few other books that were supposed to be included in the Bible, one of which was the Gospel of St. Thomas. One other was the Gospel of Mary. The bishops thought it politically expedient at the time to leave them out. They are just now coming back into popularity. You can get them at B&N. There were quite a few more gospels that didn’t get published, bc of “catholic political correctness” at the time.
Not my Catholic view, simply a historic fact. Yes, those books are available.
Availability is not the problem. Ignorance is.
You could ask 100 Protestants, and 99 of them would know absolutely nothing about the Council of Nicaea or Books left out of the Bible. Most Catholics are also not well informed.
I’m trying to remember what they were called- Apocrypha- seems that there were 14 books in all rejected by Protestants, there are 11 of them in the Catholic bible.
Yes, it’s called the Apocrypha. I do not know why they were rejected. But, when the “King James” version of the Bible was published for the masses, it was deliberately left out, for what reason I do not know….I did not live back then. Ask yourself this……Why do they call it the “King James” version of the Bible? Could it be that it was the protestant “King James’s” VERSION maybe? He was the one who had it RE-written to his satisfaction. Translated, not transliterated. Also look up Genesis 1:1…..”In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.” Right? That’s what everyone has been taught. Right? Right. Now go look up in the ORIGINAL Hebrew bible what Genesis 1:1 says………….”In the beginning “GODS” and so on. So what does that tell you about who created the heavens and the earth. The RCC left it out, from the Gutenberg translations, and King James just left it out. That was pointed out to me by a rabbi quite a long time ago. So, who is right now? All I care about is having Jesus in my heart, having a personal relationship with HIM, and letting HIM guide my path. That way on Judgement Day, we will have a chance at staying up in Heaven, if we are called.
I have absolute respect for those of you who believe in the Bible and in God. I have my own reasons for my beliefs, I was brought up in the church, sang in many choirs. Teaching Sunday School and belonging to a Bible study class got me thinking on my own. I no longer believe, but I envy those of you who do.
Well, there you go. There simply is not much agreement to which books
actually belong in the Bible, much less how they are to be translated into
modern day language.
Not the King James Version.
Really, child you need a better education.
Constantine came many centuries before King James.
More over, it was King Henry who left the Roman Catholic Church to form his own religion. You see, he wanted to dispose of another wife, and the Church would not annul his marriage.
Your King James simply changed it more. He ordered a new translation written to suit his desires.
That is the point where Puritans broke off from the Church of England.
What the crazy church history book are you reading from? The delusion of church history for dummies?
Please look at actual history. You really do not want to embarrass yourself this way.
It is available on the Internet.
Even better, ask the Minister at your church.
Mormon, Christian Science, Unitarian I know for sure do accept Jesus…the others I have to look up.
You are a bit confused by the technicalities. Read carefully.
Christian Science
“We acknowledge His Son, one Christ; the Holy Ghost or divine Comforter; and man in God’s image and likeness.”
Pay close attention — “MAN in God’s image and likeness
.”
Unlike most other Christian groups, Mormonism espouses a distinctly nontrinitarian theology in regards to the nature of God.
The LDS Church teaches that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost are three separate and distinct beings
Unitarianism is the belief that God exists in one person and not three.
These are all cults, off-shutes of Christianity, some not even close to Christianity!
Since Jesus was a practicing Jew, obviously, Judaism is older than Christianity.
Hinduism is the oldest religion in the world — older that Judaism
.
Buddhism dates to 2 BCE.
Your birth doesn’t determine you beliefs! Jesus was teaching the Jewish leaders about his Father when He was 12 years old!
Try reading what someone else has written for a change.
Self-imposed ignorance kills one’s mind and soul.
Do you have ANY idea how many minds and souls YOU have self-imposed YOUR ignorance on? You need to go to a satanic site so you can get someone to believe and agree with your evilness!!
You cannot self-impose anything on someone else.
I’ll pray for you. You are going to need a lot of help to get through those ‘Pearly Gates’.
You speak with a forked tongue, as YOU just wrote that I self impose my ignorance on others but then YOU say that you cannot self impose anything on someone. You don’t even know what you are saying. Go to bed and don’t wake up.
“Self-imposed ignorance kills one’s mind and soul.”
Try reading more slowly this time.
Make up your mind, oh, I forgot, it’s not in use!
Thank you.
“Go to bed and don’t wake up.”
What kind of Christianity do you represent?
So what. You are extremely intolerant. Doesn’t your Jesus tell you to turn the other cheek?
Jesus tells me to believe in HIM and I shall be saved. PERIOD!!
Wow. Wish I could have been there to hear him say that to you.
“I am the way the truth and the light, no man comes to the Father except thru me” If this makes me intolerant, so be it.
Do you realize that you are quoting something that suggests very
strongly that Jesus is not God.
Why don’t you find me something that tells us that He is God.
I consider that as the most possible likelihood also. I do not
recall the Bible ever saying that Jesus IS God. Son of God. Priest,
prophet, king, the way, the truth, the light. But if it actually says that
he IS God, please show me the quote. I have yet to see it.
Open any Bible written in Spanish, you will find the word Dios repeateded frequently. It is the Spanish word for God.
Open any Bible written in German, you will find thw word
Gott ..
Open any Bible written in Arabic, you will find the word Allah repeated frequently. It is the Arabic word for God.
Take some langiage courses
What is langiage course. Don’t throw stones at your glass house.
Are you really that ignorant?
The word: ladies is spelled LANGUAGE ! :from another Alaskan lady of many years!!
I think you meant to reply to Twilene.
I believe both of you spelled it incorrectly
I did not spell anything incorrectly, I hit the wrong key while typing. They are next to each other.
It is a typographical error.. The “I” key is next to the “u” key.
Are you perfect, in everything you do?
I think the point is that how Allah is explained in Islam & what he wants of Humans is not the same as Gd or Jehova or Dios or Gott. The name doesn’t matter much but the Ideal does. Islams is just explained different & I can’t agree with their description. Some of the people missed the mark in writing it down and put in too many Arabic CUSTOMS. I think Mohammed ordered No one to write any book of Islam but Only words told to him from Jibral. But later people wrote stuff to try to keep everyone worshipping the SAME And for Social control. Then they missed the mark. For instance, No Creator said to kill all non believers or Jews or make all other pay a protection tax. No Creator said that. Not even writings of Noah’s Laws say that.
There are many more, but here is a short list
Central African Republic — 2015 — Christians murdering non believers.
United States of America — 2012 — Christians murdering Sikhs.
United States of America —
2009 – Christians murdering physicians,
2008 — Christians murdering — Knoxville Unitarian Universalist Church shooting.
1998– Christians murdering Barnett Slepian —
1996 — Christians murdering –The Centennial Olympic Park bombing, July 27, 1996
People do crimes all over the place but they are not following any Christian Doctrine or preachers to do it.
Christians — in America.
They burn clinics,
They kill doctors.
Really and what Holy Book tells them to do all this un-noticed arson & killing that only You ever heard of LIAR?
How young are you?
Orthodox Christian movements in Romania, such as the Iron Guard and Lăncieri, were responsible for the Bucharest pogram.
The Protestant led KKK egaged in arson, beatings, destruction of property, lynching, murder, rape, tar-and-feathering, whipping and intimidation via such means as cross burning.
Then there is the Anti-Hindu violence in India. The National Liberation Front of Tripura includes in its aims the forced conversion of all tribespeople in Tripura to Christianity. Then there is the murders in Odisha.
Then there are the Sabra and Shatila massacre in Lebanon.
Then there is the religious killing in Northern Ireland. Catholic v. Protestant that went on for decades.
The Lord’s Resistance Army, a cult and guerrilla army, was engaged in an armed rebellion against the Ugandan government in 2005
Then there is The Army of God which attacked medical clinic and murdered doctors here in the U.S. The Scott Roeder murdering Wichita doctor George Tiller on 31 May 2009. Eric Robert Rudolph carried out the Centennial Olympic Park bombing in 1996, as well as subsequent attacks on an abortion clinic and a lesbian nightclub.
Terrorism scholar Aref M. Al-Khattar has listed The Covenant, The Sword, and the Arm of the Lord (CSA), Defensive Action, the Montana Freemen, and some “Christian militia” as groups that “can be placed under the category of far-right-wing terrorism” that “has a religious (Christian) component.
There are many more, but this should at least open your eyes to truth and reality.
The real Christians do not participate in burning and killing only Christians in name only trying to make a way other than what the Scriptures tell to do…trying to make another way a shortcut to Heaven!
The Crusades — all 12 of them, spanning 200 years — were not fought by “real Christians”?
Real Christians did not undertake the European programs, in which millions of Jews were murdered.
Real Christians did not stand by and allow millions of Jews to be murdered in WW II?
Real Christians did not practice genocide against the First People of the Americas?
What’s that AK Lady, did You say Hitler actually hired intolerant muslim scum as mercenaries? And they loved rounding up folks and gassing them with zyclon b? You don’t say…You saw George Soros’ Daddy there too? I knew You were involved with scummy people. I bet they made You into scum as well
The Catholic Church also cooperated with Hitler.
In fact the Vatican issued passports to the SS which permitted so many of them to escape to Argentina.
Haj Amin al-Husseini cooperated with Hitler during WW II.
The Koch’s father built 17 refineries in the Soviet Union so he could continue to sell fuel to Germany.
The list of who did not cooperate would probably be shorter.
Not the same think AKLady2015, the entire country of Germany also cooperated with Hitler, lil’ dummy.
In fact folks who didn’t cooperate with hitler got dead, not the same thing as volunteering to be a mercenary and fighting for hitler.
Actually, the entire German people did not cooperate with Hitler. Some of them died for their noncooperation.
Don’t talk down to me about Hitler and Germany.
I had family members and close friends with numbers tattooed on their arm.
They were Catholic. They suffered immense torture, not simply captivity.
Than You should be against intolerant muslim scum, not with them
Religious hate is wrong.
Tell the Savage Muslims that religious hate is wrong. . Also tell the majority of civilized American Muslims who polling says believe in sharia law above the Constitution of the United States that religious hate is wrong. Tell that to the majority of civilized Muslims that polling says think that death is an appropriate punishment for ex Muslims who have converted to because they found more spiritual solace in other religions that religious hate is wrong. .
God’s law is above all other law. Always has been. Always will be.
Take Catholic Sharia for example– Divorce is not permitted. Remarriage after divorce is mortal sin, strictly forbidden.
Religious hate is wrong.
I will fight Arabs
Only One religion actually advocates the killing of a group and that is the muslims BS idea of religion. They also advocate pedophilia and they don’t seem to like folks who draw cartoon characters starring muhammed who is arguably one of the biggest pedophiles Ever. Only one retard (sorry retarded folks)on here who loves pedophile multiple wifed scum and that is the AK Lady C-NT!
Wrong,
The Old Testament permits polygamy and provides specific rules for the taking of additional wives.
The Torah includes a few specific regulations on the practice of polygamy.
The New Testament is largely silent on the matter. Paul only spoke to Church elders, not all Christian’s. His statement was quite specific.
When the Christian Church came into being, polygamy was still practiced by the Jews.
Josephus in two places speaks of polygamy as a recognized institution: and Justin Martyr makes it a matter of reproach to Trypho that the Jewish teachers permitted a man to have several wives.
So if polygamy is so fantastically legal how come the Mormons can’t seem to find a way to practice it legally without the feds suing them? Gee I don’t see the gov’t suing any muslims and those MFers have several wives and they are on welfare cause they can’t seem to even support themselves, let alone 3 wives & who knows how many kids?
I did not say is was legal.
I suggest you increase your reading comprehension.
If it is good enough for your ilk, muslims I can’t see why Everyone can’t Legally do it. Now LIAR tell me how You get Your Gov’t check every month
I often wondered why a woman couldn’t have more than one husband. It would certainly make for a wealthy household……
The Inuit people of the Arctic agree with you. Life in the Arctic is fraught with danger. Multiple husbands insure that women and children are provided for.
Gives me a total respect for the Intuit. How do they feel about Obama allowing the Oil Co. permissions to drill for oil up there? I voted for this man, but I certainly don’t want this pristine land and the animals and people who live there to have their lives messed up.
They love oil companies.
Alaska was purchased not stolen. Suggest you research the Alaska Native Claims Act.
They formed Native Corporations. The majority are very, very wealthy.
Alaska has very strict environmental laws.
It certainly would, and there are women out there who could handle it too. Unfortunately since the law applies to everyone but muslims, I don’t guess You will see it come about.
Well, that would be because our Constitution and our state laws are
not based on the Bible.
Thank you Dutch, and I must say I do love your answer, but that just begs the question of How are these muslims in dearborn, mich. pulling the multiple wife thing off? Are muslims just that special? A whole country full of laws and it seems like they don’t feel the need to obey any of them? Is that how it works in other country’s cause maybe I can find a better deal, and move elsewhere, just like muslims do?
The same way the Mormons in Nevada, and everywhere else do.
The state recognizes one legal marriage. The state issues one, and only one marriage license.
Their religious leaders perform the multiple marriages.
Well if the state only recognizes One Legal Marriage, then how do all these muslims in Dearborn get away with several wives? And I hear they get welfare money for all those wives too? Poor Mormons were just trying to practice their religion till the feds come along and crap all over it. why should muslims be Freer than Americans?
Child, there is no law that says how many women and men can live in the same house.
There is no law that says they have to be married in order to live together.
Are you really that poorly informed?
What bible have YOU been reading? Most Christians use the KJV of the bible and there is no book of Josephus or Justin Martyr or Trypho mentioned. Go get a REAL bible. The King James Version and study it.
The Catholic Church decided what Books would be contained in the Bible. That decision was reached by the Council of Nicea in 325 AD.
There are many Books which were left out.
The King James version of the Bible was commissioned in 1604, the first edition was published in 1611.
There is a great deal of history that they failed to teach you in school. The Council of Nicea took [lace under the Roman Emperor Constantine.
Oh, please. Don’t be so naive.
The one wife rule was Roman law, not Jewish, not Christian., and certainly not religious.
The Roman law was adopted by the Roman Catholic Church, which passed it down through the ages.
What does that have to do with Your precious muslims being the only group with a religious book telling them it is just great to kill everyone else?
You need to broaden you religious studies. It seems your frame of reference is quite narrow.
You really should not be so accepting of what some people tell you.
I certainly won’t accept anything a Lying POS scum like You says
Are you a Christian? Do you always talk like this? How many converts
do you have under your belt?
Actually Dutch, I’m jewish, so I don’t get those ‘extra points’ for recruiting like ak lady does. If I did, of course it would be ok for me to lie concerning matters of God.
You are no more Jewish than is the Man in the Moon. The nonsense you have spouted is not Jewish learning or law.
Well I told my dog what You said and he said “Rough Rough” and I agree,
You are as scummy as AKLady
Thank you. Coming from you, that is a compliment.
Deuteronomy 17
If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant; 17:3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; 17:4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel; 17:5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.
Wow, that is Your Book? That passage mentions killing ONE Person-LIAR POS
The Quran says to Kill ALL INFIDEL it is an EVIL book likely written by the Devil, Your Good FRIEND
Do you know how the Cannon of the Bible you accept as complete was formed?
Catholic Church — Emperor Constantine — 367 AD.
Have you ever read any of the many Books which were left out — New and Old Testament?
Oh really, grow up. There are many things you can find in the Bible
that does not make our or the Jews’ religion sound very good at all.
Whether they are the Words of God or some incorrect translation remains
to be seen. Cut some slack. Have you ever thought about this situation
if we ever took our beliefs seriously.
Until Martin Luther, no one in this wide world who would have gone to heaven. No Jews would because they didn’t and don’t believe that Jesus is
important. And then we all know that the Catholics were all evil people,
especially their Popes. And everyone else, simply weren’t part of the
landscape. They didn’t have a chance.
Makes you wonder why we haven’t aborted every baby since the beginning
of time because so many of them will be going to hell if we let them live.
Dutch there is a reason why Israel’s version of our tsa stops muslims for additional questioning on their way onto their airplane. Muslims by far make up the worlds scariest terrorists. Now Dutch, you can either admit that profiling for terrorists actually works, or you can look like the tsa, a bunch of dolts, who allow 95% of the dangerous contraband traveling get onboard the plane. Fact is Intolerant muslims are very dangerous because nobody knows when they might decide to ‘come unglued’
Another sad fact is there is only One religion that commands muslims to ‘kill the infidel’. They take great pride in this killing and they do it All the time & All over the World. Open Your eyes, You deserve to know the truth, not be brain washed by AK Lady2015 and the other liars on here.
You confuse Palestinians with Muslims. Many Palestinians are Christians.
It is a land issue, not a religious one.
Religious hate is wrong. You should have learned that much from WW II.
Religious hate is not Christian behavior.
Really, were those intolerant muslim scumbags who tried to ruin Pamela Geller’s cartoon exhibet palestinians too? Or is the Real truth just that much more Shocking? The sad fact is these intolerant muslim scum are Everywhere. Nobody, not even themselves know when they will simply ‘Go Off’ and decide they need to start killing us non-muslims.
Not all Muslims are terrorists.
Not all terrorists are Muslim.
Do not teach religious hate.
WW II – 8 million dead.
That is a religious hate lesson that should have been burned into the minds of the world — for all generations to come.
You musta done forgot how to count AKLady. Lots more than 8 million dead from WW2.
Why would You choose to side with muslim scum who hate Your family members?
My family was Catholic.
Religious hate killed 8 million in death camps.
Christian terrorists are busy killing in the Central African Republic.
Not all Muslims are terrorists.
Not all terrorists are Muslim.
“If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you … Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die.” — Dt.13:6-10
Your passage only says to kill one person LIAR Scum. The quran says EVERY INFIDEL You POS
Go Spread Your Lies Like manure somewhere else you POS
Your reading comprehension needs much improvement. It provides a long list.
Moreover, it is the translation approved by the Catholic Church in 367 AD.
Which does not necessarily agree with other translations — or the many books which were not included.
Another model of someone who claims to be Christian, but does not know the meaning of the word.
Did You say that muslims love goats? Is it because they like to have sex with animals? I think it is
This was for the Hebrews to remain a pure race as God had chosen them as HIS people. When Jesus came to earth and died on the cross, the veil was rent in two. the old law was NOT the way to redeption anymore because Jesus PAID the way for our salvation.
Pauline Christianity for the pagans, you just have to love it.
I pray for you cause you sure are ignorant for a breathing human being!
You are a perfect model of what calls themselves a Christian, yet does not know the meaning of the word.
I sure hope you don’t call yourself one! Boy what a farce!
Sunday morning Christians. Exposing people of that ilk is one way I serve Jesus.
“Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill. 18″For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished.… Matthew 5:17
This was BEFORE Jesus death on the cross! READ the BIBLE!!
Unless People repent, confess, and are baptized they willl not receive the Gift of the Holy Ghost and will not be able to understand the Scriptures in full except what the Lord wants them to understand.
The Gospels talk to the unsaved and the Letters are the Love Letters from different persons that God
had to write them down and they are for the Lords Kids in the Churches not the lost and undone that
has never got off their high horses and accepted the truth according to how it is to be! “There seemeth
a way unto man and the end is destruction”
The idea of “Christmas” was also started by the RCC. Ever do any digging into how “Christmas” came to be? It’s fact and can be found in any library in the world.
Originally, it was Dec 21, the Winter Equinox.
Astronomers place it in April based on the “Star of Bethlaham” l
Who cares …we celebrate the birth Of Christ at that time of the Year and decorate accordingly as we are led to do in hopes that other People can join in and enjoy the Season of Jesus Birth and learn to give like He gives to Us! If those who do not want to join in should go on down the road and quit giving their opinions about how others celebrate the Birth of Christ!
At that time, the RCC thought up incorporating the pagans into the church, by “blending” both pagan celebration of the “Feast of Saturnalia” and “Christmas”, which wasn’t celebrated until the “Feast” was incorporated into the church. It was agreed upon by both pagans and the RCC that “Christmas” would be December 25th, and ppl have been celebrating Christ’s birth on December 25th ever since. Only a very small percentage of the world’s population know exactly HOW Christmas came to be, because they did some digging into the early church and how just exactly Christmas was started. It’s out there. Ppl just have to do a little digging and they will find out the pagan roots of Christmas. Yes, the tree is quite German. The yule log is very pagan, but most don’t know about its beginnings. They are too busy to “dig”. Or they don’t want to. The others feign horror at the very thought of Christmas having pagan roots, and the RCC only tells its parishoners what it wants them to know about anything. The truth has just now (within the last 20 or so years ) been coming out slowly about the early history OF Christmas, and ppl have been opening their eyes about it and whether or not they should REALLY celebrate it because of that. What say you?
One wife rule was ROMAN law, not Christian? Again, did YOU not read the bible? The very first book tells us this, GOD made woman (1) from man’s rib as a companion for him. God did not make SEVERAL women to entertain Adam! One man and one woman. IF you were a Christian, you would have discernment about what you read in the bible, but those not Christian cannot discern the writing of the bible!!
You might go back and read the Old Testament again.
What you believe is Pauline Christianity, designed for the pagans. Right down to the pagan feast days
Easter — Pagan fertility celebration — right down to the bunny rabbits and eggs.
Christmas — Pagan celebration of the return of light.
Oh, and about Adam and Eve, did their children practice incest — after all there was no one else, right?
Again, you need to fall on your knees, ask Jesus into your life and repent of your wicked ways. You are so mixed up you have allowed Satan to muddle your brain! The only way back is to do as mentioned above. May Jesus accept you and clear your mind!
People can raise their hands and fall on their knees all they want too, but unles the Lord calls them by their name to be saved it will not happen! Quit giving people wrong information!
God knows the number of hairs on our head, He knows if when we call on Jesus to be saved if it is true or not. He (GOD) gave us a choice to make, wether to be saved or not, we are not suppose to wait until we are called to be saved. What kind of church do you worship IN?
God Our Father and Jesus Our Savior is not the same person! Jesus is His only begotten Son and it says so in the Holy Bible! Most people are so busy sinning they never hear their name called to be saved……they sure are not going to be having hell bent for election sinning programs going on and stop and be saved. Whoever and whatever Church you are affiliated with sure needs someone to pray for them so the Lord can deal with the rest of you!
Their Son went to a place and married a woman…so that tells us that the Garden of Eden was the only
perfect place on Earth at that time and jealousy got in the way.
Oh here we go again, one more person who thinks that the stories in the bible are real. How can anyone with a brain and a little common sense not realize that there wasn’t anyone around to document this stuff at the time (if indeed it did happen), and this book has been written in many different languages and interpreted and reinterpreted over and over again during these thousands of years by people (mostly men) with their own personal agendas to prove? Parts of it are quite lovely, I like Psalms, and some of the fables are good for guiding lives, but to say that it’s true and real is just plain wrong.
So, even if you DON”T believe in the bible, if EVERYONE lived as the bible tells us, we would live in a Killing free, hate free, greed free, stealing free, controlling free, evil free world. Which do you chose, the world we live in now or the world described in the bible? I would rather BELIEVE in the bible and Jesus and HIS salvation and get to Heaven than believe in myself and no salvation and take the chance that you do , and go to HELL!!
I would guess that you haven’t read the Old Testament yet.
I repeat what I said above, or can’t you understand what you read?
Yes, I understand very well what I read. If you read the Old Testament, and I’m pretty sure that you must have by now, you’d see that the stories in it aren’t all sweetness and light. Or maybe you only believe in the New Testament, I know some ardent Christians who carry copies of just the NT in their pockets and purses, and disregard what they don’t like about the entire bible.
You need to actually read the book.
It is full of sex, murder, adultery etc.
Yea, commited by those who didn’t belive, just like you!
Much of the Old Testament is simply rewritten Pagan beliefs which existed for centuries before the Bible ever came into existence.
Child, Roman law existed long before the New Testament.
The Old Testament contains multiple stories gleaned from many sources —
Being a Christian does not mean one must be ignorant.
The Earth is not 6,000 years old and written history has much evidentiary confirmation.
Wrong! God is the only Law Giver in the Holy Bible and His ways are the way! It is called adultry and
pologamy if they marry more than 1 person!
Read the Bible. You are making a fool of yourself.
You are sinning by calling folks fools…Jesus told us not to do that! Live by the New Testament and you will get yourself straightened out and find yourself a Church that teaches from the New Testament! It will never fail you…don’t you fail the New Testament teachings!
oops. Maybe you should reread the Old Testament to learn a little
more about divorce and polygamy.
Kill infidels in the Bible: Deuteronomy 13:6, Deuteronomy 13: 13, Deuteronomy 17:3, 2 Chronicles 15:13, Leviticus 20:27, Matthew 15:1-9, Romans 1:20-32, and Matthew 5:42-44.
There is more, but that should educate you a bit better.
Nowhere in the Quean did God say to kill innocent unbelievers. Provide proof for your claim.
I don’t answer two-year old postings and you shouldn’t either you old bitch
These people were ones who joined the Church somewhere of their choice and trying to make Heaven and were Christian in Name only…there are some but few that believe and do the truth according to the Holy Bible.
You make rebjiii look smart!
Notice how AK lady has gotten everyone way off the topic of the article and it just goes on and on.
The SCOTUS did not rule on religion or whether anyone can or cannot wear this or that on their head.
The court actually found the appellate court at fault for a technical error and remanded the case back to the lower court.
Praise God!
Long Live the Republic!
Pedophilia is only a disease in the modern, Western cultures.
Child marriage takes place all over the world. It is quite common. Some African tribes have a slightly different perspective on it — girls marry baby boys and raise their husbands the way they want them to be. Very low divorce rate. 😉
You are correct, but you forgot to also say why? That is because these same muslim scum are living all over the world bringing their pedophiliac ideas with them. ou also forgot to explain that these wives, some as young as 5 years of age are actually considered property, just like a goat or a dog and have no rights to complain. How would you like to be beaten every night before You go to sleep and have nobody to even talk about that with?
The Egyptians do not now, nor have they ever had a “moon god” named alkah.
Apparently, your mother failed to teach you not to lie.
Thou shalt not bear false witness. Exodus 20:16 KJV
Get an education.
You are broadcasting ignorance for the world to see.
You are an atheist how would you know
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And again you are wrong. Allah and Jehova are not the same. Yes we all come from Abraham in one form or another but we do not worship the dame God. The Moslems believe that Allah and Mohammed are revered and their members are told to KILL EVERYONE who does not believe their way. And by the way – that means you too unless you bend down and kiss their murderous butts.
Allah and Jehovah are simply names for the same God.
He is known by many names.
Islam is an Alhambric religion.
“Thou shalt not bear false witness.” Exodus 20:16 KJV
Shut your ignorance up when directed towards me or I will have you shut down. You are nothing but an uneducated loud mouth that condemns others simply because they disagree with you. YOU ARE NOT GOD!!!!!
You are threatening me?
For the FINAL time woman do not write ANYTHING to me or I will report you for Harassment and Disqus will shut you down. That is not a threat it is a promise – KNOCK IT OFF
Oooooh. You are so tough. And such a great representative of Christianity.
Ooooh, Christianity at its finest.
Sounds like something that someone who believes in a violent religion would do. Why can’t adult people have a civil intelligent debate without all the threats and nsme calling. I’m sure that God would not approve of this in any case. He said let your speach always be seasoned with grace definitely not the case in this discussion.
Again I Ask you to show me Allah in the Bible. I have read it many times and have never seen it. Please tell me Where it is.
People around the world speak and write in different languages.
Pick up an Arabic language edition of the Bible, you will find the word Allah.
In a Spanish language edition you will find the word Dios.
Pick up a German language edition, you will find the word Gott.
And Islam has two great prophets in Jesus and Muhammad.
Islam chooses to follow the murderous, raping, pillaging, and enslaving modus operandi of Muhammad instead of the loving, peaceful, forgiving modus operandi of Jesus.
Praise God!
Long Live the Republic!
P.S.
By your own words you will be judged ———-
“They say ignorance is bliss. You seem quite blissful.”
You are broadcasting your ignorance, and religious hate, for the entire world to witness.
Thou are not a Christian. Thou are not Muslim. Thou are not a Jew. All three honor the Ten Commandments.
The Lord thy God said “Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.”
Naw
I haven’t stated one single hateful, or ignorant, thing.
I know that you know that i haven’t and you know that i know that you are just playing a game of trying to advancing Islam here.
If you really want to go down that road further please feel free to state exactly what words was it that i stated that are hateful, or ignorant and back it up.
Then answer my question down below.
You are the one making the statements and comments full of hate and ignorance and everyone reading here knows that.
You are just a hateful bigot.
Repeating the same stupid, hateful, bigoted stuff over and over to different people.
Islam has two great prophets in Jesus and Muhammad.
Islam chooses to follow the murderous, raping, pillaging, and enslaving modus operandi of Muhammad instead of the loving, peaceful, forgiving modus operandi of Jesus.
Tell me why Islam chooses the modus operandi of Muhammad.
Praise God!
Long Live the Republic!
The Bible says there is one Lord, one faith and one baptism it also says God is not the author of confusion. The is one way to heaven and Jesus is the only way to get there. You must go through faith in Jesus Christ not in anyone else. THUS saith the Lord.
Right. Not the Jesus I believe in. He would not damn innocent, good people who are not Christian. You believe that hate if you want. My God does not teach hate. Your religion apparently does.
Then your not reading the Bible. It says when we stand before him at the judgement seat he will say to the unsaved, depart from me ye who work iniquity into everlasting fire. The Bible talks more about he’ll than about heaven no matter which version you read. And BTW God doesn’t condemn anyone you are right about that. It is our choice, we condemn ourselved when we choose our own way not his way. There is only one truth and whether we accept it or not, does not change the fact that truth is absolute nor does it matter Whethr we like it or not.
The One Truth is not about the brand of religion, it is about how one lives their life, how they treat others — especially those in need.
Some of the most important words a Christian must remember are:
If I were hungry, would you feed me?
If I were naked, would you cloth me?
If I were homeless, would you give me shelter?
If I were in prison, would you visit me?
Christianity is a way of life. It was never meant to be a religion. The Apostle Paul made in into something the pagans would accept.
Fortunately I’m not a christian, because I wouldn’t pee on You even if You were on fire!
The Bible also says ‘judge not, least thee be judges’ and found wanting.
Chosing isn’t judging.
That passage does not mean to give up all common sense. Many of the concepts in Islam just teach people wrong. Kill all nonbelievers is plain wrong. Destroy Israel is plain wrong. Never make friends with them is plain wrong. Martyrdom for Islam is wrong. LIVING and helping following Universal HumanRights is what we are supposed to do. Not kill and Die screaming Allahu Akbhar! Knowing this is WRONG is not judging. But You are right about American Conservatives not always following concepts of the New Testament and trying to set up a strong society where no one starves or is homeless or go into student debt like Private institutions scam them today, All Conservatives are not Christian.
Destroy Israel is Palestinian, not Muslim. Palestinians are not Arabs by DNA.
Palestine was a geographic area, and did not exist as a country until 1988. Geographic descriptions, such as “Smokey Mountains” do not designate nations.
The Muslims of Palestine, inclusive of Arab citizens of Israel, are descendants of Christians, Jews and other earlier inhabitants of the southern Levant whose core may reach back to prehistoric times.
Palestinian identity originated in the early decades of the 20th century. Their original Charter clearly states the country exists for the sole purpose of destroying Israel.
iTs Turkey, its Iran, its Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, in Pakistan, Qatar, Wahhabi in Saudi, it started with Mohammed but got much worse as time went on. You are wrong that its only the Muslim type of Pals. Very wrong. Mohammed thought for Sure that all Jewish communities around Mecca/Medina would join up with him like he was the Messiah or Last profit of Abraham, but they did not and told him so. He got really mad because he planned on Christians & Jews joining up Under him. That’s why he exciled 2 of the Jewish villages around Media and totally slaughtered – made the men dig a trench & them beheaded about all 800 of them. It took ALL day. Khybar was the village(sp?) (the women they took as slaves and Mohammed got his pick) This is the name Muslims also scream at ‘Jews’ to let them know someday they will do the same to them. something like -Khybar Yahud. But if you are not Muslim, maybe you don’t know.
Maybe you have a problem making a distinction between present day and previous centuries.
Unquestionably, you have a huge problem making the distinction between the Muslim majority and the band of terrorists.
Do you view all Christians as being the same as the murderers in the Central African Republic?
Do you even know what Allahu Akbhar means when translated into English?
“God is great!”
There is no god but Allah and Muhammad is the messenger of Allah.
Arabic-speaking Jews and Christians use the word Allah to refer to God.
Yes,of course I know the God is Great thing screamed in blasphemy as people are killed. Exactly what I meant.
Muhammad id NOT a messenger of GOD!! This is a man made concept. If you want to believe this, that’s your problem but don’t try to tell others this boldface lie!!
Every man of the cloth is a Messenger of God.
Everyone who takes faith seriously is a Messenger of God.
You SERIUOSLY believe that EVERY MAN OF THE CLOTH IS A MESSENGER OF GOD? Boy, are you brainwashed! Not every “faith” is of GOD!! Do you know what it takes to get ordained? Anyone can be ordained, even an atheist is they so wanted. All they have to do is meet the requirements and BAM they are a “MAN OF THE CLOTH”!! No GOD involved there!
Everyone who takes faith seriously is a Messenger of God. Everyone who lives their faith is a Messenger of God.
Mother Teresa is a prime example.
The Ten Commandments says Thou Shalt Not Bear False Evidence, so shut Your lying mouth
The only one lying is you.
I suspect you are repeating what you want to believe based on the brainwashing you received as a child.
I suspect You are the Devil
No your religion just kills the infidels who. Won’t convert to your religion
I am an agnostic.
Since I do not have a religion …
Are you talking about the murdering Christians? Those on a killing spree in Africa?
Are you talking about Christian? Those murdering doctors and burning clinics in the U.S.?
Can you PROVE they are Christians? Just cause they claim to be Christian, and they do these horrible acts doesn’t mean they are doing them in the name of Christ, they are doing them in the name of themselves!
Don’t you read the paper or listen to the news?
Lord, woman, I have no need to prove anything — it is a fact which is known to the world.
That still doesn’t PROVE that they are Christians!!
It isn’t condemning or hating ‘good’ people. It isn’t Islamophobia at all. Like al Sisi we know the way Islam is taught and preached has to be different and to take out old Customs that don’t apply. That man in Egypt is so Correct and as he says, if it is not done and Islam continues to declare on all the rest of us, the world will despise the way Islam makes people Think and Act.
I never seen a murderous muslim pedophililic savage who could uphold the Ten Commandments, especially the Thou Shalt Not Kill
You are broadcasting your ignorance, and religious hate, for the entire world to witness.
You are an embarrassment to America. You defile everything this country stands for. You are spitting on the graves of those who have kept it free.
More of Your specialty–LIES
Wrong…they read from the koran not the Holy Bible! They worship idol allah! It is really strange that we have lived with the buddists and every other religion that is not Christian and we have not had any problems like
with muslims who are stuck on being the only religion! Down with muslims and islam and send them back to
where they from if they cannot get in line with American Get along Ways where freedom of religion is the way! We are the the leading Country where people can worship their ways without problems until the muslims butted in with the athesists and no one forces anyone to worship period and not forced to accept religion period! Good Old Ways of America!
They also say You lying liberals are full of Sh*t,
but You don’t seem to mind
This is part of the muslim terrorist support network the orangutan in the wh set up. it is time REAL Americans start kicking out these muslim terrorist supporters. We need to impeach all of the supreme court scumbags.
Hey maybe if your kind self-deports to another place you can have it your way. In the US it is the correct way
I’m sure you meant to say it is the current way.Probably just a slight error.
The correct way and the current way are exactly thge same thing Chief. WHat is it about the Interrnet that makes people want to say things for others ?
This is a site where the right-wing bigots hang out.
AK LAdy put the jug away please
Sorry, baby boy, I am an old fashioned Christian. I don’t drink or do drugs.
Then why not go BACK to KOS or puffington post where all the left winger turds like you spew stupidity.
Another one with the childish name calling.
Your opinion only and be advised I am just as entitled to mine as you are yours.In the English language Current and correct are not the same all the time. Current= right now, Correct=being right.
chief your ignirance is showing your opinion of course is for you to make your correwcting what I said by telling me what I said is noit your right no matter where you look or what you read or say
More asinine ignorance from the left winger troll.
Most people give up name calling by the second grade.
Please learn English and use spell check maybe then I can understand you better.
As usual jumping to conclusions is to be exptected when it comes to the right. It is not my spelling it is because I am handicapped and it is the manner in which I have to type so take your BS insult about my knowledge and put it with the rest of your stupidity so it never sees daylight again. You sure as shit understood enough to try to put words in my mouth before. By the way under how many names have I corrected you thus far? Just curious.
Wrong again moron, the “current way” is against everything in the Constitution.
The same thing that allows them to use profanity and act like children. — they do not have to stand behind what they have said, or look at the person they are spewing hate at.
No, the American way. The only error here is yours.
Your opinion has been noted and rejected AKLady.
LOOKING IN THE MIRROR AGAIN AK ?
You are the byproduct of common core education. I know that by the way you talk. Why don’t you find a more liberal talk site that will gladly accommodate idiots like you! people like you are an example of why this country is where it is now! And as far as intelligence goes try using more common sense not common core!
Common core — you don’t even know what it is. I expect I have grandchildren older than you are. More mature, if not by years.
You never give up do you? You are so funny you liberal retards.I do all about common core it is a curriculum that slanders our founding fathers and lies to our children giving them false information about history which is how you got so screwed up in the mind!
You have been lied to. You bought those lies, hook, line and sinker. Such self-imposed ignorance is very, very sad to see.
You know what,you are not even worthy of discussion! You are too far gone to even see the light! You are an ignorant stupid narrow minded brainwashed socialistic rat who doesn’t even believe in our constitution which happens to be written by people far superior to you subhuman class of scum!
They say ignorance is bliss.
You seem very blissful.
Your post is a prime example of the need for a set of rules describing exactly what basics should be taught — to all students, in every state. Your use of grammar, punctuation and capitalization is in need of seriously improvement.
Your multiple grammar, punctuation and capitalization errors stand to evidence the need for a Common Core of basic education skils. Your language skills border on illiteracy. I am sorry that you were denied a decent education.
Your post is a prime example of the need for a Common Core. Everyone should have access to a good basic education. I am sorry you were not provided such.
Thank you. You have made my point.
You post is a prime example of the need for a common educational core. I am sorry you were denied an adequate education. Punctuation is one of the basics someone failed to teach you.
Follow your OWN advice, it would lessen the STENCH in your neighborhood.
I’m curious. What is it in your background that makes you so rancid?
DUtch PAm is not even a female just a made up name along with many others used by the same moron
I’m sure if it had been a Christian involved the Supreme Court would not have been so magnamous. The current administration is only interested in protecting the muslims and making this a muslim/shariah law country. I agree with the fact we need to clean house in DC and get a REAL GOOD EXTERMINATOR STARTING WITH THE WHITE HOUSE. Also, I don’t believe the Supreme Court should be for life. There should be a term limit for them also. The longer they are there the worse they get with their decisions. It seems now they are not following the law but just giving their personal opinions.
You would not know Sharia law if it slapped you in the face. Much of what is now American law came from the Arabs via the Romans. The math you use every day is another Arabic gift to society. Then there is thr written word … Medicine … Astronomy … Geography…
Many members of the U.S. Supreme Court are Christian. Your cry of discrimination is simply childish.
What is it that you like most about sharia law?
Praise God!
Long Live the Republic!
Much of what is now American law came from the Arabs via the Romans.
It came with a lot of other things — Math, medicine, geometry, astronomy ..
One of my favorites is Pythagoras’ law
BULSHYTE !!! Those were the Arabs BEFORE Mohammad the child molesting killer.
Maybe you should increase your reading comprehension.
I asked you what is it you like most about sharia law?
Praise God!
Long live the Republic!
How do you know I wouldn’t sharia law if it slapped me in the face. I think if I were raped and then killed for it or to not be able to appear in public without a male family member (who usually is sexually abusive), I would know. Our American laws came from English law. You had better go back to school and learn the history of our country. Our forefathers based our laws on Old English Law only they made more humane provisions for freedom of religion and other freedoms which most Americans take for granted but are not free. We are losing our freedoms to be enslaved by sharia law. AKLady you just plain don’t know what you are talking about.
In the beginning there was the Code of Hammurabi — the Babylonian law code of ancient Mesopotamia.
Roman Law is a descendent of that Code.
England was part of ancient Rome. English law is based on Roman Law.
Your education left out a huge amount of history.
When America was discovered by the English who settled here, they used old English Law as a basis for drawing up our laws. Got back to school. What they are teaching now is not the truth. The libs are rewriting all the history books to read history as they wish it had been. That’s why are kids are so dumb today.
When will you stop the imbecilc we are being mistreated because no one is kissing our ass thing? Self flaggelating is generally a Jewish thing since when did Conservative Christians start practicing Jewish religious custom?
Same ASININITY from the usual source of such stupidity and moronic spews
Yes, dear Pam. We have all noticed how nice and how bright you are.
You seem so blissful.
Americans have been practicing this so0called Jewish religious custom for centuries.
The U.S. Armed Forces used to require that all military be circumcised. If the individual had not been circumcised as an infant, the surgery was done when they entered the military.
Trust me the Jewish were doing it long before Christians
“Trust me the Jewish were doing it long before Christians”.
My statement was in regard to literal self-flagellation. Usually with metal tipped. multi-stranded whips. In some places it is practiced publically. The Philippines during Holy Week is one example.
In the 13th Century there was a Roman Catholic group called the Flagellants who took this to the extreme, usually continuing until they passed out from blood loss.
Interestingly, it is also practiced by some Shia Muslims. That happens in many countries around the world including India, Pakistan, Iraq, Lebanon, United States and Australia.
What is wrong with the Jewish thing? I am a Christian married to a Jew and he is the best human being I have ever met in my life. This is not self flaggelating but just wanting a little justice and for the laws of our land to be upheld and not given over to the muslims who are so intent on killing all of us and taking over the world with their stupid degenerate ideology.
If you call yourself a Christian and you profess to love God, but you hate gays, feminists, blacks, Planned Parenthood, non-Americans, liberals, Muslims, Scientologists, Climate Change believers, Democrats, the word vagina, mixed race couples, agnostics, Rachel Maddow, or gun control advocates. Then you are not really a Christian.Stop reading bumper stickers and maybe take a good long look at that Bible of yours— Jon Waldrep.
I am a Christian and I did not say I hate gays. What I hate is the LGBT being in my face all the time. They are trying to persuade young children and young adults to join their group. I have a nephew and grandson who are gay but they don’t throw it in everyone’s face all the time. A person’s sexual preference is a private thing and shouldn’t be made a political issue. What do you think about gays and all the other groups you mentioned?
Just as soon as you respond to my post in full you can ask me questions until then the ball is in your court.
What do you feel I didn’t answer?
You responded by answerring to gays there is a long list there of people Christianity is against.When you respond to teh list not just a small portion of it then we can talk
Okay, I do not HATE ANYONE. There are some groups I don’t agree with but I don’t hate them. As for Planned Parenthood, they are dishonest with their outward appearance. They are promoting abortion (murder of a helpless baby), teaching teenagers abut various types of sexual behavior including S&m, gay sex and other forms of behavior which are not appropriate for a tax funded agency to be teaching to young teenagers. I certainly don’t hate blacks. I don’t like what the criminal element is doing right now. They seem feel they have the right to kill innocent white people because somehow they have been left behind. There is only a fraction of blacks who feel that white people owe them and they are very angry and full of hate. I actually feel sorry for that faction that only knows how to hate. They are missing so much out of life. I have nothing to say about mixed race couples because it is none of my business but I have no problem with a mixed race marriage. As long as the couple love each other is all that matters. I will admit I hate the muslim ideology because it is so against everything our country stands for and robs people of their self respect and freedoms. It is a brutal and hate filled ideology. I don’t know what the word vagina has to do with anything. I don’t like the democrat policy because they are too much like the communist ideology where they want to control everyone and everything. Again, that takes away our freedoms. The liberal dems want to take guns away from legal American citizens who only want to protect their family and property. I know because I am one of them and someone tried to kick in my back door a few months ago but fortunately did not make it in. I live alone with my dog so I feel I need protection. That is just one example. I don’t that much about Scientologists so I have nothing to say about them except “to each his own”. I admit I don’t believe in this “so called” climate change as I have long enough to see climate cycle like it is now. I can remember going Halloweening in the snow in Ohio when I was young. It is coming back to that cycle again but there is no global warming. That is a myth that al gore started and he has become immensely rich from it. As for agnostics, that is their business and I really have nothing to say about it. I think God will still love them anyway. I’m not sure who Rachael Maddow is but I’m sure you can fill me in on her. Where are the feminists when women are being stoned to death in the mideast. They had a good purpose but now they don’t seem to do anything to promote women’s right anymore and are just a figurehead. I think I’ve covered all the items you mentioned.
It is impossible to be a true Christian Conservative and not hate it is also impossible to be a Christian Conservative and not lie. You just failed the test
I don’t have to answer to you. I answer to a much higher power. I was not being tested by you and you are just a big hypocrite because you don’t know anything about me.
They legislate from the bench. Ever thing is taken to court. And some things do not go to appeals court. Straight to the supreme court. The courts do not enforce laws that come from the legislative branch. Once more they American people got what we deserve.
Well, what can I say? Yes, I sort of agree with you about the Supreme Court.
Though someone in the Christian Science Monitor made a good case for the lead
judge being allowed to be the lead judge for only 6 years. And then someone else
would become the head of it.
What I don’t understand (exactly) is why you are associating this Court with this
administration. Stevens is by no means an Obama man. The group of right-wingers
is so obsessed with Muslims, and calling Obama a Muslim, that it is really getting
seriously pathetic.
I have very little doubt that this group – and I do make that distinction – is so lacking
in ability to make a political point in a qualitative way that you must resort to calling
him a Muslim, and a homosexual with a transgendered wife, and call him childish
nicknames like Obummer and Ovomit.
You also seem to think that the way to be safe in this world is to make enemies
and then fight them. Hmmmmm.
You are an embarrassment to America and everything it stands for. You need to find a country more suited to your hate and bigotry. Maybe someplace like South Africa.
He might but you would probably be there first. Nice of you to judge Campbell do you even know him? Just curious.
His words are all anyone needs to form an opinion about Campbell. He is an ignorant, bigot.
Know him? I would not be interested in meeting him. His statements are anti-American. He would fit nicely into 1933 Germany.
Speaking of 1933 Germany; Did I just hear you shout “HEIL HITLER” ?
Well you are correct about one thing
Since the whites were run out of government in south Africa the blacks have gone back to their tribal roots of genocidal racist slaughter and rape and pillaging and enslavement.
Praise God!
Long Live the Republic!
freedomringsforall. Nice name. Do you believe in it? What do you do to
promote it?
First of all, the whites were not run out of government in South Africa. They no
longer have complete control of the government (two very different things).
I decided to take a look at some sites on the internet under the search
“what is happening in South Africa.” It is not very encouraging. But what I
did find especially interesting (and the best documented evidence is on
a page called “Chaos as ANC Disrupts Council.” ) is they sound like a bunch
of American right-wingers at their worst.
There was a picture of a ANC councillor dances in the aisle with a AK47 in his
hand. They were being completely disruptive because they disagreed with
the draft budget. It contained increases for water and electricity, solid waste
and other essentials. And while the ANC does not have enough money
to buy elections, they have been using prostitutes to garner votes.
1.) You said: “Do you believe in it?
If you would have taken a minute or two and done the least little research and clicked on my id and went through my past comments to find out what i post and what i post about myself you would have not had to ask that question.
2.) You said: “What do you do to promote it”
Again if you had bothered to do the least little research and clicked on my id and went through my past comments to find out then you would not have had to ask that question.
In short i have worked in the private sector for some of my life and have worked in the public arena for much of my life.
I try to follow through on the founders constitution of this Republic and do my civic duties.
I have been a political consultant for people in every political position from county commissioner to a couple of the longest serving U.S. Senators, and helped with a couple of presidential campaigns. I have worked for legislators on Capital Hill and with the Congressional Oversight Committee and the Congressional Operations Committee and worked on developing the issues for the first legislation on EFTS and with that worked with the EFTS Commission and the Federal Reserve head of operations and others and with the IMF, etc. on that.
I worked on some cold war projects of main import that have never met the light of day with CFR members, Trilateral Commission members, and a couple regulars at the Bilderberger meetings like David Rockefeller, and David Abshire, and others.
I also had a opportunity during the Clinton administration to assist in the taking care of a couple of national leaders in Africa because they were supplying Ben Laden and his crew with illegal African gems from their nations before they were noted as Al-Qaeda.
Also, i have had the privilege to work with a team working to resolve the interface of military, and usaid and ngo efforts and others with regards to relief after the Mogadishu problems.
Also, i had the privilege to work with the Rwanda / Burundi crisis.
Most people really have no idea how horrific that situation really was.
For the rest of your commentary it seems that you are trying to be confrontational.
To the average reader it should be obvious that i was referring to the change of government without intent of meaning every single white person was run out of government.
If i had meant that i would have specifically stated that.
But then again if you had read any of my previous history and gotten a feel for me before responding you would have known that.
My reference to their return to their tribal roots had nothing to do with the individual acts of government but with the societal breakdown that is reported on a daily basis such as in the slaughter rate of non-south Africans infiltrating South Africa looking for jobs.
You are apparently not aware that Africa has traditionally for thousands and thousands of years been engulfed in racist genocidal slaughter, rape, pillaging and enslavement.
Nation after nation in Africa has been over and over engulfed in the struggle to maintain the trends toward civilization that the colonial nations started ever since nation after nation has come out of their colonial oversight.
It has been a mixed bag of results and it is a struggle all over Africa especially with the Islamic horde trying to drag them back to their slaughtering, raping, enslaving ways to try to gain more and more control over them.
And:
If this comment serves to inform even one person on the rights and freedoms of any or lack there of then i have struck again for the rights and freedoms of all.
Praise God!
Long Live the Republic!
You are also an embarrassment to America and what it stands for. The people who founded this country gave their lives so that everyone could enjoy religious freedom.
1.) you are a liar
The case before the supreme court was about reversing a technical error in the appellate court ruling and the SCOTUS sent the case back to the lower court.
2.) You are a liar
I am an embarrassment to America.
I have put my life on the line for this great nation also several times working for this nations governance.
State one fact as to how i am an embarrassment to America and back it up.
Praise God!
Long Live the Republic
Your mother wishes that she had visited Planned Parenthood before your birth, you are an embarassement to every intelligent American . You’d fit in well in CUBA, IRAN , China, Argentina, Valenzuela or Nigeria.
islam SUCKS, mohambone SUCKS, allah(satan) SUCKS TOTALLY!
I done drawed a nasty pikter of mohammy, done hung it up at 300 m and shot it full of holes wit pork greased bulleds. Then ah held my Bible and prayed that I could shoot mo akkurate next time, ah know there has got to be a passage about practice makes perfect.
PS
Frank, I agree with your comment…………
A huge embarrassment to America and its people.
This country was founded upon the belief of that Religious Freedom is a right for all people.
Quote] “This country was founded upon the belief of that Religious Freedom is a right for all people.” [Quote
TO BAD that the Islamic , Muslim Mohammad lovers DON’T believe that !! Hey stupid go read their “koran”.
I’ve read the Koran.
I’ve also read the Old Testament.
Maybe you should try some of it in an earlier translations. You know where the Good Book records the child marriages. Some of the “brides” were as young as three.
How about the New Testament Part?
I’ve read the Good Book, as you call it. Could you please provide chapter and verse that reveals that brides were as young as 3? I do not recall that anywhere. There were possibly quite a bit of difference in ages, we don’t know for sure because most of the time, ages weren’t listed, but every bride specifically spoken of was at least 13 or 14. It is current Muslim practice, in many places, to force young girls to marry older men. It’s never been a Christian practice.
Our founding documents do acknowledge that Religious freedom is a right bestowed upon us by God.
Those rights are acknowledged in our secular society as a right to them to the point that they come to the other guys nose.
That is the concept of EQUAL RIGHTS not special rights or just simply your or my rights.
So, Religion should not be imposing things on other people.
Abercrombie & Fitch was founded in 1892.
Has since it’s founding been a snob store.
With it’s remake under bankruptcy and new ownership in the 70’s —– still a snob store.
I do not like Abercrombie & Fitch.
I have never bought anything at Abercrombie & Fitch.
I can’t afford to shop at Abercrombie & Fitch.
I would not shop at Abercrombie & Fitch if I could afford to because I cannot stand their seaming worship of snobiness.
However the laws are not absolute and are not to be interpreted or enforced as of my absolute right in some perfect utopia or your absolute rights in some utopia but as a balance of your rights in an imperfect world.
They are supposed to be interpreted and enforced as where our rights meet in an imperfect world so as not to hurt your nose or my nose or the least possible of each.
I do not see this as a victory for religious rights because it is not.
1.) because it was only about a Hijab it was not about any universal Religious “right”.
2.) it decision is not over whether she can wear a hijab or not or if she was discriminated against because of her hijab or not. The decision was over the appellate court’s technical decision of summary judgment for Abercrombie & Fitch and stated the point was that the applicant need not show that they applied for a religious exemption but that the applicant only needs to show that there is some reason to believe that the employer’s decision to not employ was based on the employers assumption that the applicant would need a religious exemption.
Now the probable outcome will probably be more acceptance of hijabs in the workplace but that is not what the actual technical legal decision of the SCOTUS was about.
Laws are supposed to be enforced and adjudicated in this nation as of what a reasonable person would reasonably believe to be an accommodation that least hurts your nose and my nose so to speak.
For approximately 240 years in this nation we have accepted that if a business wants a particular dress code for their employees that that is acceptable.
For that to be acceptable the employer has to be able to enforce a dress code and if you do not like that dress code and that service you go else-where whether you are employee or customer just like I do because I can not stand Abercrombie & Fitch.
That is what is correct for EQUAL RIGHTS.
In this nation you should not have the right to run someone else’s business practices or terrorize them or run them out of business because you think you have the right to wear a headdress or a handkerchief of because our African tribal religious “right” is that you need to wear a 2 foot long pointed thing on your private part.
What is the next thing?
I hate the idea of drag queen bars about the same as I hate Abercrombie and Fitch but is that next thing that a drag queen bar cannot have it’s male employees dress in womens cloths because it is against some job applicant’s supposed religious “right”?
The Islamists are going to rue the day they started this because if they can force others to do things against their will then others can force Islamists to do things against their will.
For whom the bell tolls
It tolls for thee
As a practical matter there are a lot more non-Islamics than there are gays so maybe Islamists should learn one Christian principle that is phrased something like “do unto others as you would have them do unto you”.
We must all hearken to the teachings of our founders and to Lincoln’s firm reminder of the right and just cause for which their Declaration called for the Independence of all mankind, from the bondage
and enslavement of the elite’s desires for special rights, in favor of EQUAL RIGHTS for all.
Praise God!
Long Live the Republic!
Apparently you share my opinion of the current Supreme Court, or are you
just making an exception here.
I do not know what you are referring to.
Praise God!
Long Live the Republic!
This has nothing to do with equal rights.
It has everything to do with religious freedom.
Had the issue related to a Jewish man wearing a yamaka, would there even be a discussion?
Actually the case in the SCOTUS is not about religious freedom it was about a technical decision made by the lower appellate court.
If you would read the case and the decision then you would understand that.
But to address your comments about religious freedoms again:
You and many others do not understand that ALL rights and freedoms are to the point of the other persons nose.
They ARE NOT absolute rights and do not individually exist in a vacuum.
THEY ARE ALL supposed to be exercised and respected and enforced,and adjudicated, and restricted if need be, as EQUAL RIGHTS not absolute rights.
So, you are wrong it is not about as you said, “nothing to do with equal rights”, as a matter of fact religious rights and freedoms as all rights and freedoms in the U.S.A. are about EQUAL RIGHTS.
Rights and freedoms in the U.S.A. is always supposed to be about equal rights otherwise no one ends up with any true “rights”.
There is no Religious freedom without equality in the exercising and respecting and enforcing,and adjudicating, and restricting of them if need be, as EQUAL RIGHTS not absolute rights.
Your comment:
“Had the issue related to a Jewish man wearing a yamaka, would there even be a discussion?”
Makes no sense at all.
1.) It does not conform to Abercrombie & Fitche’s dress code so of course it would be a problem too.
2.) Also, again the SCOTUS case was not about whether she can wear a hijab or not. It was about a technical decision by the appellate court. So, the “win” in the SCOTUS does not necessarily mean that she or anyone else can wear religious head garb or anything else in a work place.
It is possible that the non-direct “chilling” effect of the SCOTUS decision may have an impact of making hijabs more accepted in the work place especially by people that wrongfully think that the SCOTUS case was directly about whether she can wear her hijab in the work place.
Praise God!
Long Live the Republic!
Help is available.
Please avail yourself of it, soonest.
The bad news is:
That you are obviously an uninformed liberal who instead of actually dealing with facts and truths and reading the SCOTUS case, decisions, and opinions would rather play your alinskyite card of personal derision and defamation attacks.
The good news is:
All that i said is FACTUAL and correct and you cannot find one false statement in my above comment.
Praise God!
Long Live the Republic!
Yamaka v. Hijab ..
Both are articles of clothing.
Both are worn on the head.
Both are articles connect to the individual’s religious beliefs.
OMG
The SCOTUS case ruling has nothing to do with anything on anyone’s head.
The SCOTUS determined that the appellet court made an error and sent the case back down to the lower court.
Praise God!
Long Live the Republic!
OMG
The Court had the subject matter jurisdiction; hence it had the right to accept the case.
Had it not had subject matter jurisdiction, it would not have accepted the case.
You do not seem to understand how SCOTUS works. They decide which cases they will hear.
Had this case simply been a ‘court procedural error’ it is likely they would not have taken the case.
Did the SCOTUS send the case back to the lower court or not?
PUT UP OR SHUT UP
Praise God!
Long Live the Republic!
Exactly what ‘help’ are you referring too. I am sorry to say so much to you Lady but please try to recognize the fact that everyone in this discussion disagrees with you and you refuse to admonish any teachings that are in opposition to your belief.
Admonish
verb (used with object)
1. to caution, advise, or counsel against something.
2. to reprove or scold, especially in a mild and good-willed manner: The teacher admonished him about excessive noise.
3. to urge to a duty; remind: to admonish them about their obligations.
See my earlier post I cannot work at some places becuase I wear skirts. The Christian or Godly thing to do would be to not make a stink about it and exercise your faith in God or Allah or whoever your faith is in and let him deal with it as Scripture instructs us to do. Godly people make it about God. Not about themselves.
Your dress code is it a personal choice or a requirement of your religion?
Is the employment clothing requirement a matter of safety, a uniform, or simply a matter of preference?
Islam is NOT a religion. Islam IS a total embarrassment to all of intelligent humanity. If the “AK” is real, you’d love my Dragunov…….
Religious freedom IS a right until that religion is against all humanity that believes we ALL have a choice! You don’t get any rights when you believe that your religion is the ONLY religion and if you don’t believe it then you will lose your head/life!
“I done drawed a nasty pikter of mohammy,” Was this post done tongue in cheek or are
you really what I had just described to Frank W. Brown as to the company he keeps.
I spelled “done” wrong, should have been “d-u-n” to have stayed in context. Islam IS NOT a religion ! As best as I can tell, a radical muslim will cut your head off while a moderate muslim holds your feet.
Honestly, it seems, at least to me, that in this particular issue A&F is at fault. For instance if this person was unwilling to work without wearing her head scarf and if there were a company policy in place that forbids the wearing of head scarfs of any kind while on company property, then A&F would likely have prevailed in this case. It is not enough just to be offended by something that others do in the workplace if that particular act has not been preempted by policy.
Anything worth doing is worth doing correctly and A&F has just lost sight of this life fact. Hopefully we will not all have to pay the price for the incompetence of this rather poorly managed company.
I seem to remember this case was when she came for the job she was dressed in a civilized manner. Then reported to work in full Muslim regalia.
Again, it doesn’t matter what tact she employed to get the job. If the company did not give her the proper information up front so that she could follow the rules, the company is fully at fault. If she was given the rules and refused to comply, the company would be well within their rights to terminate the employment.
And Jimmy you are OK with dis-honesty right? How many people have you ever employed?
And what dishonesty took place in this case?
If you can’t read it and determine your answer no way can I explain it to you.
I do not understand what you would ask such a question. It should be obvious, if you read my post, I deplore dishonesty. In the spirit of complete disclosure, I have been directly responsible for the hiring and firing of 10’s of thousands of people. I have written company policies and for many years was solely responsible for implementation of HR.
In addition I have been formally educated in Legal Studies and trained in human phycology.
I’d say that should qualify me as an expert in the field.
To your point, yes, I believe this women went to A&F with a mission and they fell for it, hook, line, and sinker. The fact that they did not prepare a proper defense against her tact leads me to wonder just how badly they wanted to prevail.
So, I am hired in a suit,(normal dress code of the company) then show up in my bathing suit for work, that should be acceptable? After all, no one gave me a dress code policy!
What you describe would not be acceptable provided you were told in advance of being hired and if you had the experience to understand how companies properly hire employes, you would never have asked this question.
On the other side of the coin, and I stress this fact, it is so obvious that A&F mishandled this entire case from beginning to end as to make one wonder if they had any intention of prevailing or was this all planned?
Wouldn’t it be her religion that would require her to show up for the interview in her muslim regalia??? They can’t just pick and choose when they will use the “religion card”!!
If an employer is signing the pay check they have every right to make the rules. You don’t like their rules apply elsewhere problem solved. If Lucky3511 is correct this woman tried deceit in order to get the job that alone would dis-qualify her with me that is if that is true. If I hire you in a suit and you show up naked bro you are history.
But they don’t get to make up new rules based on discrimination and religious hate as was done in this case.
If she was do adamant about her hijab why did she not wear it to the interview.
You statement is only partially correct. Most states and some counties have laws regarding employment with sever penalties for employers that overstep their boundaries. Additionally, the federal government makes regular inquiries into hiring practices of large companies as sort of a force to assure that these employers are doing exactly as the government desires.
As I understand the law suit which was litigated before the Supreme Court, A&F has no uniform dress code that would disallow the woman in question to dress as she did.
This was/is an open and shut case of personal discrimination and nothing to do with religion.
Exactly.
You know, I must be getting old! It used to be that companies could have a dress code and you either did what the dress code said or you went to work some place else. Just as business used to have a sign posted that said, “We reserve the right to refuse service.” Things sure have changed, and I might add, not for the better!
Individual states may enact “Right to Work” laws, but in states that are heavily unionized, laws that protect employers from predatory employee actions are removed to allow organized labor to gain a foothold in order to funnel money back to the Democrat party. This is just another way to take profits away from private business to fund the strangle hold that the federal government has enacted upon us all, i.e. ACA (Obamacare).
Anyway, this thing is just another freak show designed to keep us all from looking at the real issues.
So ALL companies, if you don’t want an employee wearing a jihab in the work place, PLEASE write up a policy ASAP as they are coming for YOU!!
Correct.
You have crossed into the most grievous of sins. You have equated God Almighty with the Devil.
Allah is not a pagan god — Allah is simply the Arabic word for God — the same God you worship.
Allah, Dios, Yahweh, Elohim, Gott, Adonai, HaShem, Adoshem, Baali, Eloah, Abba, Attiq Yomin, Shàngdì, Cheon-ju, Nkosi, Olodumare. Ar-Rahman, Ar-Rahim, Al-Quddus, Al-Malik …
There are over 900 words for The God Jews, Muslims and Christians worship.
CRAP! allah is a pedophiles idea of god, Jehovah is NOT allah!
You need to go back and read your Bible again. Some of those marriages in the Old Testament took place when the female was about 3 years old.
Also, we have the very immature use of foul language. Grow up. Learn how to express yourself in English, like an adult.
More BULLSHYTE from the usual source with a HEAD full of it.
You might also want to check your Bible about the road to hell, and then do some
turnabouts. I don’t think that your use of swear words and your snottiness is going
to get you where you want to go – either here or there.
“You have already made this comment. (by disqus).
Yeh, so?
You keep proving my points. Thank you.
What is it with you and the ultra stupid word? Got anything else in your
repertoire?
Give it up, Frank Brown. No matter how many times or ways you say it,
you are wrong.
Oh really your so smart what religion are Isis terrorists asshole!
What kind of an idiot would support their own country being destroyed by low lifes? Answer,a fellow low life!
You are so smart what religion were the terrorists who practiced genocide here in the U.S?
You are so smart what religion were the WW II terrorists preaching religious hate and burning people in ovens>
I could care less what religion the terrorists practice. Not all terrorists are Muslim.
There are Christian terrorists right here in the USA. They murder doctors and burn clinics. The murder innocent Sikhs.
There are Christian terrorists murdering in the Central African Republic. Convert to Christianity or die.
Foul language us very childish. Grow up.
Then they are not true Christians. Real Christians do not kill. Even Satan transforms himself into an angel of light. Beware of wolves in sheep’s clothing. Outwardly they are sheep. Inwardly they are ravening wolves. Spiritual people should be able to discern the difference. By their fruits ye shall know them.
Very impressive. And you have 10 up marks. The company here is impressive too.
Sure wish I was a right-winger from the back woods.
(oops, let me rephrase that. Sure wish I WERE a right-winger).
Yeah, Trolling is such a vital part of your life, RIGHT?
Just correcting my English. Or didn’t you catch that?
The Arabic word for God is Allah.
It matters not if the Arab is Christian, Muslim or Jewish — the word “Allah” means the God of Abraham, the God of the Old Testament.
No, it does not, and Arab Christians know the difference. Many of them pay for it with their lives.
Get a life!!
I have one. What is the problem with yours?
DMV photo with a Burka?? “Yes officer that’s me under there” Some use Bandanas and others Burkas, all to hid your face for one reason or another, Good or Bad!
Parlayer. Pam Dunn should use a burka to hide her ugliness. But that wouldn’t necessarily
take care of her mouth, would it?
I’ve got a solution (old solution) to keep women from talking, at least when their mouth is full.
This should not have been a case based upon religion. A certain “look” was required by the employer to get the job. She did not make a religion-based-prejudice claim. People lose consideration for a job all the time in theater, in movies, and males who want to work at Hooters. Bad decision by SC.
AMEN!!! They are just following obama’s lead which is illegal and makes their decision moot.
Except there was no set “look”.
Have you ever been in an A&F store?
Not enough information in this article, if what one of the commenters says is true…interview with no head ornament, then reported to work with one. My point about not appealing on religious grounds stands.
Yes, I have shopped at A &F, as well as Nordstrom’s, Saks … None have a uniform. In fact, each department basically has its own ‘dress code’.
Nordstrom’s has a generous employee discount making it possible for their staff to wear their clothes, as walking advertisements.
Lady – why don’t you try to move into one of the Moslem neighborhoods close to you. Get out and open your eyes and use some common sense. You have a heart for mistreatment of people and that is VERY good, but you are directing that love to the wrong people. Are you a Christian? If so try reading and studying. A very good site to do that is http://www.cbn.com. If you are not a Christian then I understand why you are misdirecting your thoughts.
Sorry, Phil — you are the one who is not a Christian.
You may claim that title, however, your words and actions say something entirely different.
“You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.” Romans 13:9
“Love your neighbor as yourself.” Mark 12:31
“Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven.” Luke 6:37
‘A false witness will not go unpunished, and whoever pours out lies will perish. …’ Proverbs 19:5
AKlad, you use Luke 6:37, but you are the one who is judging who is Christian and who is not. That’s hypocritical. You have no power or authority to determine who is Christian and who is not.
A Christian is as a Christian does.
I cited far more then Luke 6:37.
aklad, I could care less how many scriptures you quoted. The devil can quote the entire bible. I referred to only Luke 6:37 which you used, but you think you have the right to judge who is a Christian and who isn’t. Makes you look hypocritical.
Me thinks all you want to do is argue. Not good grammar but accurate.
I have flagged you for harassment and defamation of character. You are being moderated. You act like a Christian but you take it upon yourself to tell total strangers that they are not Christians. Who gave you the right to judge other people. That is in total opposition to God. Do not use my name or say anything else about me on this or any other subject. This is not a threat – it is a legal warning.
The Scripture tells us to judge righteous judgement. By their fruits we shall know them. Try the spirits and see if they be evil. Be not deceived.
I agree I have been told that I would not be hired by places Where I can’t wear skirts because it is not safe. Same thing. I didn’t Sue them. Just found a job Where I could wear skirts every day. No big deal. Some people just have to make it all about themselves. JESUS said we are to die to ourselves daily. For a culture who believes he was a great teacher this one didn’t learn much from him. As a Lamb to the slaughter, so he opened not his mouth.
Its disgraceful how SCOTUS treats Christians as opposed to other religions. Especially the islamist so-called religion.
IT IS A DEATH CULT!!!! SEND THEM PACKING BACK WHERE THEY CAME FROM!!!!THEY ARE ALL JUST WAITING FOR THEIR #s TO GROW TO TRY & TAKE OVER OUR CHRISTIAN BUILT COUNTRY!!!
U S ARMY VETERAN!!!!
Foolish, foolish man. Learn some history.
Muslims have been here since day one. They fought in the American Revolution.
In fact, Morocco — a Muslim country — was the very first country to recognize America as a nation.
Actually Morocco was the second nation to officially recognize the Untied States of America.
France was first.
If you want to talk about unofficial I think it would be easy to argue all kinds of arguments on that including simply the fact that in Great Britain going to war with the new nation it incurred all kinds of unofficial recognition of that nations emergence.
One of the main reasons for the early unofficial and early official recognition of the new Untied States by Morocco is that Morocco had just had a turn over in leadership and the new leader was interested in the help to consolidate his power that it was to reinforce the bountiful trade of goods and slaves with the United States and to hopefully increase it by treating the new nation favorably.
Praise God!
Long Live the Republic!
Maybe you should double check the facts.
The Facts i stated are correct.
Anyone reading here can research the FACTS just as you can and see that what is in my comment is true.
For the fun of it;
Here is an object lesson for you:
State exactly and specifically what fact and / or facts, in my above comment, are wrong and provide the proof.
Praise God!
Long Live the Republic!
Stupid Stupi stupid supposed “lady”
You claim about muslims in the American revolution is total BULLSHYTE and NOT supported by ANY facts.
And the statement about Morocco is another BULLSHYTE claim.
You seem to be in love with the word “bullshyte” even writing in capital letters
every time. Do you have some special affection for it. Perhaps your mother
taught it to you. Could that be it?
Read history.
You are making a fool of yourself.
That was then. Now, the fake peaceful cult is a terrorist training outfit.
You are damning all Muslims for the acts of a few.
Religious hate is wrong.
The last time religious bigots came into power, over 8 million innocent people were murdered.
America exists because a few sought freedom of religion.
You would actually be more likely to win them over to Christianity, you know, if you
acted more Christ-like. I don’t think you are going to win anyone over with your
attitude.
SCOTUS does not show religious preference. Never has. Never will. There are Christian religions which require head covering. Now, one of their member will not need to make the fight.
More Bullshyte from the usual source full of it.
You might also want to check your Bible about the road to hell, and then do some
turnabouts. I don’t think that your use of swear words and your snottiness is going
to get you where you want to go – either here or there.
Pam is a true Christian, there cannot be any doubt.
Church on Sunday, stabs her neighbor in the back on Monday.
That is not what the technical legal decision by the SCOTUS was about.
The decision is not over whether she can wear a hijab or not or if she was discriminated against because
of her hijab or not. The decision was over the appellate court’s technical decision of summary judgment for Abercrombie & Fitch and stated the point was that the applicant need not show that they applied for a religious
exemption but that the applicant only needs to show that there is some reason to believe that the employer’s decision to not employ was based on the employers assumption that the applicant would need a religious exemption.
Now the outcome may be more acceptance of hijabs in the workplace but that is not what the actual technical legal decision of the SCOTUS was about.
Praise God!
Long Live the Republic!
Let’s see if we can figure out just how true that is? Could it be that it seems to be that way
because we Christians have never had to defend our rights as Christians in the courts. I sort of
think you are saying what you are saying is because you feel as though your rights have been
taken away when someone else also gets rights. You know, like the homosexual thing, and the
right to speak publicly in the market place (that was the 1st thing I saw on Total Conservative –
some jerk trying to stop Muslims from speaking at their own Convention !!!), I suppose your
angry about the headscarf thing too. ( I wouldn’t mind about that one if A&F is a privately owned
company, but if it is on the stock market, that is another thing).
And don’t be so childish as to call Islam a “so-called” religion. Pettiness does not become you.
Okay. Join or die is a peaceful religion?
Christianity is a join or die religion if you happen to live in the Central African Republic.
Not long ago. Christians murdered Sikhs in Oklahoma.
Christians in this country also murder doctors and burn clinics.
Many centuries ago, there were 12 Crusades, spanning 200 years, in which Muslims were murdered by Christians.
This is one that Christians should keep track of. There is a payday for Christianity here. While I am no fan of Islam I am for liberty for all. That is what the Constitution says.
Judaism, Islam and Christianity all worship the God of Abraham.
Not all terrorists are Muslim. Not all Muslims are terrorists.
The 9/11 attacks were carried out by Saudis. They trained their. That is where the money came from.
Yet, Saudi Arabia is our ally.
NO DUMB REAR END; Muslims worship “ALLAH” which is different from GOD, Jehovah.
All Arabic speakers say Allah — even the Christians.
It is simply the Arabic word for God. The same God you worship.
You are embarrassing yourself and America.
Foul language only adds to your bad image and ignorance.
AKLady,
No, most Muslims are not terrorists. The 9/11 terrorists were Saudis. The Saudis are fundamentally Sunnis. Sunnis are the source of much of the terrorism that we are concerned with. But Shiites are not slouches either when it comes right down to it. All three worshiping the same God is a stretch but they do go back to Abraham.
Yes, 9/11 were Saudi nationals. Terrorists continue to train in Saudi Arabia. The Saudi remain our allies.
Christians, Muslims and Jews — all of them — worship the God of Abraham.
Try to remember Jesus was a devout, practicing Jew.
Shiites, Sunnis, Methodist, Roman Catholic, Greek Orthodox Catholic. Lutheran, Methodist, Buddhist, Russian Orthodox Catholic ….
AKlady,
As a historian I have no problem with remembering what race Jesus was. His disciples were also Jewish because they were all born and raised in Israel.
I was not exposed to Christianity until 1953 although I did know about churches when a boy in Long Beach, California as early as 1944.
Islam is NOT a religion as intended under THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA !!!! GOD help us all to wake up………!!!!!!
Teaching religious hate is wrong.
All religions are covered by the U.S. Constitution. Islam is a religion. It is the world’s second largest religion.
Muslims have been part of America since before she became a nation. They fought in the Revolutionary War.
More BULLSHYTE from the liberal moron with a head full of the same. OH WAIT, Maybe it’s Actually PIG FECES.
You might also want to check your Bible about the road to hell, and then do some
turnabouts. I don’t think that your use of swear words and your snottiness is going
to get you where you want to go – either here or there.
Such a wonderful image of America you project for the world to see, Name calling is so infantile.
Name a muslim that fought in the Revolutionary War.
Salem Poor, a war hero during the American Revolutionary War
Peter Salem was a war hero during the American Revolutionary War
Postage stamps were issued to commemorate their service. Guess you missed that.
How do you know?
Crap on the Muslims,we will kill all Christians, that’s their true feelings so no more work here girlie.
Every country has the right to establish those laws that best serve their people. I suggest you simply do not visit one of them.
Lady I have been in six countries had both Jewish and Muslim friends,I never tried to push American values on them. Had I I’m sure they would have pushed back. Keeping your nose clean is what’s needed
However, unlike those countries, America is founded on religious freedom. Hence, it is not a matter of anyone pushing their values on anyone else. It is a matter of respecting the differences in beliefs.
I find the head covering issue to be far less important then the refusal to take up arms in defense of one’s country, and/or the service to one’s country.
The court is the biggest joke of America. It Should be renamed, The Court of Islam protection. Because it sure does not protect Christians the same way. Let us hope the Christian God can protect us, None of Americas Justices can.
However, you are simply poorly informed. Christians, such as the Amish, are not required to serve as combat soldiers. The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that while they could be drafted into the military, they must be placed in non-combat jobs.
All religious connotations aside, several years ago a woman was going fishing and stopped at a quick mart for a six pack of coke. Later after drinking some of the coke the woman got nauseated, went to an emergency room where she died. The investigation found dried rodent urine on the unopened cans of coke. Therefore requesting an unopened can to wipe clean yourself is the best idea. Keep a few of those alcohol wipes even in your wallet.
Lets see if they stand up when it is a Chistian!!
They did. Those who’s religious beliefs forbid killing, even as an act of war, are provided military jobs which do not require them to fight.
Being a Christian Nation, all muslims need to be deported!
We Americans DO NOT want them here! They are nothing
but trouble! We have enough trouble with the POS in the
White House or should I say BLACK HOUSE!
“should I say BLACK HOUSE!” Why not? “POS” just didn’t get the message across.
Your remark is an embarrassment to this country.
The United States of America was founded upon the Right to Religious Freedom.
The United States of America is not a Christian nation, never has been, never will be.
Muslims fought, and died, for us in the American Revolution.
Morocco, a Muslin country, was the first to recognize America as a natation.
Have you always been an apologist of Islam?
Freedom of religion is a valuable right.
I suggest you guard it faithfully.
Teaching religious hate — of any kind is wrong.
You, and those like you, sound very muck like Germany 1933.
Freedom of religion is a right that must be guarded with zeal.
It protects all Americans.
Facts are not apologies.
Courts and government should stay clear of telling who may or may not be hired by a private business. No one has a right to a job and an employer has the right to employ who he wants for what ever reason he wants. It’s the employer’s money at risk, not the job applicants or the governments.
Right, we should go back to the wonderful ‘old days’.
Are you willing to provide food, clothing, medical and shelter to those who are discriminated against?
Islam is a religion only if you call National Socialism (NAZI) a religion. All the same attributes, a cult following of a murderous dictator.
You obviously do not know the difference between murder and the Constitutional Right to Freedom of Religion.
Not all Muslims are terrorists. Not all terrorists are Muslim.
Christians in the Central African Republic are murdering people who will not convert.
Please read your copy of the Quran, supposedly a compilation of the words of Mohammed. It dictates the massacre of ALL infidels, those who will NOT submit. A. Hitler did have one saving grace, he was not a pedophile. And he did not reduce women’s rights to one quarter of men”s rights. Do I need to provide you with the chapter and verse references?
There are many different religions. Many hold beliefs that I do not espouse. However, that does not equate to a right to teach hate.
The Christian religion also speaks to killing those who refuse to convert. Such killing is currently taking place in the Central African Republic.
Female child marriage was quite common in the Old Testament. It is practiced in many cultures. You presume the marriage is immediately consummated. That is not necessarily the case.
During WW II, my mother was an oil camp physician in South America. She spoke about providing cesarean sections for girls 8 and 10 years old. They were members of the indigenous people.
Pedophilia is only a crime, and/or mental illness, in cultures which prohibit adult-child sex. Many cultures do not. Hate changes nothing. Name calling is simply infantile.
Judge not, least thee be judged …and found wanting.
Do I need to provide you with the chapter and verse references?
I would appreciate it if you could provide ‘chapter and verse reference’ in the Old Testament for child marriage. I cannot find that reference.
Yes, I am well aware of the Spanish Inquisition, the Salem witch trials, the burning of heretics, the ethnic cleansing following the Exodus. But none of those are entrenched as a continuing modus operandi in either the Old or the New Testament.
Please do not play the Obama game of referring to practices, practices that no longer exist, that occurred hundreds of years in the past. They are not excuses for present practices.
Yet Muslims do nothing to reform their cult of death.
What have Christians done to reform their cult of death?
In the U.S., they murder doctors.
In the U.S. they vandalize clinics.
In the Central African Republic, they murder those who refuse to convert.
They did stop killing in Ireland, ot at least we do not hear about it anymore.
So now companies can’t have a dress code or uniforms.
They can have both, however, neither can violate the Constitutional guarantee of religious freedom.
Sounds like support for religious freedom only happens if it’s a muslim making the complaint.
Sounds like you do not understand the difference between employment law and public enterprise.
Great! Another know-it-all trawler here to dazzle us with her brilliance! Sounds like she’ll make a great liberal politician; she doesn’t know what she’s talking about but almost puts up a pretty good bluff. Sound like anyone else we know?
Please feel free to make a fool of yourself in public.
That is your Constitutional right.
If you walk into the store and want to speak with a clerk, are you going to go to
a raghead? I know I wouldn’t.
I can believe that, without a shadow of a doubt.
Your bigotry is an embarrassment to America and everything it stands for. Our country was founded by brave people seeking freedom of religion.
You have no idea who you are putting down. I am not bigoted at’all. I would just be afraid that anything I said would be taken offense at and I’d end up being sued! Pay attention to what is going on in our country!!
Are you aware that the Sikhs also wear turbans?
Their religion forbids then from cutting their hair. They wrap their hair around their heads in cloth. They are East Indian, not Arab.
I suggest you do not call people names.
The mere fact that this wasted our tax payer dollars by involving the supreme court (well maybe not so supreme anymore) is appalling!
The U.S. Supreme Court justices are paid a salary — cases or no cases.
The U.S. Attorneys are paid a salary — cases or no cases.
How were the tax payer’s dollars wasted?
I wonder if the Supreme Court would have ruled in favor if the woman had been a Christian who was denied a job because she dressed modestly and refused to wear pants.
It seems to me that the last 2 cases where the courts have ruled in favor of “religion or religious cases” it has been the muslim “religion”. They have continually ruled against Christian bakers, photographers, etc. so I’m not getting the least bit excited about them ruling in favor of this case. All this tells me is that the muslims are winning and will soon be enshrining their evil death cult sharia law in place of our court system.
What this says is the Supreme Court is against discrimination — of any type.
This is an indication that Muslims did not come to America because they like it’s ways but rather to change Americas ways. They have confused religious freedom with proselytization via sharia law and other religious customs.
Muslims helped build America. They fought in the Revolutionary War.
This same respect should apply to all religions not just Muslims. This ruling is tainted with prejudice. .
It applies to all religions.
The issue would never have arose had it been a man wearing a yamaka.
The inteligencia know best.
Yea – keep on supporting those poor mistreated Mooslems even up to the point when they start killing you. The only good pig eating mooslem is one that goes back to the sand or is dead.
All terrorists are not Muslim — some are Christian.
All Muslims are not terrorists.
Religious hate is wrong..
Over 8 million innocent people were gassed to death the last time ignorant people allowed it to happen..
Get it through your head that Christians and ALL people who are not Moslems are INFIDELS and do not deserve to live. We are on the verge of a war in this country that is being started by the Moslem Jihadists. When they start killing ALL Moslems will not fight but they will do what every they have to do to protect those militants because Mohammed said they must do away with ALL infidels. WE ARE NOT THE ONES DOLLING OUT THE HATE lady: THEY are the responsible party. Maybe you will realize that if you bothered studying and seeing what they are doing to Christians around the world. Pictures of little girls who were dressed to go to church and they are laid out on the ground with no heads. There are pictures of 4 Moslems pointing hire powered rifles at the head of a little baby and then they blew his head off – just because his parents were Christians. When was the last time you heard of or read about any Christian killing innocent women and children because they are Moslem? You, and others like you, need to get your heads out of the sand and wake up AND try studying things before you make senseless comments.
Get it through your head, phil62 — hate based on religion is wrong.
Get it through your head, phil62 — freedom of religion is the law in America.
Get it through your head, phil62 — your words and actions are not those of a Christian.
Get it through your head, phil62 — not all Muslims are ignorant, tribal killers.
Get it through your head, phil62 — those actions took place in another country, under the laws of that country.
Get it through your head, phil62 — Christians are murdering non-
Christians in the Central African Republic.
POINT — there are criminals of every race and religion in every country in this world.
Lady you are really and simply very uneducated about God and how He works. AND the atrocities are taking place in all countries where they have built strongholds by fear and force. LASTLY AND MOST IMPORTANTLY: DON’T YOU EVERY HAVE THE AUDACITY TO TELL ME THAT I AM NOT A CHRISTIAN. THAT IS GOD’S PLACE AND YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO RIGHT. I have been trying to talk like an adult and make you open your eyes to the truth but you have gone too far. If you EVER say another word to me I will report you and have you shut down on making any comments. I promise you = do not write another word to me.
Jesus said the second commandment is:
Love thy neighbor as thee love thyself.
He made no exceptions to that law.
My problem with this decision is this:
1) Nowhere in the unholy Koran does it explicitly demand women cover up, so the whole ” it’s part of my religion” is utter nonsense. Moreover, I do not want to live in a society where the role of women is reduced to an anonymous, obedient, concubine with no rights whatsoever subjected to daily abuses beyond imagination in the West. The fact that this brainwashed zombie can’t work without a head scarf tells me all I need to know about her consideration for her potential employer and customers.
2) A and F is entitled to have a dress code and it should apply to ALL employees, including Muslims. Not sure I see the connection between a head scarf and faith in God. And let’s be honest here, there is only ONE religion that invades EVERYBODY else’s public space to demand capitulation and that is ISLAM.
The first Amendment was in no way violated by Abercrombie and Fitch, as this woman is still free to go to a mosque, read her hateful text, and disseminate her views on God with like minded individuals. But she has no right to impose her religion on me, and I am not a bigot or Islamophobe for expressing views that are contrary to hers. That’s called freedom of speech, deal with it or go back to your third-world shithole where you amount to nothing more than a mutilated vagina.
If anything, the Supreme Court’s ruling is unconstitutional since it violates our greatest precept: Separation of Church and State. They elevated her religious rights above the secular norms of American society That, friends, is theocracy at work. This whole thing is a very slippery slope and we all know where it leads: hate,intolerance, abrogation of freedom of speech, and ultimately, the death of democracy itself. All under the guise that Muslims are somehow like us. They are not and never have been. We can criticize Jews, Christians, Hindus, atheists, celebrities, politicians, athletes, lesbians, gay men, transgender, fat people, Mexicans, each other, but criticize Muslims-look out!
Most importantly, this is(for now) a secular nation, so Muslims should respect the feelings of others and at least try to assimilate into American daily life. Is it really a big deal not to wear your hijab while working? The fact that Muslims recognize themselves as Muslims first and citizens second is problematic for all societies stupid enough to accept such a perverse malignancy bent on the destruction of Western values ,and strikes at the heart of why Islam is so dangerous to things like critical thought, kindness, tolerance, and brotherhood.
Folks I tried to warn you about serial posters, and lo and behold I was right. Once again they appear out of the shadows to inject objectionable retorts to the subject matter at hand. Everybody has the same equal rights guaranteed under the 1st amendment.
That right is even extended to those that use diverse language.
I explained on another comment page about serial posters, they travel from forums to forums to try and deceive, beguile and try to bamboozle you into thinking you are wrong and they are right, but usually they are never right.
I would suggest to you that when you see them appear after you have had your say, you will know immediately who they are.
So your best course of action is to just post what you have to say, but do not answer these kind of posters because what they will reply to your words will always be negative in the attempt to deflect your words to mean something else, and they will also try to agitate you into negative language by accussing you of being negative and bigoted, but in reality it is they that are the bigots.
All these things I have told you come straight from the socialist handbook. So when they try to bastardize you do not answer them by name just post your opinion and let them to their own folly.
I post this because the same serial posters I talked about have arrived at this opinion page to spread their poison.
Had the issue related to a Jewish man wearing a yamaka, would there even be a discussion?
Are people this lame for real. As for are president. We got what we deserve. If one were to check hes voting record in the senate. You would know he did not take a stand at all. For in the senate You can vote yes or no or present. Obama voted present a lot. This was done with a purpose. It reflects the fact that he hides hes intent. Takes no position does not take sides. Yep we got what we deserve. A man who puts his finger in the air and rolls with the flow.
‘The People’ do not now, nor have they ever elected a U.S. President.
The Electoral College elects the President.
They are not bound to follow the public vote.
The Supreme Court once again has taken a religious position in what is really a question of proper dress for employment. Just think if men in offices start wearing swim suits to work, does this mean that employers must accept it? If women wear shawls and try to man an office, will that be acceptable? The Supremes are at religiososity again and it really is not their bailiwick!
Employment discrimination is within the U.S, Supreme Court’s jurisdiction.
Freedom of religion is within the U.S. Supreme Court’s jurisdicition.
Both are Constitutional issues.
The problem with the Supreme Courts decision is that Islam IS NOT a religion, a fact they never considered. Obama had to have instructed them to affirm Islam as a religion the case.
Islam is a religion. Muslims worship the God of Abraham, just as do Christians and Jews. Religious hate is wrong — very wrong. The last time the world allowed it to be taught, over 8 million were murdered.
What if she was a Doukabor (Sp?)? That off beat Canadian religion that thinks G-d meant for us all to go around in our birthday suits.
No, actually the nudity was a protest of a Canadian law. It was only a part of the group which participated in the protest: the Sons of Freedom.
Christianity: Freedom of Choice in Religion.
Islam: Join submit or die. Some peaceful religion. I do not see the peaceful Muslims trying to stop the hate from their fellow travelers.
Christianity, 2015: Central African Republic — convert or die
Christianity, early America — convert or die.
Christianity, Crusades — convert or die.
What if it were a dress code issue not a religious issue?
Written dress code, enforced for all employees — not a problem, as long as applicants are so advised in writing at the time of interview and hire.
Religion — the scourge of mankind.
More people have been murdered based on religion than for any other cause — 8 million of them beginning in 1933, while the world watched and did nothing.
what a true idiot you are!
Thank you. With every insult you make, you prove my point.
You are playing the hate based on religion game.
It is not a pretty sight.
It is an embarrassment to American and to everything the Founding Fathers fought and died for.
Freedom of religion includes freedom from religion.
Of course there is Islamophobia, they brag that they will kill us all. That makes me fear them. I can’t tell a radical Muslim from a non radical Muslim by looking at them, can you ?
now that I agree with if it would have been any other religion they would have been against them from the start but a muslim they’re all for and they wasn’t as much out cry as they let on like …the only out cry is for them to go back in they hole were they come from and take that crap that u call a religion with you
If the job applicant had been a Jewish male, who turned up at work wearing a yamaka, there would not have been an issue.
Religious hate for Jews sort if went out of style after WW II.
Hate for Germans sort of went out of styke after WW II.
Hate for Asians still lingers. The so does the Korean War. The memory of Vietnam is also used as hate the Asian propaganda.
Yet, we buy Chinese goods and put Americans out of work. Americans are fickle group of people — they worship the $.
Religious hate for Muslims is still needed to justify Western waging war for oil.
Americans you all should take heed to the 40 some isis camps in the USA and our government has the audasity not to take them down and out for the sakes of Americans! Now you need to understand if these heathens turn lose on America they are
not going to ask you if you are Christians or nonbelievers so if I were you you all should put real effort in getting hold of Congress and tell them to tear the isis camsp out and destroy them before they destroy or at least try to destroy America!
Interesting they would defend the religion that would behead them for what they have earlier done!
Google “Two Minute Conservative” for clarity.
I just want to say Thanks to Mz Pamela Geller, for having the chutzpah to show just how dangerous and insane these intolerant muslim bastards can go, when pushed. Normal folks in America are raised to know that while ‘sticks & stones’ maybe used in violence, they must never be used against mere words, or even a funny cartoon about a curious man from back in ‘alley oops’ day, named muhammed who married a 6 year old and had sex with her before her 10th birthday? Another despicable thing about intolerant muslim scum is they wish to follow in the funny cartoon man’s footsteps–Yes, there are millions of male muslims today, who all wish to marry KIDS, not even teen-agers, they want to marry Children. Which is why I say: Eat this pork and prove that this quran is Really nonsense to You Immigrant Muslims & if You don’t want to eat the pork–Then Get Out. We have no room for people who are so unhappy with Our Way of Life, and our legal system so Get Out. This country is supposed to be a ‘mixing pot’ and I don’t see you assimilating. So Sorry, and don’t let the door hit ya on the way out.
False SC defended Chrisiitans in recent Hobby Lobby case. Stop the self=pity.